Two new engines, ONE BIG PROBLEM! [Ep124 RED SEAS]

[@jackechan1311]

You`re still amazingly doing a thing!

[@RedSeas]

We are still amazed we are able to do a thing 😂

[@jackechan1311]

LOL .... Sometimes we remark that your escapades are a testament to the fact that there is indeed a God who looks out for us. lol

[@pmorph]

I know you've already done the build, but I would have used a hard wood rather than ply. Traditional engine bearers were always made of a hardwood. I'm also suspicious of ply as strength is always only 50% in any one direction. Well done on doing all the work yourself on the engines, its a big job! Phil

[@RedSeas]

It’s a good point. We were hoping to use koa or teak however we weren’t able to source either here. Hence we went all out on soaking the hardwood marine ply in epoxy and layers of fibreglass to build up the strength. At this point I think there may be more epoxy and glass than their is wood 😂 Still, it’s something we will be keeping an eye on and, now that we know we can move the engines around as we did, I guess we can always rebuild the beds when we get somewhere with easier access to materials.

[@pmorph]

@@RedSeas one more thing... when you're gluing wood together with epoxy, you should put filler powder into the epoxy so that it gets thicker, something akin to mayonnaise and when you push the planks together it should squeeze out. West Systems has some great information on their website on this. Phil

[@RedSeas]

Good point. We used a silica filler when attaching them to the engine beds as the surface wasn’t totally even but could have added some between the sheets of marine ply too. Hopefully standing on top of them while they cured under the old pallets will have compressed them enough to get a good hold!

[@latitudeash]

Both of you are unusually Co-ordinated. Like a wall oiled team. Practically reading each others thoughts. Well done, it’s in. 🥳

[@RedSeas]

Cheers! Yeah, it’s funny how that never really comes across in episodes. We do actually talk sometimes 😂

[@willyum1208]

not surprised, a lot of twins have this power.

[@latitudeash]

@@willyum1208 na it’s because they had red heir, that and being married for a long time might be it…lol. Great team don’t you think. If both of them walked out of a spaceship that’s how I would imagine alians from outer space to look…. 🤣😂… ps- mind reading is what all space aliens do…🤪

[@ardent-training]

Superb Well done you two!!

[@RedSeas]

Thank you!

[@thomascallaghan5988]

Great video

[@RedSeas]

Hey Thomas. Pleased you enjoyed it. Thanks for leaving g the comment too. Really encouraging.

[@brettbatchelor3205]

Love it. You two are rock stars... Some day we willl cross paths

[@RedSeas]

Right back at ya mate! Here’s hoping we can get you a drink in a beach bar sometime soon. Where are you now?

[@calmauric8218]

The black air "filter" as nanny call it. Tends to fall off. Mine is braced by some stainless wire. Also, change the ATF in the transmission every 200hrs. Theres less than a litre in there, gets a pounding. Dex3 is fine. Engine parts are all corresponding to a kubota V2203.

[@RedSeas]

All good tips. Thank you we will be looking after these bad boys like new parents I think 😂

[@latitudeash]

What a back drop guys. Beautiful sunset as your office… one can only dream of such a work-office… 👍🏼

[@RedSeas]

Totally agree. Stunning views

[@sailingnoboundaries]

Fantastic work you to are an incredible team.

[@RedSeas]

Cheers! We are just guessing our way along really

[@dubuandmore7907]

Amazing and good job. We would say, you are one of the most improvising team we know. Your knowledge how to fix some stuff is increasing from work to work. 😂😁

[@RedSeas]

Wow, thank you! As you know, we are making it all up as we go along but so far Indioko has looked after us at every turn.

[@brokerwiththebeard]

Can I just say… just hearing your intro music gets me hyped and reading to do boaty stuff! Love you guys!

[@RedSeas]

😂 it’s a banger of a tune right? I think it does the same to us. When it comes on while we are busy on the boat, we both smile and pick up the pace. Check out Arrows and Bullets too. They have some amazing songs that we are still trying to convince KZbin to let us use.

