Two More Tailstrikes!! 14 Oct UPDATE

[@leokimvideo]

I'm glad you covered the totally reckless landing crash and takeoff in Australia. It barely made the news here and when it happened the crash went unnoticed in the broadcast. I can only assume the pilot was too busy drilling holes in the swiss cheese to notice he actually crashed.

[@dougrobinson8602]

I can't imagine the Extra pilot not knowing he had smacked that wall good and hard. Taking off after that hit was nuts. He easily could have run into a control surface flutter condition. Glad he's okay, but he has some explaining to do.

[@OddJobFix]

Swiss cheese, now that's funny right there. Yes, I saw the video/

[@rcbif101]

I was one of the guys standing near the threshold at Cheat River and had a front row seat. You need to make about a 30 degree turn on very short final starting just before the river, rounding out above the river, and ideally, start higher up the side of the hillside to lessen the turn angle. The Maule in my opinion came in behind the power curve, too far away from the hillside, and turned too late resulting in cutting his turn short and not lined up with the runway. It was my first time flying in, and while a bit technical, I found it to be no issue after watching several videos of others landing there. This is not the kind of location you just show up to without reviewing video and satellite imagery. The event was great and well ran. The volunteers and especially the Air Boss did outstanding.

[@KuostA]

Wow, glad it went well for you! So how did the owners of the two victim aircraft react? How did the crash pilot react? What happened to the 3 damaged planes? Howabout all their owners?

[@moregrouchy]

You should interview with Juan

[@mikecrawford3805]

That is some real fine airmanship. The Maule dude, should probably find a different hobby.

[@rcbif101]

@KuostA A crowd of a hundred people swarmed the area and the runway was shut down. I chose to hang back for a while and not contribute to it. Walked down after 5 minutes or so, and to my relief, saw nobody injured, laying down, or being rushed away. Once it was clear nobody was injured, the area was cleared and the runway re-opened for landings. The 182 had its vertical nearly cut off, and the right side the the fus buckled. The yellow piper had the prop bent back and the left wing tip damaged back to and including the front spar. The Maule was deep in the trees and hard to see its damage. As stated in the video, luckily for it's occupants they hit saplings and not a full grown tree. After the shock wore off, people were back to enjoying the fly-in and lunch.

[@flightsimguides]

@@marctronixx guessin they didn’t fly back out…. Just a hunch.

[@chrishauser5505]

"It's just a drift.... to the left! And then a loop to the riiiiiiiight!" Rocky Horror Landing Show.

[@nightshift5201]

"...Put your hands on your hips, The Cub's had a friiiight! And it's the wing tip cruuush that nearly drives you insaaaaane, Let's.. do.. the..Tail Warp again!" 😄

[@langdons2848]

That's hilarious.

[@gdwnet]

and now I have that song in my head.

[@JasonWardStudios]

ROFL!! Classic! 😅🤣

[@bobroberts2371]

Beat me to it . . .

[@KM-os4be]

Wow! Reminds me of those mustang guys at a cars and coffee event.

[@JasonWardStudios]

LOL! Same crap, different pile. 😖

[@ToddDunning]

Well said …. Always the Mustang douchebags

[@1compaqedr8]

As a 15 mustang 5.0 6speed owner and pilot, I have not wrecked at a car show and do not take risks when flying either. In fact, I avoid flying with pilots who are known risk takers. From what I've seen, most of the bad/dangerous driving has been from dodge owners lately.

[@Johnfisher12345]

@1compaqedr8 The fact that you think the bad drivers are primarily in one particular make or model of vehicle tells everyone you aren’t really taking it as seriously as you think you are. You’re still competing and posturing and putting the blame on others instead of recognizing that bad drivers inhabit ALL corners of the motor vehicle world. Likewise for bad pilots.

[@1compaqedr8]

@@Johnfisher12345 Analyze yourself for pointing blame at me for mentioning dodge drivers while not directing same statement to original poster for making a statement against mustang drivers. Perhaps you failed to recognize that?

[@tomgnyc]

Taking off in a damaged plane is not just a personal risk. You're risking the lives of people on the ground as well.

[@grahamb5509]

And what was not shown here was that he took off over a spectator area and made a quite steep climb out.

[@gazzas123]

That was a stupid move not to stop and see what damage was done.

[@juliemanarin4127]

Absolutely

[@Kevin_747]

Big tires don't make everybody a bush pilot.

[@DBCooper-r3l]

Too much drag, need to put wheel pants on those tires.

[@cinkidaz]

That isn't what the big tire salesman told me?

[@hanovergreen4091]

A license doesn't make you a pilot too.

[@idekav.]

they sure as hell dont make you one.

[@e1000sn]

Beg to differ; I put big tires on my bike and crashed into a bush. Checkmate.

[@warped-sliderule]

Looks like the first guy wanted to be a bush pilot and succeeded -- off into the bushes he went...

[@kendrapratt2098]

😂😂😂

[@roderickcampbell2105]

I'd rather be a different sort of "bush" pilot. It's not without it's own dangers though.

[@amykathleen2]

I’ll be the kind where I just sit in a bush and imagine it’s an airplane.

[@roderickcampbell2105]

@@amykathleen2 Well we have all done that sort of thing Amy :) It's a great line though. I have been on aircraft that had a loo so small I wish it was a bush instead.

[@RMK67]

Watched the tail trike live of VH-XKW and couldn't believe he took off again without a pre-fight check of the damage and was expecting a failure of control upon climbing, thank god it flew away from the crowd who were underneath the departure heading.

[@SteamCrane]

I heard that he overflew part of the spectators on the way out.

