Twilight Lightning Run Bruntingthorpe 2019

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Michelle Middleton

Michelle Middleton

Күн бұрын

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@namron46
@namron46 3 жыл бұрын
I was a young acting corporal stationed at RAF Leuchars, Scotland 1966. It was quite something to witness the Lightnings on QRA take off out into the North Sea in full reheat. Tracking down the Russian Bombers (Bears) in minutes from take off. Occasionaly they had demo's for visiting polititions and overseas ministers. The show they put on was spectacular. The sheer speed and grunt of the lightning made your hair stand up. Nevr forget it.
@kevinbaird7277
@kevinbaird7277 3 жыл бұрын
I was born in 1966 in St.Andrews, special part of the world, these aircraft are awesome, British engineering at it's best.
@1tonyboat
@1tonyboat 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, having served on 111 Sqd in the early 70`s
@Bad-for-good
@Bad-for-good Күн бұрын
I went to Leuchars with my dad when I was a kid in the early 1970's and watched the lightnings fly at the yearly air display. They are simply the most awesome aircraft I have ever seen and the memories will be with me for the rest of my life. I'd love to see another one fly in this country before I am no longer here.
@neilhobson3624
@neilhobson3624 3 жыл бұрын
I find it hard to put into words how awesome this plane is. By far my favourite. 🇬🇧
@josemoreno3334
@josemoreno3334 3 жыл бұрын
Me Too.
@coyote8427
@coyote8427 3 жыл бұрын
it looks fast and does exactly that
@matthewirvine1361
@matthewirvine1361 2 жыл бұрын
@@coyote8427 it looks like somebody just stretched a thin sheet of metal over the engines. And then needed a bit more space at the bottom so extended it a bit more. like there is as little excess weight as possible and ended up being about 85% engine 10% wing and 5% seat
@johndavid5618
@johndavid5618 2 жыл бұрын
Jip."The best of british. 🇬🇧
@neilhobson3624
@neilhobson3624 2 жыл бұрын
@@johndavid5618 Certainly is John. Brilliant engineering for it’s time mate👍👍.
@brothercaptainprice
@brothercaptainprice 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice capture - steady, no heads in the way and no messing about with the focus. Had the pleasure of watching these get airborne in an airshow at Mildenhall in the early 8os - the vertical climb was jaw dropping.
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks Andy. I wish I'd seen that!
@54PIRATE
@54PIRATE 2 жыл бұрын
When I was as a kid we used to watch them fly out of RAF Manston along with Vulcan, Valiant and the handley Paige Victor made the hairs on the neck stand up and still can
@TheDoosh79
@TheDoosh79 3 жыл бұрын
80s airshows as a kid, the noise from two lightnings and a vulcan taking off on full reheat was enough to make you think the ground was about to crack open.
@airbrush740
@airbrush740 3 жыл бұрын
We just don't make aircraft like this anymore :( and Airshows are not the same
@nelsonwhaley6348
@nelsonwhaley6348 3 жыл бұрын
That must have been incredible...ear splitting I should think! My 2 favourite aircraft, plus Concorde. British and enduring images.
@dp-sr1fd
@dp-sr1fd 3 жыл бұрын
In 1963 I was at RAF Coltishall as an air cadet which at the time was a Lightning interceptor station. I saw them take off and once airborne a few feet they would pull up and climb almost vertical and disappear through the cloud base in a few seconds. At air shows you do not see anything like what the are capable of.
@richardmarshall4322
@richardmarshall4322 2 жыл бұрын
I served in the RAF from 84 to 93, first posting RAF Wattisham in Suffolk. F4 Phantoms of 56 and 74 Squadrons. Binbrook Lightnings would often drop in and on departure would do the vertical climb take offs just to show F4 pilots what a real fighter was!!
@caractacusbrittania7442
@caractacusbrittania7442 Жыл бұрын
Political stitch up by labour's Dennis Healey, He wanted American support for an if loan, they wanted an end to Britain's aero industry, and the sale of lardass f4s Healey got his loan , Britain lost its air industry.
@Daedricbob
@Daedricbob Жыл бұрын
I remember being sat on my Dad's shoulders as a kid watching these at RAF Binbrook and airshows. So awesome - you could feel the vibration in every cell in your body.
@claudebylion9932
@claudebylion9932 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine these with high power, high bypass engines, modern electronics and bubble canopy. It would make you cry, great British engineering.
@212MPH
@212MPH 3 жыл бұрын
How could you ever fit a high bypass engine ? The narrow body could only take a pure turbo jet engine hence it's very narrow body.
@155mustang
@155mustang 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention high bypass engines are incapable of supersonic flight. It would be a insanely stupid mod
@212MPH
@212MPH 3 жыл бұрын
@@155mustang exactly
@delten-eleven1910
@delten-eleven1910 3 жыл бұрын
Great Britain's aerospace engineering was Great!
@petercdowney
@petercdowney 2 жыл бұрын
@@155mustang Low-bypass turbofans are used on the Eurofighter Typhoon. They're not ideal for supersonic aircraft, however, due to their larger cross-section.
@zebop917
@zebop917 6 ай бұрын
I still remember my first experience of seeing Lightnings in action. The Battle Of Britain display at RAF Coltishall in 1970 where there was a squadron and I think also the OCU. Seeing them blasting down the runway on full burners then pitching up and heading straight to heaven was very impressive to a teenage plane-spotter.
@quirkyadventures1722
@quirkyadventures1722 2 жыл бұрын
I have a painting of XR728 in the stairway of my house which is signed by lightning pilots. Absolutely love the lightning, it's my favourite jet of all time, absolutely stunning.
@chriscrumbs
@chriscrumbs 10 ай бұрын
Amazing. Good to see this again. I was stood on that flightline at Bruntingthorpe with my dad, my wife and son - he was four at the time. I had been to LPG events before, but they had not, so were not fully prepared for just how visceral an experience this was. Anyway, all ears were fully protected and hearing survived intact.
@captainbuggernut9565
@captainbuggernut9565 3 жыл бұрын
One of the finest fighters ever built. Unmodified it could get 80k ft to intercept a U2 and find itself in the afternoon dashing to intercept a Bear.
@pilarmorin4405
@pilarmorin4405 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps it's range would be constricting, but otherwise a nice piece of kit...
@KK_on_KK
@KK_on_KK 3 жыл бұрын
Why would it need to intercept a U2...?
@petergordon4525
@petergordon4525 3 жыл бұрын
@@KK_on_KK done during interception trials, no other reason except to show how good this aircraft was, 36000 ft in under 3 minutes.
@owensmith7530
@owensmith7530 3 жыл бұрын
It also intercepted a BA Concorde at 60K ft doing Mach 2, again as a trial. Admittedly a number of Lightnings failed that intercept, but some succeeded proving it was possible if ever needed. Nobody was entirely sure what the Soviets might be developing.
@martinpepperell8424
@martinpepperell8424 3 жыл бұрын
and then rushing to the White Hart to intercept a few beers before closing.
@stellanholgersson7170
@stellanholgersson7170 3 ай бұрын
For me, the EE Lightning and the Hawker Hunter are the most iconic British jet fighters, especially in that mottle camouflage
@namron46
@namron46 3 жыл бұрын
I forgot to mention the pilots were mostly young men. What a job, can you imagine the feeling, the pressure, the privilage of flying the fastest jet and the responibility.
@bobsurgranny
@bobsurgranny 4 жыл бұрын
Love the way you captured that at 3:22 nice angle letting run into view. Picked up the sound really well too, kinda shakes you as if you were there. Great stuff 👍
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! Glad you enjoyed it!
@johnmorris7815
@johnmorris7815 8 ай бұрын
Still look like something out of Star Wars even today.
@andrewhanslow5420
@andrewhanslow5420 11 ай бұрын
The js was the station commanders initials at RAF Binbrook in the 80s...
@gazza2933
@gazza2933 3 жыл бұрын
Enough to make grown-men (and women) cry. Thank you for posting this 👍
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it and you're welcome
@paulearp9593
@paulearp9593 3 жыл бұрын
@@michellemiddleton2569 so sad they should b flying
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulearp9593 Never going to happen again in the UK sadly
@andyhinds542
@andyhinds542 2 ай бұрын
I used to do the Bruntingthorpe fast taxy run days years ago. The Lightning was a plane that was so loud that you couldn't hear yourself scream! It was so loud that my molecules were vibrating!
@f.w.1318
@f.w.1318 3 жыл бұрын
Off all the war birds I’ve seen this has to be the most wicked one ever, I’ve seen several in person but not this one, those vertical stacked engines was a design ahead of its time,
@owensmith7530
@owensmith7530 3 жыл бұрын
It was a nightmare for maintenance. If the upper engine had a problem, you had to take the lower engine out to get to the upper one.
@kensmith726
@kensmith726 Жыл бұрын
I love this jet. It served proud fo about 28 years. I have a nice photo of a 50pence lightning shooting down a brand new Tornado. I'll bet the mess was in uproar that night. God bless her.
@andrewtaylor940
@andrewtaylor940 3 жыл бұрын
“Now we’re sure it’s a Pilot in it this time, right?”
@andrewbarrett2685
@andrewbarrett2685 3 жыл бұрын
Get these two beasts airworthy and show them off at riat seeing these fighters flying will be worth the ticket price alone.😍
@thephantom2man
@thephantom2man 3 жыл бұрын
If only, the faa will not ever let these types fly in the uk again, it was a hige problem mike beachy head had, and was why they all went in pieces to south africa
@theyrealltaken3
@theyrealltaken3 2 жыл бұрын
I'd swim across the Atlantic to see that!
@simonmorley8403
@simonmorley8403 8 ай бұрын
02:00 That's the money shot, right there!
@michaelpeart7754
@michaelpeart7754 3 жыл бұрын
They still look beautiful.
@themodelrailwayrepaircentr297
@themodelrailwayrepaircentr297 3 жыл бұрын
I remember these taking off at night after the Ruskies , from coningsby in the 1970s .. I’ll never ever forget it
@Marie579
@Marie579 7 ай бұрын
Keep it serviceable, you never know when it may be pressed into service again , seeing as how diminished our forces are currently!
@Maurice_Moss
@Maurice_Moss 4 жыл бұрын
The only jet that could intercept a U2 😎
@mattwalden4020
@mattwalden4020 3 жыл бұрын
And over take Concorde
@Maurice_Moss
@Maurice_Moss 3 жыл бұрын
@Arthur Humphreys the f-104 was definitely better at killing its pilots
@captainbuggernut9565
@captainbuggernut9565 3 жыл бұрын
@Arthur Humphreys Nope both the F104's that achieved over 100k ft were heavily modified aircraft. They were not stock fighters. The NF104 actually had a rocket fitted to get to over 120k and the official 103k height record was from an aircraft with modifications to its fuselage a different engine and a whole load of other mods which would make it useless as a in service fighter. The lightnings were all daily used for intercepts.
@bananajoe3669
@bananajoe3669 3 жыл бұрын
@@Maurice_Moss Hm, what about the Hawker Scimitar?
@zig_ziggy
@zig_ziggy 3 жыл бұрын
​@Arthur Humphreys The F-104G, which accounted for almost half of all Starfighters built, had a service ceiling of 50,000ft.
@keithpearson4879
@keithpearson4879 3 жыл бұрын
thankyou for keeping them alive
@errol-zs1aci
@errol-zs1aci 2 жыл бұрын
Love your video of these magnificent birds. The 2 afterburner run was absolutely the best. ♥♥♥
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@therookpiece
@therookpiece 9 ай бұрын
That's damn exciting.
@chrisst8922
@chrisst8922 3 жыл бұрын
I was there in 1992? Maybe and it was pouring with rain. They did a simulated take off side by side and the spray was just like it would have been at Lossiemouth. Then we all sheltered under the Vulcan that was still warm.
@yellowbelly8402
@yellowbelly8402 4 жыл бұрын
Remember them flying over Lincoln City in 70's great planes.What happened to the one from Helmswell Museum when it shut?
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry I don't know the answer to that, wish I could remember seeing them fly.
@yellowbelly8402
@yellowbelly8402 4 жыл бұрын
XM192 Lightning is at Thorpe Camp Woodhall Spa Just found it.See it few years ago didn't realise it was from Helmswell Museum.
@richardnewton9967
@richardnewton9967 5 жыл бұрын
Thank for taking the time to share another good quality video.
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 5 жыл бұрын
Richard Newton You’re welcome glad you appreciate it.
@paulmillard1130
@paulmillard1130 3 жыл бұрын
Got loads of photos of these aircraft taken at the crash gates Binbrook in the early eighties.
@johnmorris7815
@johnmorris7815 8 ай бұрын
I had the good fortune to be in the back seat of an RAF DHC1 at the holding point at RAF Wattisham when our takeoff was delayed while a lightning practiced for a display, I sat there and watched the whole thing then went flying, a few days later after returning from camp I went to the IAT at Greenham Common where I witnessed the same display, a sad day when the last Lightning left service.
@mickb474
@mickb474 Жыл бұрын
What got me was the way the Lightning skidded the n a fast turn. I was in the RNFAA from 1966 and we used to spend time at RAF bases on detachments. At Leuchars i used to love watching the Lightnings take off and stand on their tails!
@SteveDentonClassics
@SteveDentonClassics 4 жыл бұрын
3:23 If that don't get your stuff going, your stuff ain't working
@PifflePrattle
@PifflePrattle 3 жыл бұрын
Foreplay is fine but withdrawing at the moment critical is bloody frustrating. IOW I want to see them fly!
@thepirate5955
@thepirate5955 21 сағат бұрын
Astounding aircraft, so unique. Love it!
@crazyman1650
@crazyman1650 2 жыл бұрын
It’s likely pretty dangerous to fly these lightnings but what if the pilot went full speed took off and landed after a few minutes
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 2 жыл бұрын
They are kept in airworthy condition ;-)
@BlatentlyFakeName
@BlatentlyFakeName 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think they are allowed to be flown anymore. A lot of old military jets got banned from flying because of updated health and safety regs. It's also why the V bombers can't fly :(
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlatentlyFakeName You are correct that they are not allowed to fly under CAA rules in this country but these jets are kept in airworthy condition.
@al-azimahmed1188
@al-azimahmed1188 3 жыл бұрын
That was one beast of a fighter aircraft. I wonder why they didn't do full delta on the wings?
@ProjectFlashlight612
@ProjectFlashlight612 3 жыл бұрын
Delta wings require long takeoffs. The slab wing gave lift advantage without the penalty
@al-azimahmed1188
@al-azimahmed1188 3 жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFlashlight612 it's amazing that such a small section of wing would have such an impact, you say that but I'm pretty sure the Mig-21 could take of on short run ways, granted it was alot smaller and lighter.
@ThePereubu1710
@ThePereubu1710 3 жыл бұрын
I have such affection for the Lightning, big ugly bird that it is. It is the simplest of all, powered, flying objects; take the biggest engine you can, strap some wings on it and see what happens!
@condorcircus323
@condorcircus323 3 жыл бұрын
F104 cry’s
@delten-eleven1910
@delten-eleven1910 3 жыл бұрын
...same could be said about the beloved F-4 Phantom.
@Radio478
@Radio478 3 жыл бұрын
Remember this started in early 1950s, still can out perform some new fighter's today,
@Radio478
@Radio478 3 жыл бұрын
There is a video on tube, showing how it did out climb a u2, out speed concord at over mach 2,
@andreskart
@andreskart 3 жыл бұрын
I think is beautiful!!!!
@Foxbat320
@Foxbat320 3 жыл бұрын
Sigh!! I was lucky enough to there at the last flight of the lightnings at binbrook . I use to love the journey there not only lightnings but vulcans too, in the sky around market raisin and louth . Long ago in a galaxy far far away much missed.
@fwdesecretary1500
@fwdesecretary1500 3 жыл бұрын
First posting at Binbrook 1969/70 as a rigger. Fifty+ years on and these winged rockets are still my number one.
@Schenkerflyingv
@Schenkerflyingv 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gutted that we are unlikely to see this again, due to the current situation with the airfield - These Cold War beauties, deserve to be run.
@ianwilson4623
@ianwilson4623 3 жыл бұрын
I worked with the lightnings of 19 and 92 sqn at RAF Gutersloh in the 1970's; A really impressive aircraft and when the F-16s were brought to Germany the lightnings would from being parked cold beat them to an intercept at 100,000ft, Not as good at turning dogfights but with pilots that knew what they were doing they would easily take out F4s
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience Ian very interesting.
@GEdBrowningPhD
@GEdBrowningPhD 3 жыл бұрын
"easily" ? Much depends on the pilot - - !
@owensmith7530
@owensmith7530 3 жыл бұрын
Lightnings could not reach 100,000ft, not even in a zoom climb.
@alexanderwhite8320
@alexanderwhite8320 9 ай бұрын
Lightning is a interceptor, F16 is more like multirole fighter. They are built for different tasks since different parameters. Lightning was designed to climb fast and high to shoot down incoming bombers.
@RuiPlaneSpotter
@RuiPlaneSpotter 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video
@firestorm996
@firestorm996 3 жыл бұрын
If this was the November run, I was there. We got to sit in XS904 after the run and the crowds had departed, and given a cockpit tour by the old Air Commodore of Binbrook (apologies I am terrible with names!). He had many an anecdote, favourite of mine was how he told us about doing over 20 interception sorties in a single day and only logging 1hr of flying time!
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
That would be Jake Jarron, great guy with many fascinating tales to tell!
@fekard
@fekard 3 жыл бұрын
I have enjoyed seeing these flying in Cape Town till it stopped. Great photo ops there in the clip but the blue and white barriers really destroy the backdrop in my humble opinion. Makes it look like an amusement ride.
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly the airfield was also used as a race track hence the barriers. It's all closed now and a storage facility for new cars!
@smitbar11
@smitbar11 3 жыл бұрын
@@michellemiddleton2569 What has / will happen to the aircraft?
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
@@smitbar11 They are still being kept in a running condition in a small compound at the site.
@andrewcisalowicz1326
@andrewcisalowicz1326 2 жыл бұрын
Went to the last air show at Binbrook before lightning were retired.Rumour has it that they were going to do something special.We were not disappointed!After take off each lightning banked round flying directly towards the crowd then went vertical,the noise was amazing!
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that sound impressive!
@mr.d.6529
@mr.d.6529 3 жыл бұрын
Put jets on a wing .or put wings on a jet🤔
@nelsonwhaley6348
@nelsonwhaley6348 2 ай бұрын
Probably the most truly impressive air raft ever built militarily, followed by Concorde o the other side
@nelsonwhaley6348
@nelsonwhaley6348 3 жыл бұрын
I would go to RIAT again just to see this incredible aircraft fly..I haven't been back since Vulcan XH588 was grounded.
@owensmith7530
@owensmith7530 3 жыл бұрын
Vulcan, Victor, Lightning, Harrier, Concorde. Any of those flying would get me back to an airshow. Like you I haven't been to one since XH588 grounding, which was entirely unnecessary on technical grounds and all about modern corporate mentality.
@kenmayfield3739
@kenmayfield3739 3 жыл бұрын
How tempting it must have been to ease that stick back.....
@morganfoster6671
@morganfoster6671 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t be able to stop myself 😂
@maximilliancunningham6091
@maximilliancunningham6091 8 ай бұрын
Rivalled only by the F-104 climbing.
@barrywhittingham6154
@barrywhittingham6154 2 жыл бұрын
These weren't planes. They were rockets with wings.
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 2 жыл бұрын
and a seat
@countdracula7235
@countdracula7235 3 жыл бұрын
Why could t these two magnificent birds be made airworthy ? Cost,.no parts ??
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
The CAA will not allow it and I'm not sure of the details but I believe the lightning is classed as a complex aircraft and has a chequered history from a safety point of view. The unique design of stacking one engine on top of another probably has something to do with it - fuel leaks from the top engine to the bottom were the cause of many fires!
@dracula7188
@dracula7188 3 жыл бұрын
@@michellemiddleton2569 Thanks for the very good explanation mate, makes sense. I did not think about the vertical configuration of the engines & leaking; one would think that the E/E Engineers would have routed the fuel lines in a safe manner and shielded. Nevertheless such a Beast !
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
@@dracula7188 No problem and I'm no expert, just an enthusiast. I'm sure it wasn't that simple but yes very impressive!
@PenDragonsPig
@PenDragonsPig 3 жыл бұрын
I wander if people know this is not the plane the F35 was named after but the P38?
@davidlewis6464
@davidlewis6464 3 жыл бұрын
The F-35 is named after both Lightnings. The UK is the only 1st tier partner in the project so got a say in the name.
@212MPH
@212MPH 3 жыл бұрын
I remember the lightning as a kid. What an aircraft, an interceptor no one could escape. They killed a few pilots as I remember.
@thephantom2man
@thephantom2man 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they had a bit of a tendany for the 'dreaded' engine 1 reheat fire, and the main gear tyres werent exactly perfect for landing in crosswinds
@Radio478
@Radio478 3 жыл бұрын
I worked for EE/BAE. The best in the world
@tractorman810
@tractorman810 3 жыл бұрын
i can remember as. a kid sitting on the front step of the farm house in suffolk, watching these screaming off overhead ,after burners giving it some on quick alert calls, made a hell of a noise,and was a fantastic sight in the pitch black them glows screaming across the sky
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
Great memories Sean
@neilhobson3624
@neilhobson3624 3 жыл бұрын
Wow ! I bet that was awesome. 👍.
@leowatkins3718
@leowatkins3718 3 жыл бұрын
Saw them as a young kid at Warton. The noise was incredable.
@1tonyboat
@1tonyboat 2 жыл бұрын
Most probly 111 Sqn from Wattisham. I worked on them in the early 70`s great memories ,,,,,,
@steventhornton4716
@steventhornton4716 3 жыл бұрын
Theres a rumor that they are about to get one up I mean why not south Africa has em
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
There is one in America which is on the cards - AALO
@steventhornton4716
@steventhornton4716 3 жыл бұрын
@@michellemiddleton2569 would be fantastic to see one fly I know there's a typhoon b1 circa 1942* going up they have an air worthy sabre engine just got to build the rest of it to match
@owensmith7530
@owensmith7530 3 жыл бұрын
@@steventhornton4716 They've got an airworthy Sabre engine? How? They were hard enough to keep in the air in WWII. The starting procedure was lengthy to avoid damage to the sleeve valves.
@steventhornton4716
@steventhornton4716 3 жыл бұрын
@@owensmith7530 amazing isn't it I thought they were all gone too but they managed to aquire one recondition it and its waiting to go in an airframe which happens to be the b1 they are restoring rb396 there's pictures of the sabre 2 lined up in what will be the engine bay on the aircraft the current status is the rear fuselage in process of being done then by summer 2021 or about now the cockpit will be next in line for restoration I'm so excited to see the aircraft in one piece the only other example of a b1 is in London museum but they won't let it fly due to rarity of the plane which is fair enough but even dry runs of the engine would be amazing
@michaelthompson3381
@michaelthompson3381 3 жыл бұрын
All that performance came at a cost. Early generation Jet Engines used a lot of fuel. The Lightning's design with a lot of the fuselage taken up with Inlet ducting negated the opportunity for Internal fuel capacity, hence the addition of the 600 gallon Ventral tank the capacity of which was later reduced by the ventral Gun Pack. The design gave the Lightning it's astounding performance and unfortunately it's weak point, lack of fuel capacity.
@andrewmorke
@andrewmorke 3 жыл бұрын
Its missiles were also a load of rubbish and undermined the full potential of this aircraft.
@sichere
@sichere Ай бұрын
@@andrewmorke Not really - They were state of the art when introduced and if things got a little hot they could provide some instant sunshine.
@thephantom2man
@thephantom2man 3 жыл бұрын
More then anything i wish these beauts could still fly, or that i could of been born in a generation where i could of seen and heard "binbrook, scramble 1 lightning"
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@leon_sale
@leon_sale 3 жыл бұрын
I seen them a few times at Woodford when I went as a kid, that, the Vulcan and the Phantom were three of my favourites hands down. Scary loud on flypass :-) .
@SuperEdge67
@SuperEdge67 3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to know the PSI of those skinny little tyres.
@ОлегМокин-й3ф
@ОлегМокин-й3ф Жыл бұрын
🤔:wings and gears(Конструкция)...
@simonpeach1705
@simonpeach1705 3 жыл бұрын
Idiot late night idea...but is there any kind of app that can make my van sound like this when I start it?
@robertmilne4304
@robertmilne4304 3 ай бұрын
Do these two no longer have airworthiness? It would be stunning to see them take off.
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 2 ай бұрын
They are kept in airworthiness condition but will never fly again in the UK due to CAA rules
@davidpeters6536
@davidpeters6536 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely to see these beautiful birds, but a shame they cannot fly. F35 and Typhoon you can keep.
@vbnmvvbnmv2546
@vbnmvvbnmv2546 3 жыл бұрын
Zvm
@vbnmvvbnmv2546
@vbnmvvbnmv2546 3 жыл бұрын
.
@NielsHeusinkveld
@NielsHeusinkveld 6 ай бұрын
If you watch this video often enough, eventually they take off!
@rogerarnold7262
@rogerarnold7262 2 жыл бұрын
I miss Brunti
@dave41184
@dave41184 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video and the twilight makes it even more dramatic!
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave it was certainly dramatic being there!
@ianmangham4570
@ianmangham4570 3 жыл бұрын
I use to love watching the lightning at raf Finningley in the 70s 80s, the noise a half dozen if these make is unreal 😅
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
I bet! Wish I'd witnessed that.
@ianmangham4570
@ianmangham4570 3 жыл бұрын
@@michellemiddleton2569 Great days, the sr71 was supposed to show but never came, plenty of f4 phantoms and saab draken, always remember pedalling there on my racer and out the corner of my eye i could see some massive black object, a B52 in the sky, just got there to see a low pass with full water injection balls to the wall power 😂💪😎 those were the days, you could sit in War birds and walk through Galaxy C5s with the nose and tail gate open, they use to fly over the crowds before all the health and safety came in.
@SaxJockey
@SaxJockey 3 жыл бұрын
Went to the final lightning display at RAF Binbrook in 1987. They were all over the sky, phenomenal. The weather was atroshious, they had to keep fairly low; photography was a bit of a challenge. These is a vid on here (see Joluqa Malta).
@ianmangham4570
@ianmangham4570 3 жыл бұрын
@@SaxJockey I'll have seen it, I've seen every video on here with the eel lolz, my favourite interceptor then it's the Foxbat 👍🇬🇧💪
@donk1822
@donk1822 3 жыл бұрын
I would wager there is very little fuel in those beauties, if there was, the temptation would probably be too much.
@Spookieham
@Spookieham 3 жыл бұрын
A few years a preserved Victor on a test run took off for a few hundred yards before the pilot could plant it again. CAA were distinctly unhappy about it. The old girl just wanted to fly one more time.
@owensmith7530
@owensmith7530 3 жыл бұрын
The co-pilot froze, he didn't close the throttles when told to. Pilot had to take hands off the control column, close throttles, by which time aircraft was airborne but at a silly angle, pilot then had to land it. There's a youtube video where the pilot explains exactly what happened, look for "Last flight of the Victor".
@markwilson9935
@markwilson9935 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldnt be able to resist the urge to...... TAKE OFF !!!!!!
@simonwootten5821
@simonwootten5821 3 жыл бұрын
Very, very cool. Thank you. Enjoyed this.
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for your comment :-)
@jonathanledger1440
@jonathanledger1440 Ай бұрын
Ah yes, I remember it well!❤
@renekuhn2116
@renekuhn2116 3 жыл бұрын
would love to see these fly again at Biggin Hill and Bournemouth even for a once off
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
It won't ever happen unfortunatley
@KK_on_KK
@KK_on_KK 3 жыл бұрын
@@michellemiddleton2569 why not?
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
@@KK_on_KK Lots of reasons but mainly the CAA won't allow it
@owensmith7530
@owensmith7530 3 жыл бұрын
@@michellemiddleton2569 CAA won't allow it because the Lightning was unreliable and quite dangerous in RAF service, so there is no proven safety case. There was a joke about RAF Dogger Bank being a Lightning base, because there were more ditched there in the shallow waters than were at any actual RAF base. Compare this to the Vulcan B2 with Olympus 201 engines which had very good reliability and safety in RAF use so a CAA case was able to be made for that configuration.
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks @@owensmith7530
@cornbread83
@cornbread83 10 ай бұрын
That was incredible. Are there any airworthy examples left? I think I remember some South African billionaire has/had one.
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 8 ай бұрын
Yes they have been sold recently, not sure who to though...
@petercdowney
@petercdowney 2 жыл бұрын
3:21 is what you're all here for.
@barbaradyson6951
@barbaradyson6951 3 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to put these lightening against a modern fighter and see how they compared. Somehow think they would hold there own.
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think so as technology has advanced so much since then. There are 3 computers in the typhoon plus a pilot!
@cjguy7111
@cjguy7111 2 жыл бұрын
A lightening is around 60 years of age at a guess...and am going to take a punt...i bet it could still give these young typhoons...a run for their money in a cold start to 60,000ft+ race...many a good tune played on an old fiddle...they dont make them like this anymore 😪
@jamesmckenzie295
@jamesmckenzie295 Жыл бұрын
Are these aircraft still there and operational As this was 2019 !
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 Жыл бұрын
Yes they are! Although the runway is not is use now but you can get close up to static engine runs with reheat ⚡🔥 🔥
@andybennett5570
@andybennett5570 3 жыл бұрын
Great film photography of a well choreographed demo of all that is good about the Lightning aircraft based at Bruntingthorpe. So sad that the aircraft no longer have access to the runway.
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andy, yes agreed I'm just glad we were able to capture the last use of the runway by the lightnings.
@owensmith7530
@owensmith7530 3 жыл бұрын
Why do they no longer have access to the runway? That's tragic. What about the Victor Teasin' Tina, can she still use the runway?
@owensmith7530
@owensmith7530 3 жыл бұрын
I've just spent the last hour reading the terrible news about Bruntingthorpe, which I missed during covid. Incredibly sad, more British heritage destroyed in the name of profit. It almost (but not quite) makes XH558's situation look not so bad (I note fast taxi opportunities were promised by Doncaster airport, which predictably never materialised). What no-one has said is why C. Walton company was sold, I mean no-one held a gun to their heads and forced them to sell.
@andybennett5570
@andybennett5570 3 жыл бұрын
For news surrounding the closure of Bruntingthorpe airfield as an aircraft museum please refer to the Lightning Preservation Group's website.
@scudger99
@scudger99 3 жыл бұрын
3:22 Those dudes are standing so close to the runway that the exhaust plume would have singed their facial hair off. I would pay to be in their position, quite happily.
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
Haha! The perks of being on the crew
@scudger99
@scudger99 3 жыл бұрын
@@michellemiddleton2569 Damned right. What a buzz that would be.
@Antient.Briton
@Antient.Briton 7 ай бұрын
There were many takeoffs like this at RAF Akrotiri when the Turks invaded Cyprus in 1974.
@martinbayliss3868
@martinbayliss3868 7 ай бұрын
When the RAF adopt these for the historic flight and fly one alternately every year, indefinitely, like their Spitfires and Hurricanes we will know all is right with the country.
@deepthought3316
@deepthought3316 3 жыл бұрын
Considering the amount of time they spent taxiing around, they would have run out of fuel before getting airborne
@davidpeters6536
@davidpeters6536 3 жыл бұрын
Afterburners ate all the fuel.
@TrueFilter
@TrueFilter 3 ай бұрын
Are there any more of these planned?
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 2 ай бұрын
They no longer have access to the runway sadly but do static engine runs with reheat occasionally for the public. www.lightnings.org.uk
@kingoftadpoles
@kingoftadpoles 3 жыл бұрын
Can I have the volume up to 11 please?
@andyoz1168
@andyoz1168 2 жыл бұрын
A real shame not to see it in the air?!
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it is but this is the next best thing!
@HIGGI6
@HIGGI6 3 жыл бұрын
They are allowed to taxi those Lightnings in full afterburner but not to fly them? I don`t get it?!
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
CAA won't allow flights
@davidkartwright9003
@davidkartwright9003 3 жыл бұрын
Is it safe for this jet to fly during the third trimester? (it looks pregnant)
@Radio478
@Radio478 3 жыл бұрын
We made the best in the world
@franztrierweiler5911
@franztrierweiler5911 3 жыл бұрын
Do not speak too fast.
@claudebylion9932
@claudebylion9932 3 жыл бұрын
@@franztrierweiler5911 we made the best in the world and still can if it wasn't for politicians.
@jkoysza1
@jkoysza1 3 жыл бұрын
@@claudebylion9932 OK Claude. So where does the money go if not in building, flying and maintaining the British best? You want that comfortable socialism with NHS and various benefits for the unemployed. As a result your magnificent Lightnings are reduced to mere taxi runs at airshows. Sad indeed.
@Andyc351
@Andyc351 3 жыл бұрын
Doubt this will happen again.
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
Never say never...
@Radio478
@Radio478 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for saving this
@dryflyman7121
@dryflyman7121 3 жыл бұрын
When I travelled from Derbyshire to Rutland Water, down the A1, to go fishing, there used to be a Lightening in a scrap yard near North Muskham . Late 80’s early 90’s. Just rotted away and got covered in graffiti. Very sad indeed.
@andyfield6854
@andyfield6854 3 жыл бұрын
It was there 10 years ago,dont know about now
@dryflyman7121
@dryflyman7121 3 жыл бұрын
@@andyfield6854 thanks Andy. No, it’s all gone now. Very sad.
@owensmith7530
@owensmith7530 3 жыл бұрын
I've been driving up and down that stretch of the A1 several times a year since 1984. I always used to look out for the Lightning and what state it was in. It's been gone completely for quite a few years now.
@michaelmumby2328
@michaelmumby2328 3 жыл бұрын
Front end and cockpit are now at Binbrook. I saw it there a couple of years ago sat outside the old guardroom.
@SS-sh6ww
@SS-sh6ww 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like the Aircraft has a Beer problem... GOD that underbelly ! LOL
@claudebylion9932
@claudebylion9932 3 жыл бұрын
Extra fuel tank.
@1tonyboat
@1tonyboat 2 жыл бұрын
fitted many a ventral tank when i was on 1110sqn.......
@stableianF1oracle
@stableianF1oracle 3 жыл бұрын
They didn’t seem to fly very high ...
@zandex1449
@zandex1449 3 жыл бұрын
Why does the lightning not fly at airshows any more in the UK?
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
The CAA won't allow it
@ikodashiigo
@ikodashiigo 3 жыл бұрын
@@michellemiddleton2569 Hi, I'm just wondering why they will not allow flights anymore, as well as if there are any airworthy Lightnings left. Searched through Google but it's all a bit outdated thanks!
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
@@ikodashiigo I'm not sure of the details but I believe the lightning is classed as a complex aircraft and has a chequered history from a safety point of view. The unique design of stacking one engine on top of another probably has something to do with it - fuel leaks from the top engine to the bottom were the cause of many fires! There are currently no airworthy lightnings left, the lastest to fly were based in South Africa at 'Thunder City' but a fatal accident halted that along with the death of the Owner Mike Beachy Head. The Anglo American Lightning Organisation are working towards getting a lightning airworthy at Stennis Airport in America - so they are ones to watch for the future. Hope that helps!
@ikodashiigo
@ikodashiigo 3 жыл бұрын
@@michellemiddleton2569 Ah seeing a Lightning airworthy would be a dream come true to me, never had the chance to see them flying! There is also a lightning at RAF Binbrook designated XR724. It's being restored to running condition, although I can't remember the parameters of what that means. Thanks for replying!
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
@@ikodashiigo No problem. I would love to see one flying too! I presume they will do static engine runs on 724 but it has been over 10 years since that last happened I believe.
@williamwallace5857
@williamwallace5857 3 жыл бұрын
Why didn't they just keep the Lightning in service ?
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
It's 1950s technology
@williamwallace5857
@williamwallace5857 3 жыл бұрын
@@michellemiddleton2569 Upgrade ?
@michellemiddleton2569
@michellemiddleton2569 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamwallace5857 Designs move on I guess
@williamwallace5857
@williamwallace5857 3 жыл бұрын
@@michellemiddleton2569 Yeah, I was just lamenting I guess.
@Radio478
@Radio478 3 жыл бұрын
I was at Biggin Hill airshow in late 70s, the first aircraft was EE lightning, came out of the valley at around 700+ miles an hour, almost breaking sound barrier, commentary said pilot would get a ticking off. lol.
@abrahamringo4285
@abrahamringo4285 Жыл бұрын
Bro there WAS crashed airliner at 0:00
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