[@dutchglobetrotter4513]

Great job you guys and all done with smiles and laughter.

[@RedSeas]

Cheers mate. We are figuring it all out. Hope they all work in the end

[@murphyrp01]

Great job to get that done. You guys have great energy together. Puts a smile on my face.

[@RedSeas]

Hey, that’s one of our main goals. To put a smile on your face knowing that either you could do it better or would have fun trying. 😊

[@halcon2134]

I would put a drive shaft. thanks for the video nice boat

[@RedSeas]

Yeah, we picked the leopard 47 for that reason. Shaft drive rather than sail drive means we can do almost all our work in the water and we don’t have to haul out as often.

[@johnroux4919]

You guys are my heroes! If I become a patron do I get to see the parts where you yelled and called each other names? Lol. Truly an amazing job. Thanks for sharing!

[@RedSeas]

😜 the patreons definitely get the unfiltered experience. Can’t say we ever yell names at each other but you may have to decipher some of our more Scottish sayings at times….but they are all meant with affection honest! Cheers for following along and hopefully inspiring a little too. Plenty more on patreon if you do get round to it. 😉

[@thomastepas8699]

Starboard or a synthetic deck board would work.Even teak which wouldn't rot .Too late now, but if you saturate the plywood totally ,and have enough fiberglass covering it should last !

[@RedSeas]

Yeah, supplies and options are pretty limited out here so we made do with marine hardwood ply soaked in epoxy and layer up with glass. These things are solid and water tight so hopefully they see us through for a while or at least until we get somewhere with easier access to supplies 😊

[@bishopkinlyside8477]

Hi guys, I really love and appreciate you both. I just love your enthusiasm towards the work you’re doing on the boat/catamaran and you work together so well keep up the good work. Love the videos Cliff from Australia

[@RedSeas]

Mate. That’s a really kind comment to make. Cheers!

[@RichieKeane]

Where do you guys find these amazing partners? I cant find pros who work as hard. Clear who the admirals are behind the midshipmen!!

[@RedSeas]

Tell me about it. Brioni is one of a kind. Like the energiser bunny, she just keeps going!

[@bruceallen9977]

Hi, great videos!!! Have you done a video on the cost of the boat - looks like you got a GREAT fixer upper that is getting fixed up... i'm in search... scared a little of the older lagoons - 47 seems like the length you'd want for any type of crossings... bravo !

[@RedSeas]

Cheers! We have done a walk around but I don’t know if we have ever done a breakdown of costs (perhaps we are too scared think think how much we spend on indioko every week 😂) We have talked in various interviews about why we chose Indioko as an older (2005) leopard 47. Our goal was to buy something built before 2008 as we think that was a key changeover in the builders market. Good luck on your search and remember, the more you fix and install, the better you will understand your boat!

[@latitudeash]

The oil will go into places it should not if you dangle it on its end

[@davidwood4427]

That is a very real possibility. A chat with the manufacturer re what to be aware of after a tail dangle would be a good idea. I suspect a smokey start up at the very least, hopefully not a hydraulic lock.

[@latitudeash]

@@davidwood4427 Smokey start yes, and need to turn by hand first to stop damage at start up.

[@carltontweedle5724]

Great job a plus the weather held. We just had a sunny day in Fife first time this year and no rain.

[@RedSeas]

Wow! Hopefully it’s the start of a sunny spring for you

[@trevhedges]

Well done guys!

[@RedSeas]

Cheers! It’s an ongoing mission but somehow we are getting closer to two fully installed and running engines 😊 well, at least that’s the goal.

