This Subway got a little out of hand... Cities Skylines 2

[@CharlesSnyder-u9d]

You really should make Times Square and call it dimes square. It would be so cool if you made dimes square Edit: thanks for so many likes guys, and thank you for replying two dollars twenty❤️

[@VloneKid25]

I agree!

[@J-TechOne]

I agree as well!!

[@NJHProductions512]

That’s a million dollar idea there

[@twodollarstwenty]

Ok done!

[@CharlesSnyder-u9d]

Btw guys it wasn’t my original idea

[@sernik1547]

I love the idea of redeveloping Florence around the transit hub.

[@jacktubo]

in my opinion i really like the idea of the highrises next the junkyard and little poor houses for creating a contrast poor and richer developments, maiby we can create a pedestrian bridge from the lightrail to the subway station

[@Kiryawa]

NONONONONO, SINGLE TRACK ON RAPID TRANSIT??!! I absolutely love this series and the idea of reusing an abandoned railway right of way, but having two way single track on a subway-style rapid transit is insanely unrealistic considering frequencies involved. This pains my soul, and i cant think of any city that does that. It also is very much a deal-breaker because metro and trains are very different in their operating patterns. Would be great if this could be addressed in the next episode. Also, train stations usually have multiple entrances, and with lazy pedestrians, it will increase ridership

[@jelmervenema1878]

around the city of rotterdam a lot of metros are old train tracks and some of those are single track

[@twodollarstwenty]

I agree and it’s already changed in the next episode 😊

[@SephStuff]

It’s perfectly fine on a system like this where it’s being made from repurposed historical railways. Sections of the London DLR and overground are like this, sections of Melbourne’s rail network are like this. Imperfections make for interesting cities.

[@likensf7499]

There are a few cities that do that… berlin s bahn, milan s lines, london…

[@caramelldansen2204]

Liverpool, England does that. It sucks, though. I hate it.

[@dezwollenaartjes]

54:46 Yes I’d redevelop the junkyard, cause - even though it’s beautiful - it can’t be there anymore if there’s a subway station next to it. The land value would increase too much to keep it undeveloped.

[@beardy-bandit]

Move it! Select all the elements and move them to another similar shaped plot.

[@dezwollenaartjes]

@@beardy-bandit Yes 👍🏻🔥

[@GojiMet86]

Fun fact, the PATH system technically falls under the jurisdiction of the Federal Rail Administration. The NYC subway is isolated, so it doesn't follow mainline railroad rules. Legally speaking, PATH is actually a railroad, like Amtrak and NJ Transit, with waivers here and there. This is because way back in the day, under the Hudson & Manhattan (H&M), it shared the same tracks with the Pennsylvania Railroad (PRR), with all the same signalling. Some trains were even owned by the PRR itself: the MP38 and MP52. The Staten Island Railway (SIR) is similar, falling under FRA rules but with waivers as well; it used to be part of the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad. It was only takenover by the MTA in 1971. Because of this, the R44 were modified to SIR's signalling system; their replacements, the R211S, also have to use this system, making them different from their R211A counterparts in the subway.

[@ByeByeBayou...]

Great to know! long story short, this is why you have to transfer trains when goin to New Jersey lol

[@phillyzfynest7]

I didn't expect this one. I bet it was a bit difficult deleting just about the whole central station district to re-do the yard.

[@twodollarstwenty]

Yep it hurt but I reckon it’ll be for the better

[@russellparker1250]

Excellent episode! The detailed subway station looks amazing and it's so cool to start seeing the different modes of transport intersect. Also you weren't kidding in the livestream, graphics settings are looking real nice. Can't wait for the central station train yard build.

[@twodollarstwenty]

Thanks dude! I love that we’re finally getting to these places

[@csch1510]

Awesome lighting, agreed

[@panik497]

Where can i see the graphics settings he is using?

