Two Yarn Joining Methods - The Magic Knot & The Russian Join!

[@faziasingh9675]

You ARE the grand high whatchamacallit of crochet. The absolutely most patient brilliant teacher. I'm lucky to have found your site

[@emilyharrison3788]

You know how some people sit there and talk for ten min about the thing they are about to show you? Well you don't do that. You say, "I'm going to show you a thing, this is what it's called and now I'm going to show you how it works" I FREAKING LOVE AND APPRECIATE THAT ABOUT YOU! I will never have listen to another droning self involved*constantly patting the work while they go on and on, ridiculously irritating instructional video ever again because of you. Thank you for your service and your focus and your on task-ness that makes me able to remember what I'm here to learn in the first place. Sincerely, All humans with whatever is wrong with my brain.

[@chek63225]

I really enjoy your tutorials, I love your way of talking, so natural and...you make me laugh with your funny little sounds. I hate knots too and I use the Russian method but yours here is slowly different and certainly much better than how I've done it till now: I will certainly keep in mind. Thank you so much! ❤️

[@mairhoskins181]

Thank you for sharing ,I also like the way you go straight to it without rattling on and on.xx

[@sijabalderbak1697]

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[@afshanimtiaz8176]

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[@dorisoliver2813]

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[@judygay2638]

Just taught an old lady that has crocheted for 60 year a new trick. Thank you.

[@sharongladfelter7429]

I've been crocheting over 50 years and was never shown these methods, Thank you Fiber Spider. I love these join methods.

[@gudruncrittendon6070]

This is utterly amazing! Thank you for your detailed and wonderful demonstration of this joining method! After watching the two methods, I think it may depend on the type of yarn used, thick or thin, that one may lend itself better than the other. I love learning clever new techniques at 78 years old.

[@sunnyafternoon807]

I am SO with you! After 55 years of crocheting, it is soooooo cool to learn nifty new tricks like this one (these two!).

[@patphares6258]

Your approach to making the joins as simple as can be is appreciated…. Alleluia!❤❤

[@carolmeinhardt8227]

Hi Craig and everyone. I really like that you explained both in one video. I was always concerned about knots too. I learned to crochet the basics from my mother as young girl. Now as an experienced crocheter I adopted a combination or of these two joins. I use the magic knot along with the Russian join. I start with the magic knot and leave a long tail on both ends. Then, weave those in to ensure a secure hold. It works brilliantly. I've only had to look to see if any trimming is needed after the first wash on any of the garments or projects I've done. I sell many, and make many for my family. The kids wear get the most wear and tear, and washes. Not one of them has come unraveled, or look frazzled where the joins occur. I am the only one that knows where those are in the project/garment. They lay flat for most part, or are hidden. With working in my tails as I crochet I often do not have go back to weave them in. It is so nice to have these tutorials to share with friends that are learning to crochet, and I'm saving them to show my granddaughter who I'm teaching chains and how to hold her yarn for tension. She's five years old. I feel so priveldged to pass the love of fiber arts and skills on to her. When I cannot be with her it is really great that I can send her videos like yours in the future for her continued learning.

[@amydavis4945]

Thank you!!! I've known how to do the invisible knot (I use Aileen's Fabric glue that is both **stretchable** and **clear** to set it for extra peace of mind). I've heard of the Russian knot but have never seen how it's done. This is great and honestly there are times either one would be better than the other, so it always great having "more than one pony in the stable". Thank you also for just getting to the point!!! No wasted time here; very refreshing!

[@toodie535]

The magic knot is the first half of a complete Reef Knot, and the Russian Join is just a classic rope splice technique, so you're half way to your Knots Badge, in the Scouts! good on ya.

[@emilyharrison3788]

Lmao

[@idkmd6288]

this comment is pretty wholesome

[@VeraSeiman]

8ky0ok LdgDY

[@phaedraknoeller4482]

Wow good thing you are here to know everything for everyone

[@teceyS3]

@@phaedraknoeller4482 well, he did ask for other's suggestions 🤣

[@marywalters7968]

You give the best directions and video! There aren't any tv sewing and crochet programs in my area. You are my only hope.

[@zingirl6167]

You are AMAZING 🤩! I have been crocheting and knitting for ummm 🤔 50 years and this is the best way to tie yarn together EVER!!!💞 Thank you for showing this. I absolutely love it. You ROCK!

