I was having problems getting my plugins to work inside the host application but thanks to your video and the disclaimer of making sure the host was opened in administrator mode, I was able to get it to work properly! Thank you for this tutorial and your excellent help!
@Padbangers10 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, keep on banging ;)
@Padbangers10 жыл бұрын
yes this works for wn 8 as well
@bigrapbeats11 жыл бұрын
You were supposed to tick create bridging files for 32bit plugins not 64bit. everything else was pretty spot on!
@confessionmusic47894 жыл бұрын
Ye that fucked me up! :D
@MichuPich4 жыл бұрын
Haha got stuck so long.. felt so stupid
@icehousemuzik4 жыл бұрын
lol facts
@RoxxyRolla763 жыл бұрын
Yup took me a minute but then noticed the error said "no 64 bit plugins bridged" so figured it out right after lol
@adirsab2 ай бұрын
thanks!
@carlbarlow755710 жыл бұрын
Didn't know why i didn't download this a while back, can finally use Nexus in Ableton 9, thanks mate !
@mememan24286 жыл бұрын
same here..was finding a way to run my nexus !
@Vickybalochbackpacker5 жыл бұрын
Carl i just like your girlfriend mate
@5amboiii5 жыл бұрын
@@Vickybalochbackpacker Lol
@crzy0308 жыл бұрын
For everyone who can't find the Boot Menu or the programs, start JBridge and check "reset browse folder" at the beginning.
@Zaskar19785 жыл бұрын
Video from 2013 saved my ass in 2019. THX.
@JONAH-n9m9 жыл бұрын
News Flash!!!! If you want to create 64 bit plug from 32 bit plug, you will need to check the Create bridging files for 32 bit plug.........D'oh!
@jemoeder57214 жыл бұрын
If you're plugins crash, make sure to add exceptions (to all your DAW files and all your vst folders) in your anti-virus software. Trust me this isn't bullshit. Watched all tutorials online and saw this tip on a reddit page. Fixed it for me!!
@SalukvadzeMusic Жыл бұрын
OMG!!!! it works !!!!! Thank you so much. I even can't find the right words to thank you ! You helped me so much. I was trying to resolve this problem for so many years... Thank you!!!!!
@wOOdY9410010 жыл бұрын
Nice! You're even using the new DAW I got. Very helpful video man. Saved me a lot of time!
@ggandthemix2 жыл бұрын
Fabulous instructional video! Thanks so much for taking the time to create it and help out many of us with it. Cheers!
@welldrummer198909 жыл бұрын
happy days now i can run waves in protools 11 :)
@RealistSWAGBeats11 жыл бұрын
OMG BRO YOU ARE A LIFE SAVER I WAS TRYING TO LOOK UP DIFFERENT WAYS BECAUSE I JUST GOT STUDIO ONE 2 AND I COULD ONLY HAVE MY 64BIT PLUGINS ONLY. WHICH IT WAS ONLY LIKE 8 OF THEM OUT OF 20 SOMETHING. BUT THANKS BRO SO MUCH
@Agganon02 жыл бұрын
Genuinely great tutorial
@locknessko4 жыл бұрын
Finally!! I can run delay lama in ableton!
@greg1982little2 жыл бұрын
Perfect tutorial.
@monsterjazzlicks10 жыл бұрын
Great Video PB's !! I just bought JBridge to use my Groove Agent 3 (32-bit) in Cubase (64-bit). Joao (the owner) was very helpful indeed. Ta, Paul David Seaman
@rowbocaster8 жыл бұрын
I'm trying the same thing for GA 3 I can't figure it out. Can you help me?
@monsterjazzlicks8 жыл бұрын
rowbocaster If you contact Joao who you purchased the JBridge from then he should help you. Or there is a couple of threads on the Steinberg Forum which I once wrote.
@as11132 жыл бұрын
Hi , have you tested Hypersonic 2 steinberg vst, in windows 10 ? thanks
@ilestip11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Is Jbridge working with VST Instruments or with VST plug-ins only?
@osvaldodomingos90412 жыл бұрын
Hey, i saw you bridged Hypersonic. For me Hypersonic always crashes. Is it working better now after you bridged?