[@csch1510]

​@@panik497it's not in the Video description. Maybe on his website? Link to the Website is in the channel description

[@sully_skylines]

Two dollars: I’m definitely not a train guy…. Also Two dollars - 7 episodes of the last 14 have all been train network videos 😂😂😂

[@allanoliveira4139]

Fake Manhattan could be called: - Bankhattan - Coinhattan - Cent-tropolis / Mintropolis - Profithattan Queensborough: - Richborough - Coinsborough - Quoins Staten Island (if you're ever doing it): - Goldhaven Island - Minten Island The Bronx: - The Banx - The Bonds Coney Island = Coiny Island Brooklyn: - Brookcoin (pronounced Brookueen)

[@russellparker1250]

@@allanoliveira4139 lol some great suggestions in here. Coiny Island is too perfect. I also really like Mintropolis, Coinsborough, and Goldhaven Island

[@allanoliveira4139]

@@russellparker1250 Impressed myself I could put up with something like this hahahah Coiny Island...

[@allanoliveira4139]

@@russellparker1250 let's hope 2 Dollars sees this!

[@bailey_theukulele1202]

I just began watching so idk if you have found a name for fakehatten but “Centurion” is a nice fit playing with “cent” as in $ cash money $ and center since manhattan is center to New York. Otherwise if that’s not a good fit Centurion Park has a nice ring to to for central park

[@RicoBanani]

Centurion sounds really good

[@sokkenmakers]

Maybe the central station subway station could be sunken down? Not underground but lower down. That way it would justify the current layout, with a ground level and underground line meeting before going under the water

[@caramelldansen2204]

like a cut and cover without the cover? or partial cover?

[@mdyusufkhan101]

I really love the heritage look combined with a modern terminal in the central station but one tip I would like to give is to use glass roof instead of those grey BORING concrete. That would leave the tracks exposed and you would have to create platforms (you could use the tram ones !!), sooo ... it will take a long time but i would love to see it come to life.

[@PigeonsandCapybaras]

Twodollarstwenty you should read this comment as this is important. Sometimes the road decals won't load, I think you made some extra work for yourself removing them as all you had to do was restart the game and all of the decals would've fixed themselves. I often experience the same thing.

[@rojaq_art]

Redeveloping Florence around the subway would be neat. You could even move the junk yard to the other side of the highway in the planned industrial zone?

[@_netsky]

justification for the ground-level subway station: there's a train that goes to it for people who need to go to the central station, people who need to get to fake manhatten will just pass it underground on the regular train.

[@ihearttjeff]

Exchange Place (which is the Jersey City PATH station near the water that connects to tunnels under the Hudson) has better connections but the Hoboken PATH station is actually a terminal station so trains head towards NJ then loop around to get into the tunnels under the Hudson. A thing to remember about the PATH is that it’s quite old and inefficient, yet serves the most densely populated part of the country and an incredible number of people every day. Sitting in a dark tunnel waiting for trains to pass or at a ghost station that trains still stop at are part of the PATH experience.

[@NithinJune]

47:39 The word you are looking for is “transit oriented development”

[@northbytrain]

I think you should make a park on top of those pillars at the 2nd station if that's possible, not necessarily functional but for decoration would be nice. I dont think it makes sense to have pillars with nothing above them- that will cost a lot of money and has no purpose currently. Apart from that, the network looks fantastic!

[@frontrowviews]

A city with the density of New York could definitely use much more subway lines. The amount of stations in lower manhattan is absolutely crazy. Can’t wait to see this network expand

[@rileyk6256]

You should turn the junkyard in Florence into a construction site. It would keep the same look but also fit in with the rest of the redevelopment

[@SephStuff]

I think having side entrances to the platforms is way more realistic than having just the one at the far end. Think Sydney central - you can get into there from any side

[@leitheoleu5451]

for the train and subway tracks, you can use road builder mod to make some huge segments that contains all the tracks, then use traffic mods lane connector the control how they intersect, so u don't need to meake that subway track elevated