[@XXforhireXX]

@@SteamCrane he would have had to overfly spectators taking off in that direction. Its spectators to the left, right and straight ahead.

[@toodlepop]

i've flown less than 100 hours and it was years ago and even i was like "would a person crash into something and then just take off without checking the damage?" my mind is a little blown here.

[@AlyssaM_InfoSec]

You said it all at 4:44, "there's no need to try to impress everybody". The one thing I don't like about these fly-ins are the number of pilots trying to show-off, with some getting themselves in over their heads. Back in my motorcycling days it was the same thing. The ones that usually wrecked at rallies were the ones that tried to ride beyond their skill level to show off for the others.

[@pigdroppings]

Famous British test pilot Eric Brown said the same thing about airshow crashes after WW2...... Most crashes were do to pilots trying to outdo everyone else at the airshow......Now there are a lot of airshow rules to prevent those crashes.

[@planboutfitters3099]

ya too many folks buying a tailwheel and thinking this means they are the next runner up for the Valdez trophy. i am far more impressed to watch a pilot come in and execute skill with care, landing safely without posing a risk to themselves or anyone else.

[@chrisnoname2725]

@@planboutfitters3099so nobody should ever test their skills and have fun and become a better pilot? This attitude of only caring about safety is why everything is going backwards. It should be about a balance. Why should anyone be allowed to learn to fly at all? The other problem is that because everything is purely about safety most of the time, people might not really understand the risks of the things we do that are still dangerous. I have had instructors with your mindset and they’re not the people i want to fly with because they are useless when anything unusual occurs.

[@planboutfitters3099]

@@chrisnoname2725 Bro he came to a perfectly good airfield and smashed into peoples airplanes when they were trying to have a picnic. Hone your skills all you want there is a time and a place, he was not stabilized and was acting with undue care. You have no idea what kind of pilot i am, as i dont know you either.

[@chrisnoname2725]

@@planboutfitters3099 ok i understand your point and agree. And I think i should expect more of others. I know I wouldn’t have let myself do that and unless i was very confident in my abilities i wouldn’t have gone. I was more seeing it as people thinking that anyone who crashes is an idiot and I don’t agree with that as an automatic reaction and normally the people that are the most critical of others are the least critical of themselves.

[@Willbrse]

The one in Bathurst was wild. Too many people at the track watching the race, that could have gone so wrong... that guy didn't care for anyone's safety

[@GlideYNRG]

Surprised it was approved. Looks tight getting in. Langley Park in Perth not much better.

[@2Railz]

@@GlideYNRG It's definitely not the first time they've landed planes on the circuit. Back in 2021 they landed a Red Bull plane in the same area. But... it wasn't supposed to be a part of the show and so there wasn't the same get-in-get-out pressure. Also I think the wind conditions were somewhat different - if you watch the landing from this weekend it was quite the crab approach with heavy crosswind.

[@GlideYNRG]

Approach Would've been tricky. Hopefully just a tea and bikkies meeting with a few questions.

[@BouillaBased]

That's going to be a pretty hefty check for three aircraft.

[@jimmydulin928]

I am 77 years old, Juan, so both longitudinal axis alignment techniques and the price of tailwheel airplanes have changed. I used to teach in an Aeronca 7AC that rented for $3.00 per hour wet. I taught the predominant dynamic proactive rudder movement technique, which was what I was taught. We called this technique walking the rudder pedals. It was used constantly on short final and throughout landing roll and even taxi. None of us pilots would have even imagined telling a person not to move his hand much when balancing a broom on his hand. Nor would we say that about rudder control. That technique, however, did not allow for the instructor to ride the rudder pedals with the student. Pilots of the very expensive tailwheel airplanes now expect their instructors to ride the controls in order to more likely save the airplane from ground loop or loss of control. Quality of instruction suffers from saving the airplane above learning how to fly the airplane. Land slow enough that no damage occurs. Yes, he probably touched down left of center. No, he should not land the airplane near so many other airplanes unless he can put it down with the centerline (or center of LZ) exactly between his legs with dynamic proactive rudder (walking the rudder pedals) insuring that the outcome of the maneuver is never in doubt. Alignment correction by jabbing a rudder to realign is totally insufficient. Yes, he could have landed further down beyond the parked airplanes. Yes, he could use wide and long runways. No, he couldn't crop dust off irrigation dikes that are only as wide as the gear or county roads between the road signs. Bigger runways or better technique is required.

[@dermick]

Using our feet to steer is not a natural action for most people. What I found helped me a lot was using a simple PC VR simulator with good rudder pedals - really helped make it natural to steer with my feet. I could get 100s of landings in just a few days - something very hard to do in real life due to time and money constraints. This is an underutilized technology which could help people learn to fly tailwheel aircraft.

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

@@dermick Did Link trainers from WW2 (Only 80 years ago) have this ability as well?