[@trevhedges]

@@RedSeas them flexible couplings, are technically not Sacrificial, we call them Jacob disks, they are made from nolifane (spelled incorrectly) but it’s an oil resistant form of incredibly strong oil resistant rubber, They still need to be perfectly aligned, there role is to reduce shock loading, (probably why you were told they are sacrificial) but as the engine torque pulls the engine one way, they are designed to flex so it doesn’t try to force the engine mounts and gearbox in different directions, but they have another sneaky role, as the new engine mounts settle, they will happily take about 3-5 mm of misalignment, meaning a smooth lower than you thought possible vibration out, meaning quieter and smoother operation, that’s the pros, only small cons, firstly, (which needs doing anyway) after 10 hour intervals, eg 10-20-30 you should (must) remove that disk, and adjust any settle movement, by adjusting the engine mounts, remembering.. this bit is important, say the rear needs to come up slightly? You don’t just raise the rear, you adjust the fronts down 1/2 and the rears up 1/2.. that makes sense? Basically you want to pay attention to the engine mounts that none of them are trying to be pulled forward or backwards, they should look mcboatface happy when the engine is at rest…. In theory at 10 hours of engine run time, you probably won’t need to adjust anything, so use that time to lube the engine mount bolts, WD40 or CRC CRC is actually better, But i can guarantee you between 0-30 hours, at least at one stage they will need adjustments.. after that nar, the second Con is they can break, and it’s normally catastrophic failure, meaning it will stop that particular engines operation until replaced.. have fun guys, Any advice? Ya know where to find me..

[@RedSeas]

Mate that’s super useful info. Obviously the guys at Nanni figured, with our track record, any issue we have is going to be catastrophic failure 😂 really good to know about the regular adjustment. We had it marked for after the first season trial and at 20 hours but something tells me we will be like new parents, looking after these things and panicking at the smallest things 😜 It’s kind of weird to think that the zincs out on the props are kind of decorative with these plates acti I g as insulators. So pleased the engine has zincs of its own and the galvanic isolator will be doing its thing onboard too.

[@trevhedges]

@@RedSeas definitely of a mechanical catastrophic failure, It renders that part completely inoperable, So basically carry a spare “ eventually”. I should have chosen a better word, 😂 catastrophic is a bit harsh, all i mean is that particular engine is outta action until you fit another disk.. put it this way, they last for years in cars with teenagers doing burnouts and shock loading the poor things to death.. = if you have a spare? You will probably never need it.. but the adjustment makes sense? To raise or lower (it will be raise) doesn’t necessarily mean you can’t lower the front to raise the rear.. basic physics.. but often gets forgotten.. and ya don’t need to be overly protective, we have a saying in engine rebuilding, if it starts and runs for 1 hour, with good oil pressure, it will run for 100,000 hours.. which is exactly what warranty i gave to all my engines, 5 years or 100,000 kms whatever occurred first.. (no blame) as in it’s my problem regardless unless intentional abuse was found.. (which was never)

[@dharwood2727]

Now THAT was impressive!!!👍

[@RedSeas]

Cheers! It was erm something that’s for sure. 😃

[@wadeshore]

Well done 👍🏻

[@RedSeas]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@jameshay7537]

I can't believe that you have got this far. Well done guys. Sooner you than me

[@RedSeas]

😜 I think I read that as a back hand compliment. “I mean seriously, how are you two still alive?!?” Cheers james. We are learning so much as we go along. Hopefully it isn’t all wrong.

[@alangurman3961]

I love how handy most sailing females are. Sailing Yaba is a perfect example , as are you Red. Couldn't you of used the pallet that the engine came on.

[@RedSeas]

We used it as a stand to protect the sump pan as we lifted the new engines into place but we needed a hardwood that would stand up to the strength requirements over time - in a marine environment. But good thinking to reuse where possible.

[@bruceallen9977]

did you find the strength of the boom (what it could hold @ the heaviest point (the end)) ... all of that weight on the end of the boom likely put major stress on the hinges @ the mast .. just curious.. well done !!!

[@RedSeas]

Yeah, the boom and gooseneck are designed to handle the loads of a fully loaded mainsail so quite far beyond our engine load in this case. That said, we also worked out that the majority of the load was being placed on the topping lift rather than the gooseneck. To be honest, our biggest concern was that the topping lift might snap while holding the engine off the ground. That would be a disaster.

