My twilight cleric is going to wear a "Team Jacob" shirt when he takes a long rest. Also, you don't have to wait for night to fly as a twilight cleric, you can do it during the day. The twilight sanctuary says that it is "filled with dim light" not that it sheds dim light. That means that even during the day it turns bright light into dim light inside the sphere, and thus you can fly.
@orenjikitty4 жыл бұрын
I made my Goliath cleric as a twilight cleric and she worships the moon and stars. She comes from a seafaring family that uses the night sky as guides and I was so happy this got confirmed from the UA
@Ellioomus4 жыл бұрын
ngl might just simp for your character
@itzplant31964 жыл бұрын
@@Ellioomus same
@juliawhitmore39913 жыл бұрын
I'm playing my half orc twilight cleric tomorrow for the first time and I also gave her a seafaring backstory! Her holy symbol is an astrolabe 💚 I love the idea of pirates and sea merchants having a special relationship with the stars
@donovansingleton90964 жыл бұрын
MOTH CLERIC! LET'S GOOO
@KrazyBird9114 жыл бұрын
*subclass exists* Tod: "This is one of my favourites" .... I can't say i'm not the same way though >.>
@mikeparker45094 жыл бұрын
Honestly that’s a big mood. Even the ones I write off I’ll watch the video and immediately want to roll one.
@zztoppinseve4 жыл бұрын
I made a star Druid twilight cleric multiclass that was all about knowing celestial bodies and interpreting things based on that
@franciszekbalcerowski18144 жыл бұрын
Congratulations, you've successfully made the optimal cleric! There literally isn't a better cleric in the game. If you only go stars druid 2 of course.. Just remember to take spirit guardians, spiritual weapon and thorn whip!
@mikeparker45094 жыл бұрын
This honestly sounds like the coolest combo aesthetically, ever.
@zztoppinseve4 жыл бұрын
@@franciszekbalcerowski1814 I was actually thinking going 14 Druid / 6 cleric
@zztoppinseve4 жыл бұрын
@@mikeparker4509 Thank you! 😊
@paulh38923 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome! Yeah this definitely seems like a science fantasy themed cleric. I bet this would fit nicely in a planescape or spell jammer game.
@kaisolacegames4 жыл бұрын
I've actually just started playing a twilight domain cleric! We were only a few weeks into our campaign when Tasha's came out and my DM let me switch from my original domain, as it made MUCH more sense for my stars-at-sea-loving, Selune-worshiper sailor cleric. So far I'm loving the new abilities and the way it lets me play the character I really want to play.
@nightraven88144 жыл бұрын
Never been into Cleric, but this makes me want to change that outlook. Flying three times a day by level 6 given some short rests or certain, very broad conditions, as well as one kickass spell list, and one of the best channel divinities I've ever seen.
@tiradentes45254 жыл бұрын
1d6+LvL as "Shield" without using action, bonus, react is so powerful.
@greensmurf2212 жыл бұрын
My favorite question to the DM: 'What's the light situation?' 'Dim light' 'I cast Steps of the Night' >WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
@Tigerblade112384 жыл бұрын
I love this subclass. I actually like centaur for this option
@kounurasaka55904 жыл бұрын
Twilight Cleric has a ton of awesome abilities to make a Vampire flavored character.
@cataryad6613 жыл бұрын
My next character is most likely a Twilight Cleric Dhampir
@JeronisLeror4 жыл бұрын
I think steps of the brave is part of the UA version of this subclass that got removed. The new version is more balanced. And, yes the age old war between the clerics of light and Clerics of Twilight
@vladimirserpov67734 жыл бұрын
Perfect pick for the Curse of Strahd campaign. 300ft darkvision. This one almost begs for a Spell Sniper or/and Observant feat. More than that - you can even share your super-darkvision with your teammates. Lvl 3 grants See Invisibility spell, so surprising or hiding something from this fella becomes even harder. Lvl 5 -> Leomund's Tiny Hut and good bye creepy nights in the wilds. Except for maybe getting poked by creatures like Night Hags, who can do nasty things straight from Ethereal Plane. I'm not against all that stuff, but DMing for a party with a Twilight Cleric would be quite challenging.
