Tycoon Backing or League 1 Challenge? The Biggest Decision Yet!

[@bastianschrderlarsen6059]

Lincoln is such a big step up. Hard to turn that down.

[@gsutters4121]

Not taking the Lincoln job means you miss out on the chance of a crossover episode with TomFM.

[@byronkerr6]

Or, being Kevin, he could have sank Lincoln down to non-league just to wind up TomFM.

[@lollujo]

That was my main reason to not take it.

[@honestjohn7513]

It all makes sense now

[@alastairwood1745]

A problem Kev could have now is if the Tycoon chairman decides to sell to a non tycoon or in fact just scale back his support. Obviously it might be fine but turning down Lincoln is a big risk, I lost a tycoon chairman on a save a while back

[@williamcross210]

and better offers will likely be in the offing by the time that occurs

[@andrewwood7580]

You should have gone to Lincoln. The tycoon hasn't really delivered and a supporter base of 800 or so is never going to get you far. You're supposed to be making real world decisions. Personal greed might say stay at Brackley. But you get the same money or more at Lincoln, in a much bigger club, two leagues up. Dumb.

[@josephbanks2128]

What move house and area for job that will pay the same to work with people you don’t know! No chance anyone takes that chance

[@benonwheels]

It's not the owner's fault that Kev is massively overspending. Can't say the owner hasn't delivered when he was immediately given the highest wage budget in the league as a newly promoted side and immediately granted professional status. Joining Lincoln makes it just another run-of-the-mill NLTL save we've all seen time and time again and he'll get bigger clubs headhunting him in a season or two anyway.

[@robinpolk5040]

He's nr.1 on spending as newly promoted team, turned fully pro in national league north and spent 1M+ on facilities. He does deliver.

[@andrewgratton4750]

In all my years of watching I've never disagreed as strongly as I do that in reality no-one turns down the Lincoln job for a tycoon who's not given transfer funds nor a completely dominate wage structure.

[@ConstantinoHaza]

Nah. Staying is the wise choice. There are different types of tycoons. Besides that tycoon is providing just what is needed to succeed in that level

[@danhall76]

Same money for more secure job seems realistic to me. Why would I take same money to go to a team that will likely sack me in 6 months if they don’t see immediate results?

[@williamcross210]

Also, the tycoon gave transfer funds that Kev moved into wage budget then forgot about doing that

[@andrewgratton4750]

New contract...small wage rise no transfer funds no additional wage budget and kev is running above budget! NL to L1 no trainer if not now when?

[@tylerwinsor4508]

If I remember correctly from a previous episode isn't the wage spend the highest in the league? That's unheard of at that level for a promoted team, a tycoon isn't going to give a NL team Prem money

[@edwardbuchan9607]

Realistic to stay. Brackley offered the same wage as Lincoln, you’re happy, comfortable and secure in your role. Why would anyone move their family on in those circumstances for no financial benefit. It might be different if it were a club in the same locality

[@Jon_FM]

If you get promoted this year I think the Lincoln decision makes sense. If you end up in the playoffs it will be dubious. So hopefully you will get to league 2 at the end of the season.

[@marcwaller6708]

Think you were sold a dream by the Brackley chairman! Fingers crossed it works out🤞

[@jacobweeks6526]

Should have taken the Lincoln job, don't care about "supposed money" coming into the club. NL --> L1 is a great step up

[@tombardsley3081]

Step up but he’s more secure at Brackley with a longer contract as well as potential for being competitive next season if he gets to league 2. Think that’s what he’s based his decision on

[@Upthereds777]

@@tombardsley3081no one has ever been sacked on footy manager. Security isn’t a thing.

[@g4ddos]

​@Upthereds777 untrue, I once saved Leeds United from relegation when they had their point deduction in League 1 and got replaced by Steve McClaren. It still haunts me to this day.

[@tombardsley3081]

@@Upthereds777 except Kev has been sacked on football manager. Several times.

[@Upthereds777]

@ I’d never play the game again 😂😂

[@richf5]

I think that's logical in that a Lincoln-type job would likely come up again for this manager, a tycoon wouldnt necessarily so staying to see what happens doesnt necessarily harm the manager in the long term career

[@anthonybroom234]

what are you doing kev your tycoon so far has not keep his promise of the £22 million. i would have left

[@marshfellowman]

that isn't how tycoons work, they don't just give you a giant lump sum of cash, they spread it out over a period of time

[@rexmas1.]