[@crowdfundcrew]

I never thought I’d enjoy watching an engine swap, but I’m completely enthralled and think your channel is now my favorite. I will enjoy when you guys are back exploring. Donate for a Dream

[@RedSeas]

Pleased we managed to win you over 😂 it’s a whole adventure in itself. Hopefully we get back into the sunshine and beauty soon enough but for now, indioko is getting a double heart transplant

[@edemkumah5248]

Are you sure that these two are not twins 😅. Great job. I really enjoy watching your channel. Thanks for sharing your adventures with the world. ❤❤

[@edemkumah5248]

You may have to let the second engine sit for a couple of days b4 you start it though. Oil may have gone into places it shouldn't have, because of the dangling. I could be wrong.

[@RedSeas]

It’s a good point. Thankfully they are dry at this point…and there is still plenty to do before we can fire them up so should be long enough for things to settle down to their new home in the boat. 😊 cheers for looking out for us tho

[@RedSeas]

😜 yeah, we have been asked that before. It’s cool. Definitely not twins but a match made in heaven 🤢 ok enough of that. 😂

[@dennisbreckner337]

What a team!

[@RedSeas]

Cheers!

[@markchodroff250]

Just thinking? Could you have used the old motor mounts ? Where they higher ?

[@RedSeas]

Great question. The old mounts were in pretty bad shape but it was actually the position of the mounts on the engine itself that were deferent. The Nanni sits lower (more cradled in between its mounts) than the yanmars did. It’s a total oversight on our part. But hey, adds to the fun.

[@latitudeash]

Surly you could get a 4.5cm wide wood and fibreglass in and by that time layers of fibreglass will make it upto 5cm… aka 2in aka 50mm

[@RedSeas]

That’s kind of what we were thinking. But finding hardwood that won’t rot if it gets in contact with salt water isn’t all that easy here.

[@geofferyrobertson6608]

the steel would wear the aluminium away or wear holes in it , you should have the sam material on both ... get a piece of timber cut to size then fibreglass it or use Carbon Fibre

[@RedSeas]

Which aluminium are you referring to? Think we managed to maintain pretty good isolation and used gasket or tefgel anywhere we couldn’t.

[@geofferyrobertson6608]

@@RedSeas , when you were saying you would need about 20 pieces of aluminium to use as a spacers for both sides on both motors ... you ended up doing it right though .... one should always use steel on steel ... aluminium on aluminium , if you mix them they will wear through friction

[@RedSeas]

Ah! I’m with you know. Yes, we looked at steel first but, as you can probably guess after hearing the cost of aluminium, steel really was waaaay out of the question. Had we gone with aluminium, we would probably have made up some kind of gasket or possibly even glassed it in place (like the original engine beds have). We are pretty pleased with the outcome as the added weight of 4 x 5m by 1m bars of steel would have been pretty heavy.

[@darrengilliland1943]

Trial by fire I always say if someone else can do it I can to plus it is nice to save thousands of dollars.

[@RedSeas]

We figure that we can always give something a go and if we mess it up, that’s when we would call in someone who knows better…at least so we can be supervised or watch over their shoulder to learn for next time.

[@V8guy3500]

Hi guys you may already know but your alignment should be done metal to metal before you install the polymer. Only when you have that alignment confirmed then the flexible part is installed. The correct alignment is so critical. Apologies if you are aware as I know your not at that stage (you may be in real time though)

[@RedSeas]

Thanks for the heads up. We have been super careful with alignment. It’s quite intimidating but I think we are getting our heads around it. We get into it a bit later but we measured just about every way we could think of to try and get it spot on. Cheers for looking out for us!

[@edburke2902]

Great job. It pains me to see it done barefoot though.

[@RedSeas]

Cheers and sorry! Yeah we were wearing our safety flip flops a lot of the time but sadly we left the steel toe boots in another life 😂 still, makes you feel alive doesnt it?!? 🤪

[@hagdav]

I keep waiting for Curly to show up with your Moe & Larry projects! #3Stooges Y'all are Awesome!

[@RedSeas]

We are having fun as we go. At least we learn on the job too 😊

[@TimothyEdwards]

The tugboat crew seem disproportionately happy about their new table!