[@jimmydulin928]

@@JohnSmith-pl2bk Link trainers from WW2, "the blue canoe," were retained in Army units until the 70s. They were procedural trainers. The blue canoe I did 50 hours in had a collective, cyclic, and anti-torque pedals. The only thing that actually worked in either airplane or helicopter procedural trainer was the rudder (anti-torque) pedals. Yes, you could exactly fly the procedural track with rudder or anti-torque pedals and pretend to add throttle or collective, stick or cyclic, all day long. The vertical speed indicator was faking it as was the artificial horizon. The DG and turn and bank indicator were critical, however, to the simulator function. If you maintained the proper heading and made the half standard rate (halfway to the dog house in helicopter) of turn, the grease pencil roller would roll out your efforts on the glass cover over the approach chart. After the lesson, the pilot would be able to view the red ink procedural track he had made with rudder (anti-torque) pedals and the amount of pedal (rate of turn.) And yes, a smart pilot could simply relax in the canoe and walk the pedals dynamically and proactively to exactly stabilize the DG luber line or push one pedal exactly with enough distance to exactly form the curve of a standard rate (airplane) or half standard rate (helicopter) of turn. And yes, amazingly this simple WW2 device could help a pilot learn dynamic proactive rudder movement appropriate to flying short final and landing and taxiing a tailwheel airplane. As the first ROTC cadet to get a Commercial Certificate in a C-140 with ROTC Flight, however, I was probably in a small group of Vietnam era Army aviators who worked the anti-torque pedals dynamically and proactively to nail the exact DG luber line heading. I don't think the other technique, that of jabbing an anti-torque pedal to realign, would have shown up much on the red ink line on the approach chart. I will guarantee you, however, that every one of them worked the anti-torque pedals dynamically and proactively when hovering a helicopter.

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

@@jimmydulin928 Thanks...loved the story!

[@powerskurf]

Love your work Mate ! Repco is a car parts store down here, I hear they are thinking of going into plane parts now...

[@lizj5740]

LOL! I'll watch for the adverts. Cheers from Liz and Ginger (pic left) in Australia.

[@WarPhotographer1974]

Someone is not getting invited next year 🤦🏽

[@TSKseattle]

Terminology confusion: In my experience "tail strike" means your tail hits the ground on take off. Maybe we need a new term for "Hitting the tail of another aircraft"

[@warped-sliderule]

Yes, thought the same thing. Think it's just a "ground collision" and no need to specify the part that was hit...

[@cinkidaz]

"Tail Thwap"

[@musicloverme3993]

@@cinkidaz Thwap made me think of Spiderman.

[@aerospaceguy4639]

Tail Tap

[@Johnfisher12345]

Yeah, I was surprised to see him refer to the first one in particular as a tailstrike as well.

[@pk-so1mj]

I watched the extra incident at Bathurst live and was yelling at the T.V in amazement that he just took off again with no inspection with arguably the most critically important control surface in the aircraft damaged. Not only did he take off without checking, Hell corner is at the end of that direction he took off into with thousands of spectators sitting there. If something went wrong this could have been a much bigger Issue. Hayden is a fantastic pilot but I’m sorry this was just stupid.

[@popsfereal]

He's now classified as a hot dog.

[@AndyPat239]

​@@popsfereal at least he's not a splattered meat pie!

[@gap9992]

Maybe he didn't realise he had hit the wall?

[@dermick]

@@gap9992 Exactly what I was thinking. When your tailwheel goes off into the grass, there's lots of bouncing and additional drag. He could have thought the tailwheel got bogged down, or something else. I can't imagine a pilot with that level of experience knew he hit his elevator and just ignored it.

[@Coops777]

I wonder if he was in radio contact with someone on the ground. Would have been a sensible idea to have someone on channel giving him wind and condition updates

[@michaelhoffmann2891]

Juan, I bet you never had a video where so many of your viewers were groaning in unison and covering their eyes, all feeling a real sense of pain in watching these unfold. It hurt, man, it hurt!

[@riccicrozzie8204]

I witnessed the Repco aircraft hit the wall, my second thought was, Juan is going to love this one, first thought was,oh sh.t ! On a side note, there was recently a helicopter crash in Australia recently where the person stole the aircraft and buzzed his apartment before crashing inverted.

[@StewartEvans-e3z]

Yep soon as I saw it myself I guessed it would get a mention, shame that made the channel for the wrong reason. The Cairns Helicopter crash was just a moron that should have never got into the cockpit.

[@user-gq2vn1xj2r]

From that overhead shot, I'm not understanding why everyone was lined up so close to the runway. Seems like there was plenty of room to give a buffer zone around the runway.

[@brandyballoon]

I'm guessing the reason is because it's hard to do a push back on grass, so they park in a way that allows them to leave by going forwards.

[@rcbif101]

On one side, there was a taxiway that needed to be kept clear. On the longer un-interrupted side, the grass starts to slope towards the trees.

[@kneel1]

because you cant see the sloping. They parked them as far back as they can and yes, its tight. Usually is fine but sometimes there are incidents. Thankfully noone hurt.

[@planboutfitters3099]

there was plenty of buffer, the clown landed on it to make a show.

[@Adrian_au]

The Extra300 pilot should certainly have to 'show cause' as to why they shouldn't have their license suspended for a period of time. The delivery is the kind of idea a halfwit TV producer would come up with & it looks like they found their halfwit pilot, willing to take stupid risks (if the immediate takeoff is anything to go by).

[@Roland_Rohrle]

Well said👍😎

[@MaxNippard]

When I saw the clip the first thing that came to mind was the tv producer thinking they had come up with the best stunt ever! Landing while being filmed from a helicopter behind the plane, onto a makeshift airstrip with crowds nearby is a lot of risk for a few seconds of TV filler.

[@chrisnoname2725]

@@MaxNippardlol. It was a simple land come around and take off again. I have to clue how you think the helicopter made the manoeuvre more dangerous nor how you ever got the idea that planes can only land at airports. The red bull air race i went to they were landing in a park.

