IAN's 2024 DRIVER FITTING // Will The TSR3 Be Usurped?

[@mpkelley20]

Maybe its just me but none of these numbers justify dumping $600 plus on a new driver. It is almost comical how close everything is.......Save $$$$$ and wait like 5 years minimum.

[@jkim8282]

To us we are saving money. To Ian, this is just fun.

[@taradon455]

$600?? Get fit for a driver with a custom shaft and it’s more like $1300

[@MrCYChung]

If you haven’t bought new equipment in last 5 years…. You’re not the target market. 🤣

[@vicgeier3482]

I bought a new TSr2 head for 250 and registered it with Titleist, also a Fuji Blue TR for 275, saved a bit being patient 😊

[@BigDawgCAM]

I’m doing research for a used driver in 2-3 years ! I’ll pay $300 for a quality used driver

[@KevenSandoval]

Ian wakes up with a new swing thought and immediately fits the thought to a new driver until the next thought comes.

[@PawleyWalnuts]

100000% and so does 99% of golf addicts who think the driver tech matters anymore. It's marginal at best. But it's the business they are in.

[@DizzyGoat44]

“The dreaded straight ball.” I’ve never heard that before 😂😂

[@cdawggio]

Hi Club Champion guys, quick question. First shot of the video, 13.4 Launch, 162.8 Ball Speed, 2186 Spin, carry is 291, total 313.. FlightScope Trajectory Opitmizer has that coming out as 269 Carry, 278 Total at Standard Sea Level, do you mind advising what weather settings you have set on GCQuad?

[@sheevakai]

Ian wants that TaylorMade in the bag so bad. Johnny must be furious 😂

[@kensb2]

How has Ian been married so long with all these commitment issues? 😂😂😂

[@oldgold5848]

He always uses the same shaft........

[@CarlosSaintPatrick]

😂😂😂

[@seanconnors7639]

A new spouse costs way more than $600

[@firstname2072]

Seperate bank account so mrs can’t tell he spends 10k a month on new equipment 🤣

[@josephinecampbell3196]

Nothing will ever be perfect.

[@Slicktycoon]

Ian getting a lot of stick on the frequency of changes in his bag. I don't mind, I actually love it. If I could tinker with different clubs, shafts, weight adjustments, lofts... I'd change my clubs every week 😂😂

[@AllOutOfEnemies1]

Ditto

[@hoganfan924]

It will last until the new Titleist releases this fall. 😂

[@uwrossl]

That's what I'm waiting for. I've liked both of these other drivers and they perform better than my old TS3 but can't pull the trigger knowing it's a release year for Titleist. Want to see what they have to offer before deciding.

[@nzigg8161]

This summer you mean

[@uwrossl]

@@nzigg8161 Titleist releases in the fall. They let the cat out of the bag in September and then are available in October to the public typically.

[@mariofonseca9267]

@@nzigg8161I think fall to the consumers. Summer to tour release

[@metalgearfan9802]

True, only downside imo is that it's like a MASSIVE downgrade in the looks department imo. The TSR3 is possibly the prettiest driver ever released lol. Adding the branding on the top kinda takes away from it imo.

[@Citizensofthecountry]

TD! Wowee that driver is just so good for you. Great showing from all the big hitters this year. I thought I'd never see you in a Callaway head, but you can't argue with the numbers. Thanks for another great video boys.

[@BrendanDavis-f7j]

Just put that TD in the bag. Performance is so good!!

[@joelsmith7868]

Ian changes swing just so he doesn't have to game a Cobra 😂

[@nickrichardson8634]

That’s what I was thinking also

[@jon4715]

Right? This is cheesy, really disappointing to see.

[@bradyrowley9389]

He consistently hits the cobra drivers the best. But then he never actually uses a cobra. Make it make sense.

[@underthetrees4780]

​@bradyrowley9389 seriously, that Darkspeed was straight and 10 yards further, I'd be sold if it did that for me

[@philhazel4810]

I love when Mikey asked how long it will last. The shaft, for now, is staying. Fittings are great but only a snapshot of what a player bring on that day. All of them are great clubs and it was close, during the Bracket, we've seen them all and every time there's slight difference in performance. That's, mostly, Ian. We're human and have frequent changes in our swing, what's important is he is confident in "THAT CLUB" on the next shot.