[@RedSeas]

It’s the small things! 😊

[@davidperham897]

Coming along good so far, yes you must be exhausted by now. Had me worried with your caption it doesn’t fit! I guess there will be oil in the head of #2 engine but gravity should help with that problem, you will know when you see black smoke on start up. Glad they are in & you can move the boat to a safer place. Doing great work and waiting to see those puppies fire up Happy for you two 👍 Cdn. Dave

[@RedSeas]

Lucky for us we had then sitting for a while before we got them fired up. Hopefully those piston rings are doing their job 😊 We are getting there. Just need to get a move on before these storms take their toll

[@garrettclark2054]

Did you look at the bottom of the pallet they look to around 4X6 or so. Most pallets have some type of hard wood. You seem to be getting on with the engines OK. If I were you I would ware a mask when doing fiberglass. In years to come you wilh wish you had. Good sailing. Gman

[@RedSeas]

Yeah, we wear masks most of the time but it’s one of those thinks we slip up on if we have spoken to the camera and then get on with the glassing. We will get there but plenty of learning on the job still to go 😊

[@latitudeash]

You guys do it better than the pro’s. It’s more entertaining…

[@RedSeas]

Yes, what you are seeing is a bit like Chinese whispers. A bad imitation of the right way to do things.

[@latitudeash]

Is it meant to be green like that? Epoxy is clear/ brownish?

[@RedSeas]

It’s a strange one but we did double check and apparently yes. Guess that’s how this brand like to stand out or something. It’s probably a chemical we don’t understand.

[@RichieKeane]

Morning quick question did you change the rigging to dyneema? How’s it been would you recommend for a mono that lives up north?

[@RedSeas]

That’s a project that we would love to do but haven’t yet. Dyneema rigging would be really cool for weight saving and ultimately cost and maintenance too. There are so many different ways to design it but we have some ideas. As for being up north, I guess the most important factor would be water ingress and freezing. In all honesty, we haven’t dont the researching enough yet to offer an opinion. But overall, we have heard nothing but good things about the concept. 😊

[@stevez7854]

Looks like a type of lovejoy coupling, been around for ever

[@RedSeas]

Cool. It’s great having the peace of mind that the transmission is somewhat protected.

[@anttilehtinen9460]

Why would the aluminium bars have to be one meter long? I lifted my nanni and the pieces I put were about 15cm in lenght each.

[@RedSeas]

Our goal would have been to dissipate the vibration and torsion load across the the full length of the engine bed. If it had been only a cm or two that we needed then we would have probably done smaller pads but given we needed to raise the engines so much more, we wanted to make sure the engine mounts were “working together” to dissipate the energy.

[@anttilehtinen9460]

@@RedSeas Makes sense. My plates only are 5mm thick, so it´s a different story.

[@latitudeash]

Bri running around as usual when turning the cat around. Who needs a gym…lol

[@RedSeas]

It’s one way to stay fit for sure. Let’s not make it a habit tho. Far to scary

[@juergenzenner4219]

Why you didn’t use the wood from the pallet?!

[@RedSeas]

Great question. The pallet was mainly soft wood like pine which would compress over time and also be really susceptible to rot from water ingress. So we wanted to get hard wood (like koa or teak). Hard wood marine ply was the best we could find so we soaked it in epoxy and the covered in glass for added strength.

[@juergenzenner4219]

@@RedSeas thanks for the answer and make sense !!👍

[@geraldforbes-s3k]

I have a Nanni in my yacht,sorry would not have one again!!!!!

[@RedSeas]

Sorry to hear that. We have been super impressed with their assistance so far. Have they been able to help you with your struggles?

[@dianne.murielrobidoux9008]

Wow ! I think there was less background music in this episode thus facilitate to pass your accent which is nice but you talk so fast + laughing all the time... Great team work anxious to hear the sound if these beautiful motors. Take care

[@RedSeas]

Ha yeah, that’s a Scottish trait sadly. I’m not sure but I think that if you were to play back any Scottish person at half speed you might find that they sound quite intelligent 😂 these puppies are so close to being ready to start up, we can’t wait!

