I wish JYP gave their idols more vocal training because so many of them have a lot of potential but their technique isn’t great
@leemingo44274 жыл бұрын
Jyp gave them a "half air half sound" kind of thing. Which is bad
@melodycao53764 жыл бұрын
I agree, JYP himself is not really knowledgeable on vocal technique so I don't see him applying it any time soon. There seems to be a much larger focus on diction and a pleasant tone than singing with technique.
@mdorrdar36564 жыл бұрын
i think maybe because koreans love these tone of voice or pitch thats why mostly all companies go with this choice even yg makes rose sings nasaly and make her voice more high pitched and cute or even produce 48 winners mostly have high piched voice idk its just a korean thing they seem like just love high pitched voice
@_Red_Panda_4 жыл бұрын
I agree, one of the reasons why I can't completely stan Twice's music, is because they all have potential to have some very decent/amazing vocals, but don't have away to access it. I guess it's because JYP is tried to fit their voices with their music style/concept, which was mainly cutesy.
@beta9104 жыл бұрын
키미 Wasn’t Lia also an SM trainee before becoming a JYP before?
@talkingtothatsun49244 жыл бұрын
Jeongyeon has the perfect voice for old jyp girl groups songs like wonder girls, Miss a and 15&, she really shines when she covers them. I’d love to know what you think of the duo 15& they’re both great vocalists
@rubenjoe74884 жыл бұрын
True! When they do covers Jeongyeon gets so many lines! 😖
@ravisith87104 жыл бұрын
Jeongyeon suits songs that are not too cute. Her voice is very mature and I like it.
@dorothy57844 жыл бұрын
i agree but i dont think that jyp will give them concept/s like that because twice became known for cute concept.
@JeongsBiss4 жыл бұрын
Imagine Jimin and Jeongyeon in one song? Queens! 😍
@Faeriiexx4 жыл бұрын
@@JeongsBiss Don't forget Yerin! Jimin is amazing but Yerin's belting is so good
@Annasuke164 жыл бұрын
I’m really happy about Chaeyoung! The top 3 was probably no surprise for any once but outside of that Chaeyoung did really great! People tend to over see her singing abilities, maybe because she always says she want to rap, but that girl is good at everything! Ok enough fangirling haha thanks for the video
@BuffyunaTV4 жыл бұрын
also because she dodges the mic a lot and is not confident in singing.
@Fer-fy8dx4 жыл бұрын
Chaeyoung is such a queen!
@notsrilanka4 жыл бұрын
honestly the only imperfection she has is being a jb stan
@Annasuke164 жыл бұрын
@@notsrilanka as in GOT7 Jaebeom?
@notsrilanka4 жыл бұрын
@@Annasuke16 omg no got7 jb is a king,,, i meant the yummy singer
@lilpink61924 жыл бұрын
I've been a hard Jeongyeon bias for super long and everything you said was painfully accurate. She is really under-appreciated because her voice just doesn't suit their concept, but damn the pre-debut Jeongyeon in the survival show... that was when she really shined. She was one of the most popular members, (pre-debut survival show era) and dropped to one of the less popular members today. I really feel like the girl-crush concept and cutting her hair short was really forced onto her and that may have deterred a lot of potential fans. Also not to mention her voice. Her voice is like warm honey. It's so smooth and stable, it's honestly quite sad JYP doesn't have the best vocal trainers because Twice has so much potential.
@beta9104 жыл бұрын
You Ning Lee I’m not a once,but I thought she liked her hair short rather than long? I mean I might be wrong but I thought there was an article about how she didn’t like to have long hair. I do agree with you though she’s very under appreciated and deserves more lines
@lilpink61924 жыл бұрын
@@beta910 she had this "phone interview" (i dont know what its called sorry) where she expressed to her past-self, saying along the lines of "WHEN JYP TOLD YOU TO CUT YOUR HAIR SHORT... DONT DO IT..." along with her telling herself not to play the saxophone HAHA (during survival show era)
@funkystyle72494 жыл бұрын
@@beta910 That was in 2019, she never long hair beyond the shoulders before(except for a shoot) so for Fancy she wanted to try(since 2018 she expressed wanting it but she told management would not allow) but in came 2019 she was allowed and when she tried it, she found it difficult to manage, so she concluded she prefers the shorter hair, I am guessing the shoulder-chin length kind of short . Backstory: So during trainee period before Sixteen, she had hair touching her shoulder mid-length (which was her actual length) the management asked her to cut it, so for the show she cut it and she continued cutting it to the pixie hair for debut. 2015-17 she had the really short hair/pixie cut/boy cut because the management wanted Girl Crush, they gave her more tomboyish style clothes and styling like how Fx amber dresses. I don't think she liked that full heartedly. Starting from 2018 the management has eased the stronghold they have on her image, now they cancelled tomboyish/girlcrush but looks like they are trying Mature Formal look, I hate to say this but its like styling for females in their 30's.
@beta9104 жыл бұрын
funkystyle That makes sense,I think in general JYPE(and tbh most idol entertainment companies) have a strict hold on their idols for their first 3 years of debut.I have noticed that and it’s like a trial period for the group or idol.It is also the period that groups get worked to the bone the hardest. It’s really bad if you ask me because I think gradual build is better for the idol’s health,but I think they are using the first 3 years because that’s when the idols are kind of like “hot off the press” (sorry I sidetracked from what you were saying,but basically I feel bad for her and I hope they have a less strict hold on her)
@simransucharita54344 жыл бұрын
Jeongyeon did said that she want to try long hair back and she tried it in fancy. But , she also said in Twicelights Seoul concert that , she is going cut her hair short. There are many articles also published for her straight forward statement to Once in that concert , said she wants to that's why. She is comfortable with short hair rather than long hair. Not everyone likes to have long hair.