[@snoopyrule]

This video just popped up in my feed and I'm so happy it did. Not only did I learn about the Russian join but I discovered you and your truly fun, funny and refreshing tutorials! I've been a knitter for years but there is always something new to learn. Thank you for being you and keep up the great work!

[@camillefoote5678]

OMG! What an ingenious way to do the Russian Join! I've avoided it due to difficulty getting the needle down the center of the yarn strand. WOW! Thank you so much for this tutorial!

[@mangot589]

I just started using it on a blanket I’m making, and it works like a charm👍. It’s super easy.

[@char8059]

@Camille Foote. I agree. I like this Russian Join example much more than others I've seen. Skipping strands seems easier than trying to go down the exact center of the plies of yarn. Thanks again for coming to the rescue, Fiber Spider! 🕷️🕸️🕷️🕸️🕷️🕷️🕷️

[@shirley9240]

I started Tunisian crochet and don’t like how knots looks. The Russian join will be perfect! Love your weave method! Looks so much neater than trying to stick the needle down the middle. Thank you!

[@lj8945]

Best tutorial on the Russian knot I've seen. I think the "weaving" in and out of strands will make it even stronger. Thank you!

[@gclepine]

This was very helpful and I want to thank you for the instructions for such a great way to join two pieces of yarn without any bulk. I think I like the Russian one best. I always hate regular knots and this is exactly what I needed to eliminate those bulky knots. Thank you VERY MUCH!

[@cathryncampbell8555]

Thank you for a leisurely & clearly photographed video. You explained and demonstrated how to do these two joins, & I am *Sold* on the virtues of the Russian Join!

[@Cgough1948]

Thank you, thank you, thank you! I will never do the magic knot again. You have made the Russian Join so do-able , and have demonstrated how much more secure it is! Muah! 😘

[@roxannaweaver2155]

I've been crocheting off and on since I was 8 years old - I'm 69 now - and this is the FIRST time I have ever seen these two ways of joining presented. I was taught to use the overhand knot to join my threads. This video is in my saved stash.

[@stitchniche2339]

Thank you for your kind words, I am happy to be of help finding new techniques or ideas

[@cookie761]

You didn't know what to call that first Knot. Most of us call it a "granny" knot! Thank you so much for your video! God bless you. I do a lot of circular knitting machine work for charity. I can't see that I could use either one of these in that case, but it's good to know how to do those in other situations.

[@leafaulks2477]

Thank you for the "scooching down" explanation. I tried following other people's example but couldn't get it right until I found yours. Thank you again!

[@Momsaidwow]

a huge big thank you for showing us theses joins. I'm a learner and this has helped so much

[@MrsHyde1018]

When I heard the “I wasn’t a club scout, so I don’t know the exact name of the knot” I felt that. 😂

[@GiamarieSaponaro]

You made this magic knot so much easier for me to understand. Knots make me nervous to but, I do multiple things with my joins at the same time so this is great. Sometimes you (or just me) can't do other types of joins with super fine yarn. Thank you so much 🥰

[@juliedawson3086]

This might have just changed my life ❤️ thanks so much for talking it through so gently. I hate sewing in ends.

[@bobbidehaan3401]

I could bow at your feet, I would! Your magic knot tutorial is the ONLY one I've been able to replicate after trying other tutorials ad nauseam, not to mention the anxiety I've suffered. Truly, I can't thank you enough for your willingness to share your expertise.

[@patriciabrown4906]

Well hi fiber spider…. I am mimiodella from Atlanta, Georgia. Thank you so much for suggesting the Russian Join method. I will attempt to crochet a Mandala Afghan this winter…. This will be a wonderful join method for my project. I made my granddaughter a granny square too this summer and oh WOW do I wish I knew about this method. I just hate KNOTS…. And you know how many changes there are in a small granny square….. Wow, thanks a MILLION BUNCHES for the tutorial….. and happy yarning!!!!!

[@curtriceennis2924]

Had seen both knots on separate videos, but, enjoyed how you took the time to explain each step. Specially on the Russian Join Knot when you showed how to "weave" the needle into the yarn instead of just "pushing" it down the strand. Thank you for showing us your techniques.

[@joannmoorebreathtolifecoaching]

I much prefer the Russian method - I use it on all kinds of yarns. Seamless & solid. Thanks for sharing! Have a magical day!!

