THE LOW SPIN MONSTER // Titleist TSi4 vs. TSi3 Drivers

[@Tijiel]

Don't understand that this channel "only" has 141K subs, by far the best golf related channel on YT or on any digital platfrom. Maybe to "geeky" for the mainstream idk, but keep going! This is GOLD.

[@num1volfan1]

has 176k now...gaining steam

[@jnzk712]

I love the Ian masterclass he provides at the beginning 😆 thank you for explaining all of that so perfectly for me to understand 🙏. Free knowledge you provide to all of us.

[@MrBBHHBBHH]

Nobody else shares info like this! The CG talk with relation to dynamic loft is so important and I thank you guys for talking about it. This video will help many people understand what it takes to maximize efficiency! Thank you TXG!

[@tsilmanav]

The first 2 mins was the best description of how CG works in clubs is probably the best I've ever herd, and again in less than 2 mins. I feel like I want to get a full bag fit at TXG (I know stating the obvious), but then just pay an extra $100 to just talk about fitting and club theory for another hour or so. Just grab a coffee and talk nerdy golf stuff. This channel is a 100% blast!

[@fredrumann6847]

Best part of these videos is Ian talks to us all in way very simple way, but his knowledge is second to none!! The way he breaks things down is unreal. He is sooo good that I second guess myself about being fitted by anyone but him. Gentlemen thank you for treating high, middle and low handicappers the same!! 🏌️‍♂️🏌️‍♂️

[@DillonBrooksburner24]

Titleist: we need robots to test Txg: We just need Matt

[@johnpalmer5713]

The most consistent guy on YT. ERGO GOAT of YT

[@joebelford4274]

Matty driving the industry when you’re getting Lefty demo’s before Righty’s!

[@taylormilton3]

Fact!

[@ONeillGolf]

Mention of the 976R makes this video even better!! What a blast from the past. Love the depth of knowledge going so far back.

[@spryguy3]

The driver test aside for one moment (another great, informative session BTW) i want to say how impressed i have been with Matt's swing evolution. Having been introduced to @TXG only a year ago and now having watched a large chunk of the back catalogue its been great to see what hard work and determination can do. For this particular session, once again, that TSi3 is performing as well as any club could with any elite golfer and that is a testament to the player. well done.

[@johnmayer4746]

Love that you guys took this one to the "course" - GREAT STUFF!!!!!

[@JacieNicholson]

TSI4 in the thumbnail: “Mr. Matty Boy, I don’t feel so good”

[@95redz]

I’ve built my TS3 driver to be a really well balanced wind machine using many of the principles I’ve learnt from this channel and other sources. I’ve got an 8.5 head paired with a Tensei Pro Orange 70 TX tipped 1.5” and I’ve got 5g of lead tape to bring the CG forward more. I’m very similar SS and ball numbers to Matty Boy (and LH). I’m around in the 175-182 ball speed range and I often see spin in the 1800-2100 range with “high” spin balls being 2300. Amazing build for where I play (35km/hr winds is the normal). I’m going in 3 weeks to get fitted for irons and I’ll be trying some new titliest driver combos to! Great work guys

[@todpharis4996]

This video is a perfect example of why TXG is the best. Not just a normal head to head, but why would you pick one over the other...it matters. Loved this.

[@gunnarjinx]

Gotta say it Ian ... i really LOVED that comment early about HOW the shaft flex manipulates the degree of the head at impact.... how AND in what way the shaft is flexing cause of this and that.... not many show that in extreme slow motion ... would be nice to see that... can u make it happen.... is an eye opener for ANY golfer on the planet ;)))))

[@dylandavies3634]

My TS4 performs just like this, low bullets with low peak height. Love it for that reason

[@chuckthetruck1232]

Just got fit for a TSi4 8° with Tensei White 75g X! Super excited about it!

[@dylandavies3634]

Fire me up boys, need to see TS4 vs TSI4 next!

[@forgedfantasy5934]

just got fitted for the tsi4! LOVE IT!

[@chief1193]

I have learned so much about golf clubs and what I need. You guys have the best channel on KZbin

[@kevinallibone9214]

After playing the last 2 weekend at Machrihanish, in 20-30mph winds straight off the Atlantic, I think I'm sold! Love the addition of the wind in this test. Although a 10mph headwind is considered a flat calm day here ;)

[@IEAirsoft]

I never fail to learn something from Ian's encyclopaedic knowledge of all things related to club fitting technology

[@jaljoe14]

I’ve been patiently waiting for this so exciting

[@ianstyring9602]

You know we all want to see a TSi4/Autoflex combo.

[@BadTomzi]

We have already landed on Mars.

[@robmclain5632]

Ian, have you tried the tsi4? I need less spin and loft, ts2 spun way to much, ts3 is better but wondering if tsi4 would be to hard to control?

[@ianstyring9602]

@@robmclain5632 not I haven't tried it yet. My local club isn't allowing us to use the demo's still.

[@mitchellmorris4785]

Love the videos where on course conditions (wind) are added on top of the original test. As always keep up the great content!

[@stuartmacdonald305]

Really like the fact titleist make a driver for Scotland

[@banditbaker1675]

and everyone sneaking over the border to get a Game during Lockdown😉

[@dominicjones3755]

Love these reviews. They give you the best understanding and info on clubs on KZbin !!! Great explanations, great content 👍

[@jmartella93]

TSi4 with AutoFlex coming soon... Hopefully, love the videos as always boys!

[@Pgdgolfer]

Haven’t heard anyone explain the CG relationship to shaft like Ian did. Great nugget of info. Tsi4 def need a test

[@tylerbone3358]

Best video you’ve ever made. You touch on things no one else does. Well done

[@kylemo938]

It would be interesting if you “virtually” fit someone with a driver and then have them come swing the custom driver in person to see how close you got to a perfect fitting. Essentially a virtual vs in person fitting

[@nickmarr1]

Superb, gents. Tempted to give the TSi4 a chance...👍🏻

[@steelcowboy2751]

Great video as always, you guys definitely know what you’re talking about and it’s very helpful for us watching and trying to make decisions on gear that can be utterly confusing

[@andrewhilger4063]

This is exactly why I got fit into the M5 tour a couple years ago. Where I play a 10 mph wind is a calm day. I can hit it lower if I want but also can hit high launch low spin bombs when I don’t have to fight the wind.

[@GRIFF22]

This video more than any other highlights why it's vital to consider your local course conditions when you get fitted. I play in South Wales which is very windy and play quite a low forward flight. In still perfect conditions my driver wouldn't be optimal, but I very rarely play a day with that scenario. Recently played with an opponent who had a high flight, we were neck and neck when it was still starting out, then the wind picked up. Downwind he had me by 10, but into the wind I had him by up to 25/30 yards. Looking at these two flights, I'd pick the TSi4, absolute no brainer.

[@DanielRodrigues-hn8cx]

That was a very good video! Understanding the differences in heads and who they are for is so important. It has opened my eyes to why i have seen certain results when i have tried different heads given my swing dynamics.

[@jeremynewberry3126]

First, I’m not a Rick Shiels hater, I’m actually a subscriber. But, just came here after watching his review of the same driver and WOW, what a difference! It’s nice to actually see what this driver can do versus watching Rick struggle to square it up!

[@2012RK35]

That was an excellent watch and very educational. Thanks very much.

[@joshhulyer8623]

Cracking video guys! This could be the answer to my spin rate issue 😂, and now that golf courses are now ing in England I can get a fitting for a new driver also. ⛳

[@zefolantar]

As always, the boys at TXG hit it long and straight! What a great informative video. Bravo 👏 👍

[@brycesellsaugusta6889]

This is the best channel for golf nerds by a huge margin. Are we going to see more on course content this summer?

[@chrisbarker671]

Pure class boys! Brilliant content.

[@FF04RDF]

Fascinating 👍🏻👍🏻 Would you see differentials downwind and cross winds? Appreciate it’s a Quad calculation but would be interesting to see..

[@holeinoneman515]

Mid launch shaft with the tsi4 is unbelievable! Csnt wait to grab one when they are officially released!

[@Ecka63]

I have the TSi3 in 10 deg and tested the TSi4 9 deg lofted up to 9.75 on my Tour AD Di 6 s shaft. The result was 1000 rpm less with the TSi4 (2600 average) and a more penetrating ball flight. New driver head on order!

[@johnparker4918]

Time to test Adam Scott’s driver and dial it in? I sure hope so

[@Scatterpattern]

You genuinely think Adam Scott doesn’t have access to the best fitters in the business? That the reason he’s not driving it well is down to a substandard fitting? If so there’s this statue on an island near Manhattan I’d like to sell you, I can get you a great deal...

[@kw12784]

@@Scatterpattern I was under the impression that John meant TXG build the same driver so Matt can hit it...?

[@Justin-uf9lc]

@@Scatterpattern the tone of your response was so godly unnecessary even if John literally meant that TXG should build Adam Scott’s driver lol. The fact that you misinterpreted what he was saying makes it even more embarrassing.

[@brewssssss_]

I think we need to see you hitting it with auto flex matty. See if you’re better then adam

[@mbgolf7197]

Ian and Matt I love the explanation about the dynamic loft, where would the position be ideal for a counter balance shaft? And what loft is best for maximum preformance. Hazardous smoke yellow 6.5 70gram 3.3 low spin?

[@banditbaker1675]

Only TXG could do this vid in such detail! So basically this is a Driver for Golfers living by the coast in the UK & Ireland and everyone in Texas

[@lookkool]

I really enjoyed the simulator testing compared to the real world scenario...it also shows how important it is to get fit for your clubs.

[@JasonSmith-gy2mr]

This is exactly what I wanted to see. Thank You! Keep up the good work.

[@yoder9339]

Love these type of videos. Ian at his best.

[@nv00021]

This is pure genius-level golf nerd speak and I loved every second of it!!

[@jonathanstewart9838]

Love your tests guys, cant wait to try out drivers after this season!

[@hoss_golf1688]

Love my ts4 would be very interested in trying the tsi4!

[@s4ltyd0nut]

Wow that CG breakdown is crazy

[@TheCrannySmith]

Hey Ian (and Matt!), fellow club-builder and fitter here up in Aurora with a question for you! (Although I have many as I'm aspiring to get to Ian's level of club-knowledge) Ian, at 4:02 when you mention that you see an increase in spin rate with TSi3's higher CG, why does this occur? I know it must be relative to the strike location, namely gear effect. Wouldn't a higher CG location warrant a lower spin-rate all else constant? Or is it because of an increase in dynamic loft from the CG being further back in the head (positive relationship between spin rate and horizontal CG?) I will be commenting on most of your videos nowadays as I am yearning to learn this next level club-fitting knowledge so expect to see me again! Thank you for the content guys, you are truly the best golf content out there and one day I'd love to be fit by Ian! -Tom

[@MikeDoba]

Great representation of two drivers with same loft performing much differently dynamically.

[@ahoop24]

Fun stuff here. Probably doesn't apply to this high handicap, but enjoy learning from the boys.

[@fjhH-bi3ob]

TSi4+Autoflex 48"+ Left Dash (-Pro V1X). Now that's a test I'd like to see :D

[@timbuma3693]

Matty’s impact dispersion and consistency with the TSI3 is unbelievable! No need to even do a driver bracket!!

[@RogueSquidward]

Ready for the TSi4 autoflex rockets video.

[@dabaumga]

COG discussion so interesting. Gonna have to revisit that fellas!!

[@LeTran-cc9hw]

Thank you for review. TSI4❤️

[@drewlance5406]

Great Video. Happy to see these numbers. I have been having issues with my driver peak hight of just over 140ft and spinning around 3200. I know I am loosing distance! Can't wait to try this driver out in a fitting to see if I can get those numbers more optimal.

[@drewlance5406]

I ended up ordering this driver this weekend after a fitting with it. My avg height is still high (around 120ft) but my spin got down to about 2350. Looking forward to it arriving so I can hit it more. It was also more forgiving than my current driver. Ended up with 8*, X-Stiff, Tensei AV White 65 Shaft w/ the D-1 Hosel setting.

[@codymagnuson3165]

Just wanted to add another vote to wanting to see the TSi4/Autoflex video in the future!

[@InsuranceSpecialist]

Excited for head 2 head👊🏾

[@davehurley26]

Think this is the club for me launch 15 degs spin 2800 110-115mph head speed 285yds carry and over the top a little 😁👍

[@rpk4632]

We are twins but one try it out lemme know 😄

[@ipotato95]

Speaking of low spin, can you guys do a demonstration for maybe an iron or so of shafts at opposite ends of launch/spin to show how they might affect distance/trajectory?

[@Wesquire]

The gearing effects during impact make a lot more difference than the tiny changes on shaft behavior.

[@golfcart_9797]

I love my TS4. Best driver I have had. Interested to compare it to the TSI4

[@tnathan95]

Hey Ian, can you discuss why efficiency seems to be low? I know there's a discrepancy between Trackman (1.5 optimal) and GC Quad, but I've seen people get high 1.4s with the quad. Contact seems to be square/near center face so I'm surprised 1.44 is the max I've seen on the channel and avg is typically 1.42ish I think.

[@mvansb23]

awesome video. Learning a lot with this one and the anti slice driver video. I have a random question on GC Quads super low spinners. I got fit for a driver at club champion recently. I brought my GC Quad with me and compared output. I know trackman struggles a bit indoors. But on the few ultra low 900 backspin dive bombers that GC Quad simulates - the trackman had significantly higher spin and carry. On average - carry on good strikes was higher on GC quad. Is it possible GC quad’s dive bombers out erroneous? I get them a fair amount - but I never see them on course. I’ve never had the super fast ball speed 900 rpm shot on course that goes 180 yards and falls out of the sky. The trackman plus my on course experience makes me thing GC quad is out to lunch on the dive bombers. If it is - that’s seems like a bit of a fitting problem. If someone steers away from a low spin driver thinking they’ll not be able to keep it in the air.

[@doublea8888]

Always the best guys! Keep em coming.

[@normlang1994]

Guys...love this test. I'm always looking for lower spin from my driver since I'm a little steep on my down swing and too old to change that at this point :-) And despite being a mid/high handicap, I've used a 425cc model before and didn't mind the smaller head. One question I have is, how the TSi4 performs on off-center strikes...typical amateur misses: low in the heel and high in toe? Since Matt's misses are so small, we don't get to see much about that. One last observation...anytime Matt comments that he hit one well, it always seems to have a bit more draw. Obviously the swing he's most comfortable with. :-D

[@corymeeuwsen731]

Have you guys got your hands on any PXG drivers from this year? I’d love to see how the 0211 compares given its low price point!

[@MK355]

Awesome, feel like I learn so much each video.

[@garyverth4887]

I have one and I'm certainly not a consistently great driver of the ball but I find this no harder to hit than many others I've tried and definitely gives you a few extra yards if you make a decent contact.

[@num1volfan1]

simply wonderful...you guys are awesome

[@davidcarnicom5635]

I might need one of these. Went in for my first fitting ever; driver only. I was getting 5500 rpm backspin with a 9° ping G425 lst. (Low heel striker)

[@mmadchef808]

I know your pain. Hit the TS4 and my spin was still at 3500-4000 ugh!

[@andre2you]

I bought the TS4 which brought my ball flight down and much better control, I'll get the TSi4 at the end of the new season....

[@ccnamasake]

@TXG do kindly do a review of the TSi4 with high launch stable shaft like the Diamana TB, Ventus Blue or RDX Blue

[@joeyclark3995]

Awesome. This is the driver for me. Thanks for the vid

[@801J0J0]

Can’t wait for the 2021 longest drive competition.