@dizdude8974 жыл бұрын
This is why Dahyun need to *Sing more* while momo need to *Rap more*
@JuliaTDI234 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@lovechoerrymotion50864 жыл бұрын
That would be literally perfect because I feel like Dahyun shines more when she sings and Momo when she raps
@HoNiAn4 жыл бұрын
But is actually the main dancer, and also giving her the rapping linea wouldn’t be break the balance?
@dizdude8974 жыл бұрын
@@HoNiAn nope not at all,momo is already a sub rapper in the group and jyp said that she was firstly to be a lead rapper so that means her rap is good or at least decent and giving her rap line didnt break the balance Momo also is quite good rapper next to chae and dahyun so i wouldnt mad if she raps more cause a lot of groups main dancers usually apart of the rapper and only some are vocalist
@yoonsmile82714 жыл бұрын
The thing is Dahyun’s voice doesn’t suit twice high-pitched sound, she’s more stable than momo but idk if she would adapt well to twice’s style
@harini60924 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your analysis on tzuyu, so many people online say "tZuYu cAn'T sInG sHe'S jUsT a PrEtTy FaCe" and I'm honestly sick of it. I always thought people were over reacting and that her singing was actually quite decent, I'm glad some others agree 😊
@twiceexo27494 жыл бұрын
i agree! and i think it's becuase a lot are biased when they rank the members.
@xiuolo81164 жыл бұрын
Agree!
@simplyvibing99584 жыл бұрын
tzuyu is very talented. not just her face! 💞
@felmargego25344 жыл бұрын
As a tzuyu stan, it really makes my blood boil when haters say that. Makes me want to slam their faces on the floor.
@selenacabello52784 жыл бұрын
To be honest.. She just to be bad during and before debut, but in my opinion, she improved the most out of everyone in twice . I really like how her voice sounds nowadays
@taeslilclown98014 жыл бұрын
Jihyo and Jeongyeon have so much potential to become powerhouse vocalists and work their way towards becoming two of the third gen’s strongest vocalists but JYP isn’t capable of helping them improve to that point the way he did with Sunye and Yeeun and it’s really unfortunate
@glamourzen90404 жыл бұрын
this 100%. Jihyo and Jeongyeon are legitimate powerhouse vocalists but one has no lines and the other has bad technique. If only they were trained more we would have a duo to be wreckoned with.
@taeslilclown98014 жыл бұрын
GlamourZen90 I wouldn’t say Jihyo has bad technique because she’s actually above average if we’re not comparing her to Solar, Wendy and Yuju. But it’s no question that Jeongyeon is technically better, but somehow receives less lines than the sub vocalists
@newbiechu70244 жыл бұрын
They could've been the next Tae and Jess.
@taeslilclown98014 жыл бұрын
newbie CHU tbh no. that’s a bit more incomparable considering how Jessica’s has an extremely light tone. Sunye’s was more balanced like Jihyo; it wasn’t too light but still had enough power. Taeyeon, Yeeun and Jeongyeon could be compared tho, as they’re all powerhouses
@taeslilclown98014 жыл бұрын
@@dorothy5784 me too. People don’t realize how limiting the half air half sound technique actually is
@zoemyers85344 жыл бұрын
I wish they didnt make momo sing like that she sounded sm better during sixteen :(
@kemii_io7064 жыл бұрын
Lol
@donniesalcedo63663 жыл бұрын
@@kemii_io706 why lol?
@saint94683 жыл бұрын
From what I know its literally because they can not make a song for the voice of one member the higher pitched her voice gets the more nasally it Gets
@JL92524 жыл бұрын
If Jungyeon were to do Apink songs, she will shine perhaps.
@heysahar4 жыл бұрын
ughhh I loved everything you said about jeongyeon and chaeyoung it’s such a shame their vocals are so underrated
@myragingwhormoans4 жыл бұрын
all of your jeongyeon opinions are 200 IQ 😔
@tadokoropilled4 жыл бұрын
*228292833 iq
@PinkMelatonin4 жыл бұрын
@@tadokoropilled 99999999999999999999999999 IQ*
@missyverah84443 жыл бұрын
@@PinkMelatonin yes
@dorothy57844 жыл бұрын
iam the one who think that jeongyeon it is not fitted on twice? she is most suitable in Sm than jyp(sorry for my English iam still learning)
@daisylovesnoodles21664 жыл бұрын
I agree she has that standard classic sm beauty/elegance
@witchofbabylon50214 жыл бұрын
she would probably get more lines in SM 🤭
@watchsaikikrightnow64394 жыл бұрын
Witch Of Babylon she’s really good now, but imagine how much better her technique would be in SM lmao
@staph80224 жыл бұрын
a 6 member red velvet HAHA
@wanda35544 жыл бұрын
Eyyy agree
@pogi44544 жыл бұрын
In Twice Seize the Light ep 2, Momo acknowledges her vocal ability and that it is not really good. She said that she was scared to go to vocal classes. Tbh, the amount of lines she gets in Twice is fair for her because she must feel anxious if she gets too many vocal lines.
@ryanquince45494 жыл бұрын
JYP needs to realize that she just isn’t up to par with the other 8 members vocally and switch her and Dahyun’s positions. Dahyun needs to be a sub-rapper and vocalist and Momo a lead rapper and sub-vocalist
@szz60984 жыл бұрын
@@ryanquince4549 yess we need a momo rapper comeback
@marichuramirez53044 жыл бұрын
@@ryanquince4549 Yes or momo be lead rapper with dahyun, well either way, I think momo is better off rapping
@funkystyle72494 жыл бұрын
Why is she scared to go to vocal classes?
