TWO PERSON INTERVIEW (HOW TO FILM IT)

[@lewispotts]

You guys are too kind!☺️ Definitely not mediocrity, I get so many gold nuggets of info! We'll have to make a video together next time I'm over there. Or lets say.. 5k likes on this comment for ELM to fly me to the US for a colab video😆

[@thomasmanning9111]

You’re the best!! At NAB everyone was talking about you

[@kolecava]

Indeedy Lewis, Luke Holliday, Kevin Reyes are deffo worth it 👌

[@BrunoAlmeidaFilmmaker]

That will be cool! Great content! :)

[@ElSenorMaracas]

Great ! 73 likes already !! So close guys !!! This is happening !!

[@flochfitness]

LFG!!!

[@kevinbatts2804]

This is literally all I do. Two person interview three cameras. Every bit of advice he gives is spot on. Even still do not subscribe to this channel.

[@EpicLightMedia]

Thanks so much!!!

[@badboujee]

+1

[@kilikdudley]

Haha! Nice

[@demiloca]

do NOT subscribe? huh?

[@soybrunomarin]

What I usually do when the budget is tight and for instance, there's only money for two cameras, is one goes to the wide angle (and funnily, we have been doing this clean plate to get the mics and lights closer for years, so now that I see it on your channel, I think we are doing things right haha), and then the other camera goes to the main speaker of the interview, a good closeup. then, at the end, I'd turn this camera to the interviewer and ask them to ask the questions again and then do some nodding and gestures in silence so we can cut them into the edit, so it looks that there's always three cameras. Usually it works like a charm, and in Spain, where I am based, a tight budget is waaaaay tighter than a tight budget in the US. You couldn't imagine how much, things are so different around here in terms of production money. Anyway, thanks a lot for your content! I love what you guys teach and how funny and ironic you are. BTW been following lewis for a while now and he is great! take care

[@TylerNeil]

Incredible video! Can you do a detailed video of how you lit the clean plate and then how you painted out the stands, etc.?

[@scottjohnnyhelgemoaune2951]

This is something I like about you. You’re not a KZbinr. You’re a filmmaker on KZbin. You know your shit, and I like that!

[@FrankNazario]

this is one of the best light and video channel I've come across in a long time... thank you for sharing.

[@kinoromantic]

It is not every time that you get the luxury of high ceilings - time and time again I found myself and the crew plus two people crammed in a tight space. Being able to raise your lights high up, or far enough from your subject, honestly just makes all the difference in the world.

[@xxphactor]

this is my normal interview lighting, except for a couple things. I don't like to use one's key as a backlight because it's not really a backlight. It's on the same side as the key so it's not adding anything. I use my grids to focus the key to that person. The strength of that boom arm is the key. I have boom arms that I bought years ago and they don't have teeth, so they slump under weight. I end up using sandbags or I rachet strap the boom from the hook to the legs which gives me comfort. Lately, I have been using a lantern ball in the middle of the chairs, and then use a big fill light (usually a 4x4) over the wide cam. I haven't had any issue with raccoon eyes doing it that way. Doing it this way also gives me a high key-like set.

[@timothymckean7869]

I'm impressed that your plate was able to be consistent enough to use given that you took away the lights. Somehow that didn't make it too dark. Good work! I like this idea of using a plate to clean up aspects of a shot that are static.

[@mrfryfilmguy]

Your lighting is great but your timing is impeccable..thankyou!

[@scottyzepplinphotography1188]

I swear, you guys are so underrated BUT i believ your content needs to be seen by those who it is meant for and not just anyone. You are special. I love you all the way from Zambia, Africa.

[@CNC-Time-Lapse]

I always appreciate a good refresher on lighting for an interview. Thank you.

[@EpicLightMedia]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@kevinmcroberts8527]

FWIW I always frame the OTS angles to give the option of a tight clean single and a dirty medium shot. Watching people talk to nobody off the side of frame just gives me the heebies. Aputure is definitely the best (at spamming their wares via KZbin creators).