[@scotpage5526]

Fun to watch. It would be fun for myself as an average golfer to have access to such testing. Ian has such knowledge and access and then the ability to actually use what he picks. As average golfers, we don't have the finances to get exactly what we need. Enjoyable to watch true professionals test so thoroughly. I've been to club champion. The fitting I experienced is nothing like this. Fun to watch

[@bobb3rdown676]

Need to put the new driver up against the og sim. He hit that driver so well.

[@wooltron1]

I'm putting that driver back in the bag this weekend. Not sure why I took it out to begin with.

[@bobb3rdown676]

@wooltron1 got mine last year. That with a diamana zf has been a killer combo. Won't be leaving until it breaks. Even then, I might source another head.

[@tarr0017]

Still rocking og sim with zf. Cracked one and had to go find another. A few newer models have matched it but nothing has beat it

[@panthersgolfsociety841]

Just popped the crown off my Stealth, so I've gone back to the og Sim with a Kaili X stiif. Same here, I dont know why I took it out the bag.

[@brentonday7438]

As someone who has owned the Ai Smoke TD for 3 weeks now, I can confidently say it's the best driver I've ever hit. Callaway took everything good about last year's Paradym TD and actually improved upon it. Toe strikes now perform like center strikes. I get high launch and low spin on course and the ease of use is off the charts. Never thought I'd be a TD user, since I'm a low launch and low spin player, but this driver is busting the myths.

[@stepyourgameupplaya9360]

Did you test the Ping 10k?

[@danrichter9864]

Same for me. Unbelievable driver that has given me confidence off the tee I haven’t had in years.

[@brentonday7438]

@@stepyourgameupplaya9360 I did and I just did not get along with it. I am far more confident with deeper face drivers that maybe aren't as wide than I am with shallow faced drivers that are wider. I just couldn't seem to square the Ping 10K up consistently.

[@3318kk]

I just got the AI Smoke Max and 100% agree, my toe hit misses go just as far. More consistent ball speeds and better sounds than the TSR2 it replaced.

[@theeyesurgeon1]

I agree. I also have the QI-10 and I think the QI-10 is more inconsistent than the stealth and stealth 2 combined

[@viewthroughcass]

Ian’s fighting that Callaway lol

[@jon4715]

He was fighting the Cobra

[@baumiller]

Thanks for the video, guys. Its close enough between the 2 that it boils down to feel, and looks. I just got fitted for a new driver and ended up with the Ping max. Replacing my TSR3. Lost consistency. Ping gave me the tightest dispersion by a wide margin, and increased my distance as well.

[@AFGOLFSTORE]

Seriously good numbers Ian. We saw the similar in triple diamond, Callaway have done well this year

[@jamielahugh8316]

He’s gonna play that triple diamond until the new titleist drops this fall. Lol

[@MM-zb9kc]

I’ve got the PXG 9* Tour -1 with the Ventus Blue + 6X and that combo is a monster. However my Callaway Triple Diamond with Proxima 6X is a unicorn. That shaft lowers spin but doesn’t lower launch that much. Fly’s forever and still rolls out. Best shaft I’ve ever hit into the wind. Ian- would love to see you test the Proxima out.

[@phuchakrpringpuangkeo2342]

Love these videos. Thank you for doing them. I'm a bit like Ian in that I am changing drivers in and out of the bag quite often. At the moment, the Mavrik Subzero is back and doing very well.

[@suprand]

When the taylormade first came out you guys thought the LS was too low spin and negative about it. But now it’s in the running to go in the bag 😂

[@mikehill06]

the TD Ai Smoke will last until the new Titleist range of Metal woods are released in July/August.

[@seancook2264]

The last time I did a multi brand driver fitting it landed between Callaway Epic and G410. Epic was longer but went with the G410 for its usability.

[@dabdias]

Ian doesn’t like hooks and doesn’t like floaty fades, I guess he only likes good shots!! 😂😂😂

[@miked.7722]

Me neither, I don't like hooks, especially pull hooks or floaty fades, I like baby draws and power fades. Seems like Ian only likes it when he hits it well, ME TOO!😂

[@chachifeere]

Every week he’s doing a driver fitting , it’s time for some new material boys

[@SMitchell91090]

It’s a fitting channel. You expecting an episode of Bob Vila’s This Old House?

[@gerrycameron3685]

Start your own channel?

[@mvansb23]

We want more driver fittings.

[@PaulOrong]

I finally bought a new driver after nearly 10 years. I played a Taylormade R7 for a LONG time. I tried over the years but nothing really was significantly better. (plus I like the smaller 430 head). But about a month ago I went and tested several drivers at different club fitters in this area. (Titleist, Ping, Srixon, Calloway, TaylorMade) In the end I ended up selecting the PXG Black Ops driver. I am a 10 handicap (use to be a 6) but stopped playing for 8 years (kids, travel work & health issues) but started again about 10 months ago. I am 62 now. With my old R7 I was carrying it 250yds (260 total) when I centered it up. It would drop to about 240 on all other hits on the face. with a pretty wide (left to right) dispersion of about 32 yds. With the PXG driver it was significantly longer on centered strikes 270yd carry (total 280-285yds) - but on my mishits it would still carry 255yd-260yds (270yd total). My dispersion also went down from 32 yds (left - right) to 25 yds left to right. Now I think it's time to get the rest of my bag fitted. I have some large gaps to fill on both ends of my current bag. This driver is incredible.

[@jonpruse4692]

Still have my TSI3 with a AD XC shaft. Excited for the new release in August.

[@AttackAngl3]

Can wait till next week's fitting :)

[@stickuation]

Was splitting hairs as I tested these two- TD w/ fuji red 6s. Qi 10 w/ AD IZ 6x. I preferred the Callaway because the spin stayed lower on my low mishits. The Callaway also reminded me of the Taylor made r 11 S with a face longer north to south. Was striking it more in the middle. However, swing speeds were the same around 108 and carry distance was around 275 yards.

[@suprand]

When I watched the pxg in the bracket. Especially first round. It performed unbelievable but now not so much ? Swing change ?

[@keithkatz1350]

4 line balls to start with gamer I don’t care how tight the fairway is video could have ended right there😂 Cheers from Norcal

[@gregwilliams2066]

Has cc ever tested the mizuno st max? Seems they would given relationship with voshi

[@haxhiabedin9536]

The Callaway numbers may be better, but the Qi10 seems to put a smile on your face mate. I think you know which one to choose.

[@MrShoughland]

Don’t worry Ian, a new Titleist driver is around the corner. 💪⛳️

[@ballzmckracken7919]

Did I miss the loft set up of the Qi 10ls. Did he try the 10.5 turned down or 9*?

[@xBlade173]

I'd be sticking with the TsR as a normal consumer. I'm sure he's getting to switch for free/low cost, so go ahead and do it.

[@cogden17]

Is there a ventus shaft that is similar to the VF? Blue tr?

[@brianlewis5970]

I agree if I had the access that the he has to golf clubs my golf game would probably suffer tremendously because I would want to try a different set every round or two

[@badbilly429]

I’m gonna go 3 months we need a Johnny Wunder reaction video!

[@tigertim9232]

I feel you have to take everything you see on a launch monitor with a pince of salt. Everything is based on one flight algorithm based on launch and spin at impact. Whereas we know every ball has a different lift and drag profile. So may not fly like flight algo predicts. Good for a baseline and obviously good if your driver is way off.

[@fredster1449]

Totally agree I think launch monitors can easily both over and underestimate driver performance .... would never purchase without seeing the flight outdoors

[@bluetoughguy]

This is the driver I think would be best for me as well. I hate to see that hook come into play and would much rather have a little high cut. Definitely going to give it a try!

[@maxcaysey2844]

How often do you change drivers and why? I've had mine since 2010 and I'm only now seriously thinking of changing...

[@whiskerrub]

Two fitters that know each others tendencies so well. How do you guys see or what’s a maintenance program post fit and or build? Is this in the offerings and how do manage it affordability? 👍

[@johnbrodnik839]

Great review! If it were me, I would have both of these drivers in the bag!! Triple Diamond on the front 9. LS on the back. And keep doing it until you just reach for The One. That’s what I do when I test irons and drivers. The best one always wins.

[@aemk6129]

Must have a big bag… 28 irons and multiple drivers… wow!!

[@Murf1802]

I loved to see you hit differnt shots shapes for a particular situation ,that you might come across out on the courses, every driver would have 3 or 4 criterias, were you'd be hitting shots on 3 or 4 differnt holes during the fitting,don't get me wrong ill take your game, your swing over mine anyday of the year, but I spoke to a golfer who was at a skill level where movement on the ball was the next step in his golf game, your game is definitely scrach or better, no doubt, your definitely an athlete, I'd love to see a few cuts on a dog leg or high draw over some big trees, I actually love the fade ,cut shot, the draw filght just doesn't fit my eye, when I hit a high cut its a beautiful picture to watch for my eye, but I get it your looking for spin, distance, dispersion, at my level I'm all about looks and feel first and foremost , because I'm not good enough to get out of what these new driver offer, 160 to 180 speed, hahaha in my dreams, carry 230 run out to 250 , I leave an enormous amount of technology on the table using these fine tuned driver heads nowadays.That said I believe in the best product with whatever sporting equipment your buying, because when I'm playing at my highest level I know the equipment is letting me produce high level performance, i hope that rant makes sense to anyone as crazy as I am, hahaha. Thanks guys, always put out content I can process and understand.

[@muzzleblast88]

Ian the day after this video looking up leaks for next year's drivers to replace this one

[@roidAholic]

what length?

[@todddevine8818]

No Ping?

[@woodygamer6171]

Just got fitted into the QI10 ls at Scottsdale golf 👌 absolutely love it

[@vidurrenjen3556]

I got fitted for a Pxg Black Ops driver with a MCA Diamana 50-r shaft length at 45.25 inches . Is there another shaft with a similar profile in the PXG range?

[@hugonlazarde]

You can go with a Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 50R1... You will not regret!

[@jimhowell4282]

would have loved to see a 2nd round with the cobra at 9 degrees. the ball speed and what looked an ease of use.

[@robh316]

Ian in the bracket you smoked that pxg driver was so straight have you changed the set up of something?

[@ryanheisler7139]

Vegas has placed the over/under at 2.5 months on the TD staying in the bag. I'm taking the under.

[@yourbestgolf365]

Put me down for under 🤣

[@williag1970]

Had a fitting at Club Champion UK with Jason today. I’m now playing the Fraser shaft rather than the tiger shaft 😂 all be it in the 5S

[@johnkissane1522]

Ian you should try the TSR2 in setting B1. As a Club Champion fitter I know it will work

[@simmi352]

Are the Sim2 ti FWs back in the bag? Think it was AI smoke that replaced it, but I didn't believe it for a second 😂

[@mvansb23]

I think if you did a custom fit with tour heads and hot melt and heads selected with measured loft for you - any brand could do well here. Callaway had the big advantage. No surprise here

[@kw12784]

Mikey saying the dispersion is wild...with another group of shots, on a different day, that dispersion is going to be exactly the same as the other clubs. It's a small sample size...hit it often enough, and you'll be just as much offline with a club that is "perfect" for you as any of the clubs you've hit in this video

[@FF04RDF]

Do different driver heads react differently to different shafts? If you find the shaft you like is it best / safe to stick with it regardless of the head you stick onto the end of it?

[@MiloMalt_]

They will react differently due to different headweights mainly.

[@JT-xs4br]

Hey Mickie, why didn’t we see impact for the Smoke? Just curious to see where Ian was hitting it on the face.

[@Grantski2007]

Wundeful choice hope it gives you the confidence you’re after from the tee box

[@Grantski2007]

Although Trottie might have some tricks up his sleeve for ya Ian 😂😂

[@superfly1187]

Have you noticed the results in the bay different than IRL on the course? I see more draw (my miss) than I do in the bay and need to factor that in. Thoughts?

[@nicholassabol7686]

Want to be fitted by you guys so badly. Love this channel!

[@julian-bc3ke]

Usurped is a $10 word. Great video!

[@robcouch81]

How’s the Ad VF compare to Ventus black???? Anyone??

[@pluc1981]

My biggest takeway here is if the money isnt an issue, then sure go ahead switch out of the TSR3 for Qi or TD but im not sure either would be worth to upgrade over the TSR3. You would be better to wait til the new Titleist metalwoods are released this summer then decide. Although at that point you will only be 6 months way from the next product cycle from Callaway and TM... Vicious circle. See you in 2025 lads!

[@Omnis2]

Come in and swing the TD cold. It's the same as the TSR3. There's not a $600 difference between all 3.

[@mvansb23]

Should come back tomorrow and hit the qi10 again against the Callaway. Numbers close enough that going with feel and confidence make sense.

[@muntjunk-plk3171]

How he wasn’t gaming that Cobra after the brackets is beyond me. Consistently around 317-321yrds with great dispersion. Talk about brand bias!

[@333jfish]

What shaft is Ian using? I thought they were going tell us, but slide right by it. I know it's been mentioned in a few of the vids.

[@spencersecord3073]

Graphite designs AD VF 5x.

[@randymahony8157]

Do you have to have a fast swing speed to hit the ◇◇◇

[@ItsMe-xg5ym]

Ian- wondering why there wasn't a Ping driver in the mix?

[@CoryLancasterYT]

HILARIOUS! 🤣 😂 😆 Still trying to slide back to TMAG even when it's clear! Mikey trying so hard to open eyes!