@pogi44544 жыл бұрын
@@funkystyle7249 because she said she isn't a good singer, so going to classes made her afraid. You can watch the episode to learn more
@deobijungs4 жыл бұрын
no jam bros = amazing vocals that people tend to ignore
@meryl36774 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@harustar43284 жыл бұрын
This is fact
@chaeyoungslovie3 жыл бұрын
No Jam Bros are just underrated in general. They are called the weakest dancers of Twice, don’t get any recognition for their vocals, and Chaeyoung doesn’t any appreciation for her outstanding rap skills. They deserve better ❤️
Your rating is probably the best Iv'e seen so far! I think a ranking of gfriend would be cool next if you're up to do more. I think Mina and Chaeyoung's voices are almost on par, but Mina has a slightly weaker tone, and I agree with where you put them. I love Mina and can't wait to hear her voice next comeback.
@bipbapp4 жыл бұрын
Lune Seishin Chaeyoung is far a better singer than Mina.
@luneseishin114 жыл бұрын
@@bipbapp By your username, I can tell you're a huge fan of Chae, and I get that, but it really doesn't mean you have to disregard Mina's vocals. She's a good vocalist, and I think you're coming from a place of heavy bias.
@bipbapp4 жыл бұрын
Lune Seishin I’m rly not? I love Mina but ur the one who sounds biased here. I’m a singer my self and I’m tired of Mina stans saying that Mina is a better singer than chae bc "they like her sweet voice". Sweet voice doesn’t = good vocalist. Yes Mina can sing but if where talking about technique and vocal range Chaeyoung is better. I’m not saying this to say Mina isn’t good I’m just saying the truth. Like in love foolish,Chaeyoung’s melody project,21:29 etc you can hear that chae have different vocal ranges in all of them and better technique than most of the members. Again I’m not saying this to sound rude.
@luneseishin114 жыл бұрын
@@bipbapp Like I said in my original comment, I agree for the most part, and I never said Mina is a better vocalist than Chaeyoung. But I still think that the gap between Mina and Chae, while definitely noticeable, isn't really as astronomical as people say it is. In terms of bias, I shouldn't act like I don't have any, but we both do so let's just leave it at that. Also I know you weren't trying to be rude but the original reply did kinda come off that way. Sorry if I come off as rude as well...
@chaeyoungslovie3 жыл бұрын
@@bipbapp Agreed!
@Catz1a4 жыл бұрын
Jihyo is "average" for a main vocalist because main vocalists are all spectacular singers. Being an average main vocalist means youre still an exceptional singer, its nit picking. The difference between being an S tier and A tier basically. She's definitely not among the weakest main vocals but there are certainly many stronger ones out there too
@funkystyle72494 жыл бұрын
TRUTH!
@AB-rl8iz3 жыл бұрын
Jihyo is my bias and I know she’ll grow into an ever better vocalist.. but yeah, I’d agree with you!
@luv_theluv43113 жыл бұрын
An average main vocalist is still good. They’d be in the A/A+ tier, while most great main vocalist are SS tier. Then you got IU, Chen, and Taeyeon in “How is a human this talented” tier
@Catz1a3 жыл бұрын
@@luv_theluv4311 Ok I really love IU but she is the level of an average main vocal A tier (going by ur definition which I do agree with). She can do a lot, but nothing I haven't seen any other amazing singer do. She's awesome and underrated vocally a lot but not near Chen or Taeyeon overall
@eternal62573 жыл бұрын
@@luv_theluv4311 Im sorry but IU is more of an average but like one of the bests in the average
@alainer06114 жыл бұрын
I don’t like when people put Jeongyeon above Jihyo just because they like the sound of her voice more. It’s completely biased and it’s obvious Jihyo is one of the strongest JYP vocalists, and you shouldn’t make her any lower than the place she deserves just because you prefer voices like Jeongyeons over stronger voices like Jihyos. I’m glad none of your videos are biased. You always come with the facts.
@JuliaTDI234 жыл бұрын
Yeah Jeongyeon's vocals should be more recognized, but Jihyo is clearly better.
@alainer06114 жыл бұрын
Romina Reyes I know she isn’t the best vocalist though. But in her generation, in her company, she is one of the stronger vocalists, and has her main vocalist spot for a reason. My point is that you can say Jihyo isn’t your favorite vocalist or that you like another vocalists voice more, but you can’t be biased and say “I put jeongyeon higher because she has a soothing voice that I like more”, which is something many people do.
@JuliaTDI234 жыл бұрын
@Romina Reyes Jihyo can be an average singer even above average (but at the moment, average) when it comes to the whole kpop, however Jihyo is one of the strongest vocalists of the 3rd generation and remains stronger than Jeongyeon and the rest of the group.
@jacksonmerrill24994 жыл бұрын
Nayeon is better than jeongyeon in my opinion
@funkystyle72494 жыл бұрын
I don't think I have seen a video where Jeongyeon is above Jihyo??? Pretty sure 90% of videos are Nayeon vs Jihyo with Jihyo mostly no 1
@thekid14524 жыл бұрын
I've always thought jeongyeon was the second best
@kxvina3 жыл бұрын
Same!!
@chaeyoungslovie3 жыл бұрын
Yea honestly she's main vocalist material
@cutiebun61974 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who ranked Jeongyeon above Nayeon, Jeongyeon’s voice gives me chills every time I here it! 🤩😍
@JuliaTDI234 жыл бұрын
Not accusing you of anything, but it sounded a little rude
@cutiebun61974 жыл бұрын
Ninguém Okay, it’s my opinion and your entitled to yours.
@ladyj41194 жыл бұрын
@@JuliaTDI23 how did it sound rude though...
@iamaloser6663 жыл бұрын
@Firkus that’s a fair statement but Jeong I also think is better than Nayeon and I don’t really care for those two members but Jeong does have the better technique
@Samuel_5363 жыл бұрын
tbh i think the reason put nayeon above jeongyeon is because we LITERALLY BARELY HEAR ANY LINES FROM JEONGYEONIE😭😭😭 so people can't really put her above nayeon because thsy havent heard enough of her voice. but i think this video really did jeongyeon justice
@meryl36774 жыл бұрын
I agree your points! Especially jeongyeon's
@meryl36774 жыл бұрын
Also she's the only one I think in the group who uses vibrato.