[@prisual]

You can consider using prisual ptz camera for live broadcast and recording

[@anagram8]

You make the facts fun and funny! I don't know if I want to slap you upside your head or hug you...probably both in some weird order 😂! My producer is always rolling her eyes whenever I ask to order something because she knows it is going to be something related to darn lights! I light and back light everything in the studio and at home. I light and back light the plants, pillows, the dog's bowl, his bed and probably a few of his bones are lit up somewhere. I create shorts just to light something. Keep up the excellent presents.

[@BrysonWooden]

One of the best lighting setups I've learned is the back cross key lighting. Love the idea of removing the lights and boom mics with a clean plate. I'll have to utilize that in my next interview shoot!

[@YaleWall]

I don't know how you are always able to explain complex situations and make them sound crazy simple, while also being totally laid back, and still entertaining. Well done, bro!

[@niborski2997]

Like your self depricating style. I know the closer the key the softer it will be, and love it when one light can do two jobs, but moving your key lights just a bit further back though, would give you some more wrap around backlight. Good channel, thank you.

[@thidnascimento]

Another great video! Best channel about light in KZbin... After Lewis Potts, of course

[@YellowProductions]

Great video about how to film an interview! And I always love your humor!

[@ammarkhalaf7505]

I don't know what force is making me not to unsubscribe to this channel, I keep re-watching every video.

[@Mike0193Azul]

Very helpful and inspiring 💚 Would love to see more on how you remove the lights and stands from the background without the light changing on the background. Also a video on the other set up methods you mentioned, with mutliple cameras and sliders

[@x--.]

It did change the background, at least in the example they gave at the top of the video but not enough to be noticeable in the medium shots. The background art was far enough away where it seems like there wasn't a lot of spill from the big boxes. Still would have been interesting to see, tbh. Maybe a timelapse from the perspective of the big US flag ;)

[@The_CGA]

Seems like the kind of thing where shooting the clean plate as a still in RAW, using some strobes and getting a kind of multi exposure HDR. The real estate photo channels call this “flambient”

[@CarlosARuiz-hc7td]

Gracias por la inspiración

[@siegfried-TV]

i have this kind of shoot this coming weekend. Im glad i watched this beautiful guide. Thank you

[@maddentm]

Really useful video - thank you very much. Can you explain more about how to get the clean plate shot? If I take it without the lights and the boom mics, won't that show some different lighting compared to the rest of the interview?

[@mowomedia4801]

Thats sure a lot of space to work with. I wonder what the length and depth of this area setup.

[@shaggyburns]

My favorite camera setup is 7:22: looks most like an interview setup to me. The backlight helps, but maybe I'm having an issue with the temperature of the background. I like the original orange more than the cold blue.

[@ivanjermakov]

Yes, I also found it the most familiar. The backlight was disturbingly bright, and the main light was not soft enough. The first setup was most natural looking because it is, sunlight would make it even better, but obviously, it depends on the scene.

[@rezi31]

Thank you so much for this. I want to use this kind of setup for my upcoming podcast. I would like to ask how do you remove/delete the lights and mics with an empty shot. How do you edit it out? Thank you so much! ❤

[@EpicLightMedia]

You have to film the shot twice. One with the lights one without. Then you crop the image of the one with lights and have the one without underneath

[@elephantgrass631]

I've said this before and I'll say it again just to spite yowass. I'VE SUBSCRIBED TO YOUR CHANNEL AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP ME.

[@billycrowe4501]

Any ideas on shooting a 3 person interview? I have one coming up for a doc shoot.

[@samuelguce]

love the 2 light crossover, just wonder for us budget lighters if this crossover backlight style could be achieved with one light with an aputure lantern set back and in the middle of the 2 interviewees?

[@laurasparks2412]

How would you paint out the stands/mics if you were using a slider?

[@WhySteve]

Wow, I liked the little smug look when you said "intimate" and as a Stephen myself, it felt personal when you said "did you like how I used the word intimate, Steven?"

[@EpicLightMedia]

Hahahaha

[@JoATTech]

I wonder which Aperture model has been used in this setup exactly and at what power?

[@efravital3370]

Yes! Finally! Thank youuu!