[@chrisnoname2725]

The only issue was taking off after the impact. It’s not stupid to have a plane land and take off again. That’s what planes do

[@fepatton]

For that first one, I'm imagining a new Bob Newhart (RIP) telephone routine: "Hello, Acme Insurance. What can I do for you Mr. Sims? You what? You had an accident. How much damage was done to your plane? _Three planes_ Mr. Sims? That's a helluva lot of planes for one accident, Mr. Sims." 😂

[@Pepesilvia267]

He smacked the horizontal stabilizer into a concrete wall and then took off again???? I don’t care if the controls were free and clear, he could have done structural damage and died later in flight when the loading got high enough. That’s insane. I get he was embarrassed and just wanted to get out of there but that’s insane

[@TheGospelQuartetParadise]

For sure.

[@prussiaaero1802]

Also, took off towards crowd in the stands.

[@hmika215]

Wow didn't expect that, how quick came.up here on this channel! 😳

[@hmika215]

That Pilot at the race Bathurst 1000 is insanity deluxe! How on earth you are not checking your airplane after a tailstrike/hit like that! No respect for his own life nor for other people's!💀

[@juliemanarin4127]

OMG!!

[@redsand1197]

Bathurst 1000 fan here, know nothing about aviation. To an uneducated person who saw the incident on TV, it even looked bad to me. Glad to have someone who knows what they're talking about explain it in no uncertain terms. Not only did he turn around and take off, but it was directly over a grandstand with thousands of people in it.

[@workingguy-OU812]

That runway seems like a nightmare with that many planes parked there. I approach private plane flying like I do motorcycling; never travel to where it is busy - stay the hell away from people. That tight of parking on the runway would have told me "nope, not today - I'll go someplace else."

[@bigjeff1291]

When I rode, I did the same as you - stayed as far away from “cages” (cars) as I could. I quit riding a few years ago - too many cage drivers that “tailgate” and just didn’t have any respect for riders or their safety.

[@teddrewflack400]

@@bigjeff1291riders generally look after themselves, the hardest part is being noticed, when I spot a rider behind me I track them until they are well past me . As many bad car drivers out there , there is equal riders intent on becoming a statistic.

[@beenaplumber8379]

The crowded runway edge reminds me of a surreal experience of landing in Shawano, WI 2 decades ago. As I'm flaring out in my rented Cessna I become aware that the runway is lined on both sides by huge *greater sandhill cranes.* They were all right on the edge of the runway with their necks and bills pointed up, facing me. Maybe a hundred of them. I couldn't go around. If they became spooked and took off, I'd have been toast. I mean, these things are huge! They're as tall as I am with like an 8 foot wingspan. (That posture apparently means they perceived me as a threat in their space, and they were all trying to scare me off.) They stood their ground too. Not one of them moved until I was shut down and inside the FBO. They were all gone when I came back out. They'd made their point. Funny thing is, at the time I thought it looked more like a welcome salute than a warning to stay away.

[@schwamforfreedom]

I've always thought it would be fun to go to a fly in as long as they have parking for a courtesy or rental car from a nearby airport.

[@workingguy-OU812]

@@beenaplumber8379 Beautiful big birds, and I get to see them just about every weekend - and, yeah, hitting one of those would be heck. They absolutely aren't the brightest when it comes to roads, runways or paved paths, so thank goodness they are big enough to be seen from a distance.

[@benny360]

Ah Bathurst, never thought my home town would make this channel! Can’t believe that dude took off.

[@juliemanarin4127]

Stupid move!

[@Danger_mouse]

6:25 I'm an Aussie, didn't watch the race but saw the replays. What Juan didn't mention was not only did he not stop to check the aircraft and take off again, he did so straight overhead of the substantial crowd putting them at risk! I'd expect he might not have a licence for some time 👍👍👍

[@rv10ator]

Small detail: the Cessna was a 182, not a 172 (note the one piece back window), and it's tail is swept back further than a 172 so a slightly larger target to hit.

[@allenw1188]

Was thinking it looks like a 182 back window.

[@remb9614]

My wife thought a tail strike is when the dog knocks over things with his tail lol. That’s a more prevalent issue in our household

[@nickarganbright7218]

I mean, she's not wrong 🤷‍♂️😂

[@williamk5998]

Well, looks like my Maule's insurance just went up another $50.

[@imoverclocked]

Better get insurance for your insurance.

[@wackaircaftmechanic2312]

Ah, a familiar feeling. The M4 insurance was always nuts for us. I loved the M4 and miss it dearly but at least the Wilga has cheaper insurance compared to the M4.

[@grumpy3543]

I could see him taking off if he didn’t know. But he obviously knew it hit the tail.

[@Neil_]

Maule pilot lost control of a Cessna on landing 4 years ago and blamed brake failure. A reddit poster who claims to know the pilot labeled him "Wildly incapable." The video evidence seems to agree with that assessment.

[@restojon1]

"Wildly incapable"... what a quote!!

[@dominicdahlheimer6861]

Oh I'd bet a million bucks that the eyes of the Extra300 pilot got VERY wide as he was looking at / approaching the cement wall (im-movable) on his right! Why he would takeoff after this is baffling. I'd imagine that scrapping the composite tail is different sound-wise compared to scrapping a metal tail on the cement! And just maybe with the composite tail there maybe wasn't much of a "feel" when he contacted the cement wall. I am curious about what he both heard AND felt. WAS IT ALL ABOUT THE TV RATINGS-- --c'mon folks- -SAFETY had better be more important than tv rating! THANKS AGAIN JUAN!

[@Roland_Rohrle]

If you know the guy, you wouldn't be so surprised 😅🙄🤔 He has a bit of a reputation...

[@Glegh]

I feel sorry for the folks with the Cessna and Cub. Ruined by an idiot.