@hoodnigga50408 жыл бұрын
Right On Bra U Just Opened My Music Game Up Somethin Serious Highly Apprieciate It Man Seriously
@alixlemire49712 жыл бұрын
Edit when I open it its all white nothing appear Im trying to convert meta tune for studio one 5..... doesnt work so far......... my dll is in program not program (x86) what does it mean ???? It it doesnt work in a 64 bit daw ???
@noodlingaround20238 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. Well explained. Works well.
@Padbangers8 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help
@akycent12 жыл бұрын
does it work for virtualdj ....i mean using 32bit virtualdj plugin in the 64bit program
@TheSoulViolinist11 жыл бұрын
I noticed that myself when none of my files converted. I went back to look at the options and thought I'd try the opposite and it worked. Lol! I also had to change ownership of all of my jbridge folders for them to open correctly. I'm glad I'm a techie or I would have pulled my hair out!
@joeybtheman19064 жыл бұрын
please explain more, i used to be able to get this to work and now it dosn't work. idk what i'm doing wrong
@funnjones8 жыл бұрын
do not see plugins in cubase 5 ,i have a lot of plugins,32bit and 64bit but ikmultimedia mogo bass and lurssin mastering console for what ever reason do not show up....!!!!Help!!!!"
@lupusnigerprodanddistrodol93054 жыл бұрын
I've used jbridge on East West Symphonic Choir and Wordbuilder. It worked only in Symphonic Choir. How can I fix this issue for Wordbuilder?
@Kryptdegen9 жыл бұрын
once i bridged my 32 bit plug in into a 64 can i delete that 32 bit? because whenever i delete the old plug in, the DAWs dont recognize them
@Padbangers9 жыл бұрын
+Hems port seems like your answered your question yourself ;) You can't cause the created file is just the bridge from your 32bit plugin to your daw.
@ghaithghayth29836 жыл бұрын
Thank you friend best tutorial ive ever seen
@MF_Funnyman4 жыл бұрын
Hi I did what you did in fl studio with refx nexus 2 but fruity wrapper crushes when I load it please help
@Padbangers4 жыл бұрын
sry, no support for cracked vsts. buy the original and you have a 64 bit version available.
@qasion5 жыл бұрын
Can't catch what he was saying about making sure jbridge and the host are in the same what, minute 0.57?
@beatsbysacred5 жыл бұрын
me neither???????
@wiltedangel3 жыл бұрын
my jbridge doesnt show my vst folder as an option to scan
@niklasrosemusic5 жыл бұрын
How can i enable that the Fruity Wrapper runs as an administrator ?
@STEVEFINNERTY8 жыл бұрын
hello,,, please help , im trying to run an old vst to fix an old mix,,,,im trying to use evp73 rhodes plug in,,,would this 'bridging; software help with vst ?.
@Padbangers8 жыл бұрын
+STEVEFINN that's hard to say. If it's not working because it's 32 bit then jBridge can help. If it's not working cause maybe your OS is not supporting it anymore then probably not. The best would be to load the trial version of jBridge and test yourself. Cheers
@STEVEFINNERTY8 жыл бұрын
+Padbangers thanks,,
@erkamau96294 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the tips, I have Cubase sx3 in win7 64bit, running ok with 32bit plugins.Followed ALL your tips but when I open a jBridged Vst it runs bypassed and there is no way to bypass clicking the bypass button.Tried to change on/off the options in jbridge settings (low in the left of the vst window) but also if now it is no more bypassed it doesn't work and after few seconds Cubase crashes. Any ideas to solve it ? thanks much for your help, Ciao
@uzaautumus3 жыл бұрын
quick question : does this work for FL Studio 12 (64bit) version?
@Padbangers3 жыл бұрын
yes, it should work in all apps supporting vst
@ducanhlv111 жыл бұрын
What software do you use to search jbridge? I mean which one looks like spotlight seach box in Mac OS
@okashasunami326 жыл бұрын
Worked perfect. Thanks!
@Lisa-ul5ez8 жыл бұрын
Hello, Thanks for your video. I am a bit stuck here. I'm using JBridge with Metaplugin in Protools 11 and although getting midi, I hear nothing in the headphones. Would you advise. I'm trying to use Sample tank 2.5. Thank you.
