Two part writing for Horns with Fred Stickley - Session 1.

[@fredstickley]

Thanks Brett. I just started these tutorials, so hearing your positive feed-back inspires me as well. I have a half dozen more that haven't yet been posted. Thank you. FS

[@georgejanomusic]

frank! I’m going to send you music from my last album that I wrote horns on not knowing what you’ve taught me. Then I’ll send you the next album, and you’ll have a before and after to show how much your lessons helped. Great work man! Thank you

[@dainty1dainty]

Well done, Fred! Very clear explanations and good tips. Love the dog too 🐶

[@rockettroll1507]

Thanks for sharing these techniques!!

[@brendaboykin3281]

Thanx, Maestro 🌹🌹🌹

[@thesandu]

This is a useful intro for someone who knows little about horns but wants to add them to the band! Thanks!

[@fredstickley]

That's it! Thanks Dan

[@paulstein5196]

Hi Fred, great start for me. I play piano in a jazz quintet and want to start writing some bebop style riffs, so this is where I begin my new arranging career !

[@asgnyc1975]

Love your Videos Fred. Thanks for sharing!

[@Dekyiful]

Thank you Fred! Best wishes from Australia!

[@fredstickley]

+Dekyiful You're welcome. Enjoy.

[@fredstickley]

Hi Craig, Cmaj is the 1 chord in C and the note A in the voicing would be a 6th, so you have C6. 13th only happens on dominate or 5 chords when there's a flat 7th. The exception would be Blues where the 1 chord is dominate. thanks for the comment. FS

[@cgotsill]

Heh. Terminology aside, it's an A over a Cmaj. Just wondering if that note choice works in non-jazz settings, where the chords tend to be 1-3-5 or 1-3-5-7. I'll look elsewhere, but thank you very much for replying.

[@fredstickley]

Craig Gotsill Totally works. The last chord on the Beatle's "She Loves You" is a 6th chord. A great sound. Thanks FS

[@cgotsill]

Great! Thank you.

[@iandrummer1]

Fred Stickley hi mr stickley do you have any suggestions on books to read to help a musician get into arranging?

[@santimusica]

tanks for your time andsharing your knowledge, this is great for all of us living far away from big cities.

[@dharavshah1368]

Thank you Sir for your wonderful horn writing series..

[@fredstickley]

Dharav Shah You're welcome. Glad you're enjoying them.

[@frusseldiz]

Great idea for a video series. Thanks!

[@arikushijikimo6836]

Great lessons, not to mention entertaining! Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you so much, Fred.

[@tryggviorskarpheinsson2829]

Thank you for taking the time to do this. Very understandable!

[@Croot_Music]

I write electronic music and I started incorporating live horns in my mix. This has helped tremendously. Thank you.

[@fredstickley]

Dang! You stole my idea. Thanks Flavio. That sounds great. There's a channel on XM Radio that's called, The Chill that I like.

[@Dekyiful]

Cheers Fred....just what I was looking for.

[@pufferfish0567]

Thanks, this is great! A bass player and I have been kicking around a new project, and we had the discussion last night as to how to arrange horn parts. Viola! I find Fred Stickley!

[@fredstickley]

Great. Glad I could be of some assistance. How many horns are you planning on?

[@pufferfish0567]

Right now it's two, saxophone and trombone, but we are wanting to host a jazz jam and hoping to get more out of the woodworks. (I live in the middle of Texas and you can throw a rock in any direction and hit a guitar player. Piano players and horn players are like sasquatch. You hear rumors of them, but no one has really seen one.)

[@anwyllonmusic]

Thanks fred, making my through your series now, hopefully I can be at the end of them with new knowledge!

[@samlucas8472]

Awesome lesson series Fred, really helped with my degree course! Thanks.

[@timbo8921]

Thank you for this! Currently writing a composition. Very helpful.

[@jimhall8295]

Hi Fred I play trumpet along with my brother who plays tenor sax in a blues band (we are the only horns)we too like to play in octaves for the majority of the time, nice fat sound, but what we find works well when playing harmonies is if the tenor plays the top line. Like your videos.

[@GuitarlordJohnBurton]

Thanks Fred. Great video.

[@fredstickley]

You’re welcome. Sign up for my free ebook. Thank you

[@sylvesterpradeep2490]

That's a really cool lesson... Thank you...

[@fredstickley]

Glad you liked it. LMK if you have any Qs. FS

[@litobakzcozykc7616]

U da best! Thank u so much from Perú

[@fredstickley]

Thanks Loa. Know others in Peru. Hope to make it ther one day. FS

[@BigJplkoplko]

Awesome. Cheers man.

[@MarqueeMarkVI]

Thanks..very helpfull

[@fredstickley]

You're very welcome

[@Henkkamachine]

Thank you Sir!

[@Ilovetosingem]

Hi Fred. Brilliant info. The first real arranging I've seen. Just one thing, I have been learning about Descants 3rds and 6ths and I have been led to believe that they should match the chord. In C as your E F and G as yours. But not starting on A, as it's not part of the chord, unless you make it C6. What is your opinion. Thanks and keep safe.

[@petersimms8290]

Hi Fred. Have you considered giving a lesson on the subject of syncopation.