[@BkSathesh]

Is there a tutorial on how you do the section between 9:36 - 9:42, please? Thank you

[@Kyle8y]

Really glad I subscribed to this channel before they closed off subscriptions. Mediocrity feels so safe

[@TouchLifeStudio]

I just filmed my BTS of how to shoot interviews, and it is not even close to the excellence of quality and info that you provide. I learn from guys like you. Thank you sooo much. Big fan!

[@Gabrielgrassmayr]

Thank you for showing me this. Rly struggled with lighting with these types of interviews

[@thedude6924]

Hey, thanks for the video! What I wonder about a two person interview is how you set the aperture and adjust the focus. I had it once where the focus was on one person and the other person was out of focus.

[@hopeforthefuturesg]

Awesome video and info man. Im fairly new to video and would love to know how you painted out the mics, lights and boom poles. Can you explain a little?

[@KIRKAUDIOVISUALREEL]

This is a Good one

[@iribmalaysia]

Thanks for this video and good information. If possible let me know more about the position of camera related to two persons during interview.

[@Bassquake76]

How would you get a clean plate when removing the lights? Itll look very different.

[@jasonbelkov3258]

Yes! Great question. What is the answer?

[@abdulrhmanahmed-i5l]

It was a very useful lesson, but I did not understand how to photograph the main camera, what the frame looks like, and how to get rid of the visible highlights in the main camera frame. Please explain that. Thank you very much.

[@Ali-pc9eb]

Im learning how to shoot an interview with myself and boom, I'm feeling so good to find your video, I saw the results about basic lighting and how important it is, thank you a lot for your videos .

[@EpicLightMedia]

Thanks!!!

[@rohitkrishnan4429]

Thank you for this ✨I.N.T.I.M.A.T.E✨ tutorial ❤

[@fernandocf1234]

Why not use a goal post instead of the kupo boom stand? Just wondering

[@kermitshamburger774]

I am a major fan of Epic Light Media. My set up includes multiple Bmpcc 6ks, Sigma art glass and multiple Aputure light Dome 2s. . . How do you measure for proper exposure with a ( simultaneous wide and tight shot ) multi camera set up? Especially for the really beautiful "Hi-Key" commercial look that you always produce.

[@academieconnexion4729]

Hello, why your 2 key light are behind the subject? I’m trying to do interviews but I checked Three point lighting, do you prefer others options?

[@DanielGrovePhoto]

Awesome stuff here! THANK YOU!!! Now I don't need to go to college, sweeet!

[@VictorTrifu]

Absolutely fantastic job! Thank you very much.

[@kamalsinnofilms]

Hi, do you remove all the gear using roto in after effects? Do you have a video on how to erase them? Can I use an rgb light to leghtup the background instead of the aputur nova?

[@LealconProduction]

The goat has spoken

[@mediafurrate8640]

Thanks for this. I have always enjoyed your on-camera energy & delivery... and the content has really stepped to a new level lately. It is really appreciated.

[@EpicLightMedia]

Thanks so much!!

[@yatdup3338]

You can't tell me what to do, FREEDOM! There, subscribed.

[@daniel.lopresti]

Only prob for me when relying on boom only mics (and particularly when they're really up close) is that it accentuates any slight movement of the interviewee, especially if they eg. lean forward (to pick up a glass of water) while speaking in a way that not just brings them further or closer to the mic (increased or decreased level) but brings them off axis to the directional mic which completely alters the frequency response, a much harder thing to fix. Of course then it's just a matter of instructing the subject on dos and donts.

[@VinceMcLennon]

This can be negated to some degree by using a high quality cardioid mic instead of a razor sharp hyper cardioid shotgun. This will be much more forgiving, and shouldn't negatively affect noise levels in a controlled environment. (Also parallel compression in post)

[@DontMakeMomCry]

@@VinceMcLennon I'm exploring this now. I've been jonesing to buy an MKH 50 since seeing ELM's video featuring it over a year back, but haven't made room in the budget. I had been considering testing a Sennheiser e614 (low cost super cardioid) but then ended up buying an e914, not realizing it's a regular cardioid pickup pattern. Just performed my first test yesterday...the 914 sounds fuller than my existing MKE600, though obviously doesn't offer the same noise rejection. -AW

[@daniel.lopresti]

@@VinceMcLennon Makes sense! One particular case where I had that issue was actually using a cardioid small diaphragm condenser, but it was probably also due to the interviewee moving way too much :) Yep parallel compression can be really helpful and transparent, quite simple too with the mix knob on my outboard compressors! (Yep I come from the audio/music world..)

