All intact cars removed from car carrier Fremantle Highway in the Eemshaven

[@aro4491]

The insurer will likely write off all the cars that were onboard, even those that appear to be unharmed by the fire. This happened with undamaged vehicles removed from the capsized MV Tricolor several years ago. The ship itself is also a likely write-off. A very expensive fire.

[@yslee1401]

How do we know that these residual vehicles are unharmed by the fire when they are loaded in secrecy and covered with a blue tarpaulin?

[@ivorvickerman8061]

We don't. That's one of the problems.

[@mikebreen2890]

@@ivorvickerman8061 Why is it a problem?

[@ivorvickerman8061]

@mikebreen2890 Well, why does anyone hide anything? Because they want everyone to see it? Or because they don't? Why are the Dutch hiding something? You'd have to ask them. If this mess is NOT the result of an EV fire, don't you think they'd be publicising it, heavily, given the huge investments in EV's, & the fact that sales are very much either flatlineing or dropping, despite governmental pressures. Its very much in the public interest to know if, or not, their highly expensive motors are going up in smoke, possibly taking their house with it, maybe worse. Secrecy, although prevalent in the shipping & insurance industries, actually serves no-one. Even them, in the end.

[@escapetheratracenow9883]

Everyone knows when they order a new car it turns up in a skip covered by a tarpaulin....

[@ivorvickerman8061]

@@escapetheratracenow9883 Yup! & smells heavily of smoke.

[@TheBuckspygmy]

I wonder if cross channel ferries will ban electric cars. (As it is they don't like rechargeable power tools.)

[@IS-L]

Not forgetting the channel tunnel. I use this quite a lot and the thought of being under the sea with a train on fire is frightening.

[@philtucker1224]

If any vehicle is deemed a risk it will not be allowed to cross. This has always been the case.

[@mikebreen2890]

Did an electric car cause this fire, apart from media speculation do you have any evidence of this?

[@escapetheratracenow9883]

@@mikebreen2890 The crew reported the EV as the probable cause and the media did their job of reporting it. I suppose it wasn't an EV that caught fire at Sydney airport and torched 15 conventional cars parked around it, or the similar conflagration at Frankfurt? No one has had an EV burn down their home in Arizona or countless other locations, and fire brigades are not having to put out fires from EV bikes and scooters? No ships have sunk from lithium battery fires, nor jet aircraft brought down by them either...oh wait

[@mikebreen2890]

@@escapetheratracenow9883 The reports that an EV caused the fire on that ship were speculation from day one which went on to be reported as fact. There has been precisely zero evidence that an EV caused this fire Yes there have been other EV fires, there have also been thousands more ICE fires that the media do not report and ICE catch fire at a rate many times higher than EV's. How about reporting the fact that EV's are so much less likely to catch fire than ICE and a media storm every time that happens? No, thought not. Just as nobody gave a shit about unethical mining of cobalt when it was used in multiple appliances in their hands, homes and in the refining of oil, suddenly it's a huge problem because, you know, EV!

[@chrissharp5073]

There has been a lot of electric vehicles that have caught fire in the UK recently so if it's determined that the cause of this fire was from a vehicle battery then the future for this type of propulsion system is looking a bit iffy.

[@glynluff2595]

I am glad I am not the health and safety officer on this operation. Imagine having to certify all was clear and then having to live with it!

[@bigbob1699]

Will they rename the ship the Match Box ?

[@wayneheigl5549]

no they are going to paint her and call her the S.S. ZIP \\O// lighter , smoke them if you got them.

[@stratman9449]

or..."the last straw".....

[@jamesessam3834]

Why was the rear ramp not used to empty the FH?

[@kolsen6330]

No power from ship or the hoisting equipment was damaged and the ramp is unsafe to operate.

[@bricktop7803]

The other reason is its probably packed with burn out cars.

[@Sibbe2560]

Waarom zijn alle containers voorzien van een zeiltje, is dit uit respect voor de overleden auto ?

[@UnflatteringRat]

Ik denk dat dat te maken heeft met het vervoeren na de brand zodat er denk ik geen wrakstukken loskomen voor het vervoeren en slepen naar de haven zodat het niet in het water terecht kon komen . En voor de veiligheid zodat er niet losse stukken op de werkers terecht kan komen . Dat is mijn vermoeden . Zou ook voor totaal andere reden kunnen zijn misschien ook voor ramptoeristen die met een drone de boven kant wilde filmen .

[@PhilippSe]

Um die giftigen Dämpfe einzuschließen und zu verhindern das Sauerstoff rankommt. So verhindert man, das ein E Auto wieder anfängt zu brennen.

[@JimWhitaker]

@@PhilippSe No it isn't.

[@weerwolfproductions]

@@PhilippSe those batteries that still had a charge were drained, so none of those have a fire hazard from any battery pack. It's purely to make sure no pollutants enter the environment, either by flushing off the car in a rain, or being blown out during transort. All skips and trailers have to be covered for transport on public roads in The Netherlands. And due to the damage and soot etc. it makes more sense to use a tarp instead of a net.

[@soc1455]

sure, cars and a burnt out ship, but did anyone else notice the massive scale of the wind turbines in the back? holy moly ...

[@hansscholte5472]

Turbines are waiting to be shipped to their offshore location

[@weerwolfproductions]

There's 10 windparks north of Eemshaven. Eemshaven has been a staging point for the building of off-shore windmill parks for over a decade. It also sees several exotic jack-up platforms and mobile crane ships regularly. Saipem-7000 has been there twice in the past 5 years. I went to see it the second time it was very impressive.

[@hansscholte5472]

@@weerwolfproductions and its just the beginning; coming years at least some 40 Gw of capacity will be developed in the Dutch and German part of the Northsea. Eemshaven -as a hub- will play a role there.

[@stratman9449]

another useless dino of technologie.....

[@weerwolfproductions]

@@stratman9449 What's 'dino' about wind farms on sea, and what's the alternative you would like to see?

[@weerwolfproductions]

It looks like a couple of hundred that were able to be driven off (the ones within the orange shipping container corral) and then about 30 that were hoisted off in skips under tarps because they were too badly damaged. Unless they have already moved 1000's of cars off-site, i don't see how 3700 cars were removed. Your drone shot clearly shows what has been removed. That's not thousands by a long a shot.

[@svdleer]

About 1000 were moved from the ship, in total 3700 were loaded on the ship initially.

[@Franky46Boy]

I agree with you. These numbers don't make sense.

[@raygale4198]

@@svdleer An approximation of the coraled cars I came up with about 1000 as well, no where near the claimed number.

[@SootHead]

They are not going to remove all the cars. Those on the upper decks are literally melted to the deck and the decks are warped from the heat. It's been stated over and over by the authorities that they were only going to remove the intact cars (if possible and it was ) and those damaged ones that could be removed safely. The rest are going to be scrapped with the ship.

[@ronbrock6153]

It clearly states that 2800 cars that were burned remain on the ship.

[@aurktman1106]

A lot less cars burned than I originally expected. I would say that's actually a good thing about the design of the ship.

[@weerwolfproductions]

Nothing to do with the design, more with the loading. Deck 5 was left empty upon leaving the previous port. It acted as a firebreak in the ship. These are the cars mostly from decks 1 - 4, and i think 30 - odd cars (the ones in the skips with the tarps over them) from a place that saw some fire flash-over. Either deck 4 or a few cars parked on deck 5 because they didn't fit on decks 1 - 4.

[@aurktman1106]

@@weerwolfproductions any idea when the burnt vehicles will be removed? Or will those just be part of the scrapping process?

[@WhoStoleMyAlias]

@@aurktman1106 Safely assume that all the salvaged cars will be scrapped as well. Also note that this vid purposely left out the extraction of the burning car that was mentioned in the text and instead shows how they handled cars that started burning in the carwash after that initial white Merc, so the public wouldn't be able to see it. The enclosure shows approximately 1000 cars, with some 20+ cars separated from the rest by an additional row of containers. There's no real need to guess which of these cars are full electric and which run on dino breath.

[@weerwolfproductions]

@@aurktman1106 Deck 6 and up were too unstable to remove vehicles from, and the heat was so intense the frames and engines fused to the decks. The decks have all buckled and bent down, some below standing height. There's a set of 4 pictures that show this. Boskalis said after the first inspection of the ship that removing those wrecks can't be done in the Eemshaven. As they are essentiall scrap and not intact cars and not a single part of those cars is salvagable, i think Dutch Customs will let them go wherever the ship goes from here. Ship has to be out of port by 14 October as port authorities have no space for her after that date. There has only been speculation about where she might go from here. There is a scrapping facility in Northern Denmark that might take on the scrapping. I don't think she is in any shape to be towed halfway around the world to Singapore or South Korea to be scrapped. EU regulation says she's only allowed to go to a scrapping facility that observes workers' health and environmental protection when scrapping.

