I’m going to need some post-🥜 clarity for this one
@sethhibbett6 ай бұрын
Josh’s idea that Harbough would avoid trading out of their pick so another team would take McCarthy makes no sense to me. His job is to make his team better, period.
@seamusmcavey38266 ай бұрын
hasnt he been talking him up too? If anything Harbaugh wants him to be drafted as high as possible since he has some sort of relationship with him and his family as his former coach. Harbaugh wants him to get the bag and be successful to make himself look better as a coach.
@jesusfollower07176 ай бұрын
Colts getting nabers is INSANE
@GagePutman6 ай бұрын
As a Colts fan, I'd lose my shit.
@scottytoohottysmith69916 ай бұрын
Hell will freeze over first before Ballard gives up that draft capital for any player much less a WR. Colts dont draft WR in 1st round
@PeteMD6 ай бұрын
I have AR5 in 4 out of 6 of my dynasty leagues. Let’s gooo
@PeteMD6 ай бұрын
@@scottytoohottysmith6991I do actually agree. More likely they go with a Jermaine Burton or something in round 4
@nonyia176 ай бұрын
I’d cry tears of joy😭😭😭
@ericfischer72656 ай бұрын
A Vote for Josh: I'll admit I usually fall on the Hayden side on who I agree with ......but your mock draft is actually the most convincing one ive seen. Kudos. (As a bears fan I'll be sad to not get odunze even tho he falls, but a trade back for Murphy feels real)
@NMxCrazySkills6 ай бұрын
This was fun especially with the trades! So excited for Thursday to see where the WRs go for bestball!
@alinsvin6 ай бұрын
The worst part of this video is that it was only 90 minutes long
@OffTheSchneidFootball6 ай бұрын
I know you like to connect dots, so he’s what I have: Las Vegas Raiders will trade up and draft JJ McCarthy. Why? 1 - Top 3 talk from Antonio Pierce. 2 - Antonio Pierce was not only the Assistant LB Coach, but MUCH more importantly, the Recruiting Coordinator with the team. 4 - Marvin Lewis was a Special Advisor at this same time. 5 - Not only was JJ McCarthy offered from Arizona State, but he also took a visit to the campus. 6 - His QB coach at Michigan, Kirk Campbell, played for Luke Getsy at West Virginia Wesleyan. 7 - McCarthy called Pierce “a great guy” and “someone I could definitely see myself playing for.” 8 - Former Chargers GM Tom Telesco is now GM of the Raiders. 5th overall, JJ McCarthy to the Raiders
@dereksmidl83526 ай бұрын
The chargers getting Marvin Harrison I would cry…
@jadenjonesminecraft14326 ай бұрын
as a cardinals fan that is not happening
@dereksmidl83526 ай бұрын
@@jadenjonesminecraft1432 please God do not let them lil
@ChewTunes6 ай бұрын
Norris, as it pertains to NE/MIN trade, you think that’s enough compensation to go from 3 to 11? I feel like the Patriots will demand more, especially because the Vikings are a QB away from contending and that 2025 1st could be 20+….just seems like giving up choice of QB, Alt, and probably the top 3 WRs (all positional needs) would require more compensation imo.
@alexanderlawson38986 ай бұрын
Vikings win total is at 6 for next year
@paulino896 ай бұрын
@@alexanderlawson3898 yeah but once they get the QB its gonna go up.
@ChewTunes6 ай бұрын
@@alexanderlawson3898 that will change after the draft and during the early weeks of the season if they hit on QB. You have to factor that into any trade offer. You can’t assume you’re trading with a 6 win team.
@czykrepublic43236 ай бұрын
If the Vikes make Josh Norris' deal, we'll essentially have 1 pick (#3 this year) in the first three rounds over the next two years. I want them to make a move, but I think giving up three firsts to move up 8 spots is too much.
@KFBALL2476 ай бұрын
Especially for a QB that isn’t even a top 20 prospect. Nix is a way better fit in Minnesota than JJ is. He is a great decision maker, extremely smart, gets rid of the ball quick, very accurate, and will be able to get the ball to the Vikings elite receivers and let them cook. Similar to what Kirk Cousins was doing. But way more athletic.
@ericb31866 ай бұрын
There’s no doubt Hayden hits more picks than Josh. I’m not sure Josh will get a pick after Caleb Williams right but I loved listening to them.
@DailyWorkoutMotive6 ай бұрын
Man, the 3/4 trades make so much sense... but I just don't see Cardinals trading out of not getting a blue Chip WR... I know they have a lot of holes... but that's their biggest.
@codythomssen93376 ай бұрын
I like joshs mock, most of them make too much sense and this one take into consideration some gm's just do what they want. Great stuff
@adams5656 ай бұрын
Hey guys, what do you make of the reports the Falcons might be disciplined in the draft for tampering? Mock drafts ruined everywhere?
@Zeffpenguin6 ай бұрын
Reports seem to indicate punishment will be announced after the draft
@adams5656 ай бұрын
@@Zeffpenguin Thanks, just heard that, too. Maybe they'll package their picks for next year to acquire picks this year, LOL.
@BadBart22176 ай бұрын
Josh's mock draft was awesome, the only person I've heard outside of Simms really go outside the box. Really got me thinking.
@jarredscott16446 ай бұрын
Still don’t think the Broncos trade up for QB. I know Payton isn’t patient but I find it much more likely they try to trade down into the 20s (Eagles?), recoup the 2nd round pick, then take CB/DL in round 1 get aggressive in round 2 for Nix
@trevoraugustus22496 ай бұрын
I don’t see the Cardinals passing on these elite WR’s for some future picks either.
@Jamar-lg9ob6 ай бұрын
He never trade down
@peaceasyx6 ай бұрын
I gotta hear about this famous 2021 mock draft
@hillcalder6 ай бұрын
Taking a tackle over MHJ would be 1 foot out of the door for Jim Harbaugh. You can't go in with a 2 WR set of Joshua Palmer and Quentin Johnston or a later rookie. You just can't.
@smurphy988446 ай бұрын
Except, he just won a natty with a run heavy team and got better every season after abandoning the spread... I see your point but OL is far more likely in this case. Coach believes a superbowl goes through the ground
@FantasySportsZen6 ай бұрын
I expect a trade-down and an OL.
@trevorhicks36566 ай бұрын
So glad the NFL lets you guys push the good players and not their hype train players.
@paulino896 ай бұрын
This would the worst scenario if you are New England Patriot fan.
@TJ_Gonser6 ай бұрын
All depends on Mayes development. Which pats won’t help
@paulino896 ай бұрын
@@TJ_Gonser Drake Maye is gonna be star and the Pats will look bad passing him.
@jacksonklark61196 ай бұрын
So you're telling me the vikes will have to give up at least 3 1st for 4 but the broncos will get it done with 2 1st and a 2nd. Most of the broncos picks in 2025 too. Edit: also Sutton who is a wr 2 probably worth a 3rd if diggs is worth a 2025 2nd
@mateusbonorino89916 ай бұрын
You totally missed them including Courtland Sutton as well….
@jacksonklark61196 ай бұрын
@@mateusbonorino8991 You're right I did. Sutton is a fa soon on the older side and a wr 2. He's worth a third at most imo considering what players like Juedy, Ridley and Diggs got traded for in similar situations situations.
@PeteMD6 ай бұрын
As a Niners fan Josh I don not like that you had a bunch of the perfect guys for them go off the board in a row right before. Guyton, Chop, Newton, Verse, D Robinson, Morgan and end them up with a second rate Tackle imo. Not that you’re wrong just 31 is right off the edge of the cliff. 28+- is where the Niners wish they were picking. Hopefully 1-2 more WRs go in the 20s pushing some guys down
@SWWonders6 ай бұрын
Wish you’d have went one more pick since Carolina didn’t have a first Dunno if you guys respond to comments but who would each of y’all have them taking at 33
@dustinstella66566 ай бұрын
The Bills would need Denver to restruture Sutton's contract, which would leave Denver with more deady money, so that would definitely impact what the Bills get back.
@blakegoold69436 ай бұрын
No way we pass on Mitchell for Paul @ 32
@hudsonpowers6 ай бұрын
As a Falcons fan, I would LOVE a trade down. Latu at 11 is a dream. EDIT: Holy shit we got him at 15 too
@Jamar-lg9ob6 ай бұрын
No way lions pick Kool aid over johnny newton trenches first
@joesmith35426 ай бұрын
Vikings fans I think would heavily prefer Jerzhan over Wiggins. And Lewis Cine is the pick that broke his leg. Thanks Hayden for not having us trade it all for JJ, my worst fear
@FadeToZach99826 ай бұрын
"Sean Payton lacks patience." EXACTLY. That's why he doesn't want a rookie QB. He's never drafted one highly or developed one in his 25+ year NFL career. He doesn't trade up to get one in this draft. He continues to build out the team, maybe even trading down for more picks, and then hopes to get a veteran in the near future.
@FadeToZach99826 ай бұрын
If the Titans want Latham, they should trade down
@FadeToZach99826 ай бұрын
Mel Kiper mocks Roger Rosengarten to the Niners at pick 31 also
@leondoughboy83906 ай бұрын
Love what you have Arizona doing. Rome Odunze has been compared to Larry Fitzgerald.
@KingDavid-D376 ай бұрын
LMAO. Vikings might not think Maye has the cleanest throws. But he is the best QB for Justin Jefferson. He relies on Body Control and adjusting and attacking the ball while in the air. Maye has that touch to make all throws into tight placed. McCarthy throws hard line drives with a lot of power. and needs WR that can get separation in open space with a lot of speed. That will be allot tougher in the NFL. Maye is our guy.
@AlanDay3166 ай бұрын
I really don't think the cardinals are going to pass on mhj but crazier things have happened
@nonyia176 ай бұрын
Glad we’re getting lots of trades. The first round has usually 5-8 trades in it. The even get close mfers got to get a little trade crazy
@Joleebindo-6 ай бұрын
I’ve listened to u say “Marvin Harrison Jr pick here for the Giants at #6” 20 times
@brianhammond28326 ай бұрын
In the first mock the Vikings are getting a deal because the drafter knew he wasn’t going to draft JJ to the Giants. In the real world it is not worth the risk to miss out on the quarterback that they covet.
@GeorgesOpinion6 ай бұрын
John was just demeaning Haden’s mock the whole time. Kinda embarrassing, John thinks he knows exactly what’s going to happen
@loutoocold6 ай бұрын
Agreed. The consistent slick comments was wild.
@ClapYaHandsEverybody6 ай бұрын
30:36 please tell me how the eagles needs are WR when they just signed Devonta and AJ 😂
@codystoots16 ай бұрын
JOSH! I acknowledge you.
@VangelVe6 ай бұрын
Interesting. Nice job.
@briannasca30446 ай бұрын
Sutton trade for the Bills is an interesting one, havent't seen that incorporated in mock like this yet. And I applaud you for Verse over Mitchell, that is 100% the right pick and most of Bills mafia has AD Fattigue at this point lol.
@123shoshan6 ай бұрын
That is 100% the wrong choice verse isn’t close to as impactful as AD
@briannasca30446 ай бұрын
@@123shoshan I'd rather take a top 3 edge before that position falls off a cliff than take the maybe "5th best" receiver who has his own red flags in a deep class.
@123shoshan6 ай бұрын
@@briannasca3044 recievers are much more impactful
@chrissnape95376 ай бұрын
I would be happy if Cooper Dejean goes to my Hawks. I would be happier at number 22 and getting 2nd round 53
@nickbushinger43516 ай бұрын
With the packers draft capital, would love to see them move up for Mitchell if he falls to 18
@dtpritch6 ай бұрын
Josh Norris was talking about his mock draft waaaay too much during Hayden's
@JR12sports6 ай бұрын
Harbaugh's gonna trade Herbert and draft JJ.
@KFBALL2476 ай бұрын
0% chance. JJ isn’t even in the same stratosphere as Herbert as far as talent goes. The organization would NEVER go for that.
@FL1PSID36 ай бұрын
Herbert has a no trade clause. The dead cap for trading him year 1 is $150 million. Year 2 over $220 million. He pushing JJ to push his value and for the Chargers to have #1 non QB pick. 🤯
@For_The_Watch6 ай бұрын
Lewis cine was safety for the Vikings that broke his leg
@VaperWare6 ай бұрын
Norris visited Crazytown but it was fun going along for the ride.
