Two Waterblocks... One GPU...

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JayzTwoCents

JayzTwoCents

Күн бұрын

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@opinionshurt2905
@opinionshurt2905 Жыл бұрын
Pro tip, use coffee filters to clean thermal pastes, not paper towels. They are lint free and wont tear when cleaning pcb’s.
@cerealport2726
@cerealport2726 Жыл бұрын
@@tobiasmaile5919 technically, they didn't specify that the filters should be un-used... (yes, it's a joke)
@opinionshurt2905
@opinionshurt2905 Жыл бұрын
@@tobiasmaile5919 if you havent joined the k-cup master race, you need to take a hard look at your life.
@AngelaTheSephira
@AngelaTheSephira Жыл бұрын
​@@opinionshurt2905Ouch.
@ItMeDwaeji
@ItMeDwaeji Жыл бұрын
@@opinionshurt2905 I’ve looked and decided I didn’t need to pour hot water through plastic and add BPA and phthalates to my coffee not to mention the added plastic waste to landfills. I’ll stick to a kettle and pour over filter.
@disguiseddv8ant486
@disguiseddv8ant486 Жыл бұрын
Pro tip: use maxi pads to clean thermal paste. Save your coffee filters and paper towels for what they're intended for.
@mammothkiwi
@mammothkiwi Жыл бұрын
Pro tip. Running the card on air at load for 30mins or so makes it easier to get the heatsink off the PCB. I also recently went with an alpha cool block and found that all the pads are cut to the correct size making it a lot easier than having to cut with EK
@paddy_924
@paddy_924 Жыл бұрын
Alphacool Stuff is just great :)
@qp2044
@qp2044 Жыл бұрын
I had purchased an alphacool block and was happy about that at well. Sadly it was broken in shipping and couldn't be replaced. The bykski that I was able to get had uncut pads like ek....just at a much more reasonable price
@SlickFootTito
@SlickFootTito Жыл бұрын
@@qp2044 why wouldnt alphacool warranty the block and replace it?
@qp2044
@qp2044 Жыл бұрын
@@SlickFootTito availability was an issue. I'm sure they would have replaced it at some point, but with an unknown wait a refund was preferable
@necmiozguven7092
@necmiozguven7092 Жыл бұрын
Creating temperature delta on applications are dangerous on sensitive materials. You gotta let the chip cool down to room temp after removing the heatsink. Application wise there might be no harm but technically anything heating or cooling fast are prone to internal cracks.
@PasiFourmyle
@PasiFourmyle Жыл бұрын
To get those magnetized covers off you just push in on one of the ends of the magnetized cover itself and it pops up for you to grab. There's space under the end of them for this purpose.
@Midz350i
@Midz350i Жыл бұрын
Jay always say he is stupid and at that moment I believed him. 😅
@PasiFourmyle
@PasiFourmyle Жыл бұрын
@@Midz350i The only reason I know that is because I watched EK's original showcase video when they first announced these. I'm not sure why they didn't include that in the manual since it could result in users damaging the product. Maybe it's there but I don't see it at quick glance.
@fynkozari9271
@fynkozari9271 Жыл бұрын
I use the expensive minus pad by thermal grizzly. The pink colored with textures.
@Midz350i
@Midz350i Жыл бұрын
@@PasiFourmyle The only annoying thing about that kit is the thermal pads. For that price they should have been pre-cut. I had to reopen it again and re-cut them so they don't show on the sides.
@PasiFourmyle
@PasiFourmyle Жыл бұрын
@@Midz350i Totally agree, I ended up having to do the same, thankfully I noticed it right when I put the block on and hadn't installed any screws yet. For how much effort they put in to making their stuff nice it would be nice to have the most annoying part of installation also not be a nightmare.
@Lustanda
@Lustanda Жыл бұрын
It would have make sense for the 3090 with memory chips at the back. For the 4090 it is basically burning and throwing money away going with an active backplate. And this is me with an active backplate 3090.
@LongNguyen-zc6vu
@LongNguyen-zc6vu Жыл бұрын
pretty sure people go for look since it looks better :D people who bought these are aware that they don't need active bp. In fact, 4000 series are already overkill, so they wouldn't need wc :}
@CaveWaverider
@CaveWaverider Жыл бұрын
Indeed. I have a Bykski waterblock with Active backplate on my 3090 and it makes a world of difference when it comes to memory temperatures. On a 4090 it really isn't needed at all.
@AnimeRoot
@AnimeRoot Жыл бұрын
@@CaveWaverider I also have a 3090 with the bykski doubleblock. It does wonders for keeping the memory on the top cool. The block is mega chonky, I had to mod my motherboard to get it to fit. And I agree, 4090 does not need active cooling on top; With nothing going on there.