[@dianne.murielrobidoux9008]

Ho yes the Scotties are very bright. My family hystory is great great grandfather O'Neil from Ireland and great great grandmother was born in Scotland jolly and happy people! My comment wasn't intended to criticize at all so sorry if I did my sincere apologies.

[@RedSeas]

Not at all 😃 we usually have to remind ourselves to talk a little slower when we get excited anyway. Can’t say we manage it a lot of the time tho 😂

[@robertdeuchar6199]

which model of Nanni engine are you using is it the N4 based on the the kubota block ???

[@RedSeas]

Yeah, we broke it down in our earlier episodes but we are installing a pair of N4.50. Super strong reliable Kubota based engines. 😀

[@robertdeuchar6199]

@@RedSeas I have a nanni N4 suggest you have one spare alternator and starter on board, no hurry mine went a 12000 hours and 13400 hours respectively total time at the moment is 15400 with only those two problems.

[@RedSeas]

I mean those are some good numbers to get to before needing to swap out some heavier components. I’ll take that as a good sign! 😀

[@davidlevitz3119]

HAPPY EASTER ! PRAYING FOR PROGRESS AND YOUR SAFETY ! A BOAT YARD MOTOR MAN TO GET FREE ADVICE WOULD NOT HURT ! THERE IS A LEOPARD BROKER NEAR YOU THAT HAS THE CONTACTS LOCALLY TO FIND YOU AN ADVISOR PERHAPS ,

[@RedSeas]

That’s a pretty big list. 😂 hope you had a great Easter. We had a fun day taking it easy which was really nice.

[@dyslexiusmaximus]

anyone know what the boat in the background at 3:04 is? looks cool

[@RedSeas]

It’s an older outremer. Pretty cool looking boat for sure.

[@dyslexiusmaximus]

@@RedSeasthanks! best of luck with the new engines

[@RedSeas]

You’re welcome. The cool print down the side was pretty special. Pretty fast boats too. Just not sure we would be able to make one a home. Slightly cramped inside and with a boat like that, I think you have to buy racing rigging for everything or you’re just weighing it down. 😂

[@danmorrison9219]

🙂

[@RedSeas]

👍

[@MrCybernick]

Are you two just taking you time doing this little job so you can eat more pizza...😂😂😂😂😂😂 Well done Red team..

[@RedSeas]

Well it spoils it if you say it out loud! 😂

[@MrCybernick]

What is the difference between a stupid person and a pizza? The stupid person is easy to cheat, and the second one is cheesy to eat…🎉

[@Cptstokes]

You guys at Tahiti Yacht Services? If so say hi to Pascal for me

[@RedSeas]

We can see them from here for sure. Will make sure to drop by and pass on your greetings. 😊

[@DonKealy]

Has Iain lost some weight?😅

[@RedSeas]

It’s amazing what all the stress can do I guess 😜

[@Vestige-j8t]

Wait he holds the camera and the girl does the hard work ?lol

[@RedSeas]

Team effort all the way. She does the chain hoist, he bends physics to his will 😂

[@latitudeash]

What’s 5cm between friends…lol

[@RedSeas]

If you know, you know 😂

[@Alan-R1971]

Clueless Question.... Could you not have used the timber from the crating and just glassed over it rather than cut all the plywood sheet? (no i didnt read all the comments to see if this was already asked either lol)

[@RedSeas]

Hey, it’s a good question. So the crate and pallet was made of soft wood like pine. We needed a solution that can handle water ingress without swelling or warping. Generally covering in glass does the lions share of the work do you are totally on the money in that regard. Usually it would be koa or teak used for this kind of thing…or metal. We didn’t have too many options here in Tahiti but hard wood marine ply was our best option. We just had to soak it in epoxy to ensure water damage doesn’t turn to rot

[@latitudeash]

Never a good idea to eye ball it… lol

[@RedSeas]

But that’s how we have done just about everything on this boat lol

[@latitudeash]

You are both old hands at this now

[@RedSeas]

Certainly feeling old after a few weeks of climbing around those engine bays