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[@johnbowkett80]

I find it quite disturbing that they will chase you at any cost cost ..... Shame they don't prosecute groomers with such gusto and vigour . 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@gc19901]

Can’t chase themselves

[@oxfordsparky]

they do.

[@johnw574]

Prosecuting grooming gangs is a lot of effort though

[@devonboy3410]

Most of the establishment are pedos that is why

[@Zodliness]

The BBC has long been established as a paedophile protection ring and a place where truth goes to die.

[@WillCamx]

You don't have to prove you don't need a TV licence. They have to prove that you do need one. Never do anything to assist them.

[@pdfgotwreckedbyasmracwolvi8205]

And never say anything that they might "purposely" misunderstand, manipulate, misrepresent or misconstrue, they're just as devious as the police

[@BedsitBob]

And video any and all visits.

[@jimosullivan1389]

Keep your gob shut. You are not obliged to talk to anyone.

[@hippopotamus86]

They often lie. Just them being able to see a TV through a window tends to be enough for a warrant for some reason.

[@jimosullivan1389]

@@hippopotamus86 Possibly. Owning a Tv and watching it are different in Law. The scum cold callers usually get a conviction only if peopel admit to the offence. Anyone looking through my windows from my lawn " as my wife was partially dressed" will need dental work.

[@DarkSalome]

I am not a native UK person. I have lived here now over two decades. I still, can not get my head around the TV licence. The fact BBC controls the entire populace over TV SHOWS…is amazing. Particularly as the same BBC, offers the same shows to other countries…free. It holds the people of the UK hostage. Threatening their well-being, their mental health(its stressful wondering if you have fallen foul of it), the financial health of some people…and no one stops it! It has such a massive control that it boggles the mind! Why on earth does the government and the people(en mass) allow it? Why are the courts still backing this stuff up?

[@nicholasr39]

I am amazed the BBC still exists because they are archaic, out of touch and irrelevant and very biased. I don't know anyone who likes them. All they need to do is put TV advertisements in between programmes and that would end this nonsense!

[@Euphoftoday]

I haven't had a licence for 4 years. I stand up against these things. Council tax next.

[@TwoBassed]

@@Euphoftoday- 15yrs here, not missed it!

[@specialresident22]

i hope they are the bbc forced into a subscription model, that would mean i could get sky movies or virgin. i cant even get them without the bbc being part of the deal. The bbc actually prevents me paying for content i would like.

[@nicholasr39]

​@@specialresident22I've managed to evade the licence despite subscribing to Sky for years. They need to prove it all, If Sky or Virgin handover information to them, I would have been caught years ago. They did once come asking why I hadn't got one at the address and I said I do not have a TV, they do not have then power to come, they are just Capita sales staff no more and do not tell them anything. I also managed to evade it for so long also because you cannot see inside from the outside of my home.

[@markcharles776]

Perhaps we should charge the BBC for sending TV signals through our properties and bodies . Those signals are entering without permission.

[@SKELTER.]

My body my choice, and I don't want to receive TV! 😁

[@user-jh6cg2rx6n]

Agreed.🥃

[@JohnWalker-rt6ue]

Don’t call them “inspectors or officers” they’re simply doorstep sellers.

[@graham1281]

Bullies are what I call them

[@Mr_Ashley]

Goons

[@hughmcbeath5463]

There stooges come in two's very smelly

[@aleopardstail]

apparently pointing a camera at them is the quickest way to get rid of them, for some reason they dislike the way they operate being recorded

[@thomas.parnell7365]

@@aleopardstail in that case iv covered on that basis

[@HappyBagger]

I've saved £3k by ditching my TV and not having a TV licence some 20 years ago. Missed it for a few months but now when I'm at a club or my parents and the TV is on I'm so glad I've saved that cash. The rubbish that goes for "entertainment" and the propaganda that passes for "news" is a joke.

[@danisaac]

I got rid license 2 years ago wish I did so many years earlier like yourself. 👍

[@gingef5197]

I haven't missed live TV for years. I get all my news, weather, information and entertainment from KZbin, and Rumble from around the world on subjects that interested me.

[@magdebates2697]

exacta mundo tv turns you into a brain dead apathetic moron its all doom and gloom and mainstream lies.

[@rebeccaryan5030]

Why pay too be lied to, don't bother with any of bbc "news".

[@PatriciaBrown1711]

@@gingef5197 Are you allowed to watch youtube (without a license) as long as it's not live? thanks

[@zeggle5229]

We all know why the BBC doesn't want to employ a subscription model.

[@freespeechadvocate7492]

This is why I have a ring door bell, so I can tell them to bog off whilst not disturbing my TV show :)

[@raybrown4845]

😂😂😂

[@SimonWebbRCandModellingChannel]

Ignore all letters. Never phone them. Never email them. Never talk to them on the doorstep. I have been TVL free for 17 years now! I haven't watched telly in all that time and it has been such a blessing!

[@Avenger127]

TV license guy was stood in my garden,I dragged the bastard out my property screaming, IL take the next ones eyes

[@TommyT_]

@@Avenger127 No you didn't

[@Avenger127]

@@TommyT_ yes I did, I'd do the same to you if you was on my property..

[@TommyT_]

@@Avenger127 sure you would buddy

[@Avenger127]

@@TommyT_ yes, I would :)

[@JerGoes]

Any magistrate that issues a warrant based on the evidence of 'they have a phone' should be removed from office, it is beyond a stretch to interpretate owning a phone as 'evidence' of TV License evasion.

[@bjrnolavlangvad3061]

Absolutely! I own a car that could go faster than the speed limit , but that is not enough to give me a speeding ticket !

[@williamwilliams8145]

Saying they saw a phone is not evidence it's hearsay, also they are a private company for them to be able to get a search warrant is like me getting a search warrant to search my next door neighbors house because I said they stole my hedge trimmer.

[@ronnieince4568]

@@bjrnolavlangvad3061 no but it might be prima facie evidence that you are using the car without a Road Fund Licence and you now have to register the fact that the car is kept off road. The simple answer is not to engage with them in any way -as soon as they say they say they are tv close the door .Anything you say WILL be used to your disadvantage -keeping you mouth firmly shut is entirely to your benefit .

[@Thurgosh_OG]

Warrants are not issued anywhere near as often in Scotland because there, you actually need to convince a court official (Sheriff's Clerk or Procurator Fiscal) of the offence. In England and Wales, TVL merely send a electronic form into a centralised authority, stating they were told something, at such and such time and date. Whether the person 'spoken to' did say something or even someone else in the street has said something that might be vaguely construed as watching live TV then the form goes in and the majority get a warrant, via email.

[@pauleff3312]

I have a 9" kitchen knife in the drawer or on the ledge down there by the cooker - I haven't stabbed anyone with it yet but it does have the potential to be rammed into someone's chest for a Thursday evening disembowelment - are the police going to say "You were seen to be dicing an onion - but all axe murderers start out this way...., M'lud

[@johnmanley2168]

I've had no licence for 14 years. They came once and I declined their offer to inspect my appliances. They wrote a threatening letter which I ignored. After that I never heard from them again. So far I'm around £1500 better off. Do not let them in and do not engage with them.

[@AndyAndy-we9pe]

12 years saving for a TV licence at present pricing I have saved over £2000, this must be killing their hateful campaign to terrorise people into paying for a licence, lol, I love the fact that so many are refusing to pay a TV licence now , I mean 159 a year increasing to 172 a year pays for my Netflix and most of the subscription for Disney and I feel I get much better value for my money due to not being forced to watch adverts. Also, VPN gives me so much content. America and the uk are decades behind the quality of acting in most Asian countries, acting quality of videography, all is so fake on western shows now and netflix has enabled us to see how poorly we have been served up the crap we thought was so good at one point.

[@wayneb8620]

Simply don't ever let them into your house. If the goons visit you at you're door, simply state that you are not interested and close the door.

[@tuftistump]

Its utterly ridiculous that tv licensing can even apply for a search warrant to enter your home because of possible evidence of live or live recorded television.....and yet there is far worse crimes going on 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@billywhizz1656]

maybe the police should use this tactic might arrest more crimanals

[@davidgavin7280]

They rarely actually get a warrant and if they did it was almost certainly issued on false information i.e. lies. The goons depend far more on people self incrimination.

[@FTM1fenn]

Thee can't get a warrant if they have no name

[@dyschromotopia]

They can't.

[@stevedawg9588]

NO NO, not "possible" evidence, it must be clear evidence..i.e you told them or you let them in. They are not allowed to look through windows so even if they see your tv on, its not admissible evidence. They will not get a LEGAL warrant without clear evidence so don't be fooled by their fake ipad "warrants" they aint legal no matter what the no nothing police say as they have no clue on even basic laws.

[@TheConsideredMan]

I find it completely staggering that anybody actually watches TV anymore. I haven't had a licence for 25 years, and I miss it like I miss haemorrhoids...

[@richardh1764]

Never speak to them and never let them in.

[@666evo666]

Im a gamer and do not watch TV or use the apps online. I once let TV licence people into my house to prove I only have a PC setup in my living room and the TV was literally a decoration not plugged in and did not have a TV signal. I received a letter a week later telling me I had to cough up for a TV licence...Dont ever let these people into your house and just ignore them they dont care.

[@gavinnorthants]

Thanks for the tip about not letting them in. I was going to let TV Licence in, as I genuinely don't watch live TV. However the thought of them looking at my computer, or phone, and getting a search warrant. Then coming back and looking through my computer is a major invasion of privacy.

[@MultiSueH]

It’s very unlikely they will get a search warrant. Just say ‘no thanks’ and shut the door.

[@jeremyhall7495]

"very unlikely". I'm really convinced.

[@andrewhoughton-py1hq]

​@@MultiSueHshut the door??? Don't even open it

[@MultiSueH]

⁠Good suggestion Andrew. With a ring doorbell there’s no need to open the door to anyone who you don’t know.

[@AndyAndy-we9pe]

They will never get a warrant, no judge can issue a search warrent based on hearsay.

[@abdigitaluk_photography]

seriously, if investigators spent this amount of effort in investigating serious offences like rape, murder, robbery, then crime would actually come down!

[@aaronhurst4379]

100%, it boils my blood that these practices, which are reported to target the elderly and vulnerable just trying to go about their lives in peace, are given the time of day by law enforcement, yet so much worse gets ushered under the rug

[@ewanbaxter9199]

They are only employed by the BBC to investigate if you are watching TV without a licence - Observe and report - they have no other lawful powers

[@adamskiharvey3684]

I stopped paying for TV licensing when I realised it only applied to any BBC broadcastings, including radio. As I no longer own that kind of washing machine, I feel more independent with my free thinking. I don't feel brainwashed by media perceptions.

[@lesallison9047]

Not bothered with TV for 13 years, but I remember that fantastic feeling 😀 of not watching all that B.S. Enjoy your freedom! ✌♥️🇬🇧

[@adamskiharvey3684]

@@lesallison9047 same here. Not quite as long, but long enough to see the scam, corruption and brainwashing that has been inflicted on the people.

[@davidspear9790]

It doesn't just apply to BBC broadcasts, it's any live broadcast. So if you only ever watched shopping channels, you'd still need one.

[@adamskiharvey3684]

@@davidspear9790 that maybe your truth, but realistically the BBC gets their funding from TV licensing. The others are funded by advertising and sponsorship. TV license is only for BBC radio, TV and iPlayer streaming. We are programmed to believe it's all terrestrial channels.

[@ShyGuyTravel]

The revenue from TV Licensing funds only the BBC, yes, but you are required a licence to watch *any* channel if it’s broadcast live. Unfair, but worth knowing.

[@MrHowardMoon]

They kept harassing my friend and one day they phoned him to tell him they were going to come to his flat with the Police and that if he didn't let them in, the Police would arrest him. I took the phone and explained the law and they never turned up. I've seen TV Licence goons do some borderline illegal stuff when trying to gain entry into a property. Banging on the door and shouting "open up Police!" and then deny all knowledge once the door is opened and say "No, I said 'open up, please'". I've seen them come to a door, knock and tell the escorting Police to stay by the road and then when the person opens the door, they say "Those two Police Officers are going to arrest you if you don't grant me access to check your TV" knowing full well the Police were simply there to escort them to request access and make sure no violence took place. I've even seen them manipulate two Police Officers into forcing the person to let the TV Licence scum into the property and when they got inside, they turned his TV on, switched BBC One on using the TV's built in Freeview and said "Your TV is literally playing live TV as we speak and was when we walked in. You owe TV Licence". I despise the TV Licence and anyone who works for them.

[@beefsuprem0241]

Never let one of these TV licence people into your property or engage with them at all. Just say no thank you and shut the door.

[@Pugwash.]

I want the main channel providers to have an option to block material that requires a TV licence from their apps. It should be very simple to implement, and even a selling point for their own streaming services.

[@jack1d1XB]

Here's a thing, even if you watched live TV on SKY etc remember, the BBC DOES NOT OWN THE AIR WAVES transmitted by those companies otherwise they would be legally obliged to inform you of the requirement to be licensed in order to watch them! Clearly that's not the case, nor has it ever been as far as I know! imagine the lawsuit/Court Case if the BBC tried prosecuting those SUPER LARGE corporations, I don't think so, anymore than trying to prove you are, or have been 🤔🤨😏☺️😉

[@Fee-Nix]

I agree. Also the 'live TV channels' that the BBC licence demand, you the publc pay for,...ITV..live KZbin..ect.. should demmand a cut of the license payment.

[@sarahwagland1559]

Had a creepy guy out from TV licensing yesterday. He only showed ID when asked and I couldn't read his vehicle number plate cos it was so dirty, a criminal offence which carries a fine of £1000. I've written to them saying don't send criminals to my house, I've already told you that I don't need a TV licence, if you continue to threaten me and send dodgy people to my house it will be a course of conduct amounting to harassment and do they understand? I refuse to use the online form as they want you to tick a box saying "I understand" and I most certainly do not. I wouldn't watch the BBC if you paid me. Most stuff on TV is woke shite and the ads drive me insane. Is it so hard for them to believe that some of us have better things to do?

[@AndyAndy-we9pe]

When visiting my moms the other day and look for something to watch, i could not get over how much advertising there is. We should not be paying a tv licence they should be paying us to watch the crap they put on. Also, the pushing of minority groups, from races to disabled to alternative sexual preferences, or just people who enjoy dressing up as the opposite sex. Then the worst was before the rugby, 5 damn adverts for a boy that has one arm and plays rugby. i mean come on that was a mockery of the disabled. I prefer watching what i want without the disturbing forcing of ideas on me and the adverts that are so damn crappy. But the fun is coming, now so many have put a value of around 15 for advertising, that means in a court i can now show what value they put on my eyeballs watching their advertising. I am sure very soon, as advertising becomes more and more invasive, some big organisation is going to argue this with top lawyers and force them to pay us that £15 to watch their advertising. Google with their greed has ensured this has become a very hot topic and human rights groups will jump at the chance to hurt google for their abusive behaviour.

[@BridiesMammaG]

I also refused to trick the “ I understand “ box. They are so slippery

[@lulabellegnostic8402]

There are millions worldwide who watch the bbc via a satellite dish and a freeview box ( so they watch live tv as well). Why is it UK residents have to pay, but for the ROW it’s free?

[@KillerBill1953]

They are not inspectors, they are door to door salesmen for Capita, I believe, and receive a commission for "persuading" you to buy a licence. All the people I know who have been prosecuted for lack of a TV licence have engaged with these people and allowed them into their homes without a warrant.

[@iamrocketray]

99% of convictions are through confessions!

[@ClaireWill71uk]

Most of the doorstep tv licensing I have found are those on parole, probation or Ex inmates of HMPS.

[@elvisburgerking8675]

@@iamrocketray yep i went to 3 university, 3 times in my life, ( long time ago 80s ) each time in the first week we were taught the same thing about arrests and interrogation never confess to anything and never say anything to the police at all as 99% of convictions are through self confessions!

[@alexnelson9512]

@@ClaireWill71uk _Hardly surprising!_

[@davidspear9790]

Isn't it funny how buying a TVL will make everything alright, where as up to that point you have been suspected of breaking the law?

[@danisaac]

Just ignore all letters and if visited just say “No thanks” and close the door nothing more and your be fine. Do not engage in any conversation/debate do not let them in! Your be fine.

[@billywhizz1656]

if rearly want to waste money for bbc save and send them all back returned to sender

[@jonwyatt3694]

Sound advice there Dan. 👍

[@yngndrw.]

You may wish to inform them that you are withdrawing the implied right of access for them and their company before you close the door on them.

[@vasili1207]

@@yngndrw. that's not true and don't work.. that was a false narrative

[@danisaac]

@@yngndrw. you could but it’s unnecessary once they learn your not playing their game they will soon give up and move onto easier prey

[@simonvazquez6751]

Listening to this educated chap explain the myriad of corner cases on topic clearly shows the law is a complete mess in this area and not fit for purpose in the modern age.

[@juliesmith6301]

Thank you for your simple explanation on this from a law point of view ❤ it’s nice to see a lawyer who has got the uk people’s back on these sort of matters 👍🏻

[@AppleOranges12]

ChilliJonCarne's channel talks exclusively about TV license and how to deal with inspection visits. Well worth checking out and learning from him.

[@GoosePlays20]

Agreed

[@magnus9701]

aye he is good info

[@GoosePlays20]

@Trixie K if you have seen his latest videos, he actually mentions you don’t have to tell them

[@TelThePower]

@Trixie K I prefer to ring the TV licence agent's personally, I don't get any letter's apart from the 2 yearly letter to see if I'm still happy having no licence.. I've never had a knock at the door, obviously that doesn't mean I won't at some point in the next few years.. If you decide to go down the route of ignoring them, that may cause more hassle, more letters & more chance of a visit.. But do whatever you find best 😊

[@TelThePower]

@Trixie K I do agree that a person shouldn't have to declare, but it is just an automated call which takes about 5mins, don't speak to anyone.. I guess I can't be doing with all the threatening letter's lol... I'm looking forward to my 1st house visit though if that ever may arise? 🤣 Thanks for the reply, all the best being licence free 🙂🙂

[@kenmayfield3739]

Solution: don’t invite ANYONE you don’t know into your home!!!! Simple!!!!

[@moirared04]

In Australia we don't pay I think this is outrageous.

[@Ethaniel_UK]

Canada is the same

[@RogerBrowne]

In Australia, you do pay. The ABC is funded by taxation (i.e. money that's taken from you). It's just that it's not a separate itemised charge.

[@traceystewart4257]

Thank you for this, I feel vindicated. I cancelled my BBCTV licence in 2020, had my aerial disconnected and have been very vigilant since. I only watch streams (apart form BBCiPlayer of course), and KZbin. Before I cancelled my licence I checked the Communications Act 2003 just to confirm what I could watch. I have not looked back, considering the amount of crap churned out by the BBC these days. It is unfortunate that I can’t watch livestreams on KZbin but it’s not that inconvenient to watch the replay. I feel vindicated because I have pointed this out in several comment sections to people (in livestream replays) and the usual answer (sometimes rude) is ‘Well it’s KZbin - its not the BBC’. I’ve given up doing that now - if you don’t want to pay the licence fee, you need to take responsibility and check out what you can legally watch in the UK. The sooner the BBC has its charter removed - the better.

[@RogueWraith909]

Yup. I really enjoy watching Le Mans 24 hour, but I always wait for the youtube video release several dayss later instead of live watching it. It's annoying but at least I won't get done by the butt munchers at Crapita/BBC.

[@miniganguly6072]

@@RogueWraith909 if they don’t have a warrant to search your house there’s no way for them to know…

[@notloki3140]

You can watch live streams on KZbin, Twitch etc, as long as they do not also stream via conventional means that require the maintenance of aerial or radio networks. Your Internet connection is provided to you via a private company that has to maintain these networks. The whole point of this tax is to provide BBC with funds outside of adverts etc, to enable the production of original content and have one source of news that won't hide behind a paywall and should technically be impartial (which they failed completely and could be the basis of a massive lawsuit if people agree to do so), but most importantly maintain the network, be it cable, radio or now digital, to stream said content, regardless of who provides it and if they gain any additional funds from this tax (see other TV Stations). That is the spirit of this tax and it's a noble one (if the internet goes offline for example and you need access to information). However, since BBC is politically too far to the left, invests the money into productions some of us at least don't care about, over pays for some of their employes and spends a ton on fancy studio equipment, and went as far as to hire a private company that pays their agents per customer "persuaded" this tax needs to be eliminate. And by the looks of it, it will in 2025.

[@timpullen4941]

We don't know what crap is on BBC because we don't watch any.

[@nickhackett5930]

You say in your message ACT,it is not lawfull untill you make it so, we live under COMMON LAW not ACTS

[@beardyface8492]

Many years ago I upset one of the goons, this was before KZbin etc. were even things. Came to my house after I'd ignored loads of letters. Got told no TV here, I allowed him to look since the catch you out traps didn't exist then, no TV was the end of it. He got very grumpy that I'd not responded to the letters to tell them that. My response was, I don't need a licence, I can't be forced to buy a stamp to tell you so, none of the letters had a postage paid return envelope & I'm not obliged to spend any money to not have a TV. He was clearly very grumpy & frustrated when he left.

[@hannahjames3180]

And then you pulled your TV out from the cupboard and started watching it again?

[@beardyface8492]

@@hannahjames3180 Would have been difficult, given I didn't ever own one when I lived at that address.

[@leonskum.5682]

Dunno why he got grumpy. Surely you're keeping the gimp in a job.

[@hannahjames3180]

@@beardyface8492 I remember once TV licence bloke showed up at someone's house. Asked if they had a TV licence, "No. I don't need one as I don't have a TV." Then the EastEnders theme tune could be heard coming from the living room!

[@robg521]

When I 1st got my own property in the 1980’s I couldn’t afford to buy a TV and got bombarded by the threatening letters, I eventually sent one of their letters back [without a stamp so that they would have to pay] saying I don’t understand why you are complaining that I haven’t responded to your letters when I have no legal requirement so to do, and signed it ‘the legal occupier’ Over 35years on and I have never corresponded with them since, I have never had a TV licence, all of their letters go in the shredder, if they knock on the doors I don’t talk just close the door. I have never had a problem because I don’t give then any legal purchase what so ever.

[@alaninsley5005]

Completely draconian situation of a 'forced' subscription service. How can anyone be prosecuted for watching TV broadcasts, or choosing not to?? Utterly ridiculous!

[@PeaceAndLove303]

The UK get what they vote for in general elections. What Party will ever say they will abolish it when the time comes. I'm sure any party who would see the TV tax abolished would win the General Election in record numbers.

[@ewanbaxter9199]

The TV licence is Extortion - Forcing you to pay for something you do not want.

[@DonJuanDM]

This TVL claim is the same as saying I am always a suspect of any crime because I have a car and knives in my kitchen.

[@Antrobrebb]

Never, never, let them in...ever.

[@Azurantine81]

Not answering the door or just saying no thank you and closing the door when you realise it is them has always worked just fine for me.

[@alexscott1257]

Ah saying "no thank you" and closing a door. It's so English! And it can be used for so many unwanted door people in all kinds of situations!

[@praisebewibble]

They need your name for a prosecution. Say nothing and politely close the door. I have seen these courts in action. The judge never believes the householder, try and remember that.

[@jwsuicides8095]

That's what I was wondering...I also thought they needed your name to prosecute you.

[@alanb1935]

I informed TVL nine months ago my elderly mother was in a Care Home and the property was empty. But this has not deterred them from sending threatening letters, some in bold red type and also "You are under Investigation" They never give up and what a waste of resources.

[@aaronhurst4379]

It's a disgrace how they go after the elderly like that, scum bags

[@ewanbaxter9199]

The TVL has limitless amounts of money to send threatening letters out, I have had hundreds, they mean nothing - they just go in the bin.

[@user-tb7dt5uk1x]

OMG and I thought I lived in a democracy

[@pabo-qv3nx]

You've been fooled like the rest who think the uk is not a dictatorship.

[@DavidJarvis01]

You avoid all of this by closing the door in their face.

[@cliffordbuttle4529]

Bang😊😊😊

[@alexnelson9512]

@@cliffordbuttle4529 ... In the face!

[@geoffjackson6970]

Oh my god, you don't even open the bloody door...just pretend to yourself that the door is well and truly welded shut 🙄

[@duncanwalker1347]

If you refuse to interact with these people even to the point of verifying your name there is very little they can do and YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ANSWER ANY OF THEIR QUESTIONS !

[@MrJohnnyseven]

Dont even bother to watch TV....ive been 15 years without

[@keithpp1]

I receive every couple of weeks threats from TV license thugs. I don't have a TV. I bin their threats. I do not respond. No way would I let them in.

[@barukkazhad8998]

Dont abuse the system ,dont watch live TV, dont let them in ,dont talk to them ..😏

[@halley4032]

Bottom line, if they come calling, ask who they are, politely. When they announce "TV Licensing" etc ... respond with "No thankyou" and close the door. End of!

[@malango255]

Not paid my TV license in over 20 years. Last few times they knocked. They asked if I had a TV I said no. They said can I come in? I said no and closed the door. Bye BBC!

[@garrithsmith799]

I never realised that there are people hired to trespass and peep through other peoples windows to find evidence for a tv. What if i was naked and they look through? makes you want to keep your curtains shut!

[@thalesofmiletus2966]

Tell the TV license salesmen, “No thanks” and shut the door.

[@iamrocketray]

They don't deserve the NO THANKS! just slam the door in their faces!

[@Saor_Alba]

I gave my TV away to a charity shop in 2014 and I have never missed it, even though I informed the TV licencing people numerous times that I did not possess a TV I still received scores of what only can be described as threatening letters over a period of 6 years. I eventually got tired of the constant barrage of threatening letters and went to see a lawyer about what they could do about what I classified as harassment. I live in Scotland and we have our own separate legal system, however, TV licencing is devolved to the UK Government. My lawyer sent them a letter instructing them to cease and desist their harassment and I have not received a letter from them in over 2 years.

[@flungpupanda367]

When a tv license doorstep seller turned up i simply asked him for proof of business insurance on the car he parked outside my house it was very funny how he left fast than he came

[@alisonmary1443]

I'm in Scotland and TV licence would send folks out doing a "survey" very pushy about coming into do it after I said we do it at the door, silly me let the woman in. I don't have TV, I don't even buy newspapers I watch KZbin and sometimes I'll do Netflix, anyway this was a cunning move for BBC to gain entry into my home, I absolutely hate their strategies, crossing boundaries into our personal private space.

[@johndillinger8424]

Six years legally licence free yesterday, wouldn't watch tv even if it was free.

[@tommo9757]

This raises a good point regarding who has right of entry into your house/ onto your property. That might be worth covering in another video.

[@serenityinside1]

Agreed. It is grimly fascinating who CAN enter your property without warrant 😯

[@aires69uk]

Especially electricity companies.

[@tomalex4806]

Nobody has free right of entry to your home unless a warrant is issued by a court

[@tommo9757]

@@tomalex4806 I'm sure that HM C&E used to be able to, but I don't know if that's still the case.

[@stevedawg9588]

TV goons have NO right of entry, they like to call themselves "enforcement"...they are NOT...they are merely salesmen.

[@danielcooke9974]

I've gone 13 years without watching t.v don't miss it one bit

[@Mishima505]

I’ve always wondered how it could be proved in court that you were watching iPlayer without a license. It would mean that they would have to admit that they had hacked into your wi-fi signal which would also be illegal under the Interception of telecommunications act.

[@ianlaccohee7180]

If you get a knock from a licensing goon, simply ignore them. If you don’t realise, & you open the door simply say, no thank you, have a great day, then close the door. Shred any mail that you receive. Job done.

[@tony_w839]

There was a comment in a TV licence video where the commenter reported that they allowed a Licence inspector in, I believe they were asked if they knew how to use the equipment to receive TV, when they replied yes, that was used as evidence to successully prosecute them. As BlackBelt said do not let them in, and do not engage in converstion with them.

[@aleopardstail]

do not even confirm your name, without a warrant they have exactly the same legal power as any other door to door salesman - you can also ask them to leave your property, easier to ignore them, if they persist you can right and withdraw the implied right of access they claim, and you don't even have to give your name - they are then technically trespassing if they come back good luck getting anywhere with a prosecution for it though

[@Galerak1]

@@aleopardstail Don't revoke their implied right of access, it just gives them something to use against you to gain a warrant. I agree with you that you shouldn't even give them your name though, after all, what do they need a name for? It's the property that's covered by a licence, not the person living there. They only want your name because they can't drag your house to the courtroom

[@johnwalerzak6786]

They are not inspectors they are only scummy salesmen 😫👎

[@Galerak1]

@Trixie K I know, that's why I wrote "Don't revoke their implied right of access, it just gives them something to use against you"

[@michaelsingleton5173]

@Trixie K yes but the BBC has a massive reach, it's quite likely that their word carries more weight than yours.

[@user-wp6eh1gi4z]

I never open the door to anyone, not even when my relatives visit 🤣🤣🤣

[@georgiahaig6381]

😂

[@davidjacobs828]

The bottom line is NEVER OPEN THE DOOR TO ANYONE FROM TV LICENCING. NEVER INTERRACT WITH THEM THROUGH THE DOOR . NEVER GIVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT TOUR IDENTITY . SAY NOTHING .

[@TheOriginalDaveJ]

The quicker they make BBC a subscription service the better.

[@billywhizz1656]

i think they will go the tax every one like with germany win win for bbc and swamp rats in Parliament

[@lolzlolz102]

I agree. Trouble is they would finally see people are not willing to pay and the subscriptions they do get wouldn't cover their costs. Therefore I believe they would look at other funding models such as putting it on everyone's phone or broadband bill so everyone will end up paying!

[@davideyres955]

Yep. They know that people won’t want to pay for it so they won’t. They will then have a funding shortfall and they will then lose such talent as Gary Lineker and Zoe Ball. Shame. Best bet is to make add free subscription and total free but with ads. Pays you money and take your choice, but then they’d have to run it like a business earth than a jolly.

[@RoseScotland-ot9bx]

I let the TV licence people in, as I have nothing to hide. The annoying thing is I took the day off, stayed in all day as they said they were coming, then they came the following day. When challenged as they left the man laughed and said " oh yeah we do that deliberately sometimes". I lost a days pay!

[@patrickdaly2121]

Who in their right mind would invite a tv inspector into their house to prove you’re not using their services. Would these same people or would the head of BBC invite you into their house to prove that they are not the ones who stole your missing plant pot? No of course they wouldn’t, they’d tell you to clear off!

[@DevilbyMoonlight]

Its about time it was a subscription service

[@cosmicaudio4589]

Dont answer the door if you know its the TV licencing! Never ever give them your name or admit that you are the householder. Tell them to go away, ignore any threats. Write to them and remove their implied right of access! And letter sent to you put them back in the post box with 'no contract' written on it!

[@sgcrook]

You're under no obligation to co-operate with these people. So don't. Close the door on them.

[@TwoBassed]

There was a major bonus of not having a TV licence during the plandemic - It meant I wasn’t allowed to watch any of the governments live broadcasts, not even hours/days later as it still showed the ‘live’ banner. Saved me many months of mental anguish not being ‘allowed’ to watch Boris and his minions telling me how I should live whilst they and all the other politicians totally ignored their own ‘mandates’!

[@Retepnilap]

If they were to find history of live TV usage on a laptop, or mobile phone, how could they prove it hadn't been watched in another premise that in fact was licensed?

[@otterplays8156]

@trixiek942 This!!! BBB was talking out his arse with this video. "You'd have to show them your device" pffft. Yes just help the authorities to prosecute you - BlackBeltBellend

[@davidripley2916]

GPS info. It's on most machines anyway.

[@iamrocketray]

@@otterplays8156 You don't have to show them anything!! You don't even have to speak to them! FFS you are not even obliged to answer the door.

[@hannahjames3180]

@@davidripley2916 True. However, Laptops are usually used on an ISP - easier to track it down. Phones can use data - still I suppose they will look into ownership of device and anyone else who had access to it. The onus will no doubt be on the ISP bill payer to prove otherwise.

[@pstanyer1]

If they turn up with a warrant you can just walk out they then can't interview you or report you for an offence. Come back 4 hours later.

[@zoltanzorgo]

It is hard to get my head around this. There was something similar in my country as well, but they had realized ages ago, that the technology and people's habits taken a huge turn, and this approach of financing any kind of tv sation makes no sense anymore. It looks, that the UK refuses to follow the trends, which is quite weird...

[@keithbessant]

our country is a bit backward in lots of ways, despite leading the world many years ago.😂

[@michaelsingleton5173]

Yeah most of us wouldn't give a toss if the BBC just do what itv do and goes commercial but the BBC do everything in their power (other than quality programming) to stay going everything in their M.O is tricking you into believing you must have one.

[@Slash1066]

So many people are cancelling their TV licence, me included, sooner or later they will have to go to a paid streaming service

[@RogueWraith909]

@@Slash1066 Or be lazy and slap the bill onto everyone as a tax added to utility or internet bills (which I hope would result in some backlash).

[@AP-nj1mr]

Abolish the TV tax(licence). It is ridiculous that people have to pay to watch telly even if they don't want to watch rubbish BBC programmes .

[@paulwilson2651]

I haven't paid the TV tax since 1984 I get hundreds of letters which go right to my shredder and I never open my door to them or engage in any conversations with these salesmen.

[@EastyyBlogspot]

I have a TV licence as I love hunting tvs

[@rockfan3299]

Surely a search warrant doesn't give them permission to go through your phone! I wouldn't open my phone for them, a warrant wouldn't be asking me to do that! The only way to deal with them is not to talk to them and close your door.

[@Polecat54941]

Against your human rights to expect you to help in your own prosecution.

[@jack1d1XB]

They would need legal agreement from the phone manufacturer as they hold the legal right to any original software installed on the phone, as to any you install they would still need permission from the app creator to, and let's be clear, access their software data!

[@otterplays8156]

Bingo. A warrant for entry into a property does not give them a right to access private devices. Not even the police can force you to open it up, even if they threaten to take it as evidence, refuse, get a lawyer to write up a nice right to claim letter and take Capita and the police to the cleaners. BBB talks a load of shit at times and sometimes seems to advise his audience in a non-argumentitive way. When in fact being stubborn and standing your ground is the BEST way.

[@MikeEves]

A warrant doesn't mean they can enter your home. The warrant requires consent.

[@itsagoal182]

@Trixie K thanks, got any links to support this? Ta.

[@Timothyshannon-fz4jx]

Good advise BBB, word of the late queen mother 'DON'T LET THEM IN'

[@elvisburgerking8675]

the best way to avoid paying for a tv license is not to watch the shite they make at all. do not look for loopholes to avoid paying simply refuse to watch any of it your well being will benefit as a result I did in 2002, dvds are 10-50p each now in charity shops, all the entertainment you could ever want, and no adverts and no politicians.

[@GMMilambar]

I've mentioned this story on Chilli's channels comments section. But I will regale it here too. I once had a TVL Inspector tell me that I had a TV Aerial, therefore he had a legal right to enter the property to check for a TV. Whereupon not finding a TV, he noted I had a computer, and a bunch of BBC shows on DVD (official ones bought from HMV), he told he that because they were made by the BBC, I still needed a licence to watch them, and I had to 'sign here'. Naturally I refused to sign anything. this was going back to the mid 2000's.

[@jack1d1XB]

This is all referencing to [ Live ] transmissions, not pre recorded, so your good, 😃👍

[@iamrocketray]

The law was changed in the mid 90's I believe, at that time if you had a TV you had to have a license. It was changed because of TV's going Digital. BUT the GOON lied to you, even then they couldn't enter your property without your permission, He conned you M8.

[@seanmurray8051]

What a joker that capita person was. Properly stretching it there 🤣

[@trevormillar1576]

Capital tells its goons to tell people they need a licence for a radio or music centre.

[@Sadie595]

​​@@trevormillar1576 my answer to that would be, it's just tv license not a radio license and the clue is in the title, therefore listening to radio is free, which it is! These goons are delusional 😂

[@hippopotamus86]

Worth mentioning that they have a policy to never force entry. If you don't open the door even if they have a warrant and police present, they will go away and try again another time.

[@MikeEves]

And it's nothing to do with the police.

[@derrenlambert2279]

Dont let them in, dont converse with them, tell them to get off your property..✌❤

[@robmo6505]

How can it be legal to force you to fund the BBC when you only watch other channels?

[@dakjones]

The best advice to follow is to simply close your door once the person identifies themselves as being from the BBC. I have legally cancelled my TV licence but I get monthly letters threatening prosecution, all addressed to the Legal Occupier.

[@jack1d1XB]

Bin them, don't reply, simple, 😃👍

[@Beatlefan67]

If it's to the 'Legal Occupier' does that count? Surely it should be by name?

[@davidripley2916]

Never had a telly to start with. Mental illness dosen't help what with tellys being a Bread n Circus machine and propaganda influencer rolled into one, plus the threat of fines or jail just screams NO !

[@iamrocketray]

@@jack1d1XB OR put "return to sender" or "legal occupier not known at this address" and pop them into a post box. they then have to pay the return postage. I saved up 20 Threat O Grams and did the above, they have stopped sending me letters now BUT I am expecting a Goon to knock soon.

[@iamrocketray]

@@Beatlefan67 They know my name because I once filled out the no license needed form, when it came up for renewal i decided not to, After all I don't inform the police that I don't need a shotgun license. Anyway everafter it's addressed to the LEGAL OCCUPIER.

[@ep1929]

Don't even answer the door to them - the beauty of a video doorbell!

[@J0nny61]

I lived TV licence free for several years, ignored there persistent letters and was never at home when they might have called round. I did have a TV but used it as a monitor for my PC. The TV licencing people, Capita, prey on the weak and vulnerable, mainly older people that don't have broadband and still watch live TV. Disgraceful in 2023 and it needs to stop.

[@eabr2881]

Once again, guilty until proven innocent.

[@jimbowlyn]

I had the TV goons at my door three times in one afternoon the first time I said no thank you the second time I just close the door but the third time I close the door he kicked my door and swore at me I just walked away laughing my head off but surely he had no right to kick my door and swear at me

[@numptynoonoos]

Black belt B, tv licensing is by capita, digital parking permits are capita, council tax in which they are trying to tie to tv license is ran by capita, utilities have capita tied to them and so is parking eye. Oooh what mess. Doctors surgeries and NHS, fire services, police and courts.

[@ronnieince4568]

It us very simple -the law if England for centuries is that "the home of everyman is his castle absent a search warrant "So say nothing but No Thanks and shut the door .

[@numptynoonoos]

@@ronnieince4568 it's not as simple as shutting the door it's not about tv but the parking permits. Crooked to the core.

[@numptynoonoos]

I've always hated monopoly.

[@iamrocketray]

Capita is one of the most evil, money grabbing, companies in the UK and most of their contracts are Governmental.

[@jwsuicides8095]

Capita has also been a large part of the dodgy and not fit for purpose disability assessment procedures.

[@tarbert363]

Compelling someone to show your search history on whatever device you have wold not be under the scope of a search warrant specific to a physical address.

[@spudhead169]

A workaround for the TV apps is to select a different country (like Zimbabwe or something) during the initial installation process. When you do that, most if not all of the apps will not be present.

[@Mr_Ashley]

You legend, Samsung TVs are a nightmare for pre installed apps that can’t be deleted, I’ve had to left mine none set up to avoid it for now and just do everything off a fire stick.

[@keithbessant]

That was great,, thank you for this advice. I thought I was safe by not having a TV and not using the other devices to watch live TV. But now I can see it's much safer not to let them in at all.

[@S.Trades]

I had "the knock" today. I insisted the guy came in and checked all around the flat to determine there absolutely was no tv in the property. Poor guy! 😅

[@StarlasAiko]

Being forced to pay the licence even if you never watch any BBC at all, only watch ITV or some non-UK channel, is like being forced to pay Tescos every time you shop at Waitrose. If I am not a customer/consumer of the BBC, the BBC has no claim to my money.

[@nathanu6759]

I always get the letters, I never respond. I dont even watch live tv. I’m not giving them details. N I’m defo not letting them in to check.

[@StooFras-TheFiresofHell.]

Aye fair comment but unfortunately there are far too many gullible people in the UK, people that don't stand up to their bully boy tactics, people that actually invite them in, these people have got to understand these characters that knock on your door asking if you have a TV license have no powers of arrest and certainly no right of entry into your home,shut the door on them, simples !!!

[@vasili1207]

@@StooFras-TheFiresofHell. all they got is a list of house who have a license and those that don't... just tell them to jog the fuck on

[@nathanu6759]

@@StooFras-TheFiresofHell. aye, I hardly even let my landlord onto the property 🤣. At the end of the day. It’s where you live. No one has right of access to your home! It’s the same with the British Gas people who’ve been forcing entry recently. It shows the state of where our country is atm. Where people can be taken advantage of by the government and big business. The tv licence is a scam! You’re paying for the BBC despite if you use it or not!

[@jack161721]

I found a brilliant way to avoid the trap. Don't pay your licence. Don't answer the door. Even when they come with a so called warrant. Just don't open the door.

[@SS3paranormal]

@Trixie K I thought posting it through the door could still be done and it's effective?

[@howey935]

Just ignore them all together. If you do answer the door just say no thank you and close the door. Don't tell them your name confirm your address just close the door in their face.

[@seakayak4425]

This video leads you to think that a TV licence inspector with a warrant can access your phone or laptop, they most certainly cannot do this at all

[@MaxwelloftheClocktower]

Never let them into my property. I could easily watch catch up tv but I still do not because why would I? I'm quite happy watching KZbin and Amazon Prime

[@grannytakesatrip1128]

As always an excellent educational video from BBB. As he said, he's here for all of us to understand the law, and long may it continue BBB.

[@Thurgosh_OG]

Shame he doesn't cover Scottish Law too, as this kind of TVL scam is much harder for them North of the border.

[@UranusMcVitieFish-yd7oq]

Whether you need a TV licence or not the way to avoid paying for one is to simply ignore the BBC if and when they write or come knocking. A method that's served me well for 30 years.

[@Yorkshiremadmick]

I’ve had no TV licence since 2010 and stopped watching BBC and iplayer. No live tv either. Had the heavy handed letters and the mob finally come around But I told them to show me the search warrant. No warrant no entry.

[@mrobo9037]

Really great information, I thought I was clued up to TV TAX rules, never thought about a mobile phone, Excellent advice!

[@CptCactus-11-20-6]

There was an article, the other day, from the BBC that mentioned something about them making the BBC available on streaming services! I didn't get a chance to read it, unfortunately. But I'm now thinking that this could, possibly, be an underhand attempt to force people into thinking that they have to have a licence!

[@jack1d1XB]

As I've said already, they'd be obliged legally to inform you prior to use of any said streaming service that you require a license otherwise they would be prosecutable under penalty of law by coercion!

[@brolohalflemming7042]

There have been BBC videos on KZbin, often appearing in the recommended videos feed. KZbin isn't iPlayer, so isn't covered by the specific requirements to be licensed if you use or watch iPlayer. I also discovered that if you report every BBC video as 'Spam or Misleading', they soon stop appearing in your recommendations. You could also just hit 'do not recommend' option, but where is the fun in that?

[@iamrocketray]

The BBC IPlayer is the only streaming service you need a TV license for!