@TheHareedo4 жыл бұрын
Playing one in CoS right now. Its just as good as you think it is.
@Storm_Sorceress4 жыл бұрын
Also playing one in CoS. I've challenged my DM enough she's just started throwing worse things at us. Also dispel magic on tiny hut 😬
@TheHareedo4 жыл бұрын
@@Storm_Sorceress oh crap. Just hit level 5. Something to look out for i guess 😬
@Storm_Sorceress4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHareedo good luck! We're level 6 and had to revive 2 PCs in one random encounter 😅 (plus crazy Strahd crap)
@darkmoon25034 жыл бұрын
I dumped Dex to make a more martial-caster mix Cleric, so I was wondering if Alert would be helpful (and flavorful).
@blurootz4 жыл бұрын
I love this. I never make evil characters but I can just imagine a Fallen Aasimar Twilight Domain Cleric. Maybe as a BBG for my party.
@GrimViridian3 жыл бұрын
I could imagine there are multiple ways you could make a non evil fallen aasimar, mine was raised by a crime lord and forced to do evil things even though she didn't want to, to the point that it caused her light to leave her
@mr.quantum45433 жыл бұрын
I was thinking maybe making a moon elf with this build. Think it would fit perfectly
@GrimViridian3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.quantum4543 I'm playing a moon elf twilight cleric tonight!
@@GrimViridian What level are you starting out as?! Hope you all well and have fun Holly
@darkmoon25032 жыл бұрын
My first ever subclass. Absolutely love the Twilight Cleric.
@colenewer4 жыл бұрын
i started out as a life domain cleric but transitioned to a twilight domain as i wasnt having fun. My DM allowed this and linked it in story. When it was in UA, the lore text to be a twilight domain was "Clerics who serve these deities tend to be brave, delving into the dark to hold its dangers at bay and to bring comfort to those lost far from the light" and my character was that. Thank god my DM did that, im having so much fun with how fun and tricky my cleric can be. Im gonna multiclass into circle of stars druid for the starry form and the whole premise of my character is about the stars. He's this young woodelf cleric that is all about helping anyone and anything and i can see him going to a group of terrified survivors in a dark cave with his big smile asking whether they need help
@Trigun994 жыл бұрын
Cannot wait to play my Kalashtar Twilight Domain Cleric
@evanwhite57044 жыл бұрын
hey me too!
@darkmoon25034 жыл бұрын
That's actually a really good idea. Spirits of dreams definitely have a twilit and nocturnal essence to them.
@AlexanderTheNerdling4 жыл бұрын
I played this exactly!
@joyride69033 жыл бұрын
Same!
@TVMAN19974 жыл бұрын
Drow Twilight domain cleric is really cool
@TheHareedo4 жыл бұрын
Been playing a Firbolg Twilight Cleric in a Curse of Strahd game for a few months. He is amazing. 30 ft radius bubble of dim light+temp HP or remove frightened or charmed? Its huge.
@TANSamuraiSmurf4 жыл бұрын
This will definitely be my next domain for my next campaign! Im currently playing a Hill Dwarf Tempest Domain Cleric and love it also.
@Xylerx0004 жыл бұрын
I am so excited for this subclass.
@Tigerblade112384 жыл бұрын
Todd: "And who's got light prepared?" Me on my level 3 grave cleric in Curse of Strahd: .....
@Tusker2zero24 жыл бұрын
I've built a Soul Knife Rogue/Twilight Domain Cleric. Having the ability to share dark vision and have telepathic communications with potentially the entire party sounds pretty cool. You are now the comms officer of the group. Also, having a chaotic cleric that can throw soul knives is a cool concept. Cleric, "I will damn and destroy your soul". It's also nice that the soul knife rogue gets two knife attacks straight away. If you make a high dex cleric build, those two attacks add up nicely. Even before you add any sneak attack damage. I'm anxious to play this character in an future campaign. It should be quite interesting.