[@coldlakealta4043]

and it's a long walk home

[@kevinkelley3657]

Yeah, prob a low hour pilot for a tail drager, as Juan said.

[@michaelsamson3276]

@@kevinkelley3657 Guys often go through a phase when they think they are shit hot after they've got a few hours, plus he had Bush Wheels!

[@gonetoearth2588]

Hahahaha

[@popsfereal]

Insurance....

[@GBooth]

"Maul" is the word here, since that's what it did to the Cessna and the Piper.

[@CommentsAllowed]

I thought you were giving a jab calling him a "Mall Pilot" like a "Mall Cop". lol

[@OMG_No_Way]

…or Mall Crawler (Some Jeep owners) But yeah. I thought the same thing you did. Made me laugh actually 😂

[@williamford9564]

Funny. I knew nothing about the tail strike at Bathurst. The last video I watched before this one was the Race Highlights Video!

[@ph5915]

Oh man! That WV / Maule incident! Why oh why did he do that - try to STOL in there? Plus, had he ever been to that field before? Grass strips can certainly be lumpy. Of course the Maule's can deal with that. The other thing that stood out to me was the very narrow path between the parked planes on either side. I would be very hesitant to land there like that, especially not being dead center...I'm not tailwheel rated but have 10 hrs in training flights, it is certainly a hoot - but much less unforgiving of error! That Austrailia thing was a head scratcher too. No reason not to pull off, stop, inspect the damage!

[@pi.actual]

Why is everyone parked so close to the runway? I've never seen anything like that before, not even at Reklaw.

[@kevinheard8364]

You do a GREAT, great, job.... straight up, sir

[@Catatonicwater]

That little giggle after mentioning the ATSB.

[@curtgomes]

In 1981 my brother and I did a white water raft trip down the Cheat River in West Virginia. It had shades of 'Deliverance' at that time...... A memorable trip for sure. I can imagine the adventure flying into a private air strip in that area today.

[@TerryRussell]

The Extra 300 was landing at Bathurst doing a huge sideslip to the left, trees to his right and pits/paddock to his left, as he touched down he straightened too much and was already going towards the wall, the tail wheel bounce (and grass under one wheel, tarmac under the other while braking) sealed his fate.. Thanks for covering this Juan!

[@Coops777]

Interestingly his approach used a right slip into a left wind. Was it definitely from his left?

[@kraizy1]

I was at hells corner on the hill at the top and at the time of landing the wind was coming from the north east so he had a decent tail wind behind him

[@TerryRussell]

He came in to land pointing towards the pits, which are on his left. And indeed if the wind was from north-east it would be crosswind/tailwind 50/50.

[@Coops777]

@TerryRussell Yes, that agrees with the video footage. I can't help but think the pilot overestimated his skill with this landing. Making an off-airfield landing with a quartering tailwind along with hazards both sides of a narrow strip in a taildragger seems foolhardy to me. Add to that he should have used a left slip approach, putting the wing into the wind instead of away from it. Also wouldnt have hurt to hold left slip cross controls during the rollout and stick back to put more pressure/traction on the tailwheel. Also, why didnt the chopper pilot alert him on the radio that he hit the wall?

[@TerryRussell]

@@Coops777 He must have know he hit the wall with the massive impact and stop of rotation. And yes a very dumb decision but that's what the promoters thought was a 'good idea for the fans', they seem to have lots of these 'good ideas' that backfire :P

[@gregw6748]

The elephant in the room with the Extra is that he also took off over the crowd

[@brandyballoon]

Is it possible he didn't realize the tail hit the wall? That's the only explanation I can think of for his actions, otherwise it's bordering on criminal negligence.

[@chuckschillingvideos]

@@brandyballoon No way. Even if he didn't know it, any landing that goes that wrong requires a full inspection, if not the airframe then certainly the landing gear and brakes.

[@Mustang00007]

Whoa did not see that broadcast on the free to air T.V. stations..Thanks no doubt will be picked now that you have mentioned it Go Juan.

[@flyingfalcon8999]

It's good that Maule still makes airplanes.

[@turbofanlover]

Ouch! Well, at least no one was seriously hurt.

[@chuckschillingvideos]

That was down completely to luck. There were quite a number of people who could have been severely injured.

[@Danstaafl]

Both incidents can be filed under; 'This is what you get from showing off'. A lesson best learned 2nd hand, take it from and old Skydiving instructor...

[@craigbathurst1185]

Nice to know that a town was named after your Family - Bathurst, Australia.

[@sheldoniusRex]

Fairly soft trees 💀

[@will5150]

is this the equivalent of a mustang doing a burnout at a cars and coffee?

[@mikenowland2739]

I don’t get burnouts 🤷‍♂️

[@wackaircaftmechanic2312]

Yes, especially when they asked for no burnouts

[@chuckschillingvideos]

@@mikenowland2739 I don't either. My tires cost $400 a corner. The last thing I'm doing is pointlessly shedding rubber at intersections.

[@toxaq]

Heh, didn't expect you to cover Bathurst!

[@kneel1]

ooof. that poor Cub! Glad all ppl are ok. That one hurt the pocketbook more than anything, I reckon.

[@kevinmaizey6118]

I was watching the aircraft land at Bathurst & could not believe that he took off again over the crowd. Surely a taxi to a holding area as if planed would have subdued the whole thing & he could have sorted it out quietly. ATSB will have a field day with this guy.

[@chrisblanch5730]

ATSB don't apportion blame nor prosecute.

[@leeroyholloway4277]

That Maule looked like it was hauling ass despite his effort at a short landing. I hope he can afford 3 broke airplanes.