@Padbangers8 жыл бұрын
Hey Lisa, this can be caused by many reasons. Best would be to contact jBridge support, they usually can help out very quickly
@SideFlame9 жыл бұрын
Err using ableton 9 suite 64bit version. Didn't work... It scanned all the files and said 53 plugins were converted for using in my 64 bit host. But Ableton's not detecting any of them
@SideFlame9 жыл бұрын
Don't worry.. Fixed it. Weird thing. I had a folder inside the folder of my Vstplugins. And for some reason, deleting that folder made ableton detect all my plugins
@TheSoulViolinist11 жыл бұрын
This has been very helpful. Thank you!
@YVZSTUDIOS7 жыл бұрын
Thank's man! finally I can use all the 32bit synths I always wanted ^^
@YourInvestmentAdvise9 жыл бұрын
Do you ALWAYS have to run in administrator mode or only when you first do this installation?
@Padbangers9 жыл бұрын
+the Annuity Slayer always when you run the application to convert plugins. not when you use a bridged plugin
@loopskratch60655 жыл бұрын
what should be in the 32 bit and 64bit files respectively?
@preciseaudioblog3 жыл бұрын
Hi! nice vid... Do you know how to undo the process that JbridgeM does? I want to bridge with 32 bits Lives now, but I can't. thank you!
@fanibacsi29184 жыл бұрын
hi. i would like to rewire reason 5 32 bit to ableton 10 64 bit. im not shure the jbridge can do this. can someone help me, how can this be possible?
@Padbangers4 жыл бұрын
hi, this won't work. jbridge only wraps vst plugins, not standalone applications. cheers.
@drumhead969 жыл бұрын
Hello, does this software really work? Also, I am afraid it might give my computer viruses. Is this software safe? Are there any other applications you would recommend? Or is JBridge the main one?
@Padbangers9 жыл бұрын
it really works and why should it give you viruses? the are a few other tools that bridge the vsts like e.g. from Blue Cat Audio but I didn't test it yet
@2104jas11 жыл бұрын
hey. any info maybe how to setup it with logic X. ?? i did everything what i could (scan, move) but Logic x is not reading my vst fx. can logic scan other folder then default library/audio/plugins/vst ?? if any of you have any solution i would be very grateful . thank you
@cr7zico667 жыл бұрын
my pc is 32 bit and when I load some flstudio project it has some 64 bit vst plugin and I have same plugin but it's 32 bit ... how can I open 64 bit plugin in 32 bits
@gidijonen79666 жыл бұрын
u don't need jbridge in fl fl studio automatically bridges it for you
@TheNoblesGuild11 жыл бұрын
Just used JBridge. It is the truth. Comared to IL (Image Line) Bridge 32 which crashes in Hypersonic upon Content Location. Unfortunately you can only load 1 bridged wrapper instance of a program at a time. Idk what happens if they differ.
@qasion5 жыл бұрын
I followed your video instructions exactly, but it's still not converting my Nexus 2.2 dll file?
@Padbangers5 жыл бұрын
Nexus is available in 64 bit. Get a legit copy
@Kryptdegen8 жыл бұрын
is it just me or when i leave the "dont add .32/.64 bit names" option unchecked my files dont get bridged...
@caryjudd10 жыл бұрын
it looks like earlier this program didn't work with waves plug-ins. I have PT11 (64 bit) and the latest 32 bit version of waves. Will this help me?
@Padbangers10 жыл бұрын
Why are you still on the 32 bit plugins? Didn't Waves updated all of their plugins to 64 recently?
@drummerjoe779 жыл бұрын
Does it work? If so I'm getting a new DAW
@Padbangers9 жыл бұрын
Joseph Lyle I'm only owning a few waves plugins, they are running smooth on 64 bit
@zonumanaid7 жыл бұрын
is it common that it gives some weird latency?
@j.manuellinero591210 жыл бұрын
Hello, how can I skip silence at 20 minutes in the demo? I lose the sound if not saved before the project?
@Padbangers10 жыл бұрын
just buy it.
@MapleJokerRofl10 жыл бұрын
Padbangers Hello, If I buy the program will it save the settings on the plug in? and it wont crash after 20min? and it will load once i open the project again? Because right now if i close it and open it again the plug in will go back to the default settings. thanks :)
@COR3YBOREALIS10 жыл бұрын
good step by step - thanks. Have you (or anyone here) successful done this with RX-NEXUS 2?
@Padbangers10 жыл бұрын
yes, nexus works well with it
@mustardgas011 жыл бұрын
I tried the trial version of Jbridge and I converted the plugins, but they still won't appear in studio one (I have studio one producer). Do I need to actually buy the software for it to work? It's no big deal if I do, I just want to know if that's what the problem is
@asafkurtz73008 жыл бұрын
how do you know if a plugin/vst is 32 or 64 bit?some vst/plugins just install with say if its 32 or 64 version?
@Padbangers8 жыл бұрын
+Asaf Kurtz If you have some (older) plugins and they don't show up in your 64 bit program they are probably only 32 bit. If you don't miss any plugins, don't worry about it. Modern plugins usually come in both versions.
@JamesRJKR9 жыл бұрын
omnisphere keeps crashing with Jbridge. have you updated it in passed 5 months?
@Padbangers9 жыл бұрын
+James R why do you wanna bridge it? Omnisphere is available in 64 bit.
@EggTHiEST9 жыл бұрын
+Padbangers I know why James asked that, it's because the warez version we're all using in Windoze 7 is 32bit and is the reason why so many of us want to convert it to 64bit with our pirated copy of JBridge, except JBridge/Omnisphere crashes. Anyone can download Omnisphere 2 off bittorrent, unfortunately all the torrents/seeds are for the 32bit version, at least for the moment. :(
@Padbangers9 жыл бұрын
***** sorry, no sympathy for your pirated shit! Go legit and stop complaining then...
@JamesRJKR9 жыл бұрын
I'm using the 64 bit version now! :)
@mogiman21355 жыл бұрын
I tried multiple ways attempting to convert my 32 bit Nexus to 64 bit to work in my 64 bit FL Studio. Nothing seems to work. Can someone please help?
@Padbangers5 жыл бұрын
Nexus is available in 64 bit.Get a legit copy. We don't support piracy on this channel.
@flexiblemusica6 жыл бұрын
Genius!! Thanks a Lot!!
@onikore4 жыл бұрын
guyz if the soft gives an error, u haven't to create folder "bridged" like in video, simply select vst folder in programms from the last step.
@Fehlfarbenblind5 жыл бұрын
Super Vielen Dank wenn des alles so funktionieren hast du mir sehr geholfen 😉👌👌👍 Und sauba Englisch geredet nicht schlecht!
@raphaeloligny84658 жыл бұрын
For some reason after I select the folder containing the plugins I want to bridge (step 3) it says "no valid files found" Thx for any help
@Padbangers8 жыл бұрын
+Raphael Oligny Hi, I guess you watched it on the mobile version of youtube. there is a mistake in step 3 which I pointed out with an notation you only can see in the desktop version. you have to select "create 32 bit bridging files" . hope this helps. cheers
@raphaeloligny84658 жыл бұрын
Nah man thats not what it is I saw the annotation and cheked that box
@Padbangers8 жыл бұрын
ok, well... are you sure you selected your 32 bit vst folder in programs (x86) ?
@raphaeloligny84658 жыл бұрын
+Padbangers Yep is it possible that my plugins are not the right format? they are in .wav
@Padbangers8 жыл бұрын
.wav are not plugins. these are audio files. you gotta look for the .vst files
@tronlady12 жыл бұрын
SURELY......If you wanna bridge 32 bit plugins (which is in the title) you wanna choose "create bridging files for 32 bit plugins" not "create bridging files for 64 bit plugins?
@RuslanSafarovAzad9 жыл бұрын
where can i download Jbridge beta version? when i want to use some effects is written: This demonstration version is fully functional ( expect saving, which is disabled for some plugins) for 20 minutes. what can i do?
@Padbangers9 жыл бұрын
Ruslan Safarov You are using the demo version. you need to buy the full version to use it without limitation. you can get it on the website I put in the description. there's also the beta version available (v1.71b)
@mago9761510 жыл бұрын
Hello there ! i got Win 7 64 with fl STudio 11 , but i don't know if the host is 32 or 64 bits , can you explain??
@Padbangers10 жыл бұрын
Fl Studio launched the 64 bit versions just today. So if you don't have specifically downloaded a 64 bit version you have 32 bit installed.
@mago9761510 жыл бұрын
Yes , i understand but what i mean , is that i got fl studio 11...and regarding what u said , i got fl studio 11 32 bit version on my Windows 7 64bit...Right? Now i want the Hypersonic 2 plugin to work ...because hyperso 2 never worked on win7 64.....So should i choose 32 bit host or 64 bit host on jbridge to select myhypersonic 2.dll file??? I tried to be the more precise!!!!
@JJaaggoobb27 күн бұрын
anyone gets error messages everytime they open daw saying that jbridge doesnt have permission and it wasnt saved correctly? it still works but is very annoying
@mickoin210 жыл бұрын
hi thx , i bought jbridge , but this doesn't works with waves plugins ... this is the only exeption ... why ? ow can i fix it ? thx
@Padbangers10 жыл бұрын
hi there. Waves is a little special. did you try to convert the shell wrapper as well? I have 2 waves fx that I got to work somehow but I can't remember what I exactly did. But afaik Waves offers 64 bit versions of their plugins, so you might just need to update your plugins...
@samj893810 жыл бұрын
Hi do u know if jbridge works with beat thang virtual please??
@DutPoet4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@pastel87202 жыл бұрын
it worked ily man
@hafiznoor568410 жыл бұрын
heelo and hi.. i want to install a 32 bit software into 64 bit computer.. it is possible if i using this method? please reply me
@Padbangers10 жыл бұрын
This tool is only for audio plugins not for every software in general.
@Noxxys10 жыл бұрын
You can install any 32 bit program on any 64 bit Windows without doing anything special, Windows runs them in 32 bit mode (you'll see "x86" or "32 bit" next to their name in the task manager)
@Alberto.R.Diaz.10 жыл бұрын
How useful is the demo version vs full version of jbridge?
@Padbangers10 жыл бұрын
The demo version only runs for a short time
@Alberto.R.Diaz.10 жыл бұрын
Padbangers Thanks for replying mate ! Cheers !
@Padbangers10 жыл бұрын
you're welcome
@MGallear910 жыл бұрын
i have a 64 bit ableton installed and i want to run 32 bit plugins. which option do i choose?
@Padbangers10 жыл бұрын
use the exactly same settings from the video and you're good to go.
@MGallear910 жыл бұрын
thanks buddy!
@Padbangers10 жыл бұрын
you're welcome. have fun
@joseedgarrodriguezbrito15382 жыл бұрын
thank u helped me a lot
@SportMinsitry5 жыл бұрын
What about I want to convert the Dll instrument? how can I do that?
@Padbangers11 жыл бұрын
You only can bridge plugins not programs itself. I have exactly the same setup and I use rewire-xt's rewire vst plugin, which you can bridge to 64 bit and it runs pretty smooth rewiring reason. Hope this helps ;)
@ElAwfulBoy2 жыл бұрын
there is NO program files x86 and i cant find this VSYNC!!!!
@MaxXFalcon8 жыл бұрын
I need to convert a plugin from 86 bit to 64. Won't this programme help me? Are there tools like this for me?
@Padbangers8 жыл бұрын
+MaxXFalcon 86 = 32 Bit. So jBridge is exactly what you need.
@MaxXFalcon8 жыл бұрын
+Padbangers Didn't expect such a fast answer:) I'm sure it will help me, thanks a lot! And a modest like to your video from me:)
@Padbangers8 жыл бұрын
MaxXFalcon thanks man!
@dougsand10 жыл бұрын
at the beginning of this tutorial you mention that with windows the host and the computer must be in ? trader mode. could you please spell that. thanx
@Padbangers10 жыл бұрын
Sorry if my pronounciation was bad. I meant "Administrator mode" :)
@sarys736 жыл бұрын
Every time I run this on Prosoniq vsts I get a message "No 64bit bridging files created (6 sub-directories scanned, looking for 32bit plugins)" All my other vsts worked like a charm. These Prosoniq ones fail every time. I can use them in my 32 bit Ableton Live 8, but I need it in my Live 9 64bit. Yes I ran this in Admin btw. Any help would be appreciated.
@Padbangers6 жыл бұрын
Please watch on your desktop. There's a mistake in the video and it shows a note which is not visible on the mobile version
@lazyskull79495 жыл бұрын
Do I need to scan the Bridged folder when scanning for VSTs?