@nizzen2
@nizzen2 Жыл бұрын
I have this block, and the backplate actual helps. 30c water and 39c gpu temp :) Pretty good delta
@ron200088
@ron200088 Жыл бұрын
@@Garrett1974 I agree, it is not necessarily needed. However, it might be useful if you pursue overclocking, which would only be natural in such a case. Der8auer just posted a video about some shady active cooling solutions to mount on the backplate of the gpu. He tested them with an RTX 4090 and one of them worked. It actually reduced the overall temperature and the GPU hotspot temperature by 4-5 degrees C. A professional solution like EK provides, will definitely show better improvement. It all depends on how much one is willing to spend.
@sk8xaq
@sk8xaq Жыл бұрын
Phil, cracking up behind the camera, is a fundamental part of these videos. This was very relaxing and enjoyable. Very appreciated.
@melkor3228
@melkor3228 Жыл бұрын
I dont know why but i find Jays videos so therapeutic
@hridayjain5888
@hridayjain5888 Жыл бұрын
True
@HEBEJEBE
@HEBEJEBE Жыл бұрын
23:06 PSA: Jay got the VRM setup a little wrong. Both banks of VRMs he pointed to are Vcore. The Vmem is a 4 phase and the phases are split up surrounding the memory chips and between the Vcore VRM
@InfiniteImp42
@InfiniteImp42 Жыл бұрын
I upgraded 3 3090 cards with active backplate waterblocks. One block was EK, the other two were Bykski. After having done that, I really can't justify spending the money on EK blocks. The Bykski blocks ran within 2 degrees of the EK on both memory and GPU and at approx half the cost. While I really do prefer the look of EK's blocks, for the price/performance I can't justify the 4090 one.
@eriknastovski1330
@eriknastovski1330 Жыл бұрын
You also have to count that EK innovated with this, and Bykski just came and copied it. Innovating costs in design and R&D money. Not counting the support you wont get from Bykski.
@haptikgames
@haptikgames Жыл бұрын
These are the types of videos I love. Learning how to watercool from someone who has done it for years!
@mihaitha
@mihaitha Жыл бұрын
The "wiped too aggressively" thing reminds me of an old gem: "Today I got in touch with my inner self. I am never buying cheap toilet paper ever again."
@c.m.7037
@c.m.7037 Жыл бұрын
LOL @ putting Doug in there for "THISSS!!"
@ulfvinr9364
@ulfvinr9364 Жыл бұрын
When you were applying the thermal pads for the active backplate (the backside of the GPU) you forgot to add some small pads to the 'top' and 'bottom' sides of the central chip. That could cause problems due to lack of any active airflow to remove the heat. And it doesn't look like there'll be much passive airflow inside, too, for heat removal.
@scorpmatt42
@scorpmatt42 Жыл бұрын
I noticed this too. Let's hope they went in and fixed the oops.
@mh13mini
@mh13mini Жыл бұрын
either you're right or they got it off camera
@LandonAaronp
@LandonAaronp Жыл бұрын
Top and bottom part sides of the central chip? Where exactly are you talking about. I saw him put a thermal pad directly behind the chip. Where else should he put a pad? Curious because this is exactly how I placed pads on my 3080 with an active backplate.
@julienmarschall7518
@julienmarschall7518 Жыл бұрын
I have never seen a card taken apart before and i could not describe my face when he held this little board in his hand and said that this is the 4090. Legit 98% just for cooling😂
@Crowfist
@Crowfist Жыл бұрын
Yeah thats what happens when you shove... What equates to half a horsepower of wattage through a sliver of plastic.
@martinbank_
@martinbank_ Жыл бұрын
I just love that Jay made perfect tutorial on how to mount active backplate to 4090 as if everyone was going to buy this combo 😂
@nanielwolf5768
@nanielwolf5768 Жыл бұрын
Him not explaining to remove film from pads was a big oversight tho. So far from perfect.
@statusqo1
@statusqo1 Жыл бұрын
having installed over 50 water block in my "career" i can say with confidence that one of the sides of EK thermal pads are a absolutely NIGHTMARE to remove. i always order Thermalright Odyssey anytime i have to assemble a Water-cooled system . Also @Bpro He might be reviewing it in exchange of getting it for free
@Vittrich
@Vittrich Жыл бұрын
@@statusqo1 as a someone who used EK Stuff for almost 20 years, it is really infuriating those pads are not pre-cut and have this stupid, almost unremovable film on one side, especially for the premium that EK charges compares to other manufacturers.
@ianbrown3304
@ianbrown3304 Жыл бұрын
Marvellous stuff , I've bought 4. So its porridge for the next couple of months. However, I will now be cool on both sides.
