TV documentary examining the Toxteth riots.

[@oliviabrady8855]

Hi I am currently completing a masters in creative writing and was planning to write a piece on the toxteth riots and was wondering if you would be interested in getting in touch to talk about it? Thank you

[@oliverhwd]

Lived on South Street, just off Parly till I was 15. Wasn’t born till 82 but recognise a lot of faces in this. What a community it was. Proud to be from Tocky

[@CARLIN4737]

There is a film called Babylon, Filmed in and around Brixton in 1980. It is an excellent film that predicts the inevitable unrest in brixton in 1981.

[@AB_Deck]

is that the one with Aswads singer in it ?

[@kay-marie1076]

It wasn't predicted it was planned.

[@octaviussludberry9016]

@@kay-marie1076 Here we go. Why was it planned? Can you provide sources? Can you cite anything aside from your opinion?

[@charlieminaj2]

@@octaviussludberry9016 the 1984 PACE “police And Criminal Evidence Act” legislation🤫👀

[@carltheblue.2531]

I lived on Lodge Lane over a shop in 1981 . Witnessed the hole thing and you had to be there to understand how bad the bizzies were then especially to the lads of mixed race it was awful. Front Line 💪

[@stephensmith4480]

I remember the Milk floats being driven like dodgem cars around parli and from memory, there was a Fiat car showroom opposite the Dairy that got the treatment. They were scary times, the Bizzy`s only had themselves to blame. I used to have a pint on a sunday lunchtime with my uncle and Rachel freemans brother in the united services club at the bottom of Admiral st.

[@SoulOnTopJB]

I was there myself, totally agree with what you say, you couldn't step outside your house without risk being stopped by the Task Force

[@stephensmith4480]

@@SoulOnTopJB I know mate,they were horrible B******S. My Dad lived in Bentley Rd at the time.

[@lindMW]

They where a great the Real thing I went to school with one or their cousins Maria Whenten 'll never forget them riots all down to the chief police officer who was hiding in his house while this was going on all because he was a Raceist & don't forget Liverpool as the most mixed race community in the country so black & white ppl wernt allowing it to carry on simple as that. stay safe 💙 from Liverpool 😷

[@CARLIN4737]

Same in Brixton where i lived.

[@T4SelNiNO]

It's funny that the "community police" of the 80s where simply there to gather information on local black and mixed race people rather than to actually serve the community.

[@CARLIN4737]

Tried it in Brixton. I think they burned the office down along with the jobcentre?

[@ellisset]

Hi, I'm from Toxteth and I wondered if you could please tell me where this aired initially // how did you access this footage?

[@SoulOnTopJB]

Hi, I can't recall, Granada TV perhaps, circa early 80's, from Toxy with love 😁👍

[@MrStax40]

We need this now

[@CARLIN4737]

its still as relevant today . 2011 riots etc.

[@samkennedy5554]

Lived in Lime Grove then, it was mad times for an 11 year old. I just loved the fact we were off school (Tiber St). The Lane was the best place to have grown up. Live in Everton now but my home will always be Tocky 😍

[@SoulOnTopJB]

My life long mate lives in Lime Grove, a small cul-da-sac of 8 houses 😉

[@simonyip5978]

Most people who I've met call Toxteth 'Liverpool 8' or maybe 'the South End'. Hardly anyone from Toxteth call it Toxteth.

[@SoulOnTopJB]

People I knew called it Toxy or L8, South End is Dingle way

[@madambutterfly4352]

The South end is not Toxteth...

[@MrTerryforsyth]

It’s what happens when certain individuals break the law, get arrested and call it police harassment.

[@robbojohnson5759]

you culdd feal the power of the ppl in tthe air the smell of things burning the sound of the riots and music playing from the record shop as it burnd on loge lane and the unerty of the ppl was powerfull and the sound of the police runing away thru ppl houses to get away from the rioter black and wight united as one plice men satt on the pavments crying and feearing for there lives coss thay new what thay had done for mounth and were now paying the price toxteth united like never befor

[@SoulOnTopJB]

I was there mate on Parly.

[@robbojohnson5759]

the flames could be seen 25 to 30 miles away

[@jonathancarroll6358]

Malcolm and Rodney Swainbank

[@CARLIN4737]

The SUS law and PACE is still a problem today because of the heavy handed use of those laws.

[@daisychain3007]

The fact that Liverpool was built on slavery was also mentioned even in 1981. This may have given rise to the Black Lives Matter movement in the UK. I understand the anger of the black community about this, but this is history and cannot be changed. The world was a different place hundreds of years ago. The world was and still is a cruel place. We cannot change the brutality of people in the past. What we must do is challenge brutality, cruelty and slavery today. There are plenty of places in the world where slavery still exists. We should work on abolishing it there.

[@SoulOnTopJB]

History, living conditions, job opportunities did not bring people out to the streets to riot, it was all about the Police, and their constant harassment of the community. Once the touch paper was lit it the powder keg exploded.

[@CARLIN4737]

Shut up . This was about unemployment and the misuse of the SUS act and absolute hatred of Thatcher and the police. Nothing else.

[@CARLIN4737]

I hate people like you. id riot against Liberalism.

[@CARLIN4737]

@@SoulOnTopJB yep she knows absolutely nothing.

[@kristinaking4680]

@@SoulOnTopJB what was police harassment to people?

[@oliverhwd]

Brilliant that. From a proud Liverpool 8 man

[@SoulOnTopJB]

me too lar👍🏻

[@paulmcdonough1093]

I lived under the real thing in Englefield green toxteth

[@CARLIN4737]

Me too 81 and 85.

[@CARLIN4737]

10.40 tells you the truth.

[@daisychain3007]

It is understandable that black people of that time were frustrated about unemployment and poor housing, but why take out their frustrations on the police? The police is not the government. It cannot be held responsible for the lack of jobs or poor housing that angered so many people.

[@SoulOnTopJB]

The 1981 riots had nothing to do with poor housing or even unemployment, it was all about the Police. The Police brutalised the L8 community, even the Chief Ken Oxford accused the l8 community being the result of liaisons of prostitutes and seafarers . Enough was enough, the community fought back.

[@leenzjeenz]

Such an embarrassing comment.. I literally have no idea why you didnt pick up a book or have a Google before typing.

[@CARLIN4737]

The police were the very reason for the blacks and the white youths rioting. Your liberalism needs parking up and burning.

[@alanpengo3335]

The police were racist thugs ,corrupt, thieves the lot of them in L8 in 70s,80s,90s and a lot still are, we have you been

[@gerardrimmer1601]

Swainbanks aka Rialto filled with with rubbish furniture that a blind man wouldn’t buy the two brothers made a nice few Bob off the insurance, l would like to see a copy of the claim form that would make interesting reading , ha ha ha

[@SoulOnTopJB]

Plus years of ripping off the local community before it went up in flames, they did alright before and after.