@chaerodactyl4 жыл бұрын
I'm still waiting for the right campaign to use her in, but I built a Firbolg Swarmkeeper multiclassed into Twilight Cleric, named Chasing Moonlight at Daybreak. mechanically she's a tanky archer with a buff/debuff and control spell kit (including some creepier stuff like Bestow Curse and Contagion), and thematically I loved the idea of a moth seeking, and ultimately finding, the "one true light," and then serving as both guide to and protector of it. suffice to say, I love this subclass a lot.
@pranakhan4 жыл бұрын
Thats a unique conceptualization! Your DM is lucky to have you; a unique character can help inspire an even better story.
@dexv334 жыл бұрын
I've been running a Protector Aasimar Celestial Warlock/Twilight Cleric pretty much since the UA dropped. It's an incredibly interesting mix, and I'm having a ball with it. Almost playing both sides of light and dark as a temper. It's pretty engaging to describe either the light abilities bursting through the shroud, or the shroud enveloping the light abilities depending on what the order was.
@xzero73784 жыл бұрын
i was struggling finding a cleric subclass that i wanted to play, but this is perfect for what my character is, a person who wants to balance the light and order and the darkness and chaos
@ThatBlueWanderer4 жыл бұрын
I've got a shadow monk/twilight cleric character going rn that so far has been really fun, especially since he is also a fire genasi so flavoring things and balancing the little bit of light in the darkness has also been a lot of fun
@bobfrank92674 жыл бұрын
I can defintly see this being used with humans all the time. A free feat and you get darkvision. Not only that, you don't even need to learn a spell give your friends darkvision.
@mydknightcloud3 жыл бұрын
I think any light inside the bubble is swallowed like the darkness effect. Maybe daylight spell might have an interaction. But not dispel the bubble, only make the areas overlapping become regularly lighted.
@Ellioomus4 жыл бұрын
i’m so new to DnD but i love all the art and stories 😭😭
@barcster20034 жыл бұрын
Some of the most awesome stories.
@nimfadoro11693 жыл бұрын
I’ve had an idea for a Lighthouse Keeper Cleric for a while. I was stuck between going the Light Domain or the Tempest Domain for the nautical flavor, but then reading Twilight’s description just made angels sing.
@tiradentes45254 жыл бұрын
This class is the dream for "terror" campaign. Out of the Abyss!? Curse of Std!? R. Of the Frostmaiden!? Bring it on DM, try to input fear in my party. You Will Fail!
@BrianMWPG3 жыл бұрын
Having just DM'd a game that the cleric activated the 2nd level Twilight Sanctuary ability - it is crazy powerful at lower levels, and I can't imagine it not being encounter altering any time it's used. Every round it was 6-11 hp temp hitpoints top-up to almost everyone in the party (5th lvl Cleric). (They don't stack, but it does top-up any damage they've taken with more temp hitpoints)
@Craggle254 жыл бұрын
Literally joined a campaign as a dwarf Twilight cleric and I LOVE the idea of it. I had to buy the book because of this one :)
@IceKyuubi4 жыл бұрын
A while ago I was trying to figure out how to play Demona from Disney's Gargoyles and the Twilight Domain might be good to try playing as her, plus it solves the flying problem when you're playing her as a Teifling (cause it's close to like a gargoyle). Also as for My Little Pony, Princess Luna is a very good fit for characters as well, her her wearing heavy armor would also fit since she tends to act more militaristic than her sister Celestia, I can see her on the frontlines protecting everyone and healing them
@colinmott84384 жыл бұрын
I’m vibrating after seeing this summary. I think I found my next class.
@seanchase54364 жыл бұрын
I'm currently in a game where I'm playing a twilight cleric. So far it's a lot of fun, though I'm not flying around just yet.
@snazzyfeathers4 жыл бұрын
I'd rather play a Twilight Cleric that is sneaky that doesn't use the heavy armor or martial weapons, but instead is more caster based. Any thoughts?