[@Jennifer-oz8ec]

Thank you so much for your direct style of explaining and illustrating. I saw another video showing me the Russian Join a few months ago and it didn't work for me first time. So I haven't picked up the join I wanted to work on till I saw your video title having also watched a Magic Knot video. I just followed along with you and mission accomplished!!!! I didn't have to put my knitting away to look for yet another video. Kudos to your style of teaching. Now I can get on with it!!!!!

[@patriciaparker3800]

Love how you demonstrate each process. I have used the Russian join. Somehow I have pulled the yarn apart but now I see my mistake. Thank you so much.

[@marysunday1329]

I have never used the Russian knot but since I seen how simple it is, I will start using it right away! Take care.

[@ezaspi]

Thank you. You are such a perfectionist. I totally agree about the knots, I am afraid of the garment falling apart after washing. Your explanations are always very comprehensive.

[@wyomingwips7540]

Thank You!! For this tutorial. It makes it where there is a little more work while crocheting, but in the end you don't have so many ends to tie off. Thanks Again!!

[@heatheryovanoff6361]

So, I was ready to try the magic knot. I watched you first once - then I get hold of the two strands of yarn and do it all by myself. I'm 75 and when little I was a Brownie - and it just came hurtling back to me. It's called a reef knot. It works a treat on knitting. Thanks! 🌷

[@mattiemartin1857]

Thank you so much. This is a new way to me and absolutely wonderful. I have been crocheting for years, but when I was learning there was no internet tutorials. So I am making up for all of those years in ignorance..lol

[@katewells-gonzalez404]

Thank you! Your voice is very pleasant and your teaching style is so easy to follow. 🙂

[@ksea6565]

O. M . G . Thank you so much i came by your video by chance I was looking up crochet stitches I have been OCD about knots forever I can’t believe I never knew this. Anyway thanx this will change my life 😃

[@suethomas6877]

Thank you for showing and explaining the Russian Join, you have made it look easy by how you’ve explained how to do it.......thank you so much xxxxx I’m not a lover of knots but couldn’t get the hang of the Russian Join. I will be trying this a few times with some scrap yarn/wool to get the hang of it 😃😃😃😃😃 Have a good day 😃

[@AllTheHappySquirrels]

Thank you for saving my precious! I just had a mishap with some beautiful, fiddly, lightweight artisan yarn while winding it and really didn't want to throw a square knot in the middle of my skein when I had to cut it. It got caught in the mechanism of my swift and I couldn't free it, but the Russian join saved the day! I've struggled with the technique before, but your suggestion of weaving between the plys was so helpful! Girl Scout and mountaineer here, your knot game is great! The magic knot looks a lot like a fisherman's knot, just missing an extra wrap on each side. A square knot will also hold really tightly but you still have the dreaded bump, which is fine for a lot of things, but not my favorite in expensive yarn.

[@sabrinachristensen8414]

I don’t know how many times I’ve seen your video now for the Russian Join, but it’s a lot. Thank you SO MUCH for saving my sanity!

[@fidgetyvip1]

I’ve been weaving my ends in for 45 years and always leave every last one of them until the very end of my project because I hate weaving them in so much. I can’t wait to try the Russian Join method! I am very excited to learn it. Thank you, so much!

[@margies5625]

I weave mine in, too.

[@SeliahK]

1:00 Magic Knot 5:10 Russian Join Thanks for this video. I'm paranoid about my knots, too. The second technique looks really promising. Thanks!

[@maristanback6651]

This is so helpful, straight to the point, and your voice is soothing. Love, love, love this video.

[@lorihoch3097]

I've seen this done by several others, and this video explained the knots much better. Also the Russian join method was explained much better and appears to be easier than other I have tried. I will give this a try. Thank you.

[@rosesperfumelace]

Nice! I have seen the magic knot but not the Russian join. Great to have options. Thank you!

[@pamelaheath5298]

Oh my gosh! The Russian Join method is BRILLIANT! I’m with you, the knots give me anxiety thinking all my hard work could fall apart if that knot gives out. The Russian Join seems infallible and once woven into the fabric of your design, virtually invisible as well! Thank you for the great explanation and tutorial!