[@Bech285]

Tasmanian Museum and Art Gallery?

[@CoryLancasterYT]

@@Bech285 TaylorMade's old acronym.

[@eamonmurphy5168]

He hit the Qi10 LS objectively better. They erased his first drive with the Ai Smoke. His dispersion wasn't as tight as they're claiming.

[@russm8770]

Why did the shaft go from 5x to 6x when you went to the Cobra?? All other heads had 5x in them.

[@stephan5278]

where in FL? I would love to play a round with you guys.

[@chachifeere]

I feel the the cobras , callaway and TM have caught up to and past the tsr line.

[@kwalter2323]

How is the speed training going ?

[@patrickbeach3070]

J Dub is gonna have a field day!!!!

[@matthewkodamaADG]

I think the Callaway TD should be built to 45” instead of 45.5” that right start line should get more neutral. As the boys have noted many times over the years, longer shaft will promote more in-to-out path, which brings in the right start line more into play. Maybe switch shaft to 6X to get the right balance.

[@stephenlang8947]

Ian seemed so apprehensive to go with the triple diamond

[@ianfrasergolf]

I’ve played the 💎💎💎 two rounds already this year and i didn’t drive it well at all. Albeit I was using a completely different shaft.

[@bd500]

Dark speed ls @9 with Ventus Red TR 6x… give it a try.

[@PaulOrong]

Question: If you were to take off each of the drivers head and weigh them what would the head weight be? I think not only the with locations available on each of the head varies the performance - but total head weight would also change swing speed, ball speed, launch, spin, swing comfort level.

[@randomzero3]

Ian is never going to end up with the Smoke. It did everything he wanted with the tightest dispersion and he was trying to justify using the Qi10 instead. Personal preference is the most important variable.

[@boxa87]

Do you have a video that shows the average stats of your driver picks over the course of the last several years? I’m curious how much distance was gained and or how dispersion was tightened up. Is it worth the actual cost of an entire build each year?

[@No_Fear_33]

No Ping G430 LST?

[@stepyourgameupplaya9360]

The MAX 10k runs circles around the LST for dispersion and forgiveness

[@MiloMalt_]

@@stepyourgameupplaya9360 As it should since it is made to be more forgiving but it should also be higher spinning and very slightly slower ball speed comparatively to the LST. Kind of like the two PXG heads they tried in the vid.

[@rdbrook100]

Only 20 minutes long.... Is the video on a time lapse from the last 6 months 😂

[@dominickdelfino7552]

you will make Johnny Wunder a happy man :)

[@billsinclair313]

Still playing a Taylor Made Sim 2 Max. It’s a fairway finding machine and distance is as good as I can get. Cannot imagine anything being or feeling any better. Not even hitting any of the new stuff. I’m happy and will stay happy.

[@WilliamWright-hf8ob]

Just wondering why the Cobra was a 6x and the rest were a 5x ??Cobras spin was a little low, could the 5x bring the spin into that more desired window ??

[@MiloMalt_]

They could have also put the heavier weight back to bring the spin up while maintaining the speed. It kinda feels like they are set on 2-3 drivers maybe looks wise or brand wise and stick with those. They also could have tried other setups with weights that they just didn't include in the video.

[@miklevey3429]

I wonder what swing weight Ian plays in the driver.

[@_bstr_ct1832]

How do you fit people out of a miss when they don’t produce it during the fit? Last time I had a lesson I was hitting the ball better than ever so it was difficult to show what my problems are on the course!

[@keithkatz1350]

Definitely therapy is needed here he has this fascination with TM and resistance to Callaway historically I suggest hypnosis😂 Cheers from NorCal

[@mikeb3835]

I think you should have tried the DarkSpeed with the heavy weight in the back to get the spin and launch up a little bit.

[@Tywithay]

I'd be curious to see Darkspeed X with the weight forward.

[@stepyourgameupplaya9360]

My clients have found that to be unforgiving on mishits

[@MiloMalt_]

or the DS LS with the heavy weight back

[@cameronmatthews5631]

Worried about right miss but has weight all the way in the toe - this test showed tsr3 was the best and was actually no need to change man.

[@bendavies9140]

Ping?

[@mikewilliams1479]

Godd video. Let's see if it makes it to August.

[@EricTheGolfFiend]

It's easy to fit Ian because it doesn't matter and a new club will be in the bag the following week

[@ryanrichardson9915]

I would like to see the TSR3 vs the 2016 M2!