[@NithinJune]

33:25 Whatever the opposite of ADA compliant is, this is it 😭😭

[@lowelont7746]

I love the idea of the subway going up in the new dimesburg central station, and I think you can realise that by making it so that you cant go directly under the water from there, only if you take the subway via Florence, then going underwater and getting into downtown manhattan

[@X-T-A]

If the assets permit you to do this, at some point, I'd love to see a version of the American Dream mall be built. It's a massive shopping center in East Rutherford, NJ. It's surrounded by a big area of suburban sprawl. You know better than I, that suburban sprawl is important to make a city feel planted (see your miami series). Awesome episode here!

[@vmdpt]

51:20 You can paint the building near the station at the same colors as trains. It will look like it belongs to the transport company and was built at the same time as the station, when the railway was converted to a subway. It could be a transit oriented development project or their own office.

[@0926001]

Wow i love it! about the space near the station, you could defnetly make a metro-yard over there, would make sense too given that the place could historically have been a trainyard in the past :)

[@neddo9355]

I've just realized what your cities need, Stairs!

[@doggowhisperer6844]

A mess of rail lines reminiscent of some of Cityrail's finest work, particularly around Redfern and Everleigh rail yards

[@robthomas1993]

A carriageworks arts precinct or gentrified eveleigh rail sheds with food trucks / a beer garden etc would be cool next to the main station here..!

[@doggowhisperer6844]

@@robthomas1993 might be difficult until assets are introduced but definitely a cool idea

[@Freshness2512]

Please Build an Even bisher central Station in „Manhattan“ it Would look so good and be super worth it

[@br3w3rb]

I think it could be realistic to have a subway station on ground level and have tracks going up then directly down. I can imagine that they reused one or two track of the old train station to make it a subway station, instead of building a brand new underground subway station. It is problably cheaper.

[@Sam-cs1kq]

I think calling the metro 'centway' would be a super cool name for it as it sounds like subway and metros are traditionally cheep.

[@StatsMass]

Jersey City has a large central station because, before Penn Station was built in Manhattan, long-distance & commuter trains would terminate there, and passengers would take a ferry to/from Manhattan. Which to that point, I'd highly encourage building MSG / Penn Station and some of Chelsea Piers! But you nailed it. In real life, Exchange Place now a PATH station. Also interesting how tried to reuse the heavier-rail infrastructure, true to PATH. Which is legally a commuter rail system, but functionally is rapid transit.

[@ottooldridge465]

I could hear the cries of terror from transit planners as Two Dollars built a single track metro...! Great episode otherwise

[@timothycampbell5609]

You should make the big wide rail bridge that crosses pinrose Street one big bridge so there's no weird gaps

[@hadardwsenna]

remove those taxi stops and add a dispatch center

[@TheGrumpdog]

Hey 2.20, I lived in JC for 3 years and my daily commute had me transfer from the PATH to the light rail. Right next to the light rail was an old aluminum recycling yard just full of scrap metal! I think you should keep the junkyard not just because its detailed but its also realistic. There was even a bunch of transit oriented development surrounding the scrap yard!

[@TheGrumpdog]

40.73941155005222, -74.04437130999828 if you wanna see it in context

[@cole-j6r]

i miss sunset city man

[@DarthDaiisy]

I've been thoroughly enjoying these episodes while gearing up to finally play CS2 once my PC upgrade is complete.

[@twodollarstwenty]

I’m so glad you’ve been enjoying them!

[@stevenogden6026]

Check out the Green Line at North Station in Boston prior to the 1990’s. It was an elevated light rail system with a through elevated station in front of North Station, one of Boston’s commuter rail terminals. But it also had a stub end surface level station in the street that dropped from the elevated structure to street level just to dead end. With that in mind, I think what you did with the surface level and underground stations at Central Station is just fine, especially considering the terrain you have to work with there. As we model railroaders like to say, there’s a prototype for everything!