[@backcountyrpilot]

Maule’s with IO540’s actually have a low useful load. My 2009 MT-7-235 had a useful load of just 771. With 84 gallons full fuel and my 180# self with sneakers and a headset, there was just 87# available to fill the other 4 of the 5 (FIVE) seats! The 4 cylinder Maule’s have a useful load North of 1,100, but their cruise speed is quite a bit lower. I put 450 hours on the “MaulDenero” and loved it. It could takeoff in under 300#, land reliably in about 600, cruise at 125 kts, but the Useful Load limited its missions. Note, the Maule M9 has about another 300#’s of Useful load, but I think there are fewer that a dozen of them built.

[@peterredfern1174]

Most important of all,NO FATALITIES,mate ,safe flights.

[@SI-lg2vp]

How sad to have an accident at Cheat River. They have a great all family fly in. Perhaps the two pilots that crashed could apply at Delta Airlines.

[@schwbo]

There was another accident at Cheat River the prior day. Husky N79HY went into the trees towards the end of runway 30.

[@noelwarner1235]

Used to go by this field 10 times a week for 20 years.Was by there I think a year or two ago when a plane crashed over the hill and almost into the river.I live about an hour from there.

[@philthome1303]

That Maule is a real mauler 😆

[@paulbrouyere1735]

Some people could start with some training as a forklift driver, good for situational awareness and limits of the vehicle in 3 dimensions

[@Darryl_Frost]

That Bathurst race crash got my attention, I could not believe he ignored it and took off..

[@planboutfitters3099]

ya man, could have ended up with elevator flutter or any number of issues during the flight. he should lose his license for a bit and think about it.

[@otm646]

The Extra also bangs the tailwheel into the ground on the takeoff leaving the track!

[@erwinschmidt7265]

Enjoyed Video Mr. Juan!! That Acrobatic Plane Dude just precious!! In mid 90's, saw similar Capt do similar sht w/NWA Jetliner! Investigation still tied up @NTSB by Classification. He had been on ILS, w/me in MDOT Pickup on Freeway, & had to notice him as stationary, & same Microburst that had slammed me, was gonna slam him!! His 150kt headwind, to become 150kt tailwind, & nobody wants that...right?? W/triple payload of asphalt testing equip, & had just been sped up from 55 to 85, I jerked it up on rt wheels, (like Fairground's Hell Drivers), slipped up thru side window, sat on sill, gassed w/rt foot, steered w/rt hand, pointed up at Capt WTF up there w/lt, while slaloming ctr line of I-96. Capt said to 1st, You otta see...*oly *HIT, exhaust billowed out of MD-82's butt! Capt had went Full Throttle, Full flaps, Gear Up, Nose Down, Hit Microburst, plummeted straight down, but had just enough control to effect last fraction of a second pullout of dive, & ran his Jetliner thru young Oak Forest, arrows gently out, flew up & around, overflew my Pickup, Big lazy U-Turn, & here he comes at Freeway Elevation, gently waggling wings, & waved piece of paper on side window for "Thanks", & I used Beacons to say, "No Problem!" Capt flew back over to International Airport, but they had locked that sucker up tighter than...well use your imagination"! Capt had no Antennae, No Radio, all Controls Mooshe etc, so gave self Clearances for Approach, Land, Taxi, Cross Runways, Approach Concourse, & Park in his Spot! Local Gestapo quickly Arrested & Cuffed Capt, while pulling Oak Limbs from Belly for Evidence Tampering AND Joyriding Aircraft, draggin' him across Apron, up steps into Terminal, past his deplaned Passengers makin' 'em cry, & before FAA Grand Poohbah's Panel of Know-It-Alls!! In Investigation, Capt told NTSB exactly same as above, but they clipped his wings, jerked his Certs, & demoted him to, "Interested Civilian"! HOW BOGUE!! Investigators used terms like, "Never Happened", "Physically Impossible", "Not NWS Forecast", "Improper Source", "Truck Driver, not a Pilot", and "Where is your proof", while Jetliner sat there in pieces!! Ain't that a hoot Juan??? Only in USA Buddy!!

[@EXROBOWIDOW]

The recent Catalina Island crash had an interesting weather situation. Apparently it was foggy that night. But a meterologist later said it was clear. Someone mentioned that there is not currently a weather station there, and they use the weather station from San Clemente Island 28 miles to the south. I live a few miles inland from the coast, about 35 miles north of Catalina. We were having foggy weather during what was being called a heat wave. I assumed it was foggy at Catalina, too. Also note that the National Weather Service recently changed its downtown Los Angeles weather forecast. They were using a weather station at USC for forecasts. They decided the weather at USC did not accurately reflect DTLA weather. So in May 2024 they switched to using a station at the south side of Dodger Stadium, a little over 4 miles away from USC. Apparently NWS thinks that 4 miles can make a difference in the weather. So I wonder how anyone would know what the actual weather was like at the time that plane took off, unless a witness to the crash was at the airport at that time.