[@daniel.lopresti]

@@DontMakeMomCry I'm not a production sound guy, but from what I've heard, "normal" cardioid is better for indoors, especially in close quarters, which makes sense since the more directional a mic is, the more the off-axis response is skewed ("coloured"), and probably introduces things like comb filtering, giving that boxy sound. The least directional pick-up pattern, the "ideal" omni-directional mic, picks up sound equally (ie. perfectly represents the source) from all directions.

[@MyMomDrank]

That is the whole theory behind the 10-12 inches rule: at this distance from the mic subtle movements won’t affect the audio in a detrimental way. Someone speaking while leaning in 12 inches (to grab a glass of water or something) is a large distance, and will need cleanup in post. But the principals are the same when recording vocals for a song: pop filter 3-4 inches from mic, mouth another 4-6 inches from pop filter. If the vocalist moves around to help accent their vocal performance the audio level and EQ won’t drastically change. Him saying “as close as you can” presupposes you’ve already considered keeping it out of frame, and the distance would inherently mean at least 6” to keep proper headroom. This is why they use shotgun mics because you aim it at the chin and if distanced and leveled correctly it will catch far less of excessive noise… having something that isn’t directional defeats the purpose and cannot fathom how that would be less work in post. If you’re at a level where you’re shooting 3 cameras, 5 lights and multiple audio sources, you should be treating the area to control audio quality as well even if that means just hanging moving blankets and throwing one on the floor to reduce reflections.

[@DirectedbyZ]

Great video and advice! Which Aputure product are you using for key lights?

[@brandanalan8975]

Subscribing just to show him. Sticking it to the man.

[@dgillphotos]

Lewis Potts - got it - thanks! I love the concept of "plating" the lights out. Again - brilliant work - keep it up - or maybe invite this Pitts guy to be a special guest star... that sounds good.

[@heinricheugenvonhelmbrecht6905]

This is not typical lighting, however, I like the result! Thank you.

[@fullshotmediaug]

This is the type of video i have always wanted to watch on the internet. I am working for a Tv station in Uganda all the interviews i shoot are 2 people.. thank you Epic light media kindly make a video of a talk show of 3 to 4 people thank you

[@EpicLightMedia]

Thanks!!!

[@szewendieu9553]

What's the tripod that was on the main camera? It's not a sachlter

[@kylemorgan740]

somehow i've never even considered getting a clean plate to paint out the gear. amazing

[@ankurdelight]

Thank you! I love the attitude, humor, and knowledge. Question: I have a small room (8x8) and want to do both in person interviews (2 people) and solocasts (1 person). All the lighting you mentioned will work for me, but can I do it with just the one wide angle camera? Do you happen to have a video on that?

[@consultmedia]

You guys rock! I learned so much from this channel. Greatings from the Netherlands.

[@bryanmatare5735]

how do you remove the lights and mics from the shot?

[@halfkoreanhalfamazing]

Thank you, this was very helpful. I'm wondering if I can pull something similar off with budget LEDs. This at least gave me a great idea on the basics. Subscribed

[@andrewlutes2048]

Boom mikes sound so good.

[@dnycewitchrist]

I think I did it wrong!!! I saw this video and wanted to subcribe again. That option wasn't availble so I pressed the like button??? lol (Broham, your vids are DOPE!!)

[@degriff]

Such excellent info in your videos. Superb! 👍

[@amouzouvistudio9042]

Love the way you coin your words goals people follow you

[@true-vessel2961]

Dude you're the best keep those lesson coming

[@alanniven8310]

Great production. What lenses did you use on this interview project?

[@EpicLightMedia]

Sigma cine zooms

[@HolisticMotion]

This was a great video. Commenting for the algorithm. Thank you.

[@scott_the_dreamer]

INTRO WAS HILARIOUS

[@MaikSchott]

Very inspirational and passionate - like always.