[@mitchellschwartz6766]

Love that you put so much of Mozart’s music into the mix- very fitting!

[@NithinJune]

are you aware you can use road builder to make combo metro/rail/subway lines?

[@sully553]

Not sure if I'm imagining things but LUT and graphics settings are making it look very Google Earth-esque. Like at 30:00.

[@qjarrangements4989]

The multilayered central station is pretty awesome development wise. It already looks like it’s been slowly expanded. Who’s to say they didn’t convert the top tracks to subway lines. Plus it runs on older train lines. It kinda works.

[@techie217]

Man, that went off the rails 😁 Great episode

[@nickinick9329]

Heyy! Always wo awesome to see your builds ! Idea for Fake Manhattan : Quarterson City Like Quarter in money, but it also could be some lore : Quarterson was one of the colonials sound by the Queens and Kings and he was the founder of the city. So they named the city after him. (For those that don't understand to whom I'm refering, I'm talking about Jacques Cartier, which is also a play on the work Quarter, because it is so similar to the french word for quarter. Yes I know there is no town named after him, just I think the lore and name fits sooooo well)

[@averagezing]

You can anarchy pedestrian pathways to get multiple entrances to underground subway platforms, FYI. They'll link to the underground platform level as needed

[@jakeemchism7257]

brooklyn should be called broker not only because its who you talk to for money stuff but also because it's a reference to GTA 4

[@alejandrocoto9655]

I absolutely love this series now amd especially with New york city being added it makes it so much more enjoyable. Great job👍

[@Beambubble252]

I really like the junkyard. It makes the area look so realistic. Pls keep it!

[@Nyaxxy]

Really cool episode. Love seeing the difference the mod made and the new transit getting lots of use. Its annoying to put in a lot of public transport infostructure only to see minimal usage. As fo the scrap yard it would 100% be land that would be bought and redeveloped irl, but Its honestly super unique and adds so much flavour to Florence that I'd 100% keep it. As for your comment about the light rail station and subway at Florence being out of the way because it's beside future industry, I could definitely see a Stadium/Arena/Expo center being built somewhere near there on the fringes of the industrial area. Also on a personal level. I'd like to see more car parks. I find making custom carparks in weird spaces super fun

[@ghostangel828]

I think i could be move to the other triangular plot just on the other side of the highway keeping the industrial feel. I agree it does add a lot of realism

[@harrysmith3606]

Another banger of an episode mate!! I love the detail of that junk yard and it actually reminds me of areas in Greenwich, London, where there are dense, new-build, high-rise apartments popping up all over the place right next to these massive mostly-empty industrial lots. Every time I see it I think, surely there's a better use of that land haha. But I guess if those industrial lots are profitable then there's no real incentive to move it to a different site

[@twodollarstwenty]

Thanks man! That’s even more incentive to not redevelop it haha

[@ezekielrego2714]

I highly doubt Seniac created a City Skyline series and based it off in real life. Two dollars twenty has done an outstanding job.

[@jimdotcom1972]

lol, feels like we visited all over the map, but the one thing that actually got built this episode happened off camera. still, the result look amazing.

[@ByeByeBayou...]

So l live in NYC I think I suggested looking in to path on your first train video lol The subway network is looking amazing! hopefully by the time you get to building Brooklyn, we'll have custom assets for the elevated trains. It's really a signature sight in Brooklyn and parts of Queens, feels very New York

[@simonlees2848]

If your up for a challenge i think the subway should somehow extend out the other side of the main station, and bridge across the water because it would look cool, maybe the subway would have to swap to the other side though

[@lesterfrancis8284]