[@rabidlittlehipppy6237]

Having had a magic knot come undone with catastrophic effect I've been doing the knot but leaving the tails and crocheting them or weaving them in which is just not fun. This Russian join will be my new best crochet friend. Thank you.

[@69peridot]

I've had that same issue too. I've been looking for so many ways join the ends of my skeins of yarn. I've also have another channel that might help called nastasia. She has great, easy, step-by-step directions of many, many projects.

[@NitaDeGuzman]

When you tie knots and pull yarn close to it's breaking point during tightening the knots, the yarn loses its elasticity. During use of a blanket or whatever, over time, the yarn at the knots become the weakest points and snap. This is the reason why I stopped using the magic circle at the beginning of round projects. ☹️

[@ianandmaureen9518]

I always use the Russian knot, much safer.

[@mangot589]

Thank you! I was always wondering if these would hold up over time, but thanks to comments, I feel confident. It will make the edge (you all know the one) with stripes so much nicer looking. Plus the dreaded weaving in! And you’re right, the Russian looks much less worrisome. Update. Used the Russian join. Perfect! Easy. I love it. Oh how I wish I had discovered it 10 blankets/projects ago! Oh well I know now! No more knots and weaving! Thanks again😽

[@dianaland1807]

Crochet crowd crochet along

[@PP-zr9be]

Thank You for making it so easy to understand. I wholeheartedly agree with Emily about the way YOU teach. Thanks also for taking your time ,to create these videos.

[@susannevanmierlo6341]

Thank you for this video. I just used the Russian joint to connect the next skein of yarn to the shawl I am making. For this, I do not trust the magic knot enough. The Russian joint was easy with your explanation.

[@kerrynwright]

I'm the same..... not game to use the magic knot on my projects.😉 I haven't been game to use the Russian knot either, but I can see that you'll be crocheting over the ends, which will make them much more secure.👍 Blessings from South Australia💕🐨

[@christinasanson5405]

Omg I did it!!!! Thank you so much. I'm just learning to read crochet patterns and needed to join some yarn. I'm so excited. It did take some practice but the third time was a charm.

[@crochetingisaart8439]

I use the 1st one all the time. It's never came undone for me. Thanks for sharing

[@virginiasomerville1195]

Thank you. This is such a simple way to join eliminating the ugly tails that take so much extra time to sew in.

[@maggien2632]

OMG! Thank you! I have had so much trouble with the Russian Join, but prefer to use it. Your technique has made it so much more stable for me! I really can't thank you enough. Love your videos too! You're a great instructor. Thanks for sharing!

[@ninarani461]

I generally use a mix of both. I knot it, then weave the ends back through.

[@nicolemcbride3769]

Lol, I was thinking of doing this. I have trust issues and don't think I could trust each one on its own 🙃

[@conniecaes2718]

Enjoyed your video. Your demonstration is easy to follow without a lot of unneeded verbiage and delivered with a happy and soothing voice. Would love to see some of your finished projects and know more about who you are. Looking forward to more videos.

[@barbarasd1196]

Thank you! for saying you prefer the Russian join. I was wondering which of your two demonstrations I should use, but giving the Russian join your stamp of approval has convinced me that is the one to use. Thank, thank you! Barbara

[@stacygeorge7078]

Wow thanks for sharing this. I’ve never heard of the Russian knot. In fact I hate using knots. If I get a knot in my yarn from factory I always cut it out because (now I may be paranoid because I know it’s there) but I can always see and feel the knot no matter how tiny it is. But I will definitely be trying this Russian knot. Thanks again. Love your channel btw. You have quite a few unique blankets that I’m dying to try.

[@zomb1622]

I like your version of the Russian join best of all I've seen, seems like weaving it that way is stronger, thanks for showing

[@diannekalk481]

I like the Russian join because there is no hard lump formed from this. Thank you.

[@jaimeshoe841]

00⁰pop pi⁰00

[@SusyQ8228]

Thank you for such a wonderful alternative to a magic knot and for the easy to follow instructions .

[@joyvalle1]

This is the first time I have seen the Russian Knot because, for me, the Magic Knot has worked consistently without a problem. I do appreciate the video and the method of tying the Russian Knot . It is something else to try. Maybe it will turn out to be my favorite method. Love your channel and all the great tutorials you do.

[@cindynavarro2852]

I like the Magic Knot technique, except instead of clipping the ends, I smooth them down and "work over my tails" for a few stitches. That way I'm extra sure the knot does not come out. But I'm going to try the Russian Join just to say I tried it. Love you for giving us this tutorial.