[@RyanGregnol]

SlDR vs Tsi4 on cg and similar spin? Been waiting for somthing close to come out and replace my SLDR 8*

[@elijahmckinney5609]

hey matt and ian, i have some questions. i’m a college golfer and i have never been “professionally fit” for clubs. the first real set of clubs i got when i was 16 were half an inch longer than standard and i’ve always got that length ever since just because that’s what was recommended to me (i’m about 6’2). however, i have been doing some research and have discovered that according to my wrist to floor measurement relative to my height, i should be using either .25 of an inch shorter than standard, or standard. that means that my clubs are 3/4 of an inch too long for me. how much might it help my game and posture if i get clubs that are the right length for my arms?

[@jackvliet]

Would love for you to get fitted.

[@purrly8578]

Following up on the idea from this weeks live..maybe a fun test idea- Matty’s gamer, so 45 inch at about D3-4 SwingWeight with 196-197 head weight (all assumptions) vs the same exact head but remove the back weight and add an inch. So then it’s 46 inch at about D5-D6 with a 188 gram head weight. What will yield better results? The more moi head? Or the speed from the lighter head???

[@gultekinakyurek5361]

Great video as usual guys 👍🏻 What’s the head weight for the TSI4 ? Couldn’t find it on Titleist’s website 🤔 Keep up the good work guys 🙏🏻

[@clubchampionmedia]

The head we tested was 198g without the sleeve

[@gultekinakyurek5361]

@@clubchampionmedia You guys rock !Thanks very much 👍🏻

[@MrEasyaloha]

Can i test it light ;-) What does Titleist bring to the table in shaft choice? Can they offer something of a range like Mizuno?

[@ethansantucci8701]

Can y’all go play Rick shiels and Peter finch when COVID is done? I think that match would be awesome content

[@benjaminpham6015]

I don't know if it would be. I think trying to fit Rick in a Live session would be much..more ...interesting 😆. As they live on different poles of golf YT. It'd be a great way to connect the masses to TXGs niche. Perhaps a virtual collaboration with TourX facility.

[@boydgrandy5769]

The TSi4 needs a high swing speed to do what you demonstrated that it does. My driver swing speed is more like 90mph. Maybe the TSi1 would be a better fit for me; light and maybe a bit faster.

[@jacobmccain8082]

You guys ever gonna review the SIM2 fairway? They're not around locally and really want to see if they sit more square than SIM TI did.

[@ianfrasergolf]

We will...... not sure when.

[@jacobmccain8082]

@@ianfrasergolf Cool thanks. No rush I know how it is in these times! Thanks for all you guys do!

[@kyungkim5764]

Is the CG in the TSR3 more forward than the TSR2?

[@christopherfarrell3333]

I have all those characteristics: high spin, steep with speed, slightly out to in, ballooning ball flight ect... sounds like I need to try this head out....don't think I hit it consistently out of the middle enough. Any other similar heads with more forgiveness?

[@jakegittes7035]

It would be interesting to see a fitted TSI3 vs a fitted TSI4 for Matt and how the shaft/loft differ.

[@jimsilverdale205]

Really like your video;s, wish you would show someone that is a slow speed 77-80 that has high spin numbers 5000-6000. Someone that needs lower loft and lower spin

[@p1miguel999]

would the M5 Taylormade with the weights forward be the same as this TSI4? i favor Titleist and have TS3 but as you said, a nightmare in the wind. i spin way too much and yes i tried lessons. i now hit the ball everywhere. before i would only miss right.

[@jumbotron3492]

Now you can do a “Head to Head”(Scottish accent) with the Ping LST and Titleist TSi4🤯

[@patrickmontgomery6454]

Awesome stuff as always boys.

[@pkman9377]

Would The drop off in distance be equally big, but switched, if The wind was 10 mph downwind? Or would The tsi4 still come close to/beat tsi3?

[@krawczak9182]

My old driver my peak height was around 145ft and was hitting my best drives at 270 lowered my spin and peak height to 120ft and now hit 290 consistently