I see you are building your version of the PATH commuter rail system. The Port Authority Trans-Hudson (PATH) is a 13.8-mile (22.2 km) rapid transit system that links the northeastern New Jersey cities of Newark, Harrison, Jersey City and Hoboken with Lower and Midtown Manhattan in New York City. It is operated as a wholly owned subsidiary of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. Nicknamed the "Hudson Tubes" when it originally opened on February 25, 1908 as the Hudson & Manhattan Railroad, it became part of the Port Authority in 1962 as part of a deal that cleared the way for the construction of the original World Trade Center on the site of the Hudson Terminal in Lower Manhattan. At the time of being taken over by the Port Authority, the H&M Railroad was under financial pressure due to change in travel patterns. Today, the PATH commuter rail system has a annual ridership of over 55 million, which is around 185,000 per day. The system operates 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year.

[@flnky4824]

Sometimes I have to really look to figure out if its actually the game or google earth. Love your videos man!

[@gp5313]

Thankfully you know how to build a proper metro! Beautiful

[@rellyrelishes]

33:00 yeah they need to add stations in the game where the tracks are at a lower level than the actual station that connects to the road. Cs1 was missing stations like this as well. Other than underground stations which we aren't talking about here

[@jordancole9374]

It'd be great if there were some big urban murals/commissioned graffitti decals. They're becoming more and more poplar these days. Coming from Melbourne Aus they are everywhere.

[@Phoenix84]

The Subway station at the main station reminds me of Stratford Tube Station in London, where it comes up from underground to the station, then goes back underground. It's a shame you got rid of it. Edit: at the other surface subway station, I don't think people can get to the other platform.

[@drknowsalot_]

15:20 love the editing here with the music, that must've taken a long time =D

[@jevans84]

Literally took a cab from tribeca to Newark on Thursday and was bumper to bumper all the way through the tunnel (tunnel merges from around 5 lanes into 2)

[@JacobLiljenstolpe]

I think fake manhattan should be called "Dime Island" because, um.. It sounds good

[@SagePerkins-e5f]

Why did you capitalize Subway? Now I want a fuckin' footlong buffalo chicken sub on Italian.

[@catsplaysman]

Maybe you could upload your map on paradox mods I love watching you and build like you

[@mausebiker123]

This build is chaos but I can see what it could become

[@RicoBanani]

The usual C:S shenanigans.. start with one thing in mind, end up doing something completely else and getting engulfed in it

[@ander_41]

You could justify all the tunnels to Manhattan by making that section of the river shallower (or shorter)

[@lyght18]

18:31 You can use the road builder to build a massive multiple train line bridge. It'll make more sense to have it on a one solid bridge platform than the separate one.n

[@bogosbinted7681]

Man absolutely love this series! Making me want to buy city skylines 2

[@luca_fiorini]

Just food for thought, but I think you could return the connection between the low level tracks and the top level metro platform and make good use of it with some service pattern changes. For the sake of explaining this properly, the line you are building at 47:37 will be the "Florence Line", the line that stays on the surface and joins the surface level platformsat central station will be called the "Coastal line" while the other line will just be called "Depo line". Finally, I'll just refer to the undergound line between the central station and fake manhattan as the "Manhattan Line" I think a valid service pattern would be [M1]Depo LineManhattan Line [M2]Florence lineCentral station [M3]Manhattan LineFlorence line (termiantes short at Florence) [M4]Depo LineFlorence Line [M5]Coastal lineManhattan Line At night, to justify a surface connection at central you could run [M1]Depo LineManhattan Line. (this should just be able to keep running) [NM2]Coastal lineCentral Station. [NM3]Florence LineCentral Station. If needed/wanted, M3 could also keep running at night as it would connect 2 night life centers, it would just eliminate a transfer between NM3 and M1 so it isn't really required. The only needed infrastructure to make this happen would be a pair of tunnel entrances connecting the surface level platforms to the undergound lines & a connection between the Coastal line & the manhattan line, you could build these nicely besides each other as they would just be short single track tunnel entrances facing away from each other (the ramps would have opposite slopes to each other) Just some ramblings of a guy who likes train services, but I feel like this service pattern would not be too dissimilar from PATH's, where they try to have trains from one tunnel under the hudson to termiante before heading in the other tunnel (orange/green services), to give space to other services so people don't need to transfer.