[@RedBloodyDog2023]

my new favourite word is "scootch". Another great tutorial. Thank you very much

[@MatchmakerAnnRobbins]

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! Finally a great tutorial on joining yarn! I have always struggled with this! Now, my yarn joins perfectly! You rock!

[@joannalong8852]

I finally learned how to join yarn. Because of you. Your voice is understandable , and amazing

[@susanm2381]

Thank you for sharing. I hate joining colors or more yarn. I kinda wing-it and hope for the best. Now I have two ways to try. Thanks again

[@ellenhofer3343]

Ta That's how I do it, too!.. usually I add a row of single crochet arounx the edge or a row of shells so it doesn't look so bad.

[@RaechelleBennett782]

Hi Spider, I haven't seen either knot before. Guess I'd better watch more YT videos. Lol. I just use the reef knot, leaving 3 - inch ends that I work in. Never, ever comes undone. It's the right over left, left over right, then tighten well. The knot becomes so small that it is barely palpable. If it is a slippery yarn, I tie one more knot (3 in total). Right over left, left over right, right over left. Pull tight. This knot tightens itself with any future tension. It's quite handy. If I'm using a particularly shiny yarn that is not more than two or less ply, I tie the reef knot, pull it snug but not where it becomes a hard bump, leave the ends 5 inches each and work them into my work. Not noticeable and will not come apart. I will try the Russian knot. I can see where it won't work on one ply or, chenille, etc. so it's good to know a few great join methods. LOVE YOUR TUTORIALS! 👍 👏 ✌

[@RavenClaw-js1mt]

Yes!!!!!! Finally something that will get rid of bulky knots in my color change.... the Russian method will be my new technique moving forward.... thank you for sharing. This is a huge help for me😊😊😊😊

[@patriciawatkins6367]

I've used the Russian join for years.. I love it..I haven't tried the magic knot.. I also learned a method to join that uses no needles and doesn't have a knot.. You take both ends of the yarn, and twist them to unravel them..I unravel about five inches...Next place the unravel ed yarns one on top of the other, now you press the strands all intertwined and twist the yarns back together. They are now all in the length of yarn.. I twist the yarn until t is the thickness of one yarn. There is no bumps or knots and no stray lengths of yarn to trim off.

[@jennifersapp1649]

Is this method only for wool yarns or will this work on smoother yarns like bamboo, silks, and acrylic blends?

[@adrury0601]

Sounds like a spur splice without the spit. Not really grasping how it holds together

[@Cat-qo3ht]

I've only seen it work well with wools. I don't see how acrylics, etc would stick together but perhaps the OP has success using that method with other non-wool yarns.

[@ileneklayman3440]

This is a great way to do the Russian. I have watched many people do it but you explained it so well I am going to try it your way next time I need to add a new color or just more yarn to a project. Thank you

[@SusanMenendez]

Love learning the Russian method. I also freak about the knot coming undone! Thank you!!!

[@lubear413]

I like the magic knot and use it all the time. If you take out one stitch just before a change you can easily do this knot, it’s tiny but mighty and then it just seamlessly goes into you crochet with your color change. I’ll give the join a try but it seems like much more work and time. Thanks

[@kathyegbert6532]

BEAUTIFUL! Nice, clean Russian knot. Thanks so much!

[@chriswhittaker1926]

I feel the same way about knots. I've used the Russian join before and it works great. It's no more thick than if you have weave in the ends

[@maggiedennis2004]

I'm going to try it.

[@dizzylizzy7582]

I just tried the Russian join recently and I doubt anyone would see the join in my work. Ty for sharing your knowledge.

[@jillmondt5398]

I missed you Fiber Spider. I am glad you showed back up on my search. 👍

[@atelierl4423]

This even worked on some ultra fine yarn I'm working with. Thanks for your willingness to share your knowledge, Mr. Spider ;-)

[@StudioJanet]

Ended up using the Russian join because my magic not, once I trimmed the tails, with a slight pull it came right apart! Yikes. The Russian join was perfect and not bulky at all. Thank you so much for this great video. Janet x

[@sj6919]

Just as you were starting to make a mistake and mentioned that you’ve made that error more than once, I was starting to make the same mistake! Thanks so much for the video.