[@erwinschmidt7265]

I'm sorry!! You probably wanted to know damages to Jetliner, & Incompetent Me (Just ask NTSB), omitted 'em, but here they are, for your readin' pleasure!! Damages: 1. Fuselage totaled due to flyin' it thru woods. 2. Cabin wrecked by severe G - Forces. 3. Engines un-rebuildable due to unknowns after woods passage. 4. 5-Wing Spar Breaks + all plates deformed totaling them. 5. Undercarriage, + horizontal/vertical stabilizers need exam, to be OK for parts. Entire Cabin Crew had severe injuries as "Checking Belts", w/most severe injury a broken Spine of a Senior Stewardess, now confined to chair. I was told, before NWA folded into Delta, she was an Executive Secretary, still a devoted employee! Passengers belted up for landing, there were injuries, but Superhuman Pilotage by Capt, + above prompt Cabin Crew efforts, limited Passenger's exposure! Capt too busy for injury, doin' it all himself, as 1st Ofcr unavailable screamin'! Please return trays to the upright position. - Thank You - Erwin

[@erwinschmidt7265]

@@EXROBOWIDOW - Thanks for response. In relation to the Grand Rapids fiasco, I re-met that Capt 2 yrs of Training later at TPA, just approved to fly again. I was at Pilot's Lounge, & he had just started "schooling" his NWA 1st Ofcr, plus SWA Pair, but obvious 1st time as when hit Emergency Actions, he froze havin' nothing!! Few feet away, I added, "Capt, you went Full Throttle, Full Flaps, Gear up, Nose Down, disappeared in flat plummet, did last fraction of a second Pull-Out, wiping out Young Oak Forest, gently arrows up & out...Wham, Capt had me by throat!! After minute of his growling, "And just exactly how would you know all that", his 1st Ofcr offered, "Maybe if you'd stop chokin' 'em Capt....!" He did, & I replied, "I'm the Ahole Hwy Worker you just mentioned...I have MDOT ID!!" Capt glanced at ID, dragged me over to their table, & shouted, "Chair" to Waitress who grabbed one, he threw me into it, asking, "Would you like to join our party?" Waitress had my Pilot's Burger Spl, I hadn't eatin' in 3 days, Capt growled, "WTF is this, we're havin' Captain's Sirloin Dinner at this table, so please kindly donate that Burger to someone that might need it, & here's a twenty for an extra dinner napkin, Missie!" Capt took his new napkin, added it to his Chart Pen, then handed both to me sayin', you're Scribe tonight, we'll need everything jotted down please". Most stuff in original Comment rehashed, Diners crowding in for, Captain's, "Dangers of Microburst & Downdraft Training"!! Early Monday, Capt appeared at NTSB Director's Office, no bailiwick for napkins, so his Secretary tented weekend's mail, w/the Dinner Napkin! Director late, saw "tent" over his mail & laughed, but read napkin 1st, called for Investigation of G.R. Mess, read both, & stopped laughing! He shouted expletives, said, "I told them, Findings didn't match Evidence of wrecked plane, & apparently w/recorders overwriting that excursion towards Lansing & back, we were unable to Investigate!! Please get that Capt in my Office ASAP!!" Secretary no-jump, so shouted at her, "Get that Capt's Azz in this Office STAT!!! Secretary still no jump, casually sauntered over to his door, & said, "Director will see you now, Captain". He had been sitting outside Director's Door ever since opened! NWS at Grand Rapids International, absolute next recipient of latest model Doppler Radar set, no incidents since...and THAT'S HTF you get Doppler Radar!! The only reason I got the above info, was Lead Investigator of Re-Opened Investigation had told me details in early 1997, while he was grilling me, plus confided that Investigators had strong-armed NWS to certify Scenario Impossible, AND same w/MDOT, to certify no equipment anywhere near location of Incident, plus Director - Secretary Run-In, now NTSB lore, regarding getting stuff done!!

[@michaelwright2986]

There is an Australian expression -- indeed, a way of life: "No worries."

[@adriaba790]

Very British I'd say !!! And it would be " No worries,luv"

[@richardthomson4693]

yeah no wucking flurries

[@andrewfraser4347]

There’s also another saying, “what a tool”

[@michaelwright2986]

@@adriaba790 Nah, it's dinkum. Sometimes heard as "No worries, mate." Also seen on t-shirts as "No wucking furries," which is by no means intended as a micro-aggression against diverse eroticisms.

[@sorayawells5524]

Yeah, we're chill about most things. But not safety of our fellow humans. This guy us an idiot and should have his licence rescinded.

[@GodfreyLeBron]

Juan the constant here is that almost every single time that you use the word unstable trouble seems to follow

[@Bugkiller991]

Hmmm. A new drinking game… “Unstable”….”drink up fellas” 😅

[@2Hard2Core]

​@Bugkiller991 I bet that game will make you quite 'unstable' afterwards...😂

[@oz3278]

NEVER scroll past a new Juan video

Juan, your debriefs are the best Thank you

[@Acewhip]

Looks like folks are parking WAY too close to the strip...

[@chuckschillingvideos]

There really wasn't anywhere else to put them. Did you see the overhead view?

[@qarnos]

​@chuckschillingvideos in that case, there were too many aircraft allowed to land

[@Acewhip]

@@chuckschillingvideos Yes, if you look at 1:00 folks are defaulting to the runway line for parking reference, I think they should be back from that. You don't want the parked aircraft to be the landing margin

[@drogue7072]

My son seen the Extra Bathurst 1000 incident live and messaged me to say what happened. I messaged him back to say well he won’t be flying anytime soon. He messaged back with no he just took off😂😂.

[@michaelhoffmann2891]

Being Australian and having watched this, I'm not sure if I should be proud or embarrassed at the commentators: they were in the middle of an interview with some local racing legend and barely said a word about what had happened. Not even WHEN it happened "bit of a ding, she'll be right, mate", that's all. 😆 I mean it happens to the motorbikes and they keep on racing, not much difference with an aeroplane, right?

[@47colton]

Great technique there..not a three pointer and not wheel landing. That pilot was just along for the ride..about not being pissed because some goof smashed your airplane..you wouldnt be so relaxed if you spent years rebuilding one or finding the perfect classic for yourself and then this happens. Just glad nobody was killed.

