I run a Vulcan sprocket (referred to as "compensator eliminators" to amuse non-,mechanics, it's nothing else or different than a sprocket) and quite like it. As other compensators in my fleet age out they will be replaced with sprockets. Compensators effectively act as a solid unit above low RPM. HD are the only make attached to a rather silly idea which inherently has problems. You don't need a compensator as countless earlier HDs including many Ironheads demonstrate. The struggle to get durable compensators reflects that it's a bad idea in the first place.
@dougfresh13413 жыл бұрын
Just for everyones info, there is a middle ground. Darkhorse Crankworks makes a Compensator that has nylon/rubber bushings to absorb the shock. Smoother than a solid gear and better built than HD SE. Installed mine on 2012 EG. Maybe see Kevin Baxter video, "Harley Compensators are Junk". Taps, what kind of clutch assembly is there and is that a Twin Power tensioner?? I get my noise from the manual tensioner I put in. Similar to HD without the spring auto-adjust. Thanks for the video.
@taps_10213 жыл бұрын
Yes I an very aware of what john at DH. I spoke to john when they first released the comp in Daytona . And asked alot of questions about there comp and couldn't get some answers at the time . So we decided to wait and see how they would hold up in the market with bigger hp bikes.. I sub to Kevin Baxter and have watched his series of vids. very informative. I also sub to jeorge bryce at starracing. And have asked him his opinion on drivetrain components. As for my clutch set its oem clutch plates steel and fibers. With the aim variable pressure plate. Thanks for the feedback and questions. I am trying to document my journey with this bike. And possibly help someone avoid or steer them in a direction.
@dougfresh13413 жыл бұрын
@@taps_1021 Thanks for the Sub. I will return. As you can see, I don’t load a lot of vids. When I do, it’s to help other bikers to avoid problems like you do. Keep documenting. My other goal is to produce vids as concise as possible while containing all the pertinent info for the job. I don’t do a lot of rambling. Glad you like Kevin’s posts. You can tell the guys who know what they’re talking about. I got to get some videos completed. Been sitting on ideas. The sky’s the limit. GL with the comp. Darkhorse has a winning product.
@taps_10213 жыл бұрын
@@dougfresh1341 Dh is a great company to deal with. If you look at my profile and look under channels we sub alot of the same channels 😂😂 I was the winner of Shane's H2w giveaway last month . Keep pushing forward 🙏👍
@colemartin94692 жыл бұрын
They dont make them for any bike older than 07 from what I can find. I have been looking everywhere for one for my 2001.
@iginogasparini3369 Жыл бұрын
You don’t need a comp. just put a solid gear on that’s it like the good old days
@danonoveh81142 жыл бұрын
My 07 Softail 96 ci stock comp has 23k on it and it's starting to make noise, so iam definitely installing the eliminator forsure, thank you for this video👍👍👍
@taps_10212 жыл бұрын
I don't think your 07 is a good candidate. 07 were known for having bad cranks . I would stick with a harley SE comp.
@10ampsloblo21 Жыл бұрын
be sure and run at least 38oz of primary oil per manual.
@kennethross3567 Жыл бұрын
Chain looks smooth running
@d_99sd95Ай бұрын
В этой конструкции не хватает успокоителя цепи...
@taps_1021Ай бұрын
It has one. It's in red
@dmystify1381 Жыл бұрын
....in all my years of riding Harleys....i have Never Ever come across the amount of problems that obliterate you-tube...Word.
@user-qc5iq9gu1p4 ай бұрын
I installed the same sprocket but i need that chain tensioner
@HTXJM11 ай бұрын
I just went with the PSR tensioner on my 103ci
@10ampsloblo213 жыл бұрын
No matter what year since the shovel there has been a factory screw up in every harley be it the inner cam bearing to primary chain tensioners
@10ampsloblo21 Жыл бұрын
shovel too bad inner cam bearing bad castings leaky blocks they all have problems
@timbarnett38982 жыл бұрын
This is one I want for my 03' fxdx Dyna! Must check for year availability! Thanks!
@-MrRichBiker1967 Жыл бұрын
I don't know about that in particular one but yes look up BDL compensators for, 03 I have an '05 and they make it with a 24 to getting installed this week. So psyched to get rid of that noisy GD old compensator with the shot spring packs knocking at startup
@75rlaf4 жыл бұрын
ive been using the 34 tooth solid sprocket with the hayden chain tensioner for a couple years with my 124 build and its not that noisy. i was thinking about replacing it with the 32 tooth sprocket to get more lower end torque as well
@taps_10214 жыл бұрын
The 32t will add more bottom end pull. There abit noisy when ran without oil. I am also engaging and dissanganging the clucth
@-MrRichBiker1967 Жыл бұрын
Why don't you go down to a 24th ? I have a 2005 Fatboy and it's a 24 tooth, stock sprocket. I'm going to install the BDL single sprocket compensator but it's going to be a 24 also
@1490cameronglen10 ай бұрын
with a solid sprocket can you downshift coming into a corner to slow down to get in a lower gear,or will it put to much stress on your driveline. I have a 128 with welded crank,chain and beefed up transmission with cut back gears
@johnbeardsley73602 жыл бұрын
sounds more quiet than I thought
@taps_10212 жыл бұрын
Yes they are quiet when set up correctly. But remember there's pros and cons. In my opinion the darkhorse comp is the best compromise at this time .
@ernestpaling5097Ай бұрын
Just found you but what brand is that chain tensioner?
@taps_1021Ай бұрын
It's a twin power .they make one for 32t and 34t sprockets
@2WheelWarrior Жыл бұрын
Just installed a 34 tooth solid sprocket on my 14 street glide. Pretty noisy I left the auto tensioner on and was wondering if it was necessary to put a manual tensioner on it, if that would quiet it down a little bit or not. I thought a auto tensioner would adjust it better on the fly if it got loose
@taps_1021 Жыл бұрын
The auto tensioner is abit noisy vs manual tensioner. The auto tensioner does work well. The manual tensioner needs to be properly adjusted because of the high and low spots in the chain. I would double check chain and sprocket alignment
@-MrRichBiker19673 жыл бұрын
wow...quite. that dose'nt even have the cover, with fluid in yet, either, good job! good choice.i have a 2005 fatboy, will work for mine?
@taps_10213 жыл бұрын
Yes they will work. Another great part is the SE compensator just shimm it a few thousandth for a better lock up. I have ran both with great success. The SE is a wearable item like brake shoes. They need to be replaced . Milage may vary.
@TheStephanejoyal2 жыл бұрын
@taps_1021 are you still running it 2 years later ,any issues? I am about to install mine with the variable pressure clutch as well
@taps_10212 жыл бұрын
No I went back to se comp. With the new t124 build that we did it would be to much torque. With the 32t.
@bullast20462 жыл бұрын
Late to this vid but I see the centrifugal clutch plate.. are you running an aftermarket clutch or stock?
@taps_10212 жыл бұрын
Stock clutch 57k on it now
@damienfrigo47342 жыл бұрын
its like it needs a top tensioner also
@taps_10212 жыл бұрын
The tension can be adjusted tighter. But you have tight and loose spots in your adjustment
@earache2945 ай бұрын
it is no longer a compensator once it is solid as it cannot compensate for engine vibe being solid lol. it is a compensator eliminator lol.
@taps_10215 ай бұрын
Yup you're right
@oleksasirotinin15323 жыл бұрын
does this solid still run well?
@taps_10213 жыл бұрын
I haven't experienced any issues. With a solid. Are there other options yes.
@romesyoutubechannel5356 Жыл бұрын
I need this so bad.
@TheCapitalVice3 жыл бұрын
Hey on this did you leave the spring plates on from the original compensator or did you bolt the sprocket directly next to the stator?
@taps_10213 жыл бұрын
Gets bolted right behind the stator
@TheCapitalVice3 жыл бұрын
@@taps_1021 Sweet thanks! That's what I thought.
@taps_10213 жыл бұрын
@@TheCapitalVice check the dark horse comp. another great product. If your thinking of running a solid
@TheCapitalVice3 жыл бұрын
@@taps_1021 Yeah I checked that one but I wanted to change the gearing as well as weight savings. Im kind of turning my bike into a weekend track bike. Im going to go through the whole thing here soon and put in a darkhorse crank, timkin upgrade, and larger bore cylinders. I havent decided on CI yet but something close to 143 or 151.
@MeanGreen932 жыл бұрын
@@taps_1021 does dark horse make a 32 or 30 tooth ? I’m looking for that more off the line gain but not completely sure I want a solid sprocket
@DoucetteMichael3 жыл бұрын
What primary drive tensioner is that one??
@taps_10213 жыл бұрын
The brand is twin power
@alanr.desouza46184 жыл бұрын
Hello! I'm from Brazil! could the replacement of the compensator for this solid system harm the engine or the gear shaft? Did you notice any negative changes with the system replacement?
@taps_10214 жыл бұрын
I can have negative results depending on how you drive it. And if you have a welded crank. It's best to use screaming eagle compensator and shim it for a better lock up
@adarngoodjoe40432 жыл бұрын
Yes, your transmission can blow up (crack/break gears) if not upgraded to a stronger made transmission. This becomes especially true if you upgrade the engine to output more power and/or convert to a chain drive instead of belt. Traditional final drive belts and compensators reduce the shock to the driveline from sudden power inputs/pulses and therefore increase longevity and reliability.
@greghinchley62773 жыл бұрын
Still quite a bit of chain slap at the top of the sprocket. I'm curious if the Baker Attitude Adjuster manual tensioner would help with that??
@taps_10213 жыл бұрын
In a dyna we have the baker manual tensioner installed. No system will be perfect because of the tight and loose spots when adjusting the tensioner
@thealienufo12 жыл бұрын
There is a manual tensioner in this build.
@VET-jn9lx2 жыл бұрын
Any updates? Looking to upgrade for my 07 RK.
@taps_10212 жыл бұрын
I would go darkhorse or se compensator
@niceguyvince64902 жыл бұрын
@@taps_1021 how many miles did you get out of your solid comp?
@taps_10212 жыл бұрын
@@niceguyvince6490 I ran it for 49k then we did another build and switched to se comp for the time being
@niceguyvince64902 жыл бұрын
@@taps_1021 49k miles is awesome!!!!!!! Beyond impressive. Thank you for the information.
@taps_10212 жыл бұрын
@@niceguyvince6490 if you are aggressive rider go darkhorse or se comp. I am currently running a se comp that we shimmed. 60 thousands for a better lock up. The se is a wear item so it's not gonna last like the darkhorse comp.
@mv74013 жыл бұрын
Did the vibration at idle or riding down the road increase at all??
@taps_10213 жыл бұрын
I didn't encounter that on my bike.
@mv74013 жыл бұрын
I was just wondering. I've heard from a few people it created a little more vibration.
@taps_10213 жыл бұрын
@@mv7401 compensator are a consumable . Your best bet is to use the SE compensator. Will it wear out and get noisy yes. But at the same time solid comps can create other issues. Another great option is the dark horse comp.
@taps_10212 жыл бұрын
@Michael Nelson in my opinion riding style is important and hp output of the build. If your aggressive with the clutch you will break the next weak link in the drive train. If you ride it like you own it. you should be fine.
@dillbill45312 жыл бұрын
How noisy is it when it’s all back together
@taps_10212 жыл бұрын
It's quite like stock
@dillbill45312 жыл бұрын
@@taps_1021 appreciate it bubbA ya just ordered one for my SG hopefully quiets it up and give me a little more Power
@dillbill45312 жыл бұрын
One more question did you notice the power difference any increase of power
@taps_10212 жыл бұрын
There is an increase of tq in the lower end it will make t more responsive. But you will lose top end speed. If you go 32t vs 34t. I know darkhorse cranks has a great product also.
@acastiglione1003 жыл бұрын
What year bike?
@taps_10213 жыл бұрын
15 roadglide
@MrMeatball0524 жыл бұрын
What model/year? It's hard to tell, but it doesn't seem that horrifically loud like everyone says
@taps_10214 жыл бұрын
The bike is a 15 roadglide special. Some people dont like the noise it makes when the clucth is disengaged. In the vid I engage and disengage the clucth. It's a bit hard to tell but you can hear it slightly. My SE comp was starting to clunk at cold starts and I didnt like how it sounded. Hope that helps
@MrMeatball0524 жыл бұрын
@@taps_1021 I'm starting to get clunking when I'm engaging the clutch on my 10 Road King. I'm thinking the comp or the chain tensioner is the issue. Figure I'll replace them both while I've got the primary cracked open. Do you like the ride better with the comp eliminated?
@taps_10214 жыл бұрын
@@MrMeatball052 if I was you I would go SE (screaming eagle comp) one of the reasons why I went solid is because I wanted a gear reduction. My gearing was really tall with my engine build. I wanted more bottom end thru the gears . Finding neutral is easier for me now. I think dennis Kirk had the solid comps for $130 or so. I would have used the stock adjuster. Mine didnt put to much tension on the chain. but since I went 32t I had to use the mechanical adjuster from twin power. I also re used the primary gasket three times. They want you to check it every 5k. Mine hasn't moved since 5k
@MrMeatball0524 жыл бұрын
@@taps_1021 What do you mean buy too tall? And by bottom end I'm assuming you wanted more pull in the lower rpms of each gear? I don't treat my bike like a performance bagger or anything like that. I'm just looking for something that will let the miles roll. I ride it like I bought it, not like I stole it lol
@taps_10214 жыл бұрын
@@MrMeatball052 to tall example . In 6th gear at 80mph my rpms are at 2700. With the 34t . My sweet spot in the power is 3k to 5k with my build. So the 32t raises the rpms by 250 rpms . So now it's at 3k at 80 mph. So at lower speeds around town I dont have to go back and forth between gears I cant lug my engine because of the build . If you like more tq at the lower rpms 32t is the way to go . But if you like the way the gearing is stock stick with the 34t . The shifting is smooth and I cant tell a difference from stock.
@hdlstns4 жыл бұрын
hey, you're leaking oil!
@taps_10214 жыл бұрын
It's a harley 😂
@labeanlabean3 жыл бұрын
If the oil is flowing, it means that there is still oil in the motorcycle
@patrickjordan754711 ай бұрын
What do you think now
@taps_102111 ай бұрын
Well there's pros and cons. While the 32t is very responsive and makes more usable power down low. I prefer my power on the other side of the power curve. Higher rpms. If I had the resources I would bullet proof the whole drive train. I am currently running the oem comp 34t screaming eagle.