[@sarahallen7368]

Oh thank you!! Both methods look wonderful to me! The Russian join has always be hard for me to understand, but you explained it perfectly!!😍

[@rosalynjohnson5948]

Thank you for sharing these knots. This will help me to save time on my projects and keep them neat as possible. I like the Russian Knot best😃

[@lissac67]

Interesting way to do the Russian join. I have used the magic knot as my go to because the other Russian join methods looked so difficult and I wasn't confident in it. But this one looks secure. I will now use both depending on the project. I do add a drop of flexible fabric glue to my magic knots. It is a project I can hide the knot in well, I will likely use that. But finer projects the Russian join with your method will be my go to. Thanks!

[@maddbluebird]

Thank you!!!!. I always just tied a knot and prayed it would never come apart...

[@SilverIchimaru]

I tie knots and then I either work over them or weave them in additionally because I'm so paranoid about them coming undone.

[@galeem713]

Try the weaver’s knot. Make a slip knot in your new yarn, then put your working thread into that loop. Tighten the knot until it flips the thread inside it. It’s a tiny knot, one that can be undone, but also one you can cut closely with no chance of it letting go. That’s the knot you see in yarn and threads.

[@sandyduncan3832]

Have you used this a lot, and is it bumpy, and does it hold well? Most of my knitting these days is for machine-washable wool baby clothes, so I really need it to to fail for my family and friends.

[@jackiebrand3352]

I have always used the magic knot, after watching I will give the Russian join a try. I have not have a knot give, but at times I do find the magic knot. It is like the painter always finding their flaws.

[@jeaniebartholomew6979]

The Russian join worked great. For my super bulky yarn, I just used a crochet hook and pulled the yarn through. Slightly bulky but once I did the next row it all blended in! Thanks!

[@mariearsenault197]

I’ve been using the Weaver’s Knot exclusively but really like the look of the Russian Knot. Thank you so much for sharing.

[@happyhippytreehugger1283]

Oh my gosh! Thank you so much for sharing that. I never would have thought of that. I've been trying to hide my magic knots and hoping for the best. I just tried what you showed us and I love it! Yea, I'm a goof and had never heard of the Russian join, so I learned something new!

[@kimg7141]

I just tried the Russian join on Caron Lava Cake yarn. It is a very loose twist, but the join is fabulous !!!! Thank You !!!

[@devonmmi]

I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE RUSSIAN JOIN FOR LIKE FIVE YEARS AND YOU FINALLY MANAGED TO GET ME TO DO IT THANK YOU SO MUCH I KNEW YOU WERE MY FAVORITE FIBER ARTS KZbinR FOR A REASON

[@MzzZoo]

I have been trying to learn the magic knot for years and i finally got it! thanks for your instructions, best description i have seen~!

[@sonopoly]

Thank you so much for this easy to follow tutorial for the Russian Join! I was afraid to try, but your kind and funny way made me brave!

[@susanrichard3879]

Thanks first time I have completed the Russian Join you have made this easy to understand as I always had difficulty inserting needle into the yarn.

[@bethjohnson9256]

Thank you! I am just now learning this method because a pattern suggested it. I couldnt understand the directions, not that the pattern creator wasnt clear, im just slightly dense headed :). Watched one other video and still wasnt getting it. Theres got to be a better way. And what do you know? this is awesome! Much easier for me. Thank you for putting this video together and making the instructions very clear!

[@epjeanne]

I knew about the first one. The second one looks great joined without the knot lump to work around. I need top try this! I hope I can do it!

[@rachelbradbury]

This is exactly what I was looking for! I've just created a seamless join in my project using the Russian Twist. Thank you Fiber Spider! ❤

[@ambertrujillo8103]

Very cool. I have always used the magic knot. But I will try the Russian knot from know in. Thank you very much. 👍

[@TrippNBalz]

I've always used the magic knot but love the way you showed the Russian join. I finally get it! Ty

[@camillefoote5678]

Have you had any problems with the mk coming apart?

[@TrippNBalz]

@@camillefoote5678 no, never had that happen

[@conniestone6251]

YES, I've had that happen! Sometimes when using "slick" or "shiny" type yarns. I never understood how to do the Russian join (until NOW), so I'm hoping that it will hold better with those troublesome yarns? TY, Fiber Spider - once again :)