Great decision as long as you get promoted this season. If not, it'd be urgent to jump ships

[@tomhinds4380]

******SPOILER ALERT******* I think not joining Lincoln was the right call. You’re comfortable at Brackley, with wealthy owners. Lincoln might be higher in the footballing ladder however they’re not paying you for the extra stress and responsibility you’ll have as Lincoln manager So being paid the same to stay at a job you’re happy and comfortable at makes sense!

[@therifty1301]

Not taking the lincoln job has made me finally forgive the decision to move to Tottenham in a previous NLTL when things were going so well in the prem with Preston

[@tombardsley3081]

Spoilers The decision taken is all dependent on whether you get promoted. If you do go up, fine you’re in the football league with a promotion wage rise and probably competing for promotion to league one next season. If you don’t go up, then it’s a mistake especially if mr tycoon doesn’t give you more money. Also given the choice, there’s a chance that you’ll break your record of longest time at the first club which is currently held by leamington at just over 5 seasons. This is the 4th season with Brackley

[@Pikachu0071000CS]

I think stability is worth it. It's not a bad choice.

[@SithLordLerg]

I think if we go up this season staying makes sense. If we struggle though then that's disastrous because L1 with a good sized club is a huge step up from a career perspective. Fully understand staying with stability and money though. Just takes longer to improve yourself

[@amirilan4435]

I feel that a more real thing to do was to negotiate with the club that spends tons on wages first, and only then ask yours to match. For them paying 2k more might be possible. I fond it weird that you would resign for 300 pounds. Plus, why couldent you ask both wage and budget? FM shananigans

[@PirateDrive]

I like how every other year people imdiately complain that Kev leaves the starter team, this year he stays and people complain even more.

[@stevenalper3890]

i have a feeling your assistant praised the team against fleetwood (i didn't pause it) the boys really didn't like that which is a good sign. you might want a new assistant though.

[@maxthornton9500]

Shades of deeney in the playoff semi-final with that rochdale equaliser

[@nsegura3]

I would have done the same. You are still 2-3 years from L1, by then you will earning lots more money with bigger budgets.

[@dombillington2277]

Surely FFP will limit that?

[@wgwYT]

I would have stayed. The same wage with the potential upside of a tycoon. Especially having seen you say you've never had one in a youtube save. could make for more interesting content.

[@tchambers1144]

I think right now moving to Lincoln would have been the most realistic step, but only because you don't actually know what the tycoon owner will do. In "real life", where you can actually discuss future plans, staying might be the right choice but given that doesn't really exist in FM, I think you'll be annoyed in the future when the wage/transfer budget is never as much as you want it to be

[@danmccarthy2958]

I love Brackley - think you made the right decision, why sacrifice being considered a god for a risky team who sacked their last manager after less than 2 years?

[@JMThought]

This is a real challenging decision. I think you should house hunt again in Brackley to reflect your new salary. But I do think in terms of realism would you move your family for a job that’s only a bit better? You have job security here… it is a big step but bottom of league 1 to top of national league isn’t huge. So it’s a tough call but I think you can justify it.

[@brookes5484]

I've never seen someone so relieved that they DIDN'T get a big contract offer than when Kev saw the proposal from Lincoln! 😅

[@alarotafalcon]

They are not going to give you all the money to spend while in the National League, the money will get better as you go up the leagues and will be better than Lincoln when you get to League One (probably). Right choice.

[@YoshiJoshi_]

The Lincoln job was probably the logical move, on at least as good a money. But its your game and you should play it the way that is most fun. Also following through the tycoon phase is fun given how rare it is. If you can get promotion this season there is no reason to think that you can't go back to back. Really need those attendance levels to come up in order to see if the club can grow to the level of the FL. Particularly with some of those PSR rules that inhibit spending

[@itsTiagoSilva]

i understand the decision to stay and i also want to see the tycoon situation to develop. on the other side, Lincoln was a nice jumping point: bigger club with a decent structure for a push up the leagues

[@lampkanin]

I thought it was a good decision. Real life managers know they might get fired, especially after a big step up. Staying at club with the same money and with a tycoon that supports you for a longer contract is at least not an unrealistic proposