TV Above Fireplace Bad? Samsung S89C OLED Worth Buying? | You Asked Ep.17

[@Caleb_Denison]

Urgent UPDATE: Hey everyone - I report on the S89C being a WRGB OLED because DT reported it as such based on press releases we were given. I’m hearing that is is supposedly actually QD-OLED. I will verify with Samsung immediately and provide conclusive guidance here as soon as I hear back. I am extremely frustrated by this situation and vow to get to the bottom of it, but if I am mistaken A. I apologize and B. I hope you can understand the confusion around this. Look, if I am confused, then a LOT of folks are confused. *OG post: What’s up everybody! Great to see ya here. Thanks for all the fireplace feedback and helpful comments about audio dropouts! I heard back from Nakamichi and there’s a lot there but it looks like certain HDMI cables are causing issues. More details in this pinned comment later. I’m on the go but I’ll update soon!

[@IECStang]

Samsung S89C is QD OLED. That's why I bought one because it's cheaper than the S90C

[@j.rfrazier1855]

Thank you, Caleb! Hopefully they are all QD OLED and we don’t have a WRGB/QD panel lottery on the S89C.

[@orvaliano]

Any updates if that an QD-OLED or WOLED panel?

[@bmarcinczyk14]

​@@IECStangthen what's the difference with the s90c?

[@marceljohnson2215]

Yeah this was verified a week or so ago

[@alexw647]

I can confirm, at least in Canada, that the S89C uses a QD-Oled panel. I work as a Sony rep at a Best Buy store, and was helping my Samsung counterpart unbox the TV. As soon as we turned it on, we knew it was QD due to how clean the panel is, and upon closer look it does have the triad pixel structure.

[@AB-nv7bz]

I’m reading this is true for the us. Makes sense Canada gets the same. They lump us together for most products. All comes on the same boat

[@elchappo1320]

Just bought S89C. Its QD oled. No different than S90C. Its my first oled and am blown away by the picture. Black levels do make a huge difference that is not noticeable at the store

[@DistinctionDino]

can corroborate that, I too have one and it is definitely a qd-oled panel.

[@michael-4k4000]

@@DistinctionDinoexactly 100%

[@michael-4k4000]

@@dylanemanuel4130 go get room bud! Get a room 🙄

[@chuckz28]

I had a mantle mount at my old house. Total game changer and WELL worth the money. I loved that thing! The actuator made my heavy tv feel very light to move up when guests were over or down for daily tv watching.

[@lycanhd]

So your tv was never at sitting height?

[@chuckz28]

@@lycanhd when you lower it down its at sitting height

[@Dion0017]

I just bought the non motorized drop down..I haven't put it up yet tho..

[@dagornt]

3D was just getting good on OLEDs with passive glasses. Especially 4K TV as you’d get 1080p per eye. They killed it right when it was looking amazing. And I think there will be 3D movies on the Apple Vision Pro.

[@techsamurai11]

Agreed, it's such as shame they don't support it.

[@joewozniak2231]

One of these reviewers needs to just get an S89C for review and confirmation it’s not QD OLED. I think it’s odd Samsung would buy from LG and then keep the price relatively close to the S90C. I have a hunch it’s a QD panel as some of the reviews on Best Buy’s website claim.

[@G17-911]

I can’t imagine why you want to watch tv,looking up toward the ceiling. We have the same setup as you, Caleb. Sitting down, it’s at eye level and more comfortable to watch.

[@michael-4k4000]

I have a display on the front floor and back ceiling for Atmos quality vision or what I like to call Dolby Vision, where you can look down and up and see a different perspective. If anyone is looking for a pro, give me a ring and will work with you or anyone else to help bring there Dolby dreams to life!

[@kingtrance307]

@@michael-4k4000- Why would they call up some random dude on the internet? 😂 Call a reputable business‼️

[@dylanrazor8908]

Tv installer here. New home builds are designed to usual only put the tv above the fireplace. I always tell my client that it’s a bad idea but people love the look 🤷‍♂️

[@BobFrostV]

If you sit far away and even a little bit reclined then it isn't a big deal.

[@allie12212]

I’m paranoid about that, even though the aesthetic is pretty, I would worry about possible fire hazard

[@SpidermanandJeny]

I don't understand how someone would like the look. Also, this must be a North/north east thing. I thought fire places had already been phased out and ppl were just using heaters. It's been a long time since I've seen a newer house with one

[@08vtec6]

r/tvtoohigh will bring them back to reality

[@antoniolewis]

@@SpidermanandJenyFireplaces are still around in new builds. Mostly gas and electric though. We got a fireplace as an option in our new house. We live in Charlotte, NC.

[@humanitysonlyhope]

I am wondering if the information in this video about the S89C is correct or not. I work at Best Buy and I was told by our Samsung factory rep that the S89C is a QD-OLED in the US. The only difference for US buyers is the stand. The S89C in European and Asion markets is supporsed to be an LG wOLED panel to meet EU power consumptions standards. I wish we had it on display in the store so I could just see it for myself but they didn't allocate a display unit. Hopefully the Samsungrep I spoke to wasn't spreading incorrect info to Best Buy sales staff.