@tiradentes45254 жыл бұрын
Spirit Wepon (for bonus) Spirit Guardian (passive AoE damage/slow) ChannelDiv (passive shield and cleanse) As an action!? DODGE. You will be a caster, dps, support and tank
@barcster20034 жыл бұрын
Well you can ignore the heavy armor if you want. It is seemingly meant to be a tank cleric though.
@AAAndrew2 жыл бұрын
My dwarf sorcerer just switched over to Twilight Cleric after four levels of Sorcerer (religious calling). I've just hit level 2 Cleric and now I can walk around the battlefield with Twilight Sanctuary up and buff party members, and if someone goes down, I can Cure Wounds at 30' using a sorcery point, then as long as they're in the sanctuary, they at least get temporary hit points their next turn. Great for standing over a fallen comrade, or coming to their aid.
@Storm_Sorceress4 жыл бұрын
My tiefling twilight cleric is one of my favorite characters I've ever made. Hopefully they survive Barovia 😂😅
@JoeyTee4204 жыл бұрын
I’m playing a twilight cleric in strahd also, a tortle. The channel divinity saved our asses in the death house (no spoilers)
@steinistein86114 жыл бұрын
No spoilers, but: really be careful, try to avoid every fight you can, and examine every room carefully. Don't just rush in and you should be fine :) All of us survived it this way (5 players at lvl 2 at the time).
@Answerisequal424 жыл бұрын
My HW ranger will be really happy to multiclass into this.
@derandi23244 жыл бұрын
Personally i really wanna make a warforged twilight domain who was found and taught by ilmater to be someone who heals all. Especially considering what kind of a deity ilmater is. Initially i figured life domain but this just fits more. Medic unit Alpha 1 Delta or as they like to refer to themselves: aid, is a former war medic who has been left behind (thought beyond repair)on a Relatively small scale but nonetheless gruesome war. He has since been and still is being taught the pointlessness of war but to still defend and fight for those who cant
@jamieconnor6331 Жыл бұрын
Steps of the Brave Beginning at 6th level, you draw strength from your connection to twilight and find yourself at home within its dark embrace, gaining two benefits: • You have advantage on saving throws against being frightened. • If you are in dim light or darkness, you can use a bonus action to magically give yourself a flying speed equal to your walking speed until the end of your next turn. From unearthed acarna
@josetorres87894 жыл бұрын
Question, thing's that give you Darkvision usually state that you can’t discern color in darkness, only shades of gray. I didn't see that in the description of Eyes of Night. So does that mean that you can tell colors apart in total darkness as well as anyone you give darkvision to?
@barcster20034 жыл бұрын
Eyes of Night says you have Darkvision. Darkvision says you can’t discern color in Darkness, only Shades of Gray.
@101joebro3 жыл бұрын
You get 300 ft dark vision. The last 120 feet appears in blue
@TWM712 жыл бұрын
I'm building a lvl 2 Tortle/barbarian/twillight cleric for an upcoming campaign... already a 19 AC with a shell, but also carrying a +2 shield.
@Dark-Lord-Of-The-Sith4 жыл бұрын
Are we going to have an updated Spider and Drow Domains? Having played older editions, it is difficult as a DM and players to stay with War and Trickery, which do not fully encompass Her portfolio.
@ThreeLeafedClover4 жыл бұрын
5e doesn't work like that. The divine domains are purposefully vague in order to encompass many different gods and goddesses instead of each one having their very own domain.
@Dark-Lord-Of-The-Sith4 жыл бұрын
@@ThreeLeafedClover I know. I was trying to remain hopeful. My last campaign was a Drow campaign. My Priestess of Lolth had the Spider Domain, it was part of her personality. My new Drow campaign is 100 years later and she is in charge of a surface city. The PCs are playing the next generation and the Spider Domain is still a huge part of my older character. I will have to keep my homebrew conversion.
@kingmasterlord2 жыл бұрын
12:20 maybe even port in the Dawnbreaker sword from Skyrim
@TyLarson4 жыл бұрын
Imagining a twilight cleric on a spelljamming ship boarding an enemy ship via flight. In space the initial impulse would keep going and you could activate the power to reorient. That would be fun. Boarding party time!
@johngarvey44483 жыл бұрын
kobold twilight cleric pack tactics. specific trumps general the spell would go off but as the aoe of dim light is uniquely to the cleric channel and not a spell the area would still be dim right?
@Dakotak1314 жыл бұрын
That Channel Divinity though...brb while I make a Shadow Monk multiclass
@Uthardar4 жыл бұрын
For the Queen of Ravens!!
@blacksmith10664 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is a sleeper subclass. I don't think it has fully clicked for many people just how unbelievably powerful the channel divinity is. It fully changes how D&D functions from a healing perspective. There has never been a class with this level of healing capability, and it has a MASSIVE impact on combat
@JamesFicken3 жыл бұрын
I am actually going to be playing this cleric in an upcoming campaign. Gotta finish our current one first though. I'm really looking forward to playing this character.
@zergylicious4 жыл бұрын
i love how moonbeam can be renamed searchlight cause you can move it :P lol
@wwade7226 Жыл бұрын
Wow, Todd and Lauren totally flubbed the questions in this episode...
@leslierobinson87244 жыл бұрын
Really good stuff. I'm currently playing a Kensei Monk/Twilight Cleric, and its been really cool, though I'll have to update it since Tasha's came out.
@ryandeery45454 жыл бұрын
For the night is Dark, and full of Terrors.... this offers a different way to look at that phrase
@urzoth32582 жыл бұрын
Now seeing this domain cleric in action, I cannot believe it was allowed in its current form. Nerf healing spirit but allow this domain? Makes no sense.
@chyhart3 жыл бұрын
My friend is about to start a campaign in wildmount and Xhorhas (sp), I want to be a drow twilight cleric, but she is wanting to do something with the Luxon. Mr. Matt Mercer has said Light clerics follow the Luxon, And my research has lead to to really like Eilistraee for Twighlight Clerics, but i cant find anything about her in the critical role content. Feeling even more unsure what i'm doing now. I know i want to be a drow twilight cleric, my issue is, who do i follow, and why? For story purposes. What do you guys think?
@satirical5793 жыл бұрын
I think it can still work. The drow worship the Luxon, but they also thrive in the night. I know they observe and worship in sunlight every now and then, but it’s also the sunlight that allows the moon/s to shine bright right? Talk with your friend/dm and see if there’s any issue with having a twilight cleric follow the luxon as well.
@arielhoeft75113 жыл бұрын
Starting my next campaign with my 1/2 Drow Twilight Cleric on Saturday; wish me nat20s!
@icecreamchick454 жыл бұрын
best twilight domain cleric is Kristen Applebees from Fantasy High, I don't make the rules
@wanderingshade83834 жыл бұрын
So...someone heard the name "Night's Watch" and said "that would be a great type of Cleric"
@Pluto1372 жыл бұрын
the art and Tasha's comment AWWWESSOOMME Tasha's is so cool, subclass and magic tattoos yeah but there is a bunch of little cool too
@davidmontijo96444 жыл бұрын
Todd does that mean you are like Batman where Bruce Wayne was afraid of bats?
@wizart_xander4 жыл бұрын
Shadow monk/twilight cleric
@1001Bastiano4 жыл бұрын
Not only the light spell, but wouldn't just daylight negate the dimlight, so you can't use your stuff during the day.. would be great in the underdark haha
@enchantedrose45523 жыл бұрын
I love it and imagine if you mix it with bard
@jamieconnor6331 Жыл бұрын
Perfect for a kenku
@ladysaylor17404 жыл бұрын
Just imagine twilight cleric multiclass w/ circle of stars Druid
@m1g3lo3 жыл бұрын
I had a whole first session of a hombrew campaign ruined by this domain... not complaining, great subclass
@LightPink2 жыл бұрын
Wotc throwing out balance to push people to one dnd
@Dancan7994 жыл бұрын
A gloom stalker with one level in this is amazing
@donovansingleton90964 жыл бұрын
Ooh! That is good
@franciszekbalcerowski18144 жыл бұрын
why wouldn't you go two levels for the best channel divinity in the game?!?!
@jacobmoll28784 жыл бұрын
One shot I made 5th level gloomstalker, 6th lvl twilight. It was great as soon as the lights went out.
@Dancan7994 жыл бұрын
@@franciszekbalcerowski1814 granted it’s a good power but the higher level gloomstalker abilities are stronger and considering most campaigns end around level 12 ish going one level mean your still likely to get the reroll a failed hit ability of gloomstalker
@keithhart78553 жыл бұрын
Twilight domain is the best
@Leytier4 жыл бұрын
Soooo this is a cleric of Good Vibes Only or Chillhop vibes LOL
@MisterFister6124 жыл бұрын
lot of astronomy based subclasses in tasha and i love it.
@benfawefwaeffwaefawfdekk20804 жыл бұрын
respectfully, I DM for a twilight cleric and holy cow is this one OP. The darkvision was brutal enough to build dungeons around but the fact they actually buffed the temporary hp aura is beyond me
@vladimirserpov67734 жыл бұрын
All the more reasons to focus that one first or make their character path twisting and full of questionable moral choices and eventually bring them to the brink of losing their god's favor.
@josephsnouwaert6714 жыл бұрын
Yeah I had level 6 twilight cleric in my session. had to nerf the features of this class case it was so busted compared to the other people, made it so it is a 60 foot darkvision and becomes 120 if you already have darkvision, and that CD you only get half you cleric level + d6 temporary hp and the creature gains advantage on it's next saving throw against charmed or frightened or to end a charmed or frightened effect. With these changes still one the best clerics I have seen at my table, Both clerics form this book are horribly designed.
@josephsnouwaert6714 жыл бұрын
@@skymanta1222 twilight cleric forces enemies to deal more damage not relay on Charm and Frighten (which cuts out a lot of monsters) and monsters need to have stuns (which the most unfun thing for players is to skip turns) it is more work for me as I have modify every encounter, which is unfun and takes away time for prepping other import things like story and lore. also it makes less fun or the rest of the party as they feel worthless compared to it and having to be saved by the cleric against the now tougher monsters that weaker class can't handle, I have seen before with the with a Shadow Bard in my party who released the features after level 3 were pretty lack luster and was not having fun case they did not not feel the contributing to the party (which in that case I buffed the class). Wizard's failed to deliver a good product that is fair and balanced, I am not have my self and the rest of my party suffer because of it. Play the class case you think the idea and themes are cool (which it is really cool) not case it is broken. If you play the the twilight cleric just case it is busted, then you should not be playing it.
@TikarinkaGlavatskihRUS59 Жыл бұрын
Я сделал клерика домена Сумерек, дроу девушку, которая ушла из родного дома из-за Элистери.
@CleoPinto43174 жыл бұрын
STEALTH CLERIC YEEEEAAAAAAAAAAH
@MrNicster3 жыл бұрын
Spent 4 minutes saying how cool it is, and looks by saying nothing but babble. You really nailed this one :-/
@benry0074 жыл бұрын
I don't actually think Todd likes this subclass. I think when he said this is surprising about the heavy armor and martial weapons he was thinking this doesn't belong here. Twilight already has enough stuff at lvl 1.
@kori2283 жыл бұрын
to use the Channel Divinity, you need to be pretty close to the battle, so at least the armor makes sense
@benry0073 жыл бұрын
@@kori228 twilight cleric just gets too much stuff. I might ban it at my table.
@kori2283 жыл бұрын
@@benry007 seems on the same level as Forge in terms of features imo, but you do you. Banning the whole thing might be a bit much though.
@benry0073 жыл бұрын
@@kori228 the way I approach it is to say I allow these subclasses from Tasha's rather then allowing the whole book. I don't include the wild magic barbarian, eloquence bard or glory paladin (I use the Heroism paladin from the UA instead).
@kori2283 жыл бұрын
@@benry007 that's cool. Some subclasses and races got nerfed/altered quite severely in their official release that I'm not a big fan of either (from what I hear, Kensei was abuseable in UA, but is underpowered as an official release; Changelings and Warforged had features removed).
@ryuku24 жыл бұрын
Theros. Nyxborn Twilight Cleric.
@melissawardjohns2204 жыл бұрын
So he is a masochist in order to only slay the things he hates instead of being the things he loves and having the party slay him. I think if you had a therapist they would approve. 😂
@TheRoyjernstadt4 жыл бұрын
make Spawn
@dhaas46984 жыл бұрын
Owl-akokra LOL
@trise20334 жыл бұрын
So Twilight Domain is a Cleric who wanted to play a Paladin.
@Dancan7994 жыл бұрын
Heh, got here at 69 views
@JMaverick674 жыл бұрын
Nice
@emilecoetzee2304 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@MushroomExperiments4 жыл бұрын
Nice
@enso83794 жыл бұрын
Clerics whacking people with weapons is kinda pointless. You don't get extra attack and you get full spell casting spell slots. You should be concentrating on spells not trying to get in for like 1d8 damage. Obviously do what you gotta do for your own fun, but clerics are not martial characters. Even if you give them weapons and heavy armor.
@vladimirserpov67734 жыл бұрын
Are War Clerics a joke to you? :D I DM'ed for a Tabaxi War Cleric. Heavy armor + martial weapons proficiency + insane movement from race + various auras (spirit guardians deal tons of dmg if cleric's concentration is not broken fast) + channel divinity for +10 to hit with your weapon attack. They also can attack with weapon using a bonus action Wisdom Modifier times since lvl1. That cat was devastating both in close and ranged combat.
@enso83794 жыл бұрын
@@skymanta1222 Ok lets compare clerics at 9th level. I'll give you a shield and long sword. 1d8+4 Prof+2 Strength (I'll be generous and assume you have +2 for your str modifier), 1d8 for your divine strike, and 1d8 for booming blade (assuming you took magic initate as a feat or wasted a level multi classing). That will average 18 damage IF your ONE weapon attack hits. 1d8+4 Wisdom will average 8 damage. And Spirit guardians will average 12 damage against one target. If everything hits you will do 38 damage. Now let's compare a trickery domain cleric with animate objects. As just a bonus action I can command 10 copper peices to do 1d4+4 damage which averages to 6 per hit. If only HALF of mine hit I'm doing 30 damage with just the bonus action. I still have my action to cast guiding bolt for 3d6 (9 plus giving the next attack advantage) or sacred flame for 2d8 for 8 damage average, or I could cast healing word and raise a downed alley. AND I can do all that from 60 feet away in which it would normally take two turns of movement for someone to close the distance on me. So I'm not having to make concentration checks every turn like you are. If you happen to fail your concentration check you have to recast spirit guardians with your action and forgo your weapon attack.... Being in melee range makes literally no sense at all from a strict mechanical point of view. A raging barbarian with a regular non-magical great axe will do 34 damage on average per turn before feats or other features are calculated and still have their bonus action for things like an opportunity attack. I would say it looks like you have no idea what you are talking about. And this does not even take into account the setup. You need 3 turns to cast spiritual weapon, spirit guardians, and take a weapon attack. Mine only takes 1 round of setup, and I can use it in the same turn to attack with the copper coins.
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@@vladimirserpov6773 Or you could play a fighter battle master with precision attack. Throw on sharp shooter and action surge and your boss encounter just got melted. People say these things the like the war domain is amazing or their abilities are unique. A fighter can literally do the same thing much more consistently if straight damage is your end game. The Cleric only has 1d8 vs a 1d10 or 1d12 hit die. Once they use all their wisdom modifier attacks they are done for the rest of the day. AND you have to look at opportunity cost. If the cleric is running around the battlefield doing at best the same damage as a fighter what are they NOT doing with their action and bonus actions. You cannot convince me that taking an attack action and your bonus action for damage is a better use of a round than casting 3rd, 4th, or 5th level spells. Casting banishment or hold person on a spell caster is going to massively impact the battle rather than taking an attack action.