@fn24284 жыл бұрын
The only ranking I trust.
@ParkJimin-iu6fr4 жыл бұрын
JYP focuses on dance, SM focuses on vocals and YG focuses on raps
@sambradley82974 жыл бұрын
That's certainly one way to look at it. However I would argue the best dancer is in SM and the best rapper is in JYP. But I guess that's just my personal opion. As a focus, I'd say they're all fairly accurate.
@deadpooljennkins56414 жыл бұрын
@@sambradley8297 agreed, imo SM have 3 of the top 10 dancers in the industry
@shuangshuangguo3 жыл бұрын
sm has Taemin, kai and Ten though, and Queen Boa and hyoyeon, u still think sm only focuses on vocals? sm have good dancers and vocalists, just lack of good rappers
@jeremy19093 жыл бұрын
@@sambradley8297 are you a dancer too?
@thuphung3673 жыл бұрын
@@shuangshuangguo they got nct which kinda has most rappers
@ashantiquashie60804 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you know this already but for MOST kpop companies, even if they are signing you to be a rapper all of the artists have to have at least some singing abilities to be signed. Alot of rappers are great singers because some of them initially wanted to be a vocalist but somebody in the group needs to be the rapper and it doesn't have to he the weakest singer but just rather the best rapper. Chaeyoung, joohoney, chanyeol are examples of excellent singers but they are also the best rappers of the group so they didn't get vocalist positions
@chaeyoungslovie3 жыл бұрын
Agree. Also Chaeyoung wanted to be a rapper, she’s always had a lot of passion in becoming a rapper. She’s been writing almost all her lyrics for her rap verse and she is self taught.
@molly02174 жыл бұрын
My jaw dropped when you put Sana that low I wasn’t expecting that at all!!!
@hyunaroseortaeyeonpleasema16014 жыл бұрын
Jimin’s side hoe Your pic and what you said perfect combo....I couldn’t help but laugh 😂
@junhui62684 жыл бұрын
Only True Onces know what Sana's capability in Vocals really. He just look at some videos of them and tend to judge only on what he sees. Esp when JYP is like pushing her to be more of vocalist nowadays
@peachtea98784 жыл бұрын
@@junhui6268 yes I agree with you!! JYP like to put Sana on chorus more.
@junhui62684 жыл бұрын
@@peachtea9878 i love to see her to sang the chorus this comeback.
@areyousureyouenteredyourna63674 жыл бұрын
your profile pic matches what you said
@Sajirah4 жыл бұрын
Jeongyeon is my favorite voice in Twice too. I just love the sound of her voice and it’s always some of my favorite parts of their songs.
@amsd12314 жыл бұрын
Being in JYP isn't doing any service to most of these girls any service in terms of developing their singing voice. JYP makes them sing in this half air voice style that he likes. He and his artist have said in numerous videos that that's the signature style of JYP artists and they are all trained to sing in that style. If that style doesn't fit you, well tough luck.
@felmargego25344 жыл бұрын
That sucks! He needs to cut that shit out!
@j.b.a6674 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is, most of the best vocalists in jyp ignored that shit lmao
@chaesbestfriend6083 жыл бұрын
Twice badly need vocal training. They have so much potential as a group and it's painful imagining that it'd go to waste. ESPECIALLY, Nayeon, Jeongyeon and Jihyo.
@user-nd5lg2rj2j4 жыл бұрын
you should do one for lovelyz! your vocal analyses are really well-thought out and it’d be interesting to see that with lovelyz. i’ve been thinking most of these but have never been able to put it into words haha
@sambradley82974 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of those guys I'll certainly check them out.
@migy50314 жыл бұрын
Your ranking was well-considered and well-articulated. 👍 I think Tzuyu has improved to the point that I would put her ahead of Mina but it's very close. I was a bit surprised you ranked JY above Nayeon but I think you justified your view. ✌🏼️
@witchofbabylon50214 жыл бұрын
Mig Y I think Mina is just overall a better singer than Tzuyu. Tzuyu seems to be off-key frequently.
@migy50314 жыл бұрын
Witch Of Babylon I haven't found Tzuyu to be pitchy but her projection is rather weak. Mina and Tzuyu have very different voices so I think it comes down to preference. ✌🏼️
@chaeyoungslovie3 жыл бұрын
Agreed Tzuyu has improved so much. If this were a few years ago I would've ranked her 7th and below Sana and Mina but she has proved us wrong. She grew so much and I think now she is capable of being a lead vocalist. She still has problems with her pitch accuracy, but that has improved as well.
@lionslights56484 жыл бұрын
jeongyeons voice gives me life tbh
@nikolaiquack85484 жыл бұрын
So, I'm not an expert on this topic like you are, but I have to disagree on one point you made about Mina's voice. I think she has one of the most recognizable voices in Twice. Her tone has an extreme softness to it, that I could pick out very early on when listening to Twice. Her's is also my favorite voice in this group along with Chaeyoung and Jeongyeon.
@sambradley82974 жыл бұрын
I think my opinion on mina's voice may change with time and repeated listens. But I just struggle to pick her voice out right now. Not fully sure why that is. But as I say, that could change. She is still a good singer though.
@nikolaiquack85484 жыл бұрын
@@sambradley8297 Sometimes it takes time. I had my problems with picking out Sana and Tzuyu at first. Still kind of do, actually.
@sambradley82974 жыл бұрын
@@nikolaiquack8548 if I'm honest alot of them sound super similar to me, I had to really intently listen to slight differences to make this ranking.
@aghegalaxy25124 жыл бұрын
oh, we have an intellectual here 😏
@josephine95974 жыл бұрын
Mina was one of the first voices I could recognize when I got into twice 🤔
@trishak154 жыл бұрын
Now imagine if NY, JY, and JH get the SM vocal training. I’ve been stanning Twice for 4 yrs now and their untapped vocal potential still frustrates me and that half-air half-sound technique JYP loves to use got to go.