@MannyHardaway6 ай бұрын
If Xavier worthy is there at 30, I don’t see a world where the ravens don’t pick him. I also think Bateman is being traded
@brianhammond28326 ай бұрын
The Vikings can keep their 3rd round pick next year. Patriots will take Darrisaw instead
@dereksmidl83526 ай бұрын
Aww maan I don’t hate Paul but Ladd has to be the guy at 32
@blakegoold69436 ай бұрын
AD or Ladd
@123shoshan6 ай бұрын
@@blakegoold6943ad
@marcusstone58356 ай бұрын
@Colts fans. The Falcons will never make that trade.
@dereksmidl83526 ай бұрын
Chiefs should trade up for AD or Ladd if they’re on the board with the lions
@to-tx2sz6 ай бұрын
Josh - vikings trading to 4 would be *at the very least* 11, 23, and a 2025 1 30 seconds later Gives the Broncos 4 for 12 a 25 1 and a 25 2.
@wardog2116 ай бұрын
Latham at 7 as the project tackle instead of Mims? If u want an athlete with high upside Mims definitely fits that way better than Latham. Latham should be a guard.
@kbone29586 ай бұрын
There’s going to be less trades than people thing in the top 10 . Josh is 10000000000% off on his mock draft
@geraldo62056 ай бұрын
RUMOR HAS IT ATLANTA LOST THE PICK FOR TAMPERING, we’ll hear more especially if it’s True.
@burgandybets6 ай бұрын
Over 100k did Josh ever get his vacation?
@Ryn_ryn1236 ай бұрын
This is the Patrick Mahomes effect. Damn magical QB or bust.
@mf_loco51426 ай бұрын
Titans would get Malik Nabers
@gary-pietz41476 ай бұрын
I can't believe this guy passing on Penix What he says about junior is way out there obviously he hasn't watched him play in fact he's moving at the board quickly coaches love him He may go before JJ or Bo Nix.
@thomasarnold80036 ай бұрын
Really dislike the amount of gloating and self-praise that comes from these videos. Comments like “nobody else has so and so going this high” or “we were right about this player last year”, have no place in these discussions and don’t add any value. It’s not nearly as bad as some other channels **cough cough PFF**, but nevertheless it still decreases the quality of the video to me, even though I DO appreciate your guys’ content.
@Bindles906 ай бұрын
Bowers to NE 🤯
@buildabankworkshopsinfinit58176 ай бұрын
JJ as a top 5 NFL QB 😂😂😂😂
@JJ-zr6fu6 ай бұрын
Why in the world would the bears pass on Rome? This draft should be deviated towards making Caleb a success and what’s easier for a qb than always having five guys who on any other would be the first out second option.
@Jamar-lg9ob6 ай бұрын
Because wr deep and not a major need
@123shoshan6 ай бұрын
Rome is a bust
@AverageMED6 ай бұрын
54% of steelers too 30 visits was ot…
@JohnBarickman6 ай бұрын
Thanks. I have been waiting for this!
@ronsaustin6 ай бұрын
If the Eagles Trade up for Mims when Mitchell is still on the board people will lose it. 😂
@codythomssen93376 ай бұрын
I'm a vikings fan and I want drake maybe or stay and pick penix at 23
@jamesjoseph57076 ай бұрын
Chargers wont go WR. Everything coming out Harbaugh's mouth says No. Hes a straight shooter. He wants to run the ball Heavy. Its the Most important goal of his. How you get to a conclusion their tacking a WR is silly. They will trade back or go OL.
@trocknorat6 ай бұрын
Not in a million years would I trade up for JJ McCarthy. lol. Bo Nix is better anyway.
@UrielMartinez-kz1ve6 ай бұрын
Chargers pass on mhj for alt? Immediately turned the pod off. Lol ridiculous. Haydens better by a mile
@MrMmitsch6 ай бұрын
Jayden Daniels will be sacked 100 times if he goes to the commanders. They gotta be gun shy about a qb with zero pocket awareness after last year
@BatmanBoss6 ай бұрын
Thanks guys
@cclouse146 ай бұрын
Fautanu gonna be long gone by pick 20.
@derekfoster14576 ай бұрын
If this is how it goes, what a master class by the falcons. Poach the Vikings qb, and then you’re the team they have to trade with to get a qb
@brianhodgman35426 ай бұрын
Marvin Harrison falling to 6 is just batsh*t crazy...