[@weerwolfproductions]

@@WhoStoleMyAlias there was no burning car extracted from the ship. The badly damaged one that was hoisted out was an EV with a damaged battery. To prevent it from catching fire during transport, they put it in a skip and filled it with salt water to drain the remaining charge in the battery. Since that gives off a poisonous cloud there were four people with full body protection gear breathing tank air that pulled a tarp over it. The other skips (the 30 odd next to the corrall with the driveable cars) all contain badly damaged vehicles. There was at least one more skip where they put seawater into after it was moved off the ship, but the tarp stayed over it. There is no way to tell if these were all EV's or were ICE cars that were tarped over to prevent environmental damage from any parts they might lose during transport. There were no cars hoisted off the ship on fire or that burst into flames after being hoisted off the ship. That is misinformation from the people opposed to EV's.

[@theginginradioplayers8316]

Why all the secrecy?

[@andyd5492]

They are going to sell those vehicles to unsuspecting buyers.

[@johnstuartsmith]

If it was really secret we wouldn't even know it happened...

[@topcatandgang]

are they gonna have a fire sale?

[@johnanthonycolley3803]

" all cars " Including the ones WELDED to the internal decks ?

[@RobA2020]

I find it incredible that so many cars on the lower floors have survived the fire. It must have been very, very hot in there.

[@zanycam]

There was an entire empty deck in between, so it was only good luck. If there was not this empty deck, the fremantle highway would now laying on the ground of the north sea.

[@raygale4198]

The lower deck cars may not have been burnt but they would be salt soaked after the firewater dripped down onto them on the hot humid decks.

[@weerwolfproductions]

@@raygale4198 they only sprayed seawater on the sides of the ship trying to keep the temperature down. They did not spray the upper deck or bridge and crew accommodation because they were afraid the added water was going to increase the chances of the ship capseizing and they did not want her to sink. Any water penetrating that low into the ship can't have been much.

[@chuckboyle8456]

A reasonable viewer may prudently surmise that the facts stated in this video are not fully and truthfully represented. Most of the burned vehicles will live again in Pakistan…once they are recovered at the scrap yard!

[@wilfriedlauf8881]

E im

[@ivorvickerman8061]

Well, I'd estimate that less than a thousand (probably much less) were taken off the vessel. Presuming that the rest are still on board (regardless of the statements by salvage crews) & will have to be removed if the vessel is scrapped, or not. This leaves a real mess for salvage crews in (probably) Pakistan/India/Bangladesh. I anticipate many injuries.

[@JimWhitaker]

@@ivorvickerman8061 And how do you know this?

[@ivorvickerman8061]

@JimWhitaker Well, deduct 1000 from 3700, & you get the approximate number of wrecked vehicles on the ship. How do we know this? Well, its an estimation since the Dutch salvors are not giving out any details, which is quite suspicious in itself. Why should they? Because the safety or otherwise of cars, be they EV's or IC's, is of legitimate interest to most of us. Governments & the car companies have a lot of skin in this game. Answer your question?

[@philtucker1224]

We also like to salvage as many as possible in the U.K. Do you have a similar culture in Pakistan?

[@garycusack9247]

so what happens to the ship will it be repaired or scrapped??

[@weerwolfproductions]

The only thing intact is it's lower hull and the engine room. All the control runs to and from any other machinery and the engine room is lost, the movable decks inside have buckled and warped or have fallen down already, the upper deck hull frames are warped, the deck is warped, and the entire crew accomodation and bridge have burned out. She came in under a bad (12 degree) list and in the past few weeks she developed the same list but less again. I doubt she could make it safely anywhere that could outfit her. I think (my personal opinion of what I've seen of the damage) is that the upper six decks can only be removed by cutting through the decks from above, leaving her upper hull dangerously unsupported, so only cutting her down to deck 5 and then building her back up would be safe. And thats just about building a new ship, considering all the control runs would need to be replaced to all the machinery. It will probably be a write-off with maybe the engine being granted a second life in a different ship if she has like 20+ years to go.

[@christophergrimes12]

Can the Fremantle Highway be repaired or scarped

[@AliusScitmelius]

Actually only upper part of the ship is burnt and ship engines and parts below water line are mainly undamaged. So probably upper decks will be removed and rebuild. She is build only ten years ago.

[@williamstone4334]

Could electric cars be shipped with the battery in a discharged state?

[@Peter-pv8xx]

I guess theyll need to build special fireproof decks just for electric vehicles where in case of fire it can be completely sealed off maybe special chemicals can smother the flames, I've heard that those batteries will burn even if there is no oxygen supply, the best solution is to not ship them at all but as long as the powers that be keep pushing them on us then unfortunately we're stuck with them.

[@mikedx2706]

The wrecked/burned cars being unloaded in the half shipping containers covered with a tarp are EVs. The container is filled with water to stop the battery packs from having a thermal runaway event and catching on fire again!

[@WANDERER0070]

BS water doesnt stop ev fire 😂

[@JimWhitaker]

@@WANDERER0070 But it does if applied in the way described.

[@weerwolfproductions]

@@WANDERER0070 Salt water drains the remaining charge in the battery pack (if the battery pack is damaged) and when it's drained, a battery back can't catch fire. As there literally is no energy left to get it going. In The Netherlands, if you want to transport cargo in a skip or trailer, the skip or trailer has to be completely covered with a tarp in order to prevent stuff from flying or dripping off.

[@drscopeify]

Japan makes incredible ships, sad for the loss maybe they can salvage some of it?

[@rolandthethompsongunner64]

So even though an EV caught fire again during removal they still don’t know what caused the original fire ? 🤔

[@crxdelsolsir]

Yup, playing dumb to close down the relationship and the truth. Censorship as they push for pro China EV mandated switch over.

[@ingocernohorsky]

Any official news Update about the source of the fire?

[@FutureSystem738]

No.

[@brucemitchell5637]

" electric cars are good for the environment!" LOL! 😂

[@julianreverse]

🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂ not a single e-car burned you dckhd

[@paulmcmullan8498]

It takes on average 7 years before one becomes carbon neutral, so much for being good for the planet... but of course, that's an inconvenient truth..

[@FutureSystem738]

ICE cars are good for the environment! LOL :-) And oil will never run out, right? What’s your alternative? Hydrogen? (ROFLMAO)

[@remakeit2628]

@@paulmcmullan8498 An ICEv never becomes carbon neutral.

[@brucemitchell5637]

@FutureSystem738 and the best part of electric cars is the forced child labour making the batteries. NOTHING says environmentally friendly like forced child labour, right little fella? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@davidcarr894]

It's a miracle that it was towed into port.

[@1BigBen]

well all except the ones that are infused to the deck

[@velenceigabor1418]

It is mind boggling that humanity still finds ok to use these type of batteries in cars.

[@Thomas-ul3uy]

Seems that EVs batteries don't like salt air. Why all the secrecy and covering the EVs up when they are removed?

[@johnp162]

Estimated cost so far???$$$$

[@AliusScitmelius]

Only the 3700 cars are at least $100 million.

[@johnpatrick1588]

Another KZbin channel calls the boat "Dutch Oven".

[@adrianguggisberg3656]

Yeah, that's because they are stupid. It's neither dutch nor a boat.

[@firesurfer]

3:53. Bulk storage or the ''I don't know what to do with this stuff, so put it over there''.

[@josbroersma7419]

Met je gasmasker een container afdekken, wat wordt hier verder nog meer afgedekt?

[@skierbek72]

Czy ocalał choć jeden samochod Porsche lub Mercedes ? Chętnie kupię taki lekko podwędzony .

[@gerbre1]

How can an electric car be responsible for the fire, if all electric cars were parked in the lower decks which didn't catch fire?

[@stewgreenuk]

EVs were parked on other decks too apparently

[@peterk2455]

The EV's obviously walked on water and were in no way responsible for a fire that broke out amongst vehicles in a packed RORO vessel. We all know they are perfectly safe like all lithium battery appliances and will save the environment, cure cancer, the common cold, pattern boldness, bring about world peace and eliminate stupidity.

[@andrewgraham7659]

And in come to tourists to see a burned out shell of a ship. Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@timw6928]

Whats to become of the ship? Is she beyond repair? The heat would of surely damaged the steels integrity

[@simonallen6427]

I presume that each of the Drops pallets contains HAZMAT and(or) an EV?

[@weerwolfproductions]

stuff they don't want to come in contact with the environment. Anything from loose parts to hazardous / cancinogenic material. It also has to be safe for the people transporting it to wherever it needs to go.

[@stratman9449]

where does it "need" to go....??@@weerwolfproductions

[@4693-v1m]

A lot of propaganda going on here...

[@DrJRaven]

Like what?

[@elpresidente1000]

White seems to be a very famous colour these days. By the way: At least they saved a couple of BMW M cars, especially M3 CS 🙂

[@stratman9449]

are you hoping for a "cheap" purchase soon.....haha....

[@elpresidente1000]

@stratman9449 Haha, I guess they will be shipped again and finally being delivered to their waiting customers, after all the inspections and paper work have been done.

[@MrRonan3]

They look like M2s to me,

[@AliusScitmelius]

White is popular color in warm countries like Egypt where this ship was going.

[@pclayton5063]

I worked at a BMW dealership 15 years ago when most of the new cars on the lot were damaged in a hailstorm. The dealership hired a paintless dent removal company to fix all the cars that were damaged, which they did, and sold them at a discount. They couldn't sell them as new. BMW also sells buy-back vehicles much the same way with additional warranties to cover possible future issues. They'll probably so much the same thing with the heat and smoke damaged cars off the ship. I remember all those cars were snapped up pretty quickly.

[@davezul4396]

Looks like it got a bit toasty aboard the Dutch Oven.

[@iancampbell6925]

It's amazing that the majority of people seem to suffer cognitive dissonance about the potential effects of an electrical vehicle fire and the toxic fumes when on a passenger ferry.

[@bricktop7803]

Is that the same cognitive dissonance people have when an ICE vehicle goes on fire and produces toxic fumes on a passenger ferry? That is the best you can come up with? Any fire on a sea going vessel is highly dangerous.

[@iancampbell6925]

EV battery fire cannot be put out by any known fire suppressants and can burn even underwater as seen in a recent KZbin clip, even when the fire is out it can reignite and has to be kept under surveillance for at least 48 hrs and not touched as there is a risk of electrocution.@@bricktop7803

[@dadsvespa]

I'd buy one of the oven baked cars!

[@garyscott1272]

And the government and the owners of the burnt EV’s won’t even tell the truth as to what caused the fire. They will blame it on an ICE vehicle. And if those 15-20 odd covered up dump bins are all that is burnt, that’s bullshit. Look at the amount of fire damage to the top 1/2 the ship, should be a lot more toasted vehicles than that. Oh that’s right, they have taken some of them away already.

[@user-ll4lf5go1m]

Everyone is entitled to their own OPINIONS.

[@stratman9449]

the german car manufacturers (and german media) are keeping VERY schtumm about this whole "incident".....i bet they all want to "bury" this whole episode.....

[@anthonymiles8377]

Nope there are approx 2700 burnt out cars still onboard. They will be scrapped with the ship. There's no way to access these cars on the upper decks and pointless to try as there's very little left.

[@martinv.352]

But it seems that 500 EV cars were inside the ship and 500 EV cars were removed intact from the ship. So there are two possibities left: An ICE car or the ship itself caused the fire. I did not hear anything about hybrid cars which cause fire more often than ICE cars. Pure electric cars cause fire 60 times less than ICE cars.

[@waynej747]

@@martinv.352The whole “500 EV’s onboard and all were recovered” thing is a lie. When that was said, not a single vehicle (ICE or EV) had been unloaded. Early photos from inside the ship also clearly showed the burnt out remains of a vehicle that had the distinctive front end shape of a Porsche Taycan. There was even an EV that caught fire after they unloaded it from the ship. Furthermore the 500 does not take into account all of the hybrid and plug-in hybrid vehicles also onboard.

[@dadsvespa]

There should be a master fire suppression switch somewhere on every cargo ship that sucks in ocean water and floods all areas on fire. It amazes me that with all our tech, this still happens.

[@MichaelBeeny]

Yes, better to sink than burn.

[@raykewin3608]

Good vid.

[@johnniwa308]

Fire sale coming soon at a car lot near you.

[@jackwilbur9419]

Yeh I want one of those cars

[@leonardgilbreath9004]

And this is what they want us too have in the future I don't think so at least not yet till they solve ways to make them more successful

[@bricktop7803]

They already have. New batteries will not be prone to catching fire, - different chemistry. But we have ZERO choice, car manufacturers are on course to have ZERO ICE cars made and ALL will be EV's and its 7 years away.

[@pytaniedodcf9230]

*I want to see the look of the losers, whom dealers will "pawn these cars off", when they realize what they have bought...*

[@weerwolfproductions]

None of the these cars will end up at dealers. The consensus is that the carmanufacturers will return them to their plants in order to be scrapped.

[@kriscalverley2131]

So what brand of evs were on ship to start yhe fires?from what country?don't ship electric vehicles,stay in own country

[@ingvarsimons7548]

Battery cars should be banned due to lack of safety and harmful to environment reasons!

[@paularmstrong4546]

Surely those cars will be scraped due to smoke damage.

[@2148aa]

The market will decide.

[@MichaelBeeny]

Can always sell them to smokers.