Two shark attacks in Plettenberg Bay - why?! Shark scientists discuss (ft Shark Bytes!)

[@SHARKBYTES]

Thanks so much for having me on the channel! 🦈🦈🦈

[@Alcatrazrezz]

Terrific video Kris

[@TellysMarineTales]

Thanks so much for coming on, I really enjoyed our conversation!

[@sarahsunshine8455]

Quite the gentleman you are. As I figured you would be.

[@kevinmyles6369]

Possible really? 2 killer whales displacing whole population of Great Whites? How many sharks have been killed by them?

[@irallan]

Question for you both. Orcas and sharks have shown to be learned hunters. By that I mean different groups of the same species have different hunting methods which have developed over time and due to necessity. You kept saying that these attacks may have been due to poor sight conditions . If these sharks gave been displaced from the seal colony and are hungry they would be desperate for food and attack whatever they could. Here in Australia I grew up with the myth attacks only occured at sunset and sunrise due to poor light conditions. However it was illegal for people to swim in the ocean until those times. It wasn't until the 1950s and on that beach swimming became popular and since then daylight attacks have increased. Could it be that sharks are learning that when there natural food source is scarce that humans and beaches are an alternative source.

[@wildworld6264]

I've been a fan of both of you for quite some time, and seeing your collaboration in a single video was truly awesome. I highly commend the respectful and composed manner in which both of you tackled the discussion on the shark attacks. Looking forward to seeing you collaborate again in the future. Great video!

[@TellysMarineTales]

Thanks so much - I was so nervous of appearing insensitive about the issue. Next collab gotta be with you, how about it? 😀

[@wildworld6264]

@@TellysMarineTales Yeah I'd love to collab!

[@sarahsunshine8455]

He’s so humble! I’d definitely consider him an expert on the topic.

[@Sharktoz]

Fantastic talk here. I agree with you 2 that we should talk about shark attacks. Because if we don't, some else will, and they probably won't stick to the facts like we will. Do more of these.

[@TellysMarineTales]

Thanks so much, and yes I definitely agree with you!

[@Preppie-thirty]

Very interning guys...I live in Plett and was here during these 2 attacks. The whole community were shocked and sadened by these tragic deaths.

[@alancrossley509]

I lived in Knysna at the time and knew Tim Van Heerden well. RIP Tim

[@Omanjack]

Very interesting discussion, I think you both handled the topic with respect while keeping it as light hearted as possible.

[@danielbeck9191]

Thank you to both of you for this interesting and informative video. I agree with Telly's hypothesis that shark behavior is driven by hunger. The introduction of a large number of sharks would increase competition for food, so more sharks would venture out to nearby waters. Humans must remember to take extra care when they venture into the natural habitat of apex predators----marine or terrestrial.

[@Alcatrazrezz]

Wonderful video, I agree it is important to talk about shark attacks... also Kris sent me from his channel

[@TellysMarineTales]

Hello, thanks so much for your kind comment and welcome to the channel! My content is a little different from Kristian's, but I hope you're going to enjoy none-the-less!

[@rottweilerfun9520]

Kristian is the best Sharkman on KZbin !

[@TellysMarineTales]

Agreed!

[@ddraigmafon4725]

Great collaboration, Kris’s Shark Bytes channel is fantastic and now I’ve found your channel too!

[@TellysMarineTales]

Thanks so much and welcome to the channel! :)

[@LoveMae1222]

Found this from shark bytes! Gonna check out some videos now!! ❤

[@TellysMarineTales]

Welcome to the channel, I hope you enjoy!

[@escapism_io]

Such an informative and interesting conversation :)

[@TellysMarineTales]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@jksinorbit]

If you surf in Plett or surrounding areas you will know there are plenty sharks there. I have had numerous close calls there and know at least 3 guys who have been attacked with varying results from no injury to loss of limb

[@alexandersharp9057]

On Frazer Island which is protected - they have a photo of three sharks feeding in shin high water. There is nothing unusual about this behaviour especially if they are chasing bait fish.

[@pezzetinosharkmeister9505]

cool collab, guys

[@fusionfitnesswithpippajofi5889]

My cpr instructor told me about her friend she was the lady that passed away by the shark attack. I had never heard about it before.

[@gamingbutter5768]

Wait, this is the same area where it is advertised we can pay to swim with seals?

[@AJDraws]

I stopped surfing because of nearly being attacked by a shark in Melkbosstrand as a teen. In Jbay now and everyone I know surfs, but I still can't bring myself to go back in.

[@user-im7db9kn6u]

A KZbinr ( you may find him 👉 q_Q) posted a drone footage of a 14-16 footer In Plettenberg bay 🇿🇦 just right after the devastating attacks you mentioned in the video that occurred on Kimon Bisognio ´´ Kiki ´´ north of the resort beach a real tragedy ( you re right about the severity of her wounds ) and just 3 or 4 months before another one on Bruce Wolov two fatal attacks in short period of time. The fact is there had been no fatal attacks there since 2011 and within 4 months time 2 deadly attacks as you mentioned. Indeed you both mentioned the two main known reasons, one of the reason appeared to be there is a seal colony nearby and the other reason some of the sharks went south because of orcas herding chasing them down the coast ´ recently there is an increase activity off the coast of Cape Town along with the increasing seal population in Plettenberg bay. Apparently there were no warning signs on the beach where Kiki died ‘ they put it afterwards of course ‘ You both brought up interesting facts about what may have cause those two attacks to happen and unfortunately what may cause others to happen.. I really appreciate the fact that Christian is always trying to analyse calmly and scientifically facts leaving the sensational aside. You both did a great job here 👌 ❤ 🦈 You got a new subscriber 👍 😉

[@TellysMarineTales]

Thanks so much for your comment and I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Welcome to the channel :)

[@user-im7db9kn6u]

@@TellysMarineTales you re welcome 😉 Christian recently made a great video about Reunion island 🏝️ 🇫🇷 sharks attacks main factors, as a French person I was really glad he explained it so well, I left a comment describing a true fact that told me a local a friend of mine, a factor that no one mentioned 😉 have a look if you re interested ☝️ ❤️ 🦈

[@cc_1983]

Here recommended by Shark bytes!

[@TellysMarineTales]

Welcome! Hope you enjoy the content :)

[@MarioLamRedRebel]

I dont wanna be heartless but when you enter the water you are in there world. So i dont feel pain for people that get hurt by sharks or other animals that live there. Us humans think sometimes that we have first right but not thinking that we are not all top of the food chain. Greetings from the Netherlands and take care when enter the waters or wildernis.

[@colyntownsend9525]

With respect, you are way off the mark with your comment. Just because most dangerous land predators have been removed so the risk of you being eaten on a walk in your neighborhood is miniscule. Sharks dont own the ocean they occupy it with many other life forms. Perhaps where you come from the sea is extremely harsh and uninviting. And so your perspective about the ocean is limited.

[@sabatian1138]

"Bloody Killer Whales?" I love Orcas. Port and Starboard are rock stars in my eyes. Eat up, boys!

[@colyntownsend9525]

Its ironic that the theme is dont mess with the aquatic environment and when some humans get dispatched by whites its a tragedy explained away by a hypothesis or two. But when orcas come to town they are almost vilified. Why? Surely thats the natural order of things.Orcas simply restore the pecking order. They just don't predate on humans. Lucky for us.

[@shogunpxp]

Port and starboard caused it and that made bow and stern really pissed off

[@sixfootben4892]

They say getting attacked by a shark is as rare as getting struck by lightning. But are those odds including everyone or just people that go in the ocean ? I live in south Florida the lightning capital of the world and also a place with alot of sharks. You could probably get struck by lightning and struck by lightning on the same day. Me living in south Florida would make it pretty rare if I got eaten by a saltwater croc or attacked by a lion. If you are swimming where there are seals your odds of getting attacked by a white shark go up alot. If you're in their territory you're putting yourself at risk. Why are we so afraid to say shark eat people sometimes? That guy in Egypt got eaten by that tiger shark and I'm pretty sure the attacks a few years b4 also got Attacked by tiger sharks or even the same shark.

[@creepercrepe8910]

We don't like to say that sharks eat people because predatory incidents are incredibly rare. Most attacks are not predatory, as evidenced by the shark's loss of interest in the target after 1 or 2 bites. Although people have been eaten, such as in Egypt, such events are so newsworthy precisely because of how unusual they are.

[@sixfootben4892]

@@creepercrepe8910 you don't think maybe the reason we don't get eaten is because unlike most animals we save each other? If nobody rescued us who knows how many would be consumed?

[@creepercrepe8910]

@sixfootben4892 That certainly helps, but it's also about the behavior of the shark involved. They will see a person as food only if the person acts like food. To sharks, we are otherwise really weird, kind of scary, and not at all like their normal food. Unfortunately, sharks occasionally resolve their curiosity by taking a bite because that's how they analyze objects. Most sharks won't even try to return for a second bite once they realize that we don't taste like fish or seal.

[@sixfootben4892]

@@creepercrepe8910 that lady was attacked in waste deep water on her feet in clear shallow water. What do you think the shark thought she was? I'm sure that tiger shark in egypt new right away he wasn't eating a turtle.

[@creepercrepe8910]

@sixfootben4892 Unfortunately, you seem to have repeated a common and predictable blunder in situations like this. Throughout my replies, I have been clear that truly predatory incidents, such as the events in Egypt, are so newsworthy precisely because of their rarity. Yet, your reply seems to be aimed at a person trying to claim that Egypt was a case of mistaken identity. That person is not me, and you would know that if you had read my responses.

[@hedginbets7356]

Thank you, it's an interesting video! Kristian from Shark Bytes isn't a specialist in shark attacks as he says but a it's a bit lame that he didn't even bother doing a bit of basic research into the attacks there before your collaboration video.

[@TellysMarineTales]

I'm glad you enjoyed the video! I had specifically said to Kristian before we filmed that I wanted it to be more of a casual conversation, also there's not a lot of detail that was available online about the attacks so it's difficult to actually find information.

[@ODGreenZa]

I live in Johannesburg and I can hardly find much information on what happened a lot of the details I'm learning for this first time😊

[@hedginbets7356]

@@TellysMarineTales The GSAF and Tracking Sharks are good sources - both sites cover these attacks.

[@annoyingbstard9407]

Shark scientists! 😂!

[@jakhaughton1800]

Sharks belong in the sea; we don’t. So don’t think, unless you know what they’re doing, they will be safe. 91 million sharks a year are slaughtered for their fins then thrown back in the sea.

[@lifeglade]

I love white sharks, and I love killer whales even more, but Port and Starboard are a clear problem here.

[@TellysMarineTales]

Yes it is a tricky situation because our white sharks are in trouble, but the orcas are just trying to find food in a depleted ocean, I don't think there's a right or wrong answer here. But I know our government has said they will not consider 'euthanising' the orcas.

[@mrkipling2201]

The biggest problem is the overfishing of the fish in our oceans. Including sharks. We need to highly regulate the people doing the fishing, especially in certain places where fishing has depleted the fish population by a very noticeable amount. We can still turn it around and ensure the population of sharks and other fish will return in higher numbers. If we don't do it soon, then we won't be able to ensure their return.

[@alidabotes6264]

I loathe Orcas. The are the criminals.