[@stopcreepingyouweirdo]

It is not correct. It wasn't correct when it was published and it's not correct three months later.

[@Massive77G]

@digitaltrends The 77S89C in usa and canada is qd-oled with all the same specs, just missing metal top plate cover on the stand and samsung tap feature. SO many people on forums and bestbuy have conformed it. Its a woled panel is overseas market but the bestbuy model is qd-oled. I bought 1 just for the hell it to test it out against my 77c9 and 77c1. I Took macro photos of it, posted online, it a qd-oled. same build same everything. S89c gets so much brighter in sdr and hdr. Next to lg C1 its so obvious its qd-oled.

[@BradBClips]

This is what I came here to say as well. Mistakes happen, Caleb still knows his stuff 💪

[@jeffureet9288]

My guess is that it contains a gen-1 QD OLED panel left over from the previous year, but stuffed in this year’s hardware and software.

[@bobbywaszak4102]

​@@jeffureet9288they didn't make a 77 inch qd OLED first Gen, only 2nd gen.

[@Massive77G]

@@jeffureet9288 they didn't make gen1 77inch panels. Ever reviews n pro said 77 ins gen 2 only. And the ana peak vaule in service menu show its gen 2. that's how everyone on the forums have been verfiying if the have a gen 1 vs gen 2 panel on their 55/65" tvs

[@mrberry292]

Last year's panel weren't in 77", so this is the new gen panel.

[@theunkownmr.562]

3D is amazing with in home UST short throw projectors. I love it!

[@cosmicabyss7358]

Wish they weren't as expensive as a T.V is. I want one but then when I compare prices I don't see why I wouldn't just get another T.V instead.

[@djalali59]

It’s unfortunate that instead of doing proper research on the S89C, you just parroted the manufacturer specs and called it a day. Look at all of the user reviews for the tv, including macro shots. It’s a QD-OLED panel.

[@allbundys]

I agree….Don’t comment unless you research yourself…To many people are saying it is

[@nametaken24]

Guy did 0 research. Bought s89c 3 days ago and am literally watching it now. The US model and canadian model are 100% QD panels. Pixel layout and ana peak value proves it's QD. Numerous others in comments confirm also. Has all the same features as s90c...do research next time.

[@Sas-wk9lj]

Guy = who?

[@stopcreepingyouweirdo]

@@Sas-wk9lj the video creator who is an "expert" in consumer TVs. The S89C was available at retail for a month before this video was published and he openly spread a false claim that it has a W-OLED panel.

[@user-ob3gg9yg9n]

Hmmm. What about all the reports and pictures popping up showing the S89c is QD OLED in the US?

[@charlie217009]

I agree, I bought the S89C on Black Friday and confirmed that it´s a QD-OLED panel due to the triangular RGB pixel pattern. I want to say that the WOLED panel was used the in the UK and not the U.S.

[@dizzzzy001]

After some research many have confirmed its a qdoled panel in the us. The thing is samsung never made a gen1 77’ qdoled panel so basically a s89c 77 has a gen 2 panel. I currently have a s90 65 and probably going to return it and get a 77 s89c.

[@DaddyJones92]

I picked up the S89C and it has a QD-OLED panel based on the pixel structure has no white pixels

[@bearxor]

I have had a MantleMount 340 for six years and it’s fantastic. I just upgraded to an 85” QM8 and had to upgrade to the MM740 and it was a no-brainer to just order the upgraded version. What I’m bummed about is that the max weight mount they make is only the 115lbs MM740 and now I’m right on the edge. If I wanted an 98” or 100” TV I won’t have a choice but to do a fixed frame above the mantle.

[@Caleb_Denison]

What’s up everybody! Great to see ya here. Thanks for all the fireplace feedback and helpful comments about audio dropouts! I heard back from Nakamichi and there’s a lot there but it looks like certain HDMI cables are causing issues. More details in this pinned comment later. I’m on the go but I’ll update soon!

[@michael-4k4000]

Caleb, I was like “hell no” when I read your title! Lol

[@Jacob-ed1bl]

No joke, I went to a friend of a friend's house and the TV was about 15 ft high and above the fireplace. It was one of the most idiotic things I've ever seen 😂.

[@andrec.9354]

What's your source on the S89C panel information? Seems that your information is not accurate.

[@neubauerjoseph]

I wanted to ask a friend of mine lives in a RV so what is the best tv for small space….. he wants to use it for PS5, tv service aka sling , and connecting a laptop what do you recommend?

[@neubauerjoseph]

Also I have a question 🙋‍♂️….. I have a Sony 55x900c from 2015 ….. my question 🙋‍♂️ is how long should I keep it until you recommend me to replace it. Keep in mind I don’t make lots of money 💰 my main concern is 3 things 1. How long until it will last 2. How long until things aren’t supported 3. If you was my friend what would you tell me about how often to upgrade your the newest version of what I have and what would that be because at the stores I get like 5 different answers .

[@johnheff7227]

I didn’t even bother to watch this video to post the following comment. As an engineer who worked on ergonomic projects, locating a tv above a fireplace is the absolute dumbest idea builders and homeowners can do. Place the tv at eye level so you do not strain your neck, shoulders and back. The heat issues will destroy the TV and any hidden wires and the amount of planning and engineering during construction will kill the builder. Locate a power and cable/internet box either right or left of the fireplace and you will enjoy a lifetime of relaxed video enjoyment. Period!

[@michael-4k4000]

I have a fire place, but no tv. Simple as that.

[@abelee8917]

What if i have a new home built this year and they took things like tvs above fireplace into consideration including little things like wire hiding outlets etc? In your experience in this case they would have considered those issues u stated?

[@johnheff7227]

You still must address the ergonomics of looking up to watch TV. Unless you plan to park your .... In a Barko lounger tilted all the way back in sleep position for the rest of your life, keep the TV at eye level and enjoy.

[@michaelwyckoff7593]

This is one setup I would be leary of because of heat from the fireplace. Plus the smoke from the FP getting on the TV screen. 😊

[@sage11x]

On the topic of 3D: I know this is a TV review channel and so what Imm about to say may be branded heresy but here goes… anyone interested in preserving and getting the most from their 3D movie collection should really consider a projector. While 3D was abandoned by television manufacturers- many projector manufacturers continue to support the format and 3D on a projector is GLORIOUS. In fact, it’s so good and so cheap to implement you could buy an entry level projector for next to nothing and use it solely for 3D playback. 1080p DLP projectors in the $500-1000 range produce fantastic 3D image quality and DLP link glasses are cheap. If you want one display to do it all I’d suggest budgeting a bit more. The BenQ HT4550i is about the best DLP money can buy and it does a bang on job of playing back 3D as well as producing a high quality 4K/HDR 2D picture. The Epson 5050ub is another excellent choice- while it’s a lamp model and therefore getting a bit long in the tooth it still produces one of the best pictures at it’s price point and comes with gobs of advanced features typically reserved for more exotic brand projectors.

[@techsamurai11]

Yeah, but my living room has no place to add a projector and neither does my other living room theater downstairs. These TVs have amazing picture quality and would shine with 3d.

[@jimv1983]

I have a Sony A80J and a Sony HT-A7000 soundbar and I get dropouts too. It doesn't switch to internal speakers. It just cuts out and then comes back. It also comes back at a lower volume for just a second or two and then returns to the previous volume.

[@chucklavrusky1976]

Hello, I was recently told that the s89c uses the QD OLED panel in the 77” model in the US. If that is true do you feel it’s a good buy at $1,799.00 during Super Bowl?

[@j.rfrazier1855]

Oof. So close, Caleb. We all thought it was a WRGB, but confirmed reviews from owners say it is QD OLED. Pixel structure and everything. Samsung pulled a switcheroo on us. How dare they.

[@j.rfrazier1855]

And I’m not being critical of you here - more Samsung and their lack of transparency. You’re a star. ⭐️

[@fandibus]

We put our TV above the fireplace as we have no other place to put it(house built 2020). However it's not an issue at all. Most fireplaces have a mantel which blocks the heat. And our mantel is low enough that eye and neck strain isn't an issue. We cannot use a mantel mount because the mantel itself would block it's function, it would lower and hit the mantel which is 14" deep.

[@grimdicer152]

I think it's time that 3D makes a come back, especially now that we have 4k TV's.

[@playnicegames]

Agreed

[@paul8926]

I used to own a Samsung 3D Flatscreen, and loved every minute of it, wish it would come back. I currently own a Sony OLED, but wish it was 3D.

[@CasepbX]

Once glasses free 3D becomes cheaper to produce I could see it happening. That is probably 10 years away though.

[@cosmicabyss7358]

One of the problems is many people get headaches and blurry vision from 3D. It doesn't bother me I love 3D but I know a lot of people my age personally and older generations that can't stand it. My mom refuses to see 3D movies now because she says it hurts her eyes.

[@SeekingYahweh]

I contacted Samsung today and asked the differences between S89c and S90c and they said the stand of course and the built in audio codec as the S90c has 2.1.2 higher end codec and speakers where the s89c is just 2.1 channel. I have a Sonos arc so going with s89c. 🎉

[@ohmyggg]

Re: the A95L reverting itself back to TV Speakers, mine does the same with my Sonos Arc and I’m hooked up to the soundbar via the eARC port using a high quality HDMI 2.1 cable. Seems to do it more when I turn on the TV using my Apple TV remote, and not so much when the TV is turned on with the Sony remote, but I haven’t really isolated what’s causing it.

[@michael-4k4000]

Uggh! Sony A95L is a game changer asap

[@SkylinesSuck]

I too have had issues with my Sony A80L and my Sony A7000 soundbar exactly as described in the video. I'm using the HDMI cable Sony provided with the sound bar as well.

[@Raiga2k9]

Caleb can you please give your impression of a Sony flagship OLED paired with the Sony HTA-7000 sound system(sub and rear speakers as well) via acoustic center synch? I rarely see anyone talking about Sony’s Acoustic Center Synch functionality

[@techsamurai11]

You may not believe this but when we were looking for a house 20 years ago, the first thing I'd look for is a wall to fit a TV (CRT back then) along with my speakers and be visible from the kitchen. You'd be shocked how difficult that was back then - the American open floor plan concept is a lot less common as you'd think. But having a TV that can be enjoyed by everyone in the house is definitely a massive plus. My only problem was compromising the position of the 2 surround speakers by placing them slightly off angle but I got Atacama Nexus 6 Stands to make up for them visually. My 2nd genius move was investing in a BDI cabinet - they only had 1 model in 2 sizes back then - which allowed me to hide the center channel speaker (albeit limited to 8 inches height) and hide all AVRs and consoles while having the ability to use wireless remotes and see the information on the device which coupled with Auto Display off (on the old Marantz AVRs) was amazing. Sadly, BDI doesn't make that model anymore with the glass panels and Denon and Marantz don't have Auto Display Off to make the devices dark.

[@AdRock]

Ive the Dragon with Sony A80J with stock HDMI from Nakamichi and no issues. I know that’s no help.

[@LoveStallion]

1:25 I love b-roll. No one has ever stepped back, so excited about the tree lighting up.

[@phantomgfx580]

10:33 this is misleading. Alternating frames was active 3D with the active shutter glasses. That did display full 1080p per eye. The issue was the flicker for those who were susceptible to noticing it as well as ghosting due to syncing issues. Passive is where you were receiving half resolution on a 1080p set of which there were some oled 3D tvs. But the ones I belive the writter is talking about are the 4k oled 3D's of which some one else has already stated, allowed for full 1080p. resolution per eye. As a 3D fan I just wanted to clarify. Head mounted displays like nreal and rokid also offer micro oled displays with 3D capabilities and ofcourse vr/spatial computing headseats like apple vision might be the natural progression of the medium for the masses. Otherwise Been following this channel for years, great work. Glad you are open to feedback and corrections.

[@KC-pf4tj]

I was sad to hear that 3D tv’s are not going to be made for now. I still have an old LG 47” that’s 3D capable and still works beautifully. I’m in the process of installing a wall mount for the next tv which will be a Hisense U8K. I was blown away watching one in store. Haven’t decided if I get the 65” or bigger. Btw, love all your videos!

[@ThePalaeontologist]

Well this was handy. I was literally on the verge of ordering an LG G3 for my home here in England, and it's not the biggest place and the typical UK home sizes plays into this. Being built in the 1950's, the fireplace and mantelpiece were the centre of the house and this is very common in such British homes. However, this means that the only place I can put the LG G3 (thinking 55 inch or 65 inch) over a wall section which leads up into the chimney. It's not that the chimney is even functional anymore it is just still there like it is in a lot of houses in the UK. The thought had occurred to me the rising heat or convection from the fire would potentially mess with the pixels, lenses or...something (I dunno) in the TV. I was wondering if this would be a big problem. I'm hoping to get the TV installed before the end of the January Sales to catch the price reduction. The fire we have is an electric fire which isn't sending up smoke or conventional thermal convection from a coal/wood burning fire. It's got an LED digital display and you can change the colours of the artificial flames and it doesn't look bad. A very glassy front on the fire and the heat rising from the top grill. I'd liken it to being like a giant toaster. I don't particularly want to have the LG G3 just a few feet above that, but the temperatures are usually on ranging between 18-36 degrees Celsius with settings for 1000W and 2000W heating. It shuts itself off if it gets too hot - after a few hours. It can get quite...toasty...in the smallish, typical UK sized living room. But there is literally nowhere else to put the thing. Do you think it's risky or is it not that bad?

[@verticostate]

Possibly a fix for Scott while asking about the A95L Nakamichi problem.. I have the same issue on my LG G3, and what seems to work for me is to enable HDMI eArc support in the setting, wait for the sound to play and then disabling it again. This seems to keep the HDMI handshakes stable. I already ruled out the hdmi cable as the culprit since its very new and the sound does keep working after my little procedure. With eArc enabled all the time I keep getting the audio cut-outs, so best to leave it disabled for now when it works. I hope the Sony has this ability under the HDMI settings. I am on the latest firmware for the LG G3 so hopefully a firmware updates fixes this whole mess in the future.

[@michael-4k4000]

The Dragon is coming to you and he’s angry because he wants to go loud

[@ChiefGutmaster]

Another issue worth mentioning is to avoid using HDMI switches. They are infamous for dropping handshakes between TVs and audio equipment for no reason at all.

[@bobbywaszak4102]

My s89c is a qd-oled. It's not a woled. It has filmmaker mode. I think it's a s90c because I can't find any differences besides maybe a metal plate missing on the stand.

[@bobbywaszak4102]

I have a B7 and now s89c and I can confirm the pixel layouts with up close photos. Anyone who wants a qd-oled should 100% buy an s89c. It's a steal and an amazing TV.

[@Caleb_Denison]

Hey guys, I’m hearing that this is indeed, the case from other sources as well. I’ve reached out to Samsung to confirm. Please accept my apologies if I have gotten this completely wrong. It is very embarrassing, and quite frankly, I am mad as hell about it.

[@bobbywaszak4102]

@@Caleb_Denison Not mad at all. Just making sure you know 🙂

[@JBlakeS23]

A drop down mount to place the tv right in front of the fire….. smart Caleb.

[@dizzzzy001]

Im not sure if ill get an answer but what do you think about the us version of the s89c 77’’. The us version seems to have a qdoled panel. Did a lot of research and many other people have taken micro pictures of the pixels and show the same pixel formations as in the s90c. I even checked on bestbuy and they confirm it as well. People who say it has a woled panel, when looking at the 83’’ s90c on best buy you can see in the specifications section where it says picture quality enhancement technology it says HDR oled because that panel is indeed a woled panel but when looking at the s89c it says quantum hdr meaning it does in fact have qdoled. It even has a gen 2 qdoled panel since samsung never made a gen 1 77’’panel version. I just want to know if all the color accuracy and peak brightness etc. are the same and it is in fact a repacked s90c and they just slapped s89c with a lower price on it.

[@kingtrance307]

You are correct. The S89C is manufactured exclusively for Best Buy.

[@dizzzzy001]

⁠@@kingtrance307yea I ended up purchasing it and it’s a qdoled panel. Looks really good and it has all the features of a q90c. I’m not sure why no one has talked about it since it’s the best bang for the buck oled tv.

[@SkylinesSuck]

I too have had issues with my Sony A80L and my Sony A7000 soundbar exactly as described in the video. I'm using the HDMI cable Sony provided with the sound bar as well.

[@disteenguishedmonstoor]

Although I've not purchased one, there are many current model projectors and short throw laser projectors that include 3D.🙂

[@cosmicabyss7358]

I just wish the good projectors didn't cost as much as a T.V. I was thinking about buying a projector but after comparing prices I found at least for me simply buying a new T.V made more sense.

[@n815e]

@@cosmicabyss7358I don’t understand this comment. It replaces your tv, so why should it be cheaper than a tv?

[@cosmicabyss7358]

@@n815e Because T.V is better in just about every way aside from size. Picture is way better on a T.V than a projector.

[@abelee8917]

Also, with these newer homes like mine, they built these fireplaces such that the heat will only come out from the top vent facing downwards with glass over the entire fireplace. Im not sure if this will help with heating issues but i sure hope so as i am going to be investing a lot of money into mounting a tv above it. (No other place to put it)

[@BertoJA876]

The Stupid trend of putting the TVs over old big fireplace started during the late 2000s... And TV shows like HGTV is the cause of this type of installation and neck pain for most people that did it😊

[@antoniolewis]

It basically depends on the size of the room and where the fireplace is positioned. If the room is big and the fireplace is centered, it typically works out fine.

[@Matthew-Coburn-Da-Dude]

I had a 3D tv and it was great. Vizio & LG didn't have the powered glasses. My LG did 2D to 3D and actually looked good that way. Only used that feature for movies & new tv show episodes but not rerun syndicated shows. While my LG doesn't work anymore my mom's Vizio 3D tv still works great.

[@whogg0521]

Always a great vid. I am one that won't get rid if my C6 for the 3D reason. 3D OLED is brilliant!

[@andreyvyasenya]

I’ve had soundbars and Sony TVs and had the issue with the pop up with all of them

[@dhowting]

About tv's above the fireplace.... I just clicked play so unbaislly can say....two residences I've lived in(apartment and second house......first house we used an extra bedroom with a media bench as our "theater" room) the only spot logically to put the tv in the room was above the fireplace. Largest tv I've owned is a 52" so I can install the mount and hang the tv eadily myself. Haven't had any technical issues (mantel extend far enough to deflect any excess heat and we choose our couches and ottoman so we can sit back with our feet up for extended periods of time (gaming) without fatigue. Having the tv elevated, I think, in combination with my surround sound package gives more of a Cinema experience.....yeah yeah I know i need a bigger tv so I've been eyeing a TCL 70" 4k HDR10 Lol at the Samsung question....just buy an LG then?! 😂😂😂

[@asphodyn]

Have an A95L with the Sony AZ5000ES receiver via eARC, and I get a brief switch to TV speakers too when I turn on my Apple TV 4k+ (connected to the A95L). Using certified ultra high speed HDMI 2.1 cables.

[@Chadodoy]

S89C is confirmed to be QD-OLED. He’s pinned a comment correcting his mistake. If that’s the case, this is one hell of a deal

[@peterrabbit2719]

Caleb, did you ever get a final answer from Samsung regarding what panel display the S89C has?

[@stopcreepingyouweirdo]

Yes, it's the same answer he would have received if he looked at the product that was for sale when the video was filmed, the S89C that was released in the US earlier in 2023 as a Best Buy Exclusive is a QD-OLED, just has a different stand and price point from an S90C

[@michael-4k4000]

A 3D OLED would be amazing! I miss 3D! What does a TV need to be 3D? Is it just a chip?

[@Sas-wk9lj]

3D only looks good with big projector screens. On TV, not only it looks ridiculous ly bad and figures liliputian with no immersive experience, with the flicker it's unwatachable.

[@howardskeivys4184]

In an ideal world, you don’t want he the heat from your fireplace to rise. You want it to move out into your room. Fit an ornate shelf immediately above your mantelpiece, preferably one that matches your mantle and extends outwards by 4 to 5 inches from the mantle. You could even make it pelmet style. This will help deflect the heat away from your tv and even be a home for your remote control and act as a ‘cable tidy’.

[@TimRoc723]

Great work! Re Nakamichi sound drops: This may be totally irrelevant but my loss of audio handshake was related to eARC going from new Sony tv to a multichannel receiver. Similar symptoms - auto switching to from external speakers. Needed high quality cable but it finally stabilized when I assigned the receiver a fixed IP address. Go figure! Thought I would mention just in case.

[@kevinvizcainno]

I got my QD OLED S89c from Best Buy open box. $1650. Deal of the century. 77” of greatness

[@rockstarg57]

Just got mine today for $1499 (was $1596, but the manager marked down an additional $100 since I picked up open box sound bar as well).

[@graysonpeddie]

Mounting a TV above a fireplace? Of course not. I would strain my neck in the process. If someone were to do that, I would have to stand up and watch TV instead because I have a visual impairment. I've seen people hanging TVs so high up in some houses even without a fireplace. I would have to get a pedestal so I can see what I'm watching. Not a nice way to kick back and relax. The only way if I want to watch TV is if I have my computer and home theater equipment setup in a room, especially if the house has a basement. I travel with my family who are travel nurses.

[@antoniolewis]

It basically depends on the size of the room and where the fireplace is positioned. If the room is big and the fireplace is centered, it works out fine.

[@dquarks]

I'm glad to hear your opinion on this matter. If i would buy a home , this 📺 tv position could be a make or break decision 😮. Some people put it so high up near the ceiling, it looks like a panel only for advertisement watching at the mall or airport. When i used to arrive at the cinema late, I'd have to sit in the front roll. Neck pain as a result. 😢

[@neo4102]

S89C is 1799 now!! JUMP ON IT I just bought one

[@WaitTryFail]

i have a small shelf under the tv for remotes. it protects the tv from the heat

[@laurocantu3324]

Regarding the A95L / Dragon issue, I have a similar issue with my A80L and my Vizio soundbar. I do have an ultra high speed HDMI Cable and never had this issue prior to upgrading from my TCL 6 series. I've tried so many things but since its interment, I can't seem to recreate the problem. Force restarting the TV seems to help...sometimes.

[@robertt9342]

Worst part is, passive 3d TVs would have really benefitted from the higher density panel that 4K brought, so when you loss half the resolution it doesn’t cripple you experience as bad.

[@Caleb_Denison]

Truth

[@Sas-wk9lj]

The major common mistake people do in installing TVs and even projector screens is to hang them much higher than their eye level. As if it's a mountain peak to behold. And even if they do hang it bit lower, they usually keep it at their eye level meeting the center of the screen while in standing position! As a matter of fact, and as per my experience, TVs shoud be hanged/placed with their upper edge meeting at the level of your eye while you're at seating position. I'm not sure if you're familiar with the 'Balcony' seating in theatres in older days that used to be pricier than general seating below the balcony. The Balcony viewing would be looking a bit down on the screen. Thats the best position.For projector screens try to get the lower edge 6 inches apart from the floor. The immersive experience will increase as well. Try it out if you haven't done already.

[@stopcreepingyouweirdo]

The panel in the S89C is a QD-OLED, the only difference from the S90C is the stand and the price tag. I have to say that it's not a great look acting as an authority/expert on a product based on foreign trade press instead of the actual manufacturer and retailer specs for a product that was available in the US a month before this video was published. I get it - KZbin doesn't always age well, but this is a top-rated video when consumers search for S89C, and we're a few months out from the misinformation in the video, and most viewers don't read pinned comments. I'd love an edited version of the video, and think it's the ethically proper thing to do for tech journalism. It was wrong when it was posted, it's wrong now, and it'll be wrong in six months unless action is taken. And the absolute GALL to keep a sponsored affiliate link to the purchase page of the S89C in the video description under the video improperly slagging on it? Total amateur hour over here.

[@EllGeeLabs]

I put my TV *in* *front* *of* the fireplace. Fireplaces are absolutely useless. And inefficient!

[@user-ob3gg9yg9n]

Well, you ROCK!

[@cjnelson79]

I only use my fireplace during the month of December.

[@glennharley945]

Regarding the Sonos and in ceiling speakers. Just wanted to share that about 10 - 11 years ago I went all in on Sonos for two houses, were great. BUT, just recently I have had about 5 of the 10 speakers go bad. Essentially the wifi section was going out and/or sound and no sound. Bottom line yes they are old, but like my man cave my speakers with a receiver will last pretty much forever. Just a comment as you may want to reconsider just how much you spend on Sonos when a good wired speaker will pretty much last forever. I am going just bare bones on Sonos with limited speakers. NO WAY would I go with a Sonos full system for say TV surround sound. Great episode as always!

[@randallsmith2521]

On the topic of TVs over the fireplace, I've started seeing more homes with corner fireplaces, as well as a move away from the giant walls of windows that encouraged putting the TV over the fireplace in the first place. Really the fireplace is the worst place to put a TV. The only advantage to having it over the fireplace I see is that in an open concept situation it can be more easily seen from the kitchen and dining room. For the majority of TV watching though, it is not a comfortable position.

[@scottborenstein8291]

TV above the fireplace is a no no in my opinion . The viewing angle is bad, it could be subjected to heat which is also bad. I would never do it, but to each his own. All of our TVs are on stands.

[@Glerox]

I bought a condo and the only TV place was over a fire place and the TV size limit was 65 inches for a 14 feet deep living room! Had no choice but to destroy the fire place 😂 it’s such a bad spot for a TV!

[@CRJ08]

You had me on the first half 😂 good job!

[@harisjaved1379]

Caleb I think it’s the worst location to put a TV! It’s extremely uncomfortable to watch at those high angles even 10-12 feet away.

[@richroggio]

that was great Caleb👍, I love the question and answer videos because you help me out also

[@Adrianek81]

S89C?😱 must new lower US version,great video as always Caleb,Greetings from UK✌️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@KimmoJaskari]

TVs over a fireplace is just a weird thing, seems to be mostly American. But yeah, Mantelmount or something similar, a motorized one is actually pretty cool.

[@DarkKnight-gw4gw]

Are the mantel mounts even able to accommodate heavy 85” TVs? Which models?

[@railerswim]

10:53 projectors are pretty much the only modern display devices being manufactured that still somewhat focus on 3D.

[@falconfpv8658]

Great content as always! I have my aging 75" sony above the fireplace. I bought a couch that reclines back FAR. about 3/4 reclined puts my natral gaze right centered with the tv and is very comfrotable! Was thinking of upgrading this year. I was leaning pretty hard toward a good deal on a last year 77" G2 that my local store still has in stock..... But a 77" qd-oled s89c for under 2K.... now I'm not sure what to get! lol

[@marcse7en]

Neck strain could definitely be an issue; but also heat rises, so if a fireplace actually produces heat, said rising heat could damage or shorten the lifespan of components. Electronics don't like excessive heat! Glad I could help! 🤣

[@johnmossjr1898]

I love watching all your videos, but I want to tell you you should tell people that anybody that has a Hisense TV should buy a Hisense soundbar because it's a flawless connection. There's no CEC problems at all

[@jaydenford1760]

Can’t remember the model but I bought a Sony smart tv and hooked it up to a Samsung soundbar. Had the exact same issue where every ~15 minutes the audio would cut out briefly and it would say “switching to TV speakers” then would switch back about 10 seconds later. Super annoying! Tired using a different HDMI cable then I moved the soundbar to a different TV and didn’t have any issues so suspect the issue was with the TV. Tried resetting/updating and playing with pretty much every audio setting available with no success. Contacted Sony and after running through similar troubleshooting steps with them they ended up advising me to return it. Had similar issues with other Sony TVs too.

[@tomreidy1237]

Another great video Caleb. Maybe you could start doing these twice a week until Christmas?

[@techsamurai11]

Well, 3d is turning out to be hard to find at the theater too even real IMAX theaters... For me 3d added about a 1 point to 1.5 points per movie especially if the movie was done well in 3d. Shockingly, it didn't bother me one bit that the resolution was cut in half. Of course, passive was better than active 3d not only in terms of comfort but also perception. It's not for all content but it does improve movies.

[@user-mr1xj4zi6r]

Please bring this to the attention of anyone you can at CES or any of your other contacts. I like many have difficulty hearing, therefore I use bluetooth headphones. I recently purchased a U7K tv, only to find it no longer supported dual audio out. In other words, I can’t enjoy watching tv with headphones while anyone else watching is using tv speakers or vise versa. My only option now is to return tv and spend almost 1.5-2x more for Samsung, for it is the only manufacturer that apparently still supports (people with disabilities) multiport/dual audio out. Hopefully by bringing awareness, others like me will have choices in the future. Thanks!

[@chrismaiers4020]

I used a spare 2x4 I had (straight line for line of sight) to figure out where to mount my TV based on how we were sitting in our recliner and reclining couch. I used a full motion mount, and it worked great. The 2x4 also helped with placement of furniture in the room. You could do the same thing with a laser pointer, but that was not an option for us as it drove our dogs crazy.

[@chrismaiers4020]

@@paulc5389, we basically did the Pythagorean Theorem to figure out the desired distance for the furniture. I set the hypotenuse as the desired linear viewing distance.

[@robertt9342]

@@paulc5389. I wonder what he would think of people using his theorem to calculate tv viewing distances?

[@jamesdellasala9548]

10:22 I’ve actually had problems with audio output switching between my Sony A95S and my Sony HDMI eARC speaker system too! It only happens for me when the tv wakes up from sleep mode though. Funnily enough though, even though Caleb recommends keeping the software up to date, the issue actually only began for me after the latest software update back on October 30th(!!)

[@spyplane3979]

Spyplane good thing to not do is update till u hear what others think Ive updated once but never to latest on mine Im running a80j 65 with a7000 and rear speakers sounds awsome when gaming.

[@brucethen]

I am considering mounting the TV above the fireplace, it's the only wall mount location in my living room. The 2 end walls are taken up by large windows. I have one advantage in that the fireplace is no longer used. There is a large radiator mounted on the wall opposite the fireplace. So it was good to hear about these mantle mounts, even if amazon UK doesn't have them ( or a 6-9 month delivery, lol)

[@cosmicabyss7358]

If you don't use the fireplace then go for it. Heat degrades electronics a lot faster though especially concentrated heat from a fireplace.

[@majicogarcia8417]

Just Tell the truth. Your wife wont let you put it in front of the fireplace.

[@danielbray5481]

Accountable and self deprecating, a rare trait in humans these days. Great job Caleb for parsing the signal from the noise.

[@johnnyskan]

Next frontier for 3D movies at home is probably VR/AR glasses. Apple's Vision products will support 3D movies through iTunes Store / Apple TV+, and if popular I suspect Netflix and others will follow.

[@bluehorizon5149]

On the Samsung tv mentioned question, not only is the TV Panel different, The processor IS TOO.

[@ThatChristiankid320]

Should I buy the Samsung S90C?

[@kwillee93]

In modern homes today, the fireplace is a lot thinner and gas/ electric so that the TV can get lower to eye level. It’s beautiful IMO. It’s must better than the large fireplaces in early 2000’s or older homes

[@ActiveAngel2010]

Could you elaborate on one of your statements on TV placement? "[Even if you angle the tv down, you still will not get all the picture quality]" What does this mean? Is this due to shortcomings in the construction of modern TVs, the physics of light exiting the tv, or the biological capabilities of eyes when the body or head is in different positions? Feel free to get technical and/or provide sources.

[@user-kk4wg5we1d]

Hi there, about the switching audio issue with the A90L I would like to comment that I have the same issue with my Sony A80J OLED and my JNL 9.1 Soundbar, every time I turn it on and watch either a Blue-ray movie or streaming , the tv switchs to tv speakers from audio system and viceversa up to 3 times. I had tried different HD cables, check the Audio output options on the tv and I haven't find a solution, it may be a Sony issue? is there any suggestion to fix this issue? Any suggestion will be really appreciated.

[@darrencummings8009]

How come you don't look at panasonic tv and am looking for a new tv round 55 Inc and I have my tv on most of the day and need something that last thanks from uk

[@tacopilot]

Um I think the S89c has the same QD screen the S90c has. I am seeing conflicting data

[@Shogun973]

he corrected himself in pinned comment

[@pjte6748]

Another KZbin reviewer says it is a QD Oled??

[@jibosnjak9840]

Imagine having the privilege to put a TV wherever you want, and then making fun of people that can only put it above the fireplace because it’s the only place that it can fit…

[@AustinPS97]

The 3D topic has me thinking how years ago, when the big manufacturers(Sony and others) were pushing 3D displays, I REALLY wanted a 3D TV for whatever reason. Obviously ended up not getting one and was given a cheap Vizio TV that had to be replaced by a low-tier Samsung TV.

[@Pienimusta]

Perhaps we will see renewal of 3D at some point. Probably not any time soon. Remember Nvidia pushing 3D gaming so hard in the past.

[@jjguillen65]

That’s definitely me, I had no choice but to place my qled on top of the chimney. You win some and you lose some. 😅

[@acche-rc]

3D is not dead for dlp projects or one of those sexy ultra short throw laser projector

[@johncraig5372]

Thank you, Caleb. Always enjoy your updates! I was going to submit a question on an issue I have with a Sony/Bose combination. Then you addressed the Sony/Nakamichi question. With respect to the question on the Sony and the Nakamichi 'drop-outs', this is similar to the issue that I have had from the start with my Sony A8G and Bose 900 soundbar. When turning the TV on, it either takes an extended period for the TV/Soundbar to start up or the Bose does not connect at all and the TV messages "Switching to TV speakers" or some variation. After many hours on the phone and in chats with Bose (Who were patient and professional), it remains unresolved (Really like the bar; really frustrated at the drop-outs and requirement to re-boot the TV and soundbar until they connect). I attributed it to an earlier broadcast when you vented about the poor performance/state of CEC. Is it Sony? (A similar issue with an 850D and a Bose 500)...or is it Bose? ...or is it CEC? Or is it that I have an aura that messes up all the tech in my house? (That is my wife's answer...) Does this happen (potentially) with all TVs and all soundbar combinations? (From other comments, it seems that it might..)

[@michael-4k4000]

10 bit color is good, but my Uncle Ned said you need at least 11 bit for true reference quality!!!!

[@Kerwonderful]

Great stuff Caleb. Keep up the great work!

[@SchoenmakerijdeSaen]

I got one of the rare last 3D OLED UHD. the LG OLED55E6V (2016) with pasif glasses 🕶️ (no batterys) ❤❤ price then €2000,-

[@BudFuddlacker]

Mounting a TV above a fireplace is great…if you’re a Psychopath