@RazielXSR
@RazielXSR Жыл бұрын
Just when no one was asking if they needed to cool the backplate of their card, both Jay and Der8eur make videos about backplate coolers within 24 hours of each other.
@mikep8953
@mikep8953 Жыл бұрын
loving the extra detail when walking us through the process. thank you jay
@emilyshabang
@emilyshabang Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see his friends build when it's finished. Esp would like to see the comparison between the GPU temps, to see if there's any difference in the two different water block's performances
@adamjacobs8606
@adamjacobs8606 Жыл бұрын
As someone with a 4090 with the EK ABP... NOPE no real benefit
@Xabiroo
@Xabiroo Жыл бұрын
it can bolt the in and out be on the front or the back of the block don’t need to be crossed also, those magnetic plates can be removed by pressing one of the sides i have the one for rtx 4090 FE with active back plate
@timhogan7911
@timhogan7911 Жыл бұрын
Like the thorough video even if it is long. I've done this a few times now but great review for a first timer and never hurts to have a refresher on new cards especially when they cost as much as an entire system so you don't screw something up
@Khazandar
@Khazandar Жыл бұрын
Long? Half an hour isn't remotely long.
@troyhunter4740
@troyhunter4740 Жыл бұрын
videos too long? .. have you got other things you need to be doing instead?
@Crowfist
@Crowfist Жыл бұрын
@@Khazandar things are relative. Some people's time is more valuable than yours.
@Skenderbeuismyhero
@Skenderbeuismyhero Жыл бұрын
I took apart a used 6700xt and replaced all the pads with putty and I've been really happy with the heatsink performance. The fans never need to get higher than 70% no matter how hard I've pushed it and the gpu hotspot never goes above 75°. It does seem like putty and paste work way better than pads.
@zenosfire
@zenosfire Жыл бұрын
i know it might not be possible, but i'd love to see an actual comparison of the active back plate vs not active backplate on performance. keep up the good work JTC team!
@rvndy1668
@rvndy1668 Жыл бұрын
this
@codesymphony
@codesymphony Жыл бұрын
we really don't need the comparison. improvement will be marginal. if someone wants to spend the money they're going to spend the money
@saleh3521
@saleh3521 Жыл бұрын
12:28 not really. Not all cards had that bracket. Some AIBs like Inno3d didnt use them on high-end cards like the 3080, 3080 ti, 3090.
@Kiazhin
@Kiazhin Жыл бұрын
The overflex 5000 water cooling system. Only for the biggest whales with the deepest pockets.
@eliadbu
@eliadbu Жыл бұрын
I remember a time when you could buy full cover from EK for 130-150$ and backplate for more 30-40$ prices are gone way up for EK. I guess I'll look for other manufacturers like alphacool and aquacomputers when I'll need a GPU block.
@KevinM0890
@KevinM0890 Жыл бұрын
i got a full cover block from ek for my gtx285 für 90€ in 2009
@lorsch.
@lorsch. Жыл бұрын
Price went up, quality down
@sznikers
@sznikers Жыл бұрын
Single use 500$ block. I see no point. Custom wc is already expensive for small benefit so its only worth to put money in it cause you can keep loop for years while cpu's/gpu's/mobo's are becoming obsolete and swapped.
@The_Legend117
@The_Legend117 2 ай бұрын
dont cheap out
@disrealnow9664
@disrealnow9664 3 ай бұрын
Main thing not addressed - some higher end cards like the 3090 have memory modules on the back / backplate side which run hot and thats why you should consider the water block.
@NzStumpyTech
@NzStumpyTech Жыл бұрын
wow! That is an EXPENSIVE part to buy considering it is 100% for aesthetic purposes essentially given the air coolers on the 40 series are more than sufficient..😮
@ASSASSINlutent
@ASSASSINlutent Жыл бұрын
quick tip for people wanting to keep track of screws in their active plate builds take some cardboard and use a marker and sketch out the layout of the card and screws and poke the screws into the cardboard, wont lose em, they wont roll and you'll know where they belong.
@rueggly2367
@rueggly2367 Жыл бұрын
I have the active backplate for my 4090 TUF OC in plexi and I'm just happy with it. It looks pretty cool with both sides lighted up (vertical mounted). The normal one is just so thin in my opinion. And, from what I experienced, there is less heat in the case, bc there is no backplate transporting the heat from GPU into case (which it does even if there are no chips on the back). All the heat is transported away from the parts and blown out of the case. The inner of my case stays pretty cool, even on long gaming sessions and in warm ambient. There is no heat building up between GPU and Motherboard. And yes, I know, the block was 400€ here in EU, but rly. The parts for my PC costs me ~9.000€, so I don't care about 200€ more for the active backplate version of the GPU-block 🤷‍♂
@farmertrueVR
@farmertrueVR Жыл бұрын
When you spend $9,000+ on a system, and want the best of the best, what is an extra $200-ish dollars? It's your money and you more than likely worked hard to earn that. Treat yo'self. I'd rather spend the extra 2% of total cost to have that ease of mind knowing that you have the best possible cooling for your pc. I have a TUF OC 4090 as well and have been wanting to do a custom cooling kit for it since before I purchased on launch. But it is already a beast of a card and have not yet made that jump. Videos like these help nudge me closer to actually making that jump. Enjoy your build man. I bet it's a beauty and a beast.