[@iavdortmunder8132]

Glad you spotted the awkward climax to the hours of cringeworthy tv build up to the Bathurst car race. I cant believe he took off again after clearly breaking part of the plane.

[@robertlafnear7034]

That first Crash was hard to watch... look like he had it ... but then BAH HUMBUG & KABOOM !His insurance Co. is not going to be very happy.

[@n206ja]

I own a 2100 x 100 turf strip with clear approaches and have rare, informal fly-ins - usually just a half-dozen or so aircraft. Unfortunately, there was not a good place to park anywhere near the hangar, which tends to be the "gathering spot" since it provides shade, water, and a restroom. So, small groups of aircraft tended to park on the end of the runway. However, despite the generous amount of strip length, one day someone managed to run off the end of the runway and through a vinyl fence. I had deliberately installed vinyl fence to minimize damage to an aircraft should this happen. Fortunately, this was not a "fly-in" and there was no one parked on the end of the runway, so damage was very, very minimal. However, I determined right then that I needed to make a parking area off the runway, even though it is rarely used. So, a with a grading contractor and a few thousand bucks, a parking area was created! Point is, safety can be designed-in to an airstrip. (IMHO, there were way too many aircraft crammed into the WV fly-in.)

[@michaelimbesi2314]

I thought the guy in West Virginia was going to be the most foolhardy pilot in this video. I was wrong. It takes a special kind of reckless to knock off part of a control surface and then decide to take off again instead of taxiing off the racetrack and getting the plane fixed.

[@georgiapatriot4575]

It seems parking at a fly-in has similar rules to parking a semi at a truck stop, where the end spots are actually the spots you DO NOT want because you get hit by the numskulls that don't swing wide enough when turning at the end. My first impression of the Maule was that he was turning WAY too close to the ground--definitely an unstabilized approach.

[@danielkemp4860]

Every GA pilots (second) biggest fear must be appearing on the Blancolirio channel 🥴

[@flyingardilla143]

Maybe it's the October curse. It's our busiest month in search and rescue.

[@Colaeroimages]

Kablammo making it's appearance again! This time, x3!

[@Georgeconna32]

That Aussie one was daft. Taking off without checking. Nuts.

[@pgilb70]

Wouldnt it be prudent to park all the planes further from the runway edge? More margin of error..The bathurst pilot appeared to check his rudder controls after the incident but not the elevator...ugghh As Juan says, " Every landing is a GA with an option to land!" Wise words we should all follow.

[@JohnLemieux]

I had my parked car hit by a car one time and I’m trying to imagine how much more frustrating that would be for an airplane

[@rickrudd]

That first one looked like a Dan Gryder special.

[@EXROBOWIDOW]

The tree edition, not the cornfield edition.

[@MickB235]

The pilot in the Bathurst incident took off right over my children who were there at the race but apparently after arriving at the airport he immediately contacted CASA and the ATSB and self reported

[@Cub726]

How sad, the PA-11 is exactly like mine but it isn’t a Cub Cruiser it’s a Cub Special. Your Channel is one of the very best you do an awesome job.

[@lukew5602]

The extra300 pilot was so embarrassed he would rather takeoff with a broken elevator then do the walk of shame on tv… SMH

[@chuckschillingvideos]

Not sure if you caught it but a part of his elevator or stab flew off on impact.

[@flycubfly]

There also was a Aviat Husky that ground looped and ended up in the trees resulting in substantial damage.

[@AT502]

Just gotta show off ... KABLAMO!

[@ronwade2206]

This is why we can't have anything nice!

[@bks252]

Obviously the guy screwed up by trying to land so short but why do they have all of those aircraft parked so close to the runway? There’s absolutely no reason for it. I know, all the other planes landed safely but there’s no good reason to make it at all tight. Maybe there is a reason and if so, I’d be curious to find out.

[@Johnfisher12345]

Most guys that do these flyins have significant experience and know how to land their planes properly. There’s probably limited space there to park planes elsewhere, and plenty of room for anyone properly experienced to land.

[@chuckschillingvideos]

There really isn't anywhere else to put them. When you invite that many pilots to an event and they all come, the parking thing....is a thing.

[@raleedy]

The term “tailstrike” is getting quite a workout.

[@vbscript2]

Delta A350 crew: "We had a tail strike in Atlanta." FAA: "On takeoff or on landing?" A350 crew: "Taxi" FAA: "How do you hit your tail during taxi??" A350 crew: "Oh, it wasn't our tail..." Good thing that last one was just an extra 300. I guess they didn't need that extra one anyway. - haha

bet it was fun trying to find a flight out!!

[@kenpeterson4555]

Looks like a Allstate commercial with mayhem at the controls.

[@avfabs9068]

Failed to mention the Extra then takes off over a crowded grandstand 😮

[@patmcbride9853]

This is why I don't park near the front of the lot when I go to the store.

[@onethousandtwonortheast8848]

Doing things with others watching is a pretty reliable distraction to the person trying to do the thing right.

[@jnurmi]

The Extra 300 pilot certainly showed boldness by not bothering to check the integrity of the horizontal stabilizer. Did he not ever hear the phrase "there are young and bold pilots, but no old and bold pilots"?! Flying is risky enough as is. Why add to it when a simple walkaround that costs nothing could mean the difference between getting home for dinner vs laying on a cart at the local morgue?? Insane!!

[@Realflight1986]

Is it wrong that I laughed out loud at 4:12 while Juan stifled his? Well, so be it..