@Padbangers5 жыл бұрын
when adding to your daw? yes
@armind711 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Great video!
@joeboo98015 жыл бұрын
It worked I can hear it but I can't see the vst, any tips?
@liuel95269 жыл бұрын
which studio one version you have mike
@Padbangers9 жыл бұрын
hey, I'm up to date, 2.6.5
@harlam78307 жыл бұрын
OK but I have studio one 3 64bit many need scan this folder bridge in daw .
@joralsoul69810 жыл бұрын
Hello padbanger I just purchased and waiting for the down load I downloaded the demo and now I'm ready for the full version
@Padbangers10 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm not the owner of jBridge, I just did the tutorial ;) Please contact J on his website through the contact form if you have any trouble with the purchase.
@ArcticBulletNation10 жыл бұрын
This does not seem to work with Izotope Nectar Elements..
@elninolaspistastv9 жыл бұрын
Great video, so I have tried to convert vocalign 32 bits to 64 bits and it doesn't work I don´t know what is the problem... :'(
@Padbangers9 жыл бұрын
+elninolaspistastv please contact the jbridge support. They will help you out
@np5268 жыл бұрын
What does select your vst hosts architecture mean ?
@Padbangers8 жыл бұрын
it means if your daw runs in 32 bit or 64 bit mode
@Padbangers11 жыл бұрын
It's a handy tool called Launchy.
@Dalvidos8 жыл бұрын
Hi This did not help. is there anything I could be doing wrong?
@Padbangers8 жыл бұрын
There's a little mistake in the tutorial. Please watch on a desktop computer I added comments to the video that you can't see on the mobile version. If you already saw the comment it might be your plugin isn't bridgeable. Usually 9 out of 10 plugins work though.
@pizz_the9 жыл бұрын
it doesnt seem to be working for my ableton live 9. only thing that i can tell i'm doing differently is that when selecting 'create bridging files for 64 bit plugins' it wont create the bridging file. only if i select 'create bridging files for 32 bit plugins' will it then create one. which is confusing as i''m selecting plugins from program files x86 to be bridged into program files. please help.
@Padbangers9 жыл бұрын
Ok a few basics to make it easier to understand. Program files x86 = 32 bit applications and plugins. Program files = 64 bit apps and plugins. You're running a 64 bit host, so to make 32 plugins work you need to bridge them. So your source are 32 plugins in the x86 folder that will be bridged (create bridging files for 32 bit plug-ins) into the 64 bit folder. So you need to make sure the final bridged files are located in program files. Then rescan the vst folder in program files with ableton. Hope this helps
@pizz_the9 жыл бұрын
Yep. I understand which files are which. And ive done all of these steps and it doesnt come up on ableton. The bridged files are showing in the program files -> vst folder but wont scan. Ive even tried both versions of the demo. Sorry i didnt explain this before.
@Padbangers9 жыл бұрын
hmmmm, that's odd... did you try to add the bridgedfiles folder as a custom vst folder?
@pizz_the9 жыл бұрын
do you mean in ableton? i tried changing the custom vst folder in ableton preferences and still nothing. and ive tried moving it to different directory files too.
@Padbangers9 жыл бұрын
Paul Suares Yes that's what I meant. Very strange, I have absolutely no problems. Please contact Joao via the contact form on jstuff.wordpress.com/jbridge/ . He is more than willing to help.
@rickb20763 жыл бұрын
thank you that helped
@matts2xx6 жыл бұрын
So you have to have the plugin installed first I guess?
@erkicaplatz721210 жыл бұрын
thank you Padbangers!!!
@Explastizin10 жыл бұрын
Не получается =( Когда стал создавать паку в директории для 64. Сама она не создалась, пришлось в ручную....и все равно не работает. У меня FL 10 + Kontakt и другие VST.
@jonpegnato11 жыл бұрын
does this work for AU?
@edio88357 жыл бұрын
it turn them into 64bit but didnt work still. thx tho
@eazypop7 жыл бұрын
Does JBridge need to stay installed on windows for the plugins to stay bridged in 64Bit??
@Padbangers7 жыл бұрын
yes, it kinda works as a wrapper
@eazypop7 жыл бұрын
so that means I would have to buy it to keep the plugins working.. right?