@rueggly2367
@rueggly2367 Жыл бұрын
@@farmertrueVR Hm ye, I know the 4090 is a beast, even under air. But I cool my PC with water, I always did. Its just a special experience while building such a pc and I just like to watch the finished build on my desk, it makes me happy. I dont like all those 0815 builds looking the same, I always want to have a build that is not like all the others, you know? I built the pc end of last year and I bought just the best that was available on the market, I mean I have fans for like 600€, so why not the active backplate for 400? :D Im pretty happy with it and I think, it will last for some years. If not, Im going to build a new one. Ye, Im working hard for my money and its not just a hobby, its a bit more to me. Thanks for your nice words and yes, it is a beauty and a beast. Its a clean and mean machine :P
@The_Dreadbug
@The_Dreadbug Жыл бұрын
Can I ask, what motherboard are you using in your build? I want to use this waterblock, but I'm worried about the clearance between the card slot and the motherboard heatsinks.
@rueggly2367
@rueggly2367 Жыл бұрын
@@The_Dreadbug I used the Z790 Extreme first. Since it broke down Im using the Z790 Hero. Case is the 7000D Airflow.
@mr.not.so.perfect.666
@mr.not.so.perfect.666 Жыл бұрын
13:30, I use a Hot air gun over the rear PCB to heat it up slightly which allows the thermal pads to heat up a bit which allows the card to come off the air cooler a bit easier, or twist it slightly rather than pushing or pulling straight up.
@EuphyPlays
@EuphyPlays Жыл бұрын
0:53 Why did i see Doug DeMuro here?! THHHHHHHHHHHHIS!!!
@Romans-hn9hu
@Romans-hn9hu Жыл бұрын
THIS meme was str8 bussin frfr no cap
@SjXoXo
@SjXoXo Жыл бұрын
Would definitely like to see you make a video in regard to an A,B test for this.
@Blizzard5050
@Blizzard5050 Жыл бұрын
This is an interesting companion piece to Debaur’s latest vid where he tried some Ali Express active backplate coolers on air. Would be interesting to see if it actually makes a difference when going full water on both sides.
@rustler08
@rustler08 Жыл бұрын
Remember, the entire point of a product like this is for XOC. Heat impacts stability, and the more you can cool these components the further you can push the card for those world-record benchmarks. It will obviously make a difference, but it's not going to be a difference you're going to care about while gaming on a 4090. It mattered more for something like the 3090 with its poorly-placed VRAM
@logandeathrage6945
@logandeathrage6945 Жыл бұрын
After seeing 1k watt 4090s on stock air cooling this is just overkill unless you are going as silent as possible.
@narfsc2657
@narfsc2657 Жыл бұрын
i guess you never custom watercooled a GPU? Backplates are not helping with temperatures in any way when your GPU is custom watercooled, unless there is vram on its backside. The whole card while being custom watercooled is cold to the touch already from only cooling it from one side, there isnt any improvement, if anything most backplates make it worse because most of them require you to mount your block slightly different.
@TheRealYeller
@TheRealYeller Жыл бұрын
I still remember the days of Jay begging ifixit to sponsor the channel and the hype you guys guys were on when you finally got it. Its a good product for SURE
@opiumextract2934
@opiumextract2934 Жыл бұрын
I thought the ABP was first introduced for the 3090
@jaketherake8262
@jaketherake8262 Жыл бұрын
I just picked up an ABP for the 3080ti (don't know if it was introduced later though)
@danielparks9035
@danielparks9035 Жыл бұрын
It was. The point was mainly to help cool the memory chips on the back of the card. Now it's just exists to make ek more money because it's completely unnecessary since there are no memory chips on the back of any 40 series gpus. I mean it will help a little, but eh
@Menesenha
@Menesenha Жыл бұрын
I went with this option on my 4090 TUF back in December 2022; my theory being that it would help with the heat soak across the back of the board. And it really does. In a non-load situation I sit at 28C, in normal gaming conditions I'm between 32-35C, and under full-load max 2077 settings for 2+ hours I can't get it above 45C. The ABP option is amazing. Granted, I'm using a 65x480mm Thermaltake rad just for the GPU, and a separate one for the CPU, so the head dissipation is amazing, but regardless I still heavily stand by this product.
@spqr-sardaukar
@spqr-sardaukar Жыл бұрын
Super helpful vid for me personally. Jumping into custom water cooling for the 1st time and just bought the same card/block. Yes...totally blew my work bonus for my PC obsession! 😳 Anyway...thanks Jay and team for demoing this, and for all your water cooling vids. They inspired me to get into it.
@dismuter_yt
@dismuter_yt Жыл бұрын
Cool, but don't buy the one with the active backplate, it's a complete waste of money. It was only useful for the particular case of the 3090 which had memory chips on the back that would benefit from active cooling. The 4000 series do not have that, they do not require active backplate cooling at all.
@ron200088
@ron200088 Жыл бұрын
@@dismuter_yt I agree, it is not necessarily needed. However, it might be useful if you pursue overclocking, which would only be natural in such a case. Der8auer just posted a video about some shady active cooling solutions to mount on the backplate of the gpu. He tested them with an RTX 4090 and one of them worked. It actually reduced the overall temperature and the GPU hotspot temperature by 4-5 degrees C. A professional solution like EK provides, will definitely show better improvement.
@arklight1670
@arklight1670 Жыл бұрын
​@@ron200088it would have been interesting if he removed the back plate and put those coolers on the gpu.
@habilain
@habilain Жыл бұрын
Scientist here: adding one degree to room temperature does not add one degree to component temperature; assuming only temperature changes, it adds a bit *more* than a degree. The actual amount it adds will vary on a lot of other parameters, but it comes down to hot air being less dense than cold air and (combined with the increased starting temperature) having less capacity to take heat from the hot components of the system.
@ffwast
@ffwast Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile the 3090ti dual waterblock is ~$200. Almost like the pricing of this is just gouging for whales.
@moxbroker
@moxbroker Жыл бұрын
Silly comment, but Iwent through so many screwdrivers in my life until I got my iFixit kit(same he’s using). It’s got every bit I need for smaller stuff and they’re so good I haven’t needed to sharpen or replace any bits. Well worth the $20 I spent to pick it up.
@notmatt5864
@notmatt5864 Жыл бұрын
Jay I beg to differ about the waterblock on a mid range gpu. I had a limited budget and was looking to watercool a sff build. I bought a 3060 and then 2 months later I spent the $110 and bought a waterblock. I appreciate you perspective but not everyone is in the same position you are in.
@Cuttlef15h
@Cuttlef15h Жыл бұрын
so $400 USD is equivalent to $110?
@ryanj610
@ryanj610 Жыл бұрын
So you spent $110 to get 5% performance from an overclock, instead of 25% performance by getting a better card? I mean id you're watercooling just to watercool, that's fine, but it's pointless from a cost effectiveness perspective.
@notmatt5864
@notmatt5864 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanj610 I am not really interested in overclocking truth be told. I enjoy building watercooled rigs. If I overclock it's for like 10 minute while I run a benchmark.
@BlackHoleForge
@BlackHoleForge Жыл бұрын
Linus and Alex needed this for that graphics card they overvolted. This product will be needed in the future, if power consumption needs continue.
@wolphin732
@wolphin732 Жыл бұрын
EK has a torque limiting screwdriver I have to say that made it nice, and the iFixit kit bits also work with it, so you don't overtorque things.
@TheHoofn
@TheHoofn Жыл бұрын
I have the same pairing Asus 4090 Strix extreme OC lwith EKWB-AB-4090 used with Z790 EVGA kinkpin. I opted to place it in the second slot. The kingpin slots are both Gen5 and X16. I disabled Slot 1 using the dip switches. Same performance in the lower slot and it cleared so my water pump fits I also have EK first active back plate and it was last year on my 3090ti. It didnt come out this gen it was last gen. The evga 3090ti on ABP looks so good.
@jakobbv1071
@jakobbv1071 Жыл бұрын
Would you review the waterblock for the 7900xtx red Devil from EKWB?
@xxMIKExxSMITHxx
@xxMIKExxSMITHxx Жыл бұрын
So glad you made this video. I am about to start this same exact setup in my Lian Li DK05F. Keep up the good work!!!
@georgeindestructible
@georgeindestructible Жыл бұрын
This is literally the perfect way to spread the paste, i always do it like this to ensure 100% it's going everywhere, i also clean the previous one from the corners so the crusty paste there doesn't act like a thermal insulator to any kind of air which might have come there to help with cooling and i also try to have as much as new paste as it barely needs on the edges of the chip so it doesn't spill for the same reason.
@snozz2004
@snozz2004 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be better (& cheaper) to mount a few 80mm fans to the top side?
@TehEv0
@TehEv0 Жыл бұрын
The termninals on the newer Vector 2 ABP (40 Series) cards doesn't require you to have one front and one on a back port. They can be both front, or both back and it will operate just fine. Older ones for the 30 series are the ones restricted like that.
@R3TR0ACTIV
@R3TR0ACTIV Жыл бұрын
I 100% agree you do have the best ads for iFixit. You are the reason why I am trying to get myself to kits one of the big ones and one of them mini2go ones
@TimLongson
@TimLongson Жыл бұрын
Really excited to see the active backplate plate water cooling RTX4090 , thank you! But why wouldn't you go for the acrylic option, so you get beautiful RBG and can see the fluid move even when directly mounted toca motherboard? Also, do any other trustworthy custom waterloop companies make a version of these active backplate RTX4090 blocks for less than EK? And if so, is there a difference in cooling?
@the_terrorizer
@the_terrorizer Жыл бұрын
I have a 4080 (msi gaming x trio) with the EK block (without the active backplate), and it fits on the Asus Maximus Extreme board. FYI it idles around 20-25C and I haven’t been able to push it past 50 C with any modern games (given I haven’t tried Cyberpunk lol). Don’t worry about an active backplate unless you’re overclocking and plan on skipping the next 2 GPU gens.
@kingchaor7815
@kingchaor7815 Жыл бұрын
bottom middle screw on the front side by the pcb where it plugs in the pcie slot looks like its back out some i had to go around mine 4090 block when i built mine a fews ago for the same issue other than that its been a solid block its actually my first liquid cooled build ever with alot of parts you show off in videos
@xOviDx
@xOviDx Жыл бұрын
The 180-adapter from cablemod fits just fine with this combo (strix 4090 + ekwb ABP), fwiw.
@backnforth8401
@backnforth8401 Жыл бұрын
I love it when youtubers do 'phrases' that are iconic from other youtubers.
@2wheelmaniacrides
@2wheelmaniacrides Жыл бұрын
As someone who has dual 3090's with Dual ABP waterblocks i love them, but the 3090's has the Memory on the back and when mining they would get super hot this cut my temps in half. IDK if i would do it with a 4090 personally
@christianabad9982
@christianabad9982 Жыл бұрын
That Doug impression at the beginning though. THHHIIIISSSSSS....
@cihiris2206
@cihiris2206 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great instructions on how to install this! Tip: Not related to how this was done, but definitely use a graphic card support bracket ($10) when installing a factory 4090 in general. The connectors have been cracking all the way through the board after a while which destroys the card for good. They’re heavy!
@zbrkesbris5987
@zbrkesbris5987 Жыл бұрын
if there is a spot to cool on the backside of PCB - it is (backside of) memory chips. And i haven't seen pads for some of them during Jay's installation although they ARE in the manual. RTFM!
@maddmethod5880
@maddmethod5880 Жыл бұрын
fun fact, the plastic wrench EK gives you also fits tightening down their fittings
@zacj4162
@zacj4162 Жыл бұрын
looking forward to see the rig all this goes into
@toddhambo
@toddhambo Жыл бұрын
I personally have this ABP waterblock and I love it. I don't mind paying so much for something that is so overkill. I consider this one of my hobbies. I blow money of high end parts for my car too that some might also consider overkill. In fact the more overkill the more I typically want it. Something I can say about this actual system is that when I installed, my o-rings were faulty and I had to use the extra set that came with the parts. I could not hold pressure and finally chased it down to the 2 o-rings they instruct you to take out and put back in. Almost like they know its not going to pass. Ultimately I'm extremely satisfied with the performance. I have two 360 rads running in a custom loop cooling my cpu as well with a GPU temp @ 30C (38 hot spot) and a coolant temp between 28-30C. Was considering using the KPX stuff but went with the thermal pads first and I am not at all regretting that decision. Even with the pads the thermals look great. Great video keep them coming!
@DaquonL
@DaquonL Жыл бұрын
Are those temps idle or under load?
@toddhambo
@toddhambo Жыл бұрын
@@DaquonL after a few hours under load playing games.
@jayjohnson8190
@jayjohnson8190 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video ! Can't wait to see how it performs. TY
@roach362
@roach362 Жыл бұрын
I've installed plenty of EK blocks now, always a fun time putting the thermal pads on, especially when they send multiple thicknesses all in the one bag. I thought they used to come with pre-cut pads, but I may be thinking of XSPCs old blocks.
@TinyChrisTV
@TinyChrisTV Жыл бұрын
Did something go wrong with your Direct Die Cooler? There was no followup Video and many people are having problems with bad mounts and thermal throttling.
@michaelthompson9798
@michaelthompson9798 Жыл бұрын
I’ve used EKWB three times in recent generations RTX2080Ti (missing pieces = screw & fittings), RTX3080 (only received about 1/3 of the thermal pads and a broken plastic hex key for the chrome caps’) and an RTX4090 (few missing screws and leaking from GPU connector end). There’s clearly QC issues with EK and for their pricing, I’d expect perfection! I’ve given up on spending $1k’s AUD on EKWB and gone with Bykski …. Waaaay cheaper, cools exceptionally well and smaller block overall. I’ve had issues too with EKWB with trying to get said missing parts and will only go with Bykski WB now and I’m happy!
Жыл бұрын
The SMD ceramic components are not Resistors, they are Capacitors. Generally speaking SMD Ceramic Capacitors are brown and resistors are black (exceptions do exist). Also resistors can often have a code on them telling you there value, capacitors usually do not. And because there not resistors and rather caps they dont need the thermal pads on the back for cooling. What needs cooling is everything on the "other" side, VRM, GPU, RAM. The active backplate just pulls heat "trough" the PCB, because a lot of components like RAM do dump there heat in there primarily. And the ceramic SMD components do not step down any voltage but rather smooth out any ripple because they are capacitors. SMD ceramic capacitors have very low ESR, (equivalent series resistance) so they can respond to fast and spiky voltage changes, thats also why you usually have a ton of them at the backside of the GPU.
@shotokanads3325
@shotokanads3325 Жыл бұрын
I have an ABP full set on a EVGA 3080Ti, weighs a ton but does drop temps. Due to the weight (think its about 7.5 Ibs) had to vertically mount it. It just about fits with an Asus Z790 but still allows clearance for a P360MP radiator in the bottom of a Lian Li 011D XL with fans. Only negative is the PCIE cable Gen 4.0, it pushes up against the back block with some resistance. I used the EKWB vertical bracket (expensive but good) and that came with a 200mm. I had to buy a 150mm cable to avoid the push back and its all OK.
@D1craigRob
@D1craigRob Жыл бұрын
ive never cleaned the ram chips with alcohol, but i dont hang my card upside down before putting it together so no chance of the pads falling off.
@FenixPlaystation
@FenixPlaystation Жыл бұрын
Jay at 7:45 you mentioned "with all the asus stuff going on recently" can you clarify, should we be avoiding asus motherboards?
@lorsch.
@lorsch. Жыл бұрын
You could still use that m.2 slot in a rigid tubing build if you use a m.2 drive with a preinstalled heatsink. Remove the large heatsink of the motherboard, then the slot is much easier to access, even between an active gpu backplate and a cpu monoblock.
@mippengbg
@mippengbg Жыл бұрын
on the "second side" the gap-pad was on cut in the middle but then not used after the video cut.. A misstake that was not declared?
@AtteroDominatus
@AtteroDominatus Жыл бұрын
The anti-sag bracket can also be an issue depending on which style you have. It might also be an issue mounting horizontally because it might hit the side glass... I have an O11 dynamic xl and it hits the side glass... That block is also smaller than the one for the 3080/3090. I know this because I also went overkill for my evga ftw3 3080ti.
@UFR00lz
@UFR00lz Жыл бұрын
To remove thermal paste, just push to to the side, rather than peeling it off. Wont break and can be retained for later use.
@2506Larry
@2506Larry Жыл бұрын
What about an "in & out on each side? Seems to me it would more efficient cooling.
@k20Fritz
@k20Fritz Жыл бұрын
Jay can you confirm these can be used for a 4080fe as ekwb said no. They have for 4080 strip tuf but not fe
@PasiFourmyle
@PasiFourmyle Жыл бұрын
The thing about this gpu is that it's so efficient it's only going to get hot if your running 4k Max settings and or unlocked framerate. 60fps is not an issue for heat unless you're doing something with pathtracing.
@rick5078
@rick5078 Жыл бұрын
Lint free nail wipes are super cheap, around $7 for 1000 wipes, and the great thing is that they do not leave fibers behind. Plus they resist tearing a lot better than paper towels or coffee filters. Also, even better than using thermal pads, would be to use good quality thermal putty. No hassle in cutting pads to size and making sure you have the right thickness pads. Even provides better thermal transfer rates than thermal pads while needing to be replaced a lot less often.
@rustler08
@rustler08 Жыл бұрын
If you can, rotate the PCB rather that prying. That way you can break free the adhesion without potentially damaging the PCB (which can happen)
@BoboAthanassion
@BoboAthanassion Жыл бұрын
You mentioned the thermal paste your using. Is artic silver 5 still okay to use. Your pro's and con's would be greatly appreciated on the difference between the two pastes.