@dorothy57844 жыл бұрын
jihyo and jeongyeon ignore that technique.. while nayeon used that technique a lot
@trishak154 жыл бұрын
@@dorothy5784 i have to disagree. Of the three, Jihyo has the most developed vocal technique. It's just that Nayeon is more consistently stable, but stability doesn't always mean better technique. Even as a Nayeon stan, I admit that she tends to get shouty and strains in some of her high notes but this is because producers have them sing in pitch that are beyond their comfortable range. Which will lead me back to my main argument of Twice's untapped potential because producers don't exactly utilize their voices in such a way that would show off each member's vocal colors.
@luvaria84294 жыл бұрын
Don't Jeongyeon and Jihyo ignore that though?
@me27643 жыл бұрын
*here's the time laps cuz this video is almost 30min long :D* 😎 Momo 0:53 Sana 3:11 Dahyun 5:41 Tzuyu 8:54 Mina 11:48 Chaeyoung 14:45 Nayeon 17:34 Jeongyeon 20:16 Jihyo 23:39 ;)😉
@Felix-fj4ib4 жыл бұрын
I hope more and more will give better voice placements, like a Momo rap and a jeongyeon lower key part.
@zee3e4 жыл бұрын
yep, nayeon usually gets alot of lines bc she has that kpop idol voice, and her voice suites the songs that twice sings. while jeongyeon is really underused bc she suites more mature tones. as much as we love her voice, jeongyeon stans have to realize that kpop is a business. as much as we wish that she could get more lines, twice isnt at that point where theyre letting go of their higher pitch. so: if she wasnt in twice, which group do you think she would fit the best in?
@Frankie-tf6xo4 жыл бұрын
Pleeeease do this with Loona, they’re 12 girls and A LOT of them are very very strong vocalists, around 7/12 of the members have the potential to be a main vocal and even Jinsoul the main rapper is able to do belt notes. They have very different voices and are very interesting and also unique.
@mightyobserver124 жыл бұрын
Jyp makes song on his range. He should consider range of women.
@chaeyoungslovie3 жыл бұрын
IKR, he’s so selfish and biased too.
@Nofacejeong4 жыл бұрын
about momo's "fake voice"... listen to her performances of the way you love me and swing baby in sixteen, you'll hear the voice is a lot less high and nasal
@haechkyu4 жыл бұрын
Can you also do IZ*ONE Ranking?
@adellianaura79104 жыл бұрын
GOD JIHYO MY LOVE!!!!
@base4yrface4 жыл бұрын
you know your group has great vocals when the main rapper is in the top 5
@chaeyoungslovie3 жыл бұрын
Yep and people still have the audacity to say Twice can't sing. Twice are more vocally talented than people think. Much better than a lot of girl groups if you ask me.
@chaeyoungsstrawberryfarm33274 жыл бұрын
JYP wants his artists singing/rapping voices to sound like their talking voice. People say that how she sang and rapped in SIXTEEN was her “real” but if you compare that voice technique and the one she uses now the one these days sound like her actual talking voice. Same with Sana💖
@mayamagination4 жыл бұрын
hard agree - although certain members are more stable singing live than others (which a lot of other rankings see as a basis for criticism), from an objective standpoint their vocals match your ranking 100%
@irisk60354 жыл бұрын
You should definitely check out Twice-“Ice cream” especially because Tzuyu is singing some lower notes there witch suit her voice so well!! Also i think that Ice cream is one of those songs that shows off Twice vocals very well so please listen to it
@alfonsodiazgtz2 ай бұрын
Jeongyeon is my favorite voice too. Is so relaxing to hear, so warm and beautiful
@leodmf13454 жыл бұрын
Please do red velvet vocal ranking
@sambradley82974 жыл бұрын
I certainly will
@batatagumball55494 жыл бұрын
[For new viewers to have interest, I’m not a fluent english speaker, so I apologize for any misunderstandings] Momo: “For me, Momo technically is the weakest in TWICE, I think she has potential.” Sana: “I decided in the end that Sana has the weakest voice of the three (8th, 7th and 6th), but her voice is still pretty decent.” Dahyun: “Twice’s lead rapper with a very underrated voice, most people sleep about her. I respectfully disagree.” Tzuyu: “Tzuyu has by far the most improved voice that I’ve heard. Mina: “I think 5th is the right place for her ability, she has really consistent voice.” Chaeyoung: “Chaeyoung’s voice is really interesting.” Nayeon: “For me, Nayeon has the perfect idol girl group singer voice. Jeongyeon: “So here’s my favorite voice in Twice. Jeongyeon is massively underappreciated, is given nowhere near enough lines by JYP. Her voice is awesome and should be appreciated much more.” Jihyo: “I think she has a really really solid voice and of the voices in Twice she has by far the strongest and the most to offer.”
@ronelrotas66164 жыл бұрын
Twice members voice wasted in the group. They actually has amazing vocal when they're in SIXTEEN(survival show).
@chaeyoungslovie3 жыл бұрын
Yea, most of their voices have changed a lot. Especially Momo and Chaeyoung, they had much deeper, stronger voices in Sixteen than right now.
@blackroseashe25153 жыл бұрын
Just for reference c: 1. Jihyo 2. Jeongyeon 3. Nayeon 4. Chaeyoung 5. Mina 6. Tzuyu 7. Dahyun 8. Sana 9. Momo
@mafialand86663 жыл бұрын
Jeongyeon is better than nayeon but nayeon is great vocal and a lot of people love her voice the most
@fennaspeelman66414 жыл бұрын
Great video!! Not kpop related, but would love it if you could give your opinion on Little Mix, since I have a hard time deciding who is the strongest one out of the 4 😅 thanks!!