[@DontMakeMomCry]

So I love this video, and bought a pair of Kupo 546's because of it... but now, after loading one of them up with a similar fixture and softbox, I'd like to formally request a BTS of your team loading and raising them! 🤣 After loading and balancing with (with slightly less than maximum horizontal extension) these things are crazy to raise up. Testing today, it was the kind of thing that made me want to verify coverage terms in my commercial liability policy! Thanks again, great content! Intimate! -AW

[@EpicLightMedia]

Shoot!! Yeah it’s kinda a two person thing

[@TheFabel1337]

Hahaha 🤪 great instruction and great humour… “intimate”

[@adilrafiq91]

Another way to light (if you're getting the clean light anyways) is placing a lantern right in the middle with flags to the back of it to control the spill on the background. Like wise for the mics. There's plenty of space between the speakers and that would've saved you from setting up 2 lights and booming them over

[@flochfitness]

Great tip!

[@jm1jonas]

That way works if you're on a budget or short on time (been there, done that), but you loose the backlight, that's why Cross light is so common and pretty much a standard for 2 people interviews.

[@adilrafiq91]

@@jm1jonas indeed but these stands cost 400$ each which imo is way too much if spent for basic setups like this. Some relatively cheaper c stands can get the hairlight job done fairly easily. In such controlled environment, even Aputure MC's can do the job

[@storyfrontier]

Yeah that's how I did it too

[@GRMS_Ian]

Yeah I get it done with the budget lantern method too. I do like the crossed lights idea a lot! Thanks for the very interesting and entertaining video 👌🏻

[@trevgrossjr]

With the clean plate… how did you do that?

[@EpicLightMedia]

We had the guys walk out of the frame and we moved the lights out and we filmed for a little while and then in post we cropped the parts of the image with lights out and we put in the clean plate behind it

[@trevgrossjr]

@@EpicLightMedia ok that makes sense! going to give this a try on my next project. thank you!

[@SoundSpeeding]

Very good plan to paint out the booms! Cheers for promoting it, good to see more people using it.

[@EpicLightMedia]

Thanks!!! It’s important to know about

[@medallionmotionpictures]

Thomas thank you and your crew for sharing your wealth in production knowledge! This was extremely entertaining and highly informative on how to film a 2 person interview. One of the best on YT, y'all keep it exciting and fresh. The biggest take away for me is not the gear, which is always great to know, but it's about your signature style and technique fully breaking it down as to why you make the desicions from framing to lighting etc. Hay thanks again for the inspiration, look forward to learning more from EPIC LIGHT MEDIA and your HARDCORE MASTER CLASS.

[@EpicLightMedia]

Nicest comment ever thanks!!!!

[@adamdittrichone]

Funniest Video tutorial. Love the combination of learning and humor ❤

[@ericbelluche9503]

Informative and entertaining... thank you!!

[@noflavorimaging3335]

Lets goooo. Love your lighting videos!

[@seancreports]

That's TYR Tactical. Just shot a event there last month.

[@ofiravphotographer]

learned a lot, laughed even more, thank you!

[@danielcharlesfilms2897]

Amazing video and thanks for the tips.

[@sirravi]

Wonderful presentation ❤️ thanks a lot 🙏

[@NLGVIDEOS2]

What application did you use to remove the lights, mics etc.

[@LowellProductions]

Great video gentlemen. Cheers

[@learnwithabe]

loved it! Great job

[@placidemushongore593]

I really laughed a lot when he was joking around the word intimate 😅 you're really very funny,

[@tomasznowak4353]

Your Video poped out on the main page. Very good video, i like your style. Ive Subscribed you, dont be mad.

[@markmaina6680]

you guys are great

[@simonbolzdotcom]

Always the best!

[@alejandromedina3897]

I always hit the like button 3 times ;)

[@codee375]

Any reason you dont have a fill light? I mean you clearly don’t need it for but just wondering if you often don’t have a fill light.

[@EpicLightMedia]

I don’t use fill very often. I try to bring up ambience for fill and use a key so the light appears to be coming from one direction

[@Mohamed.Khoudair]

Man! This is so helpful. Thank you so much. 👏👏👏