@wolphin732
@wolphin732 Жыл бұрын
The VRMs and Chokes... on mine, the smaller chips are actually just the right size to use the excess from the larger ones, so instead of doing a centre cut, doing an off-set cut uses one pad per side.
@francisinman8039
@francisinman8039 8 ай бұрын
Question: does having a thermal pad that's cut to wide cause the heat to transfer all over the thermal pad and not directly go into the heatsink or will the pad only transfer to the heatsink? Just wondering for efficiency pondering
@MBarton-m4r
@MBarton-m4r Жыл бұрын
Everyone probably knows this but different screws have different conductive properties. Seems obvious until you take apart an av receiver and you have a bunch of the same screw but three types of metal or coating. I'm assuming it has to do with carbon content like the frames of cars. One screw can be the difference in your subwoofer not working or fm antenna not working
@outlet6989
@outlet6989 Жыл бұрын
You keep saying, "Don't over-tighten." You might say, "EKWB sells a torque screwdriver to prevent over-tightening of the screws." They cost about $50.00, with shipping, and are worth the price. Keep up the excellent work, and maybe one day, I'll teach you a new trick. I use an old-style ice cube tray to hold my screws and other small parts. Also, I keep it in place using VELCO strips.
@rtyler1869
@rtyler1869 Жыл бұрын
jay, I agree. I wanted to get a Corsair block when I did my EVGA 3090 Ti but couldn’t because Corsair didn’t make on 😢😢😢😢😢 so went to EK for a vetor2 which is a good block, but a f’in pain to install
@gucky4717
@gucky4717 Жыл бұрын
Active backplate MAY bring some degrees, but it is not needed...unless you have VRAM on the backside like the 3090.
@formbi
@formbi Жыл бұрын
11:30 I recommend taking a piece of cardboard, punching holes in the pattern from the device and sticking the screws in said holes
@theftking
@theftking Жыл бұрын
$450 water block for a card that already has little to no thermal limitations with the stock heatsink? Lol. I guess it might make sense for SFF but gl powering that thing and fitting the rads.
@skyfox777
@skyfox777 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the breakdown I like videos like these. If I need a walk through with tips these kinds of videos help a lot
@ddesfos
@ddesfos Жыл бұрын
What the heck?! The iFixit electric screw driver isn’t available on their Canadian website 😢
@erickaldarondo1133
@erickaldarondo1133 8 ай бұрын
Question : As a Car Enthusiast also they make a waterless fluid for Radiators would that work in a (ie) Water cooled PC System ???
@PHDarren
@PHDarren Жыл бұрын
29:58 Why colour them on the diagram if you they don't have different coloured backing? Since they are all blue, mistakes could be made.
@scarfacewop
@scarfacewop Жыл бұрын
great video! i have that water block on my MSI Suprim 4090.. works great and has amazing temp performances.
@wolphin732
@wolphin732 Жыл бұрын
@JayzTowCents - Have you ever tried the ArctiClean Thermal Grease Remover and Purifier? I have a set and using it works great to clean and get all the residues easily, and only need a few drops. I have had it for years and have yet to run out.
@nemtudom5074
@nemtudom5074 Жыл бұрын
30:58 Im not an electrical engineer but i doubt resistors step voltage down
@FrankenKarn
@FrankenKarn Жыл бұрын
im considering watercooling my system with a custom loop, was curious how long that hardware lasts. not the water inside but how long will the fittings last before they start leaking
@newlifetrucking8
@newlifetrucking8 Жыл бұрын
jaaayyyy omg🤣 that Doug demuro plug made my week🤣🤣🤣🤣 big kudos 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
@Dina_tankar_mina_ord
@Dina_tankar_mina_ord Жыл бұрын
If you haven't already, and if you have a closed-loop AIO already on the graphics card and it needs repair of a switcharoo, are there any videos on how to do that
@jimmyQW9welB6Sm90cHNy
@jimmyQW9welB6Sm90cHNy Жыл бұрын
I needed this product because I'm constantly being hunted by a kill team equipped with thermal optics, so the extra cooling makes a considerable diffrence
@fattyusmcchubbs9200
@fattyusmcchubbs9200 Жыл бұрын
Used to watch saabkyle a lot years ago. Was my fav car youtuber as a teenager.
@JasonVanPatten
@JasonVanPatten Жыл бұрын
I did this for my 3090FE: I first had EK's half-ass active back plate, and then later upgraded to the fully active back plate. It didn't make a hell of a lot of difference, even with OC'ing the VRAM like I was. And in total, the card, main block, and back plate together weighed almost 7lbs. I *had* to use an internal support beam for it. It'd destroy the PCI-E slot otherwise. With the 4090FE, I went with EK's standard block and passive back plate.
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