Former Band Kid Tries Duolingo Music!

[@ShadowDancer1000]

Video summarized in one sentence: watching a former band kid learn what a treble clef is

[@twinfettuccine]

real and true

[@jonathantitterton9455]

Hang on, don’t US Bands use Treble Clef? Here in the UK Treble is the common clef while Bass isn’t as common.

[@ShadowDancer1000]

@@jonathantitterton9455 they do but it’s a band kid so anything is possible Btw is it true you guys say demisemiquaver and crotchet? We learned about it in music theory and thought it was super funny

[@jonathantitterton9455]

@@ShadowDancer1000 yep, we do. It’s part of our musical tuition as we could go into an Orchestra, a Wind Band (which is the set up of the majority of Military Bands here) or a Brass Band. I personally am in a Brass Band and have been playing Brass for 9 years.

[@ShadowDancer1000]

@@jonathantitterton9455 hah semibreve

[@8monday0110]

Duolingo music would make sense maybe if it was teaching theory, then I could get behind that. It seems unrealistic to teach an instrument without physically having that instrument in your hand. But teaching theory could maybe be done online?

[@twinfettuccine]

yeah that's a good point! I could see this as a learning aid for when kids are just starting out, especially to practice sight reading!

[@Kebnekaise.]

it’s intended to be a music learning course that doesen’t require you to have a physical instrument, so it’s kind of the best they can do They could add a feature where you could connect a MIDI keyboard (which would improve everything) but for now it’s pretty good for a free music course

[@SpaceHitlerFrieza]

They should've done history or art

[@SimplyCody]

The clef you didn’t know is known as an alto clef, a C clef, or simply just the viola clef! As a violist, I would know.

[@toxiboi5771]

I would just call it the Alto Clef. Calling C clef isn't specific enough cause Another C clef that is used a lot exists. Tenor Clef. Then calling it the Viola clef isn't fully accurate cause the trombone uses it quite often in orchestral music.

[@SimplyCody]

@@toxiboi5771 I call it the alto clef as well

[@azelmamortlake4471]

Yeah, I love alto clef! To me, it makes the most sense as a clef, despite having learned treble and bass clef first, because middle C is in the middle.

[@liakitty3210]

i use alto clef more than c clef(i also played viola for 4 years) but i hate reading ledger lines cuz they throw me off in the pitch of the note. usually really high notes like a5 would be a ledger line but in alto clef, b4 is already a ledger line so yeah i guess im just not used to it(before i played viola i also did violin and ive been playing piano for the longest time)

[@LemonLoafEucharist]

@@toxiboi5771they were just giving other names it’s commonly called, bro. Humble yourself dawg

[@Ghi102]

Weird, I was expecting they would go into music theory, where I could see the app shine.

[@Milyramos]

Duolingo: Spanish or vanish Duolingo music: piano keys or I break your knees

[@alexhollinghurst3945]

Duolingo maths: sums or your lungs

[@thebirdwillkillyou]

​@@alexhollinghurst3945division or no vision

[@vitalijstepanov7969]

duolingo abc: abcdefg duolingo is chasing me

[@Premature_Beagle]

Guys duolingo gave me knee surgery tmr

[@CxR14]

Piano or you get a diminuendo

[@magicmusic231]

As someone who did band through middle school, high school, and now college I really want to try and speedrun this lol

[@twinfettuccine]

dude you would probably crush this!

[@1Legofilms]

I played piano for 11 years and even after unlocking the last level right away, it still took me a month to 3 star all the songs. The keyboard moving around was part of it. The other thing was they hold you to their version of the song, regardless of how the song is actually played. Ex, battle hymn of the republic is usually swung, but their version is straight and took some getting used to

[@link-so9wn]

You don’t know any music theory

[@nyxiedoodle]

@@link-so9wnhow do you know :3

[@RmationYT]

guys my uncle works at duolingo thats how i predicted it

[@nikandvanjikingteams]

Liar

[@williemacon30]

So does that mean you know when anything new comes out and what does he do

[@PDD555]

Do you know if duolingo art is coming next?

[@RmationYT]

@@PDD555 no but duolingo rizz tips is coming tho

[@Thedogfell]

Duolingo music was announced months/ a year ago, nothing super new dude 😂

[@p.brooke]

This might help you read music, but I can't see this actually helping anybody with anything else. Like you said, it's more like a rythm game than anything. It's a great idea but not the best execution, imo Edit: Just got to the end and we literally just said the same thing lmao. Glad to see another duo video tho!

[@Brun1x]

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[@robinbaylor2672]

If you need it, a lot of the early levels look like they would be good ear training. (Honest, for some people, arranging notes from lowest to highest is not trivial.) No, this isn’t much good for learning any real instrument, but you might learn enough bout reading music to use apps like MuseScore.

[@robingrimm3443]

Amusingly enough I think I’m the exact target demographic as someone who remembers how to play piano from middle school but not read music, as I need to relearn what sheet music is but am still rocking that keyboard hand position lol

[@Light.Of.Kshahrewar2.0]

I think it’s mostly for learning to read sheet music and where each note is located. Also it is kinda fun as a rhythm game ngl

[@SuperDestroyerFox]

@@Light.Of.Kshahrewar2.0 I also think that you could learn positions of notes better so you don't have to write them down or always do the tricks to remember note order.

[@henereye]

Congrats on accidentally inventing jazz, looking forward to new music innovations 👍

[@Brun1x]

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[@ThatOneSaltyFilipino]

oh hi there henryeye, popularily known as the flag guy but doing more niche stuff

[@Cheesyto3s]

“The violin cleft that I can’t remember the name of.” As a viola player, NO. NOT VIOLIN, STOP. 😭

[@imsomeonesomewheresomehow]

EXACTLY

[@tracystapleton-chagdes3881]

VIOLA PLAYERS UNITE

[@kylegreen8581]

I *just* discovered your channel after looking up pasta tier lists and you just posted this--which is of interest to me. Subbed.

[@FellowInterneter]

Why did I you- never mind.

[@Brun1x]

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[@FyreWolfMusic]

I would never use this to teach somebody music, I'd say this also reflects on how poorly the language learning is structured. The fact that the lessons jump straight from "here's what notes sound like" to "here's a full staff with all of this shit you've never seen before" is fact enough that the way the Duolingo considers how to teach an entire subject is kind of wanting. This has also applied to my language learning experience on the app, where it will just show you a concept without actually teaching you what it means. I speak Spanish natively, and when a friend was doing some Duolingo Spanish, I wanted to help him out. Duolingo had introduced verb conjugations, but it never said how to fucking conjugate a verb or even WHAT PRONOUNS SPANISH HAS! That's not even getting into the fucking awful way Duolingo wants the user to answer questions, because it's fucking awful in both music and language, because both are not the type of thing that a fucking app can teach. I haven't looked at Duolingo Math, but I'd imagine it being much better at actually teaching it because it seems like the Duolingo team sees all complex problems as "reducible to its fundamental components" like they're NFT bros. On re-reading this comment I should probably just make a rant video at this point.

[@twinfettuccine]

Here's a microphone: 🎤 Say it louder for the people in the back because YOU ARE SO RIGHT!! They need lessons or something to make this easier to understand for beginners!

[@Moocow2003]

Right?? Duolingo is fine for vocab but does not teach sentence structure or verb conjugations which is just.. how are you going to speak to someone in their language if you can't string together a sentence?

[@pauloangeloviegas575]

Holy Balls!

[@niuniujunwashere]

and let's not forget how you get scored for pitch and rhythm! as if the point of music is to "score high" in some sort of metrics! and i thought i wouldn't see something get just as wrong about music as the piano dramas twoset roasted...

[@DanksterPaws]

I would like to humbly offer a countering experience. I am trying to learn Spanish, and the app DID teach me how to conjugate verbs upon showing me them. You have to click on the little notes icon on the top of the unit. It also usually gives you a few introductory lessons on how verb conjugation works (fill in the tables) and getting them wrong does NOT cost hearts. Plus it tells you how they act as suffixes, by making the conjugations appear as torn parts of the word, and you have to match them. Duolingo gave me enough of a foundation that I could start reading Webtoon Spanish Comics with ease. Which really accelerated my learning, try to find media for your language that you enjoy!! It can take time, I tried watching Bluey in Spanish before that, and it didn’t work out. Maybe when I get better. Infact I would like to counter the idea that duolingo is a “vocabulary app” no, to me it is NOT efficient for vocabulary, but more for grammar. Infact thats a good thing, because SO MANY other language apps simply throw you words and phrases to memorize, (such as Drops). Even then aren’t exactly very good, since if you’ve gotten far you’ll realize is more about matching pictures to memory than actual vocab. Which silhouette was the pigeon supposed to be again??? To sum, Duolingo is a SOLID language learning app. No other app can COMPARE, except for those apps that are made specifically to teach certain languages. I would not recommend Duolingo to learn Chinese for example. Though if you can mix Duolingo with other tools and media and find the time for them, then go for it!! As many have said for a very long time already, Duolingo was not supposed to be the SOLE teacher, it does a good job nonetheless.

[@parad0x200]

As a bass guitar and viola player I totally didn’t struggle on skipping through all of duolingo music because I can’t read treble clef. I mean. I can totally read treble clef! Edit: just got to the alto clef part and I am SOBBING

[@link-so9wn]

Bro doesn’t know the easiest clef💀

[@petragames6153]

@@link-so9wncause it’s not their clef wdym

[@Cheesyto3s]

I’m a viola player too. For some reason it was easy for me to learn alto clef. Even after 4 months of ACTUAL piano lessons I still didn’t know how to read treble or bass 🤦‍♀️

[@fke.official]

How long have you’ve been playing viola? Because higher level viola pieces always have treble clef parts.

[@fke.official]

@@petragames6153Viola also uses treble clef

[@StaceyLuvsSnom]

Kinda wish this would be more like simply piano, like it would listen to you play on a keyboard instead of bottons

[@vansad28]

Yeah there could be a listening option or something

[@ekoz2006]

@@vansad28 they did say they might add it eventually!!

[@mrs.samuel.L.jackson]

​@@ekoz2006 'might' 'eventually' hmm dosent seem like good odds for us

[@ch3rrie_bl0ssom]

Love how duolingo straight up turned into a rhythm game

[@TrashAnimationsIMade]

3:03 Violin uses treble clef, this is the alto clef and Viola uses it.

[@jayyla]

I know like its not a class but I really wish it was. For languages like spanish (which I learn on the side of my class in school) it can actually teach you (sometimes) why the answer is the way it is. For music it teaches you NOTHING about the actual value of the note, the time signature, or the clef. It asks you at some point to tell you the time signature with eighth notes, but what if I didn't know the value of an eighth note. As far as Im concerned (I haven't gotten very far ) it doesn't teach you any other note values except for the basics and I struggle beyond the basics for sight reading. It's kind of annoying and that's really my complaint about duolingo music. It's basically a game that you can just do on piano tiles atp

[@twinfettuccine]

That's a good point! Hopefully they will add better lessons in the future because right now it's difficult to pick up if you're starting from the beginning.

[@OneOnlyAnd]

@@twinfettuccineyou have to just practice andtry not to tense up to much. i could tell in the video that your hands were probably shaking too much and tensely. that’s probably why you seemed to be pounding the notes too early 😅

[@kohboo]

YeS!!!! finally, i was looking forward for this video! edit: THE ABE MENTION!

[@Brun1x]

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[@Oceanwaves-d8l]

1:29 Oh gosh, memories of people frantically buying phones with Flappy Bird on it

[@zoeysavino709]

As a french horn and piano player myself, I can confirm that Duolingo music is the most difficult out of all the Duolingo's

[@Emmetton]

Duolingo Music has taken over lol, I use it all the time now! So thanks for doing our requests! I was waiting, so true dedication!

[@JC20XX]

3:49 after gradually going through the lessons without skipping ahead I finally am grasping residing music without internally thinking of these.

[@clayja]

calling alto clef the violin clef is painful 😔 viola representation

[@NoCaffeine4Me]

Finally, there is a Duolingo original song on Duolingo Music! The song is called "Bring my Parents Back"🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@rilynnmiller]

I play the violin and we don't use the clef at 3:04. We use a treble clef, I think that clef is a viola clef.

[@bertramwinkleofficial]

alto clef

[@Brun1x]

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[@Manny73211]

alto

[@twinfettuccine]

my bad y'all 😭

[@rilynnmiller]

@twinfettuccine OH MY GOD, HEY GURL!!! Also, your totally fine 🙂

[@Vampire_sugarrush-rp3nz]

I could play hot cross buns with my eyes closed (I'm in orchestra), maybe ode to joy too idk lol

[@Vampire_sugarrush-rp3nz]

Lol also I'm learning star spangled banner in choir

[@Brun1x]

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[@TripCawthon]

9:19 THE HALF NOTE SHOULD BE A "G" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TripCawthon]

duo was wrong, she was right!!!

[@Unknown_Dev_YT]

You can remember treble clef lines by remembering EGBDF stands for every good buger deserves fries

[@Brun1x]

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[@twinfettuccine]

Oooo I like that one!

[@Beans_Are_Tasty]

when i was learning guitar, they taught us "every guitarist begins doing fine"

[@RafaCB0987]

The Owl gets stronger, one lesson at time

[@Brun1x]

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[@HamSandwich-wp4jt]

"Are we in the violin clef that I can't remember the name of?" Viola players:

[@jacob4448]

I need to try this as a violist LOL

[@Brun1x]

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[@SimplyCody]

WAIT YOU’RE A VIOLIST TOO!?

[@julianap6782]

REAL

[@internetjunky4327]

you're not supposed to do it with one finger, you're supposed to put your whole hand on it like on the piano. Also it's supposed to be just a music reading course, not piano, so I think for that they're pretty good!

[@alexhollinghurst3945]

We don't have Maths or Music in the UK yet, so this was pretty interesting to find out what the fuss about Music is!

[@taha_4656]

Omg sick new pfp

[@twinfettuccine]

thanks man!!

[@emiliomeregalli2858]

this is insane, i opened the video, i paused and tryed myself and we did literally the same exact things, as soon as the first lesson ended straight for the 69 just to fail it once and pass it the next try lol

[@twinfettuccine]

our brains were really on the same wavelength!

[@TamasVarga-VatartPhoto]

Duolingo should enable midi/piano keyboard integration. I love the app by the way

[@GoofyVideoRideo]

3:03 hurt me as a viola player

[@MauWiiMausam]

The lessons before the songs prepare you for the song.

[@Mar.Folklore]

Kinda wish that they did asl next, been waiting forever to be honest

[@TJ-hg6op]

Just jumped to unit 69 and it was literally simple music stuff jeez I feel bad for people actually going through it one at a time. Probably because I just know a lot of music stuff, but I really thought it would be a bit more complex especially for the final unit.

[@suncrusher.]

Honestly, it isn’t just you. I’ve only been in band for about a year and the only part I’d probably have trouble with is the various clefs, because I play percussion. Duolingo is just a bad language and music learning app in general.

[@TJ-hg6op]

@@suncrusher. It has definitely helped me with language stuff because it goes far more in depth than the math and music could ever, and this is due to a lot of learning a language being just a ton of vocab you need to learn. Though I also play percussion and I have had to learn how to play both main clefs since I am primarily mallets lol. Literally all the information in all of those units in the skip test was literally all stuff I learned in the first week of middle school introduction band.

[@mr.swedishfish12]

"the violin clef that I don't remember what the name is" is a viola clef called alto clef LMAO (and there's also tenor that looks exactly the same but placed differently on the staff, used by cellos and some other instruments), violins use treble clef

[@atifsworkshop8705]

3:01 it's alto clef and the viola plays it!!!

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[@CGBOOM_]

WOOO YEAH IT’S HERE!!!

[@aira4324]

As an pianist, you are a successful musician

[@kevmocheeks]

Wait as a Gran Turismo fan I love that their music is in your videos!

[@twinfettuccine]

Ooo I'm glad you caught that! I love Gran Turismo sm 😭✨

[@Ducklover-nj7kv]

Fyi, this clef is actually for violas not violins 3:02 Sorry 😂

[@wryt19]

As a trumpet section squad leader, I’d definitely like to try this app out to see if it helps me improve my skills

[@lucafan5003]

I recommend to compare the two versions of duolingo math. There are more differences than you think.

[@Brun1x]

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[@twinfettuccine]

Ooo interesting, I'll keep it in mind! 👀

[@Michelle-og7et]

We had ode to joy and simple gifts in our marching band show this year!!

[@ThompsonStudios]

It’s alto/tenor clef! It’s used fully by violas and sometimes by trombones. The center of it is middle c and on tenor it is moved up one line

[@ST1PHBL4NK3T21]

I'm a trumpet play started in 5th grade now in 8th and i was in first chair every year does marching band and jazz band did solo and ensemble every year and honors band. I'm not saying I'm a band kid but I'm pretty sure I'm a band kid

[@randomnore]

I like how twin fettuccine has just become the "Duolingo person".

[@twinfettuccine]

this is my life now 🤷

[@Beans_Are_Tasty]

lol@@twinfettuccine

[@bertramwinkleofficial]

it’s literally simply piano but with only treble clef

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[@cjsworld4341]

3:02 HOW DARE YOU CALL ALTO CLEF A VIOLIN CLEF 😭 I am a hurt member of the viola section

[@noobytatsuya6414]

it hurt my soul when she went violin clef and she put alto clef...

[@LoraCoggins]

I do not like that the songs don't use the actual melody. The hot cross buns melody goes "E D C [rest] E D C [rest] CCCCDDDDE D C". And why did they decide to have the fourth note in "Star Spangled Banner" be F# instead of A like it's supposed to be?? Don't tell me there's copyright issues on a two hundred-year-old song. This isn't teaching kids how to play correctly, and the autism is fuming.

[@twinfettuccine]

BRO I DON'T REMEMBER IF I SAID IT IN THE VIDEO BUT I'M SO GLAD SOMEONE AGREES!!! It was actually so frustrating that I was playing a countermelody(?) or harmony(?) or whatever instead of the main line of the song. It made the app 100 times more difficult, imo!

[@AzizAziz-fw5dm]

I genuinely need another speedrun random language from u

[@thatparaf1nn_kid]

The "violin clef" is actually a viola (the only frickin instrument to use it) clef! It's called alto clef, and middle c is the middle line, where b would be in treble.

[@elysia.jackson]

i was expecting a lot more generalized music theory but it's just a piano learning course? and not even one where you can use an actual piano. i dont see how this is going to be helpful to anyone

[@XenaAndKin]

Boiled down, this just helps complete new people to music learn what the notes are. That is it, not even learning an instrument. It’s a gamified vocabulary learning app that teaches the equivalent of an alphabet for musicians. While it is really simple and basic, it’s still useful to introduce people to music in a way that is free, easy access and fun. I see a lot of musicians rightfully shit on Duolingo music because it promotes something that it simply isn’t, teaching you music. It’s teaching you abc. But said musicians kinda forget that not everyone can read sheet music? Hell not even some musicians can read sheet music.

[@yasminh]

ive been playing piano since I was 3 years old and I struggle with this 😭

[@Jayeon.morph0]

I play piano and i suck at reading sheet music cause i rely so much on my ears. And apparently i have to try out for piano this year for band. So im using duolingo to fix my issue of i cant read sheet music anymore

[@Nab614]

So you're telling me duolingo has a built-in rhythm game now? *downloads duolingo*

[@kscvrbx]

3:00 it is alto clef c:

[@Kaiskullster]

My ad was Duolingo after watching the video-

[@gamertime9721]

Duolingo cookbook?

[@joshuahall996]

Congrats! You learned how to play jazz!

[@DaughterOfMaat]

After watching this, now I kinda want to see your reaction of first doing the lesson “prepare for (song title here)” before doing the song(s) 😁

[@twinfettuccine]

THERE'S LESSONS TO PREPARE? THAT MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE!!

[@DaughterOfMaat]

@@twinfettuccine Yes, there is 😁 It’s usually the lesson before the song, but after the “theory” lesson. Of course, the lesson spread out may differ slightly between units. However, I think the pattern of “lesson to prepare for song” followed by said song seemed to be consistent.

[@ttblox4750]

as a viola who uses the alto clef, the violin clef that you don't remember the name of, im silently crying 😭

[@Ubiyciron]

Your videos always so cute!

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[@Kikicat_Plays]

3:01 sad me... its not the violin clef... Violins play the treble clef, and violas play the alto clef

[@Oceloto999]

If a music app is trying to teach you how to play music without an instrument, it is NOT going to work. Unless it’s teaching you to sing of course

[@kelvinxyz]

3:01 its alto cleff used by viola 😭

[@rashmierram2826]

I said it earlier🙄

[@Lexiphy]

I used this video to practice double bass on drums, thank you!

[@mateosmol-d2k]

Still isnt on android 😭

[@YuniTheRobloxian]

As a current band student time to go use this app

[@veroniquebellamy4741]

I think one thing they need to implement is the ability to use MIDI input so you can play your own instrument to the lesson.

[@AydenTheInsane]

where do you find duolingo music it's not on pc web

[@niuniujunwashere]

can i just say how i find it absurdly funny how they go out of their way to avoid accidentals XD (like in star spangled banner where there should be a sharp 4)

[@animator8555]

the one major problem that i have with duolingo music is that it isn't explained well, if at all. if it was explained better, maybe i'd try it more often.

[@JayceAndViktorsKid]

As a double bass player, I sobbed that I didn’t start at a bass clef

[@TuesdaysArt]

As someone who can't read music, I'd appreciate having a FACE thing for the lines and spaces. Trying to determine which notes are slightly higher up than the others on my phone screen is difficult. Why can't they have something to differentiate them?

[@ZombieInTheVoid]

They should add instruments in the music other then piano

[@Fooioodie]

I have played piano for over 10 years and tried this. I now make it my mission everyday to speed run the first lesson as fast as possible. So far I have 15 seconds

[@idkk_rylee]

i play trumpet rn! thats so cool :)

[@kaydencewm]

3:00 so much is wrong with this💀 alto clef for viola

[@izzycorn_temmie9493]

Ah, fellow band kid has tried Duolingo music, same here.

[@dyuan]

There are so many better things duolingo could do with music-like actually teach something useful

[@P1NK3LL]

Is there a way to not do the it on the app but add the microphone and play it on my irl piano

[@mutafyanny]

I have bad news... They removed the song: Battle hymn of the republic a few months ago (or years)

[@shieldzup_official]

nice to meet a fellow trumpet player

[@Userman74526]

ol' twin fettucine has became the duolingo guy now

[@malegria9641]

I’m a current band kid and duolingo music makes me want to throw my phone

[@unlabelled_fr0g]

I still don't have it and they dont have any more updates for me 😭

[@luigiproductions7815]

What’s next, Duolingo Science and Duolingo Fishing?

[@twinfettuccine]

DUOLINGO FISHING?!!

[@rashmierram2826]

The 🎻 violin clef she was talking about is the ALTO clef which is used for the VIOLA. VIOLINS use the TREBLE clef

[@archerdogplayz4057]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING 😂

[@cvcubes8578]

If you’re gonna teach music, did you teach you how to play a hoarder note correctly

[@SebPartof2]

As a current band kid this hurts to watch

[@immabanana1613]

At 3:18 when she started playing notes it reminded me of the song ghost by justin bieber. It sthe line that goes, "So if I cant be close to you..."

[@StillTyping128]

3:00 the violin clef? It's the alto clef, the viola clef xD

[@PercyH12]

HOW DO I GET IT RIGHT NOW