@trevoraugustus22496 ай бұрын
Agree. Don’t see the Cards passing on MH for some future picks and going all the way back to 12 missing all the elite Wr’s
@coreymalensek6 ай бұрын
If it’s not Maye to NE, LOVE Bowers. Well done Josh.
@Extrasourcream26 ай бұрын
After every player josh makes some snarky comment passive aggressively. So annoying when these are supposed to be fun hypothetical.
@labelfish6 ай бұрын
Josh relentlessly mentions a mock draft he did a few years ago. How many picks did he get right last year?
@JoshandHayden6 ай бұрын
The 1972 Dolphins pop champagne every year
@davonjackson50336 ай бұрын
daniel jeremiahs rankings dont fit with his own player grades lol
@FantasySportsZen6 ай бұрын
Maybe he's taking positional value into account for his rankings but not for his grades.
@glockior17476 ай бұрын
That bears 9th pick is fucking horrible bro u shoulda just traded down for that tackle or got the ucla edge latu
@cfordy19776 ай бұрын
@haydenwinks I’ve been drafting the big board like Nabers is going to the chargers. I hope your right!
@benjaminfrazer-synnott66406 ай бұрын
Dream draft for Carolina panthers!
@orian80116 ай бұрын
Add P. Surtain to that Denver to Az trade then I'm okay with it. Otherwise I'd sit an pick. IMO Az doesnt trade out to 11-13 unless it's 3 1st rd picks.
@ChristianMolina-ys3pv6 ай бұрын
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@ricblic9016 ай бұрын
Does Buffalo have the cap room for Sutton? WR isn't Buffalo's only need. You had Newton and Kool-Aid still available. Plenty of WR's in the second round.
@mmsL1256 ай бұрын
Probably not and I agree they need depth in a lot of spots. Rather take a rookie then trade(other than aiyuk obviously)
@JoshandHayden6 ай бұрын
It’d require the Broncos eating the money, which we do see sometimes in trades. Bills 100% up against the cap. - Winks
@njasicko6 ай бұрын
Bears need a DE, no way they take Murphy. They didn’t even bring him in on a top 30. While I am a bit hesitant to believe Poles trades out of Rome falling to us that pick at 12 would most certainly be a DE.
@vinniehugo90656 ай бұрын
Broncos got Zach now so they’re not taking a QB first round.
@cS144516 ай бұрын
Josh it’s time to retire
@Gabriel-el8kc6 ай бұрын
The idea that someone as competitive and with as much self conviction as Harbaugh would actively hurt his team because of the small odss that McCarthy is better than Herbert is an embarrasingly bad take. If anything Harbaugh would love to send McCarthy to Minnesota which is widely considered the best QB destination. The logic of Harbaugh not trading because he is scared is so bad and exudes so much small dick energy it is laughable. Do better, guys.
@truth4all4276 ай бұрын
I think he read to much into Harbaugh not trading down because he could have had JJ McCarthy Well insert the circumstances that is not possible at all anyway. So I’d do the exact opposite and say he would be doing his old QB a favour by helping him get a top 5 salary and be set. I think bottom line is of Minnesota offers two 1st rounders he has to take it. Harbaughs offenses don’t value Nabers as high as a stud lineman and another great starter Two mid round receivers in this deep of a WR draft is exactly what the Chargers need right now after losing their two starters
@dougrockhold7236 ай бұрын
Harbaugh is a dummy
@FreeNachos6 ай бұрын
If the Rams go Brian Thomas I’m going to lose it
@BestballBrian6 ай бұрын
The Vikings draft capital is incredibly overrated. 11, which is outside of elite prospect territory, and 23, which is outside of “1st round grade” territory. Any future first would project as a mid-1st at best. Patriots would be foolish to move off of 3 for that. If they trade back it would/should be with NYG.
@CazzualNohbody6 ай бұрын
big fat bust on mocks lol shows no one knows nada
@eguwop5166 ай бұрын
The worst 1st round mock I’ve ever seen 😂😂 especially the guy at the top of the screen criticizing every pick😂😂 like damn let the guy do his mock draft
@cw52056 ай бұрын
Hayden needs to stay away from mock drafting for the rest of his life. Unless the video was titled ‘Most UNrealistic Draft’ someone could’ve done better with darts. And I NEVER make comments.