@sambradley82974 жыл бұрын
Someone asked me this before, I'm not gonna lie I don't like little mix at all. So I won't do a video on them. But my opinion I think would be 4. Leigh Ann - a smooth, flexible if somewhat unremarkable voice, 3. Jessie - not the best technically, but a really unique smokey low mezzo soprano voice with a decent lower tone 2. Jade - classic higher sitting soprano with a strong mixed tone and piercing high notes, good agility 1. Perrie - power singer, most robust fully connected sound, strongest mix with the best fully connected range, also by far the most consistent instrument.
@isabella-ft6dq4 жыл бұрын
thank you for finally recognizing dahyun's voice
@ifu1384 жыл бұрын
tbh I feel like no matter what Jeongyeon will never get treated like Jihyo or Nayeon now just because it's been so cemented into Twice tradition... it's depressing.
@chaeyoungslovie3 жыл бұрын
Yea, it’s very sad. Jeongyeon is a criminally underrated vocalist, but I’d argue she’s one of the strongest lead vocalists in the generation. Out of the big 3 gg lead vocalists, I’d say Jeongyeon is the second best, right after Seulgi. Her technique is absolutely amazing and her tone is beautiful. I think if she went to a smaller company like P nation she would be able to show her talent more. Chaeyoung too, both Jeongyeon and Chaeyoung are madly underrated and should go to a smaller company where they have the freedom to show off their amazing talents
@Gam3Fr3ak_SFA_YT4 жыл бұрын
Yeah My Underrated Queen Jeongyeon at #2.
@chaeyoungslovie3 жыл бұрын
Yep she deserves it
@minhtrangnguyen64224 жыл бұрын
couldn't agree more on Jeongyeon
@JosieLaTorres4 жыл бұрын
I would love for you to hear KNK's Inseong sing. He has one of my absolute favorite voices in kpop. I believe he's actually doing musical theatre now
@sambradley82974 жыл бұрын
KNK are great. I will look at them vocally. More. I'm thinking of analysing main vocalists in more detail in individual videos after I've done these. Is that something you think people will be interested in??
@JosieLaTorres4 жыл бұрын
@@sambradley8297 oh yay!! KNK are one of my all time favorite groups in kpop! Very underrated. I think that would definitely be something people would be interested in. There's a lot more to these singers than just "sounding good" and I really appreciate that you're bring awareness to that to an audience that might be less educated musically. And for those of us with music backgrounds, this is really fun to hear opinions and compare thoughts. I look forward to it!
@seulgisjoy74394 жыл бұрын
Sana at 8th?! I'm quite surprised. I heard some fellow onces saying she should be lead Vocalist. And even tho I disagree with that, I didn't expect her to be that low.
@PeridotCentichannel3 жыл бұрын
Ok but the fact Dahyun got accepted in Big3 imagine if she was trained in SM 😳😳
@joelline43274 жыл бұрын
finally someone doesnt rank dahyun 2nd to last. props to you man
@danic72664 жыл бұрын
Thank u someone noticed jeongyeon
@laibaawan3494 жыл бұрын
I personally like nayeons tone the best tho I do find it to be pitchy and kinda piercing towards the end of her notes like idk how to explain but her voice always sounds like it’s cuz short or something idk it just doesn’t have a smooth finish? Idk I know nothing about vocals but it tends to bother me sometimes 😭
@melissam41214 жыл бұрын
i really like how you explained your ranking, and i can't tell you how much I agree with you on this list, especially on the constant debate about the 3 vocalists and 'who's better'. I can write essays about this. Jihyo is an extremely versatily singer who can reach a wide, wide range. She is a great vocalist. That being said, she is not 100% there in some areas, and I won't even fault her for it. She is already such a stable soprano, but JYP forces even higher notes out of her range that she just cannot reach. Hearing them on live stages is the most unsettling thing. For reference: watch any live performances of "I Want You Back". It amazes just how these gals (nayeon, jeongyeon, jihyo) are being trained. Other than these extremely high notes she definitely has so much soul to her voice and she is so versatile when singing within her range - watch her sing Melting live at the GDA awards. She is so. damn. good. It angers me that she *could be* one of the best singers in kpop right now but she just doesn't have the best technique and frequently sings in this high pitch that would probably ruin her ability in the future. JYP needs to wake up and correct this, he has a force in his hands that could be so much greater than already is. Jeongyeon doesn't have as wide a range as Jihyo, but she is a soprano? She's soprano imo. She is a clear, consistent singer with rich tone and good projection. She fits 'powerhouse' vocals as mentioned, uses the best technique out of the three from what I see, although when singing above her range like Jihyo she lacks control. Also has the potential to be a greater vocalist with better training, especially in terms of control. While we can argue that she fits the cute concept of Twice least she still aces what little material is given to her in each song. Hearing her live is one of the best things of Twice's live stages. I think she would really shine in other groups akin to Mamamoo or Red Velvet... or any other group to be honest, where a voice like hers is desired. Twice will probably always opt for higher, nasally pitch, which just isn't her - but if they were to try a more mature sound Jeongyeon would be the most effective vocalist for that. I also agree that she should be utilized more... it baffles me that a vocalist like her isn't. Other companies would have jumped at the chance for her abilities. Nayeon is interesting because she is a great vocalist, but not extraordinary or above the average. It's most probably how she was trained, but she is always singing evident straining in her voice, singing in such a high pitch and it is not a healthy method at all. Its great I suppose when you hear the recorded version, but when you hear her her live trying to hit these high notes, it just isn't it, and not pleasant. For reference: see any ballads that Twice sings live. She uses this half air/half sound technique that we all know of from the company and more often than not it just doesn't work, and the poor girl has to have playbacks to aid her lines on live performances. See: Melting, to Be As One. It is such a shame, because when you hear her sing her lines in songs in much lower notes she does sound able and great. Her ability to reach this high pitch is what makes her voice distinctive/different and no doubt the reason why JYP treasures her ability to do so, and probably why she sings the most in almost every track of their discography. However, she definitely has a unique color and tone, as does Sana - someone who has unique vocal abilities though way, way less spectacular nor as adequate as Nayeon's- but those two in my opinion have created this high pitched tone that is now trademark Twice sound.