[@fameonelove9271]

Pillars make sense as reinforcements for office towers

[@theorixlux]

I refuse to believe 2$20 is playing cs2 and instead just trained an AI with satalite data to make a fictional 3D city. Too amazing

[@jus10xd99]

make one of the subways something like one of the promotional trains they do for movies or shows. They had a random hello kitty and MTA collab and something like that could be stupid (in a good way)

[@tactical1981]

Watched the whole episode and had absolutely no idea what was going on, lol.

[@ob3yfam250]

Love the junkyard but i think the time is coming where you replace it.

[@tylerhendrix14]

You can use those pillars to build a bus terminal on top of.

[@tubaboytom]

Please dont get rid of the construction site in Florence. I think it's a cool part of the city that shows it's development over time.

[@tigonologdring9189]

Wow... hard watch! Any particular reason for not just having both overground and underground at the main Central Station? That aside, gotta say I love the Hawthorne Street Station!

[@ConnorEllisMusic]

Common Misconception. There's not a massive overground elevated subway system running through Manhattan.

[@TheSkyGuy77]

That's in the other boroughs, right?

[@Supertobias7]

Hey. Just so you know, your website says it expired.

[@shinkicker404]

Personally, I think you should have stuck with the original idea of the train going underground near that unused line, onto central station and then under the river. Coming up out of the ground feels weird, unless its a terminating station. Either way though, it looks good when finished up (and vastly better than anything I can do, lol.

[@mansourallstar2297]

When you get to do more of manhattan, Brooklyn and queens, you should try to create the LIRR

[@heavyarms55]

Doesn't CS2 have a time of day mechanic that affects traffic? Shouldn't that affect people riding transit too?

[@Radiant-m5m]

What map are you using?

[@adamt195]

FYI, and I havent finished the whole episode yet, but it seems like the Lazy Pedestrians mod can sometimes bug out your demand for residential (even if you have FREE public transit to outside connections)

[@twodollarstwenty]

Thanks for the heads up it actually bugs out next episode I think I’ll remove it

[@BLOODTHIRST0209]

Please get the extended road upgrade mod, it's a must have mod. You could make quays properly and make build clean without glitching the road texture.

[@caramelldansen2204]

Yippie! I mentioned the subway at Central... but then someone else did too and got all the likes :c

[@ribbon8677]

Petition to change the name "Florence" to "Florin" (name of the old coin of Florence + of various European old currencies)

[@snake4546]

Great video! love the frequent uploads, gives me something to put on for the past couple weekends :P

[@skagenrora1236]

I think people are not able to use one of the platforms at the commuter station. Maybe drag some paths/stairs from the two streets on either side of the station down to the platform.

[@mattjones2303]

Lazy pedestrians is a bit agressive and broke my save when remoed, Use Pathfinding customiser instead, it has more granular percentage based controls!

[@NithinJune]

41:39 ooooo love it lol

[@Koka_Kolaa]

It’s kinda frustrating to see the slow progress New Dimesburg is going compared to other CS2 builds here in yt

[@jimmypetrock]

I am so confused, how long has New Dollarton been going on for? 10 years? Or 11 months?

[@csch1510]

Depends on what you talk about, a series on the channel or the channel itself?

[@ZackyVillain]

That lazy pedestrian mod can make your citizens prefer buses than metros, if they can walk fewer blocks. And for same reason, they don't consider in transfers. And overall, it makes monthly public transit usage count smaller in big cities.

[@Gnzxlx]

There will be Savegame on patreon? Amazing work btw

[@stevewhan7308]

What if the suburban train link to the main train station was simply a link to the train station, and the inter-city trains already there? Your suburban train link joined fake-manhattan via a different line.