[@markmarsden9459]

Hi Fred, before even arranging for the brass section I’m wondering about how much brass to put in , as I don’t want every tune to sound the same and I generally think less is more. Though I don’t want the brass players twiddling their thumbs. I’m looking at The Zombies She’s Not There which doesn’t have any brass in the original. Brass would make it more punchy and jazzy, but may obscure the nice organ sound. Do you ever think one of your pieces doesn’t need brass? Thanks for any advice.

[@fredstickley]

Oh ya, I have many tunes with no horns. But, many of the arranging techniques still apply. What determines whether I use horns or not is style and economics. Do I wanna be a "horn-band" or not? Am I doing a tribute band, say, Chicago or TOwerOFPower. If you have horns they don't have to play through the whole tune. Depending, they'll need to rest their lips. Also, think about mixing it up. Use 1 horn playing, sax or trumpet and have them play as a section with the guitar or keyboards. It's all about taste and your ideas. You can always rewrite or tweak your arrangements after the 1st listening. I believe in "Less is more" to a degree. Sometimes I think it's an excuse for folks that don't know what they're doing. Have fun.

[@markmarsden9459]

Great, thanks Fred

[@scentline]

Thank you so much for this lecture series, Mr. @UC9hM6r7Y9tvTDkUMqlJWCFg! I live in Albany, Oregon and hope to see your concert in Portland someday! :)

[@fredstickley]

Thank you JC. Yes, come up to Portland. The gigs are listed on my website. FredStickleyMusic.com Glad you're enjoying the series. LMK if you have any Qs. thanks FS

[@papathemc]

Also,if the baritone plays a 3rd below, can another sax play a 3rd below but an octave down?

[@fredstickley]

Typically the bari sax will be on the bottom of your voicing. Email me and I'll send my ebook. [e-mail] thanks FS

[@knucklesprayer]

¡Muchas gracias!

[@fredstickley]

You're very welcome.

[@claragary]

Thanks, nice class.

[@AndyDrudy]

Great. Thanks dude!

[@zionthelion73]

thanks!

[@SantaFeMusicVideos]

THANK YOU

[@richardoliver1303]

Thank you Fred. This is Rick Oliver Trumpet. I'm trying to develop a 4 or 5 way horn section jazz and r & b. I will contact you through e-mail.

[@jjdn43]

Great! Hope to be learning a lot from you. I actually wouldn't mind a few minutes longer hehe. Im sure it'd far helpful

[@BlasJohnny]

Nice

[@papathemc]

Hi Fred, thanks for this tutorial.Its really helpful.One question and its in regards to voicing.Can they move in parallels all the time?

[@fredstickley]

Yes you can. I send you my ebook. thanks FS

[@MrAmeerGado]

Thanks Fred .. I'm Watching your Videos .. it's so helpful . So .. Please what's the name of the track that you used in the start of this video ?

[@fredstickley]

+Ameer Gado That is a tune I wrote and arranged minus the vocal called, "West 23rd" which is a trendy shopping street here in NW Portland, The lyric that I wrote is about a love triangle between 2 shop owners and 1 employee. It's the 2nd to the last tune on my SoundCloud player on my website complete with vocals. fredstickleymusic.com Thanks for asking and glad you're enjoying the videos.

[@MrAmeerGado]

1st thanks dear for you Reply .. wow .. it's amazing With Vocal .. it it available with Chords ?

[@fredstickley]

+Ameer Gado Thanks. What you hear on the video is actually the bridge minus the vocals. That's yours truly on BGs. The latin unison thing. I've never thought of making the chart available on line. That could work. I'm going to do some more analyzing of charts for my horn friends.

[@princeofspeedz8408]

I don't know what kind of jazz band has horns... but I want in

[@biggestwave6126]

The trumpet plays CDE and the sax plays ABC. Isn't the sax playings sixths? You say it's a third below? I'm confused by this but I probably don't understand the correct terminology. And likewise when it's a third you're calling it sixth below. Can someone help me understand?!!! Thanks

[@fredstickley]

A third below is an octave below a sixth above. A, is a 3rd below C, and a 6th above C up an octave is A. Does that make sense?

[@biggestwave6126]

Thanks for the response! I guess the key is 3rd "BELOW". When I hear someone say third I'm always thinking in the case of C that would be E. @@fredstickley

[@fredstickley]

Yes, the sax is playing A, the sixth degree of the C major scale. Two notes that are a 3rd apart can happen anywhere in the scale. A 3rd is a specified distance between 2 notes. So A is a 3rd down from C. B is a 3rd down from D and so on. A major 3rd = 2 whole steps. A minor 3rd = 1 whole step and a half step. A 6th is an inverted 3rd. Does that help? thx FS

[@WilliamCarterII]

As a tenor sax player, I can def play higher than an Eb, haha but good stuff. :)

[@fredstickley]

Ha! I hear ya. I think I was referring to the horns best range for blending with other instruments. This would also depend on the player, so in your case it could be higher. thx FS Sign up for my ebook. www.fredstickleymusic.com

[@petersimms8290]

Great lesson Fred. I am a bit concerned that you are eating too many eggs.

[@michelle58ut]

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Fred you legend! This is EXACTLY what I’ve been looking for and needing. All my love and thanks, Alex ❤️

[@brendaboykin3281]

Thanx, Maestro 🌹🌹🌹

[@rordrom3234]

Thank you sir!