@KYRofficial_1234 жыл бұрын
Wow
@atharv66243 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bro for such an good & unbiased ranking. and btw thank you for acknowledging Chaeyoung's, tzuyu's, & jeonyoung's vocals!
@supremo21554 жыл бұрын
Jeongyeon ♥️
@caitlynsult26853 жыл бұрын
❤️
@opyshuichiro88094 жыл бұрын
I've always biased a member in a Kpop Idol group by who I think is the best singer to my opinion. No wonder why Jihyo is up there.
@lanredaniel19954 жыл бұрын
Hi can you consider doing the ranking of rookies group like TXT
@alyssa-fw2gn4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion my favorite singer is Taehyun
@seolataelala3764 жыл бұрын
i have a hard time differentiating between their voices when listening to twices music except for the leads, jihyo & momo
@armydaystay76504 жыл бұрын
Please do SM groups as well ^^ Red Velvet, SNSD, SHINEe, TVXQ (when they were 5),... They're all very vocally talented groups!
@sambradley82974 жыл бұрын
I'll have a look at them for sure!!
@armydaystay76504 жыл бұрын
@@sambradley8297 thanks a lot!
@ivymagno894 жыл бұрын
My baby Chaeyoungie! 😊
@alexandererikreambillo68034 жыл бұрын
Please do iz*one too!!!!
@deven73824 жыл бұрын
Izone of course Yuri hahaha
@bearbearbearr4 жыл бұрын
Interested to hear your opinion about Apink!! They're into their 9th year this year :)
@staystay97194 жыл бұрын
Please do ateez ✨
@prestonrowe6394 жыл бұрын
I agree dahyun has a good voice however she lacks a lot of breath support and this can be seen by how airy her tone is. I feel sana should at least be higher than her
@sydturated7924 жыл бұрын
Jihyo’s technique is good as well
@lola88524 жыл бұрын
Could you please rank victon, a.c.e and pentagon. I think they have some great vocalist's Girlgroup's i recommend are everglow and mamamoo
@leemingo44274 жыл бұрын
Hi can you do Gfriend. I love your rankings you, speak facts. Btw gfriend are one of the strongest vocal groups so far. Im sure you will be amazed😊
@deez22134 жыл бұрын
I love watching your vocal rankings! You should definitely think about doing one for red velvet or loona!!
@izonexbae4 жыл бұрын
Jihyo is only average if you compre her to Solar and Wendy etc
@sambradley82974 жыл бұрын
Well I'll be looking at those guys kinda soon. So I shall see what I think of those.
@izonexbae4 жыл бұрын
Samuel Bradley some idols you could check out with Solar-Mamamoo Wendy-Red Velvet Wheein-Mamamoo Seunghee-Oh My Girl
@ooooo-4 жыл бұрын
izonexbae Yuju from Gfriend is carrying the 3rd gen on her back
@izonexbae4 жыл бұрын
Anubis _ hmm not anymore sadly
@ooooo-4 жыл бұрын
izonexbae lol wdym Red velvet debuted before Gfriend and everyone knows Gfriend have best main vocalist just cuz she’s underrated in her respective group doesn’t mean she’s not better then Wendy and Solar. Real vocalist know that The top 3 are 1.yuju 2.wendy 3.solar
@claraestupida4 жыл бұрын
For me: 1 Jihyo 2 Nayeon/Jeongyeon 3 Mina 4 Chaeyoung 5 Sana 6 Tzuyu 7 Dahyun 8 Momo
@Nicolesid13 жыл бұрын
For Mina and Momo, they make their fit the song instead of taking their voices into account. Twice is also one of those groups that were expected to have higher tones for many of their title tracks to fit the cute theme.
@Lily-gz3ip4 жыл бұрын
i really wanna slap JYPE
@rebeca41894 жыл бұрын
As for Tzuyu, please watch this video of her 5 years ago in their survival show sixteen! She did a cover of sway. Even though her vocal were worse, she was comfortable in that range. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3-qlXpvbJx8fNE Now for Momo, the whole “Fake voice” thing came from evidence that we got from that same survival show. Just like Tzuyu, she was more comfortable in the lower key that she sang in in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqKqemB3gdqZj68 *She’s the one wearing the long black trousers.
@chocobaka15454 жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to your IZ*ONE vocal ranking
@tiquismiwiz4 жыл бұрын
Jihyo voice is my favorite ❤️❤️❤️😍😍😍
@catiamaior52584 жыл бұрын
Jeongyeon has a great vocal technique and thats what makes her above Nayeon. Nayeon has the widest range of twice which is why she is able to hit those high notes more easier than the rest of the members but as we know range=/= great singer. To support your range you have to have a great technique! She has a good one but not better than Jijyo and Jeongyeon. Jeongyeon has a limited range and she isnt versatile as you said her voice is more for the jazz blues but she knows how to use her voice. (I dont like her tone its to much sugary if you know what I mean). Nayeon improved a lot in this comeback and she has potencial to be better than Jihyo and Jeong if she master a great technique!! Also Nayeon original voice is actually more deep than she shows in the songs bc of twice concept she has to make her voice fit that concept but if you see her voice in sixteen and twice debut its different.
@ladyj41194 жыл бұрын
tbh many people are really biased and theres many comments saying some next level things, most rankings are people saying their bias is better and they dont even have an explanation on why they placed the members like that
@chaeyoungslovie3 жыл бұрын
Yea many fans act like they are vocal coaches and know everything about singing. Then they base their ranking based on how stable or how wide the vocal range of the members are. This is the most accurate ranking I have ever seen, this is the ranking purely based on their skills and techniques
@imnabongyeon4 жыл бұрын
I Still Can't Choose Who Better Between 2yeon. Its Hard Actually. I'm Nayeon Biased but Yes Jeongyeon is better vocalist than Nayeon.But I Think Jeongyeon Is Lack On Stamina. I dont know. I'm not vocal coach. Huhu
@luvaria84293 жыл бұрын
stamina as in dancing while singing? then you may be thinking of an idol vocalist
@im_n27404 жыл бұрын
You should watch twice recent comeback, nayeon hit a fustained 3 second f5 with ease and power.
@탄마엘4 жыл бұрын
You should do a reaction of TWICE bsides! I’m curious...
@brooklynbuckner51694 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you do BTS! Because I feel like all of them are always kinda moved depending on the person, and as a trained vocalist I think your analysis would be amazing to see on them!
@renzzuuee36894 жыл бұрын
Agree with your ranking!!
@momoring12744 жыл бұрын
I actually think that Momo's sounds better in their Japanese songs as her nasalness (is that a word?) is less there. Like in their recent song Fanfare, she sounded better. Unless it is autotune that made her nasalness disappear, then ok lol
@woonawoona4 жыл бұрын
I play a drinking game with your vids. Everytime you say "ROBUST" I take a shot
@sambradley82974 жыл бұрын
What can I say, it's a nice easy word that comes to me alot while in full flow! Enjoy your hangover 😂
@facesncharcoal41524 жыл бұрын
It would super cool to see your opinion on red velvet
@travel_love_and_harmony3 жыл бұрын
I get clowned so much these days. In which world is Jeongyeon is a better vocal than nayeon? Yes, there both very good but there’s a reason why nayeon is 1st lead vocal and Jeongyeon is 2nd lead vocal. But okay it’s your opinion but I thought you were better....
@sambradley82973 жыл бұрын
Nayeon is the quintessential idol vocalist, good at signing with a more nasal placed higher sitting instrument, to me Jeongyeon is a more well rounded vocalist and in a group with lower keyed music, would really shine
@funkystyle72493 жыл бұрын
There is no 1st or 2nd Lead Vocal, there has never been any ranks within vocalists of the same level. They are both just Lead Vocals with Nayeon's voice used more in Twice. See most classically trained or knowledgeable person will place Jeongyeon higher than Nayeon and Kpop stans who rank them based on their own ear will rank Nayeon higher. Having wider vocal range and hitting high notes mean nothing to Trained Vocal experts if Technique is incorrect- thats Nayeon's high notes in a nutshell. Jeongyeon has the same basics of Nayeon but she doesn't excessively use her vocal cords for high notes using incorrect technique. She usually stays within her own capabilities. Jeongyeon is a more Technique based singer than Nayeon hence why you see this ranking. Here is a read that may enlighten you. www.reddit.com/r/kpopthoughts/comments/ifk2o6/twice_vocal_analysis_by_a_formally_trained/
@BirdHater3 жыл бұрын
jeongyeon has overall a more consistent technique, better pitch accuracy, she is less thin, less airiness issues, less nasality issues ( nayeon's nasality isn't bad but limits her projection ), better placements, better breath support, better overall support so yeah I guess he is right.
@JS-st8pp3 жыл бұрын
Jeon have better projection and sense of breath support thas why her notes sound more full compared to nayeon, jeon placement is better more forward the mask instead of the nose like nayeon. Jeon mix seems to be more developed as well and talking about stability jeon seems to be better also.
@BirdHater3 жыл бұрын
@@JS-st8pp These days I'm quite confused about the mix part lol
@Vlad.9894 жыл бұрын
His ranking: 9. Momo 8. Sana 7. Dahyun 6. Tzuyu 5. Mina 4. Chaeyoung 3. Nayeon 2. Jeongeon 1. Jihyo My ranking: 8. Momo 7. Dahyun 6. Sana 5. Tzuyu=Mina 4. Chaeyoung 3. Jeongyeon 2. Nayeon 1. Jihyo my fav voice in twice:Tzuyu
@rinikaur4334 жыл бұрын
I agree with uh 100%
@pixxiefoxs38824 жыл бұрын
i hope you could consider to do one with Z-Girls!!..I think its gonna be intresting .They really have a good vocal line. For you guys information,Z-Girls is a girl group trained under the korean company Zenith Media Contents (ZMC).They group currently has seven member from 7 different part of asian ..Basically ,Z-Girls member were carlyn,Mahiro,Bell,Joanne,Priyanka,Vanya and Queen..They have a really good vocal line esp Carlyn,Priyanka,Vanya and Mahiro Carlyn - Fillipina (main vocal,leader) Mahiro - Japan. (lead vocalist) Bell -Thailand. (vocalist) Joanne - Taiwan. (sub vocal,dancer) Priyanka - India. (lead vocalist) Vanya -Indonesia. (Main Vocal) Queen - Vietnam. (Main Rapper) P/s:I really appreciate for your effort for having time to react to Z-Girls..Thank u So much..
@myragingwhormoans4 жыл бұрын
i'm a galaxz, but i'd imagine it would be difficult to rank them since there isn't enough content showcasing mahiro, joanne, bell, queen and to some extent, priyanka's vocals
@user-gs7ln2gl8n4 жыл бұрын
can you do everglow, gidle, itzy, izone, & loona next
@saint94683 жыл бұрын
I find it funny that most of the members of Twice have extremely soft vocals
@chaeyoungslovie3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Except for Jihyo, Jeongyeon, Chaeyoung and maybe Nayeon are the only ones with a bold, strong tone. Rest have very light and cutesy tones
@luvaria84293 жыл бұрын
@@chaeyoungslovie i think momo also gets quite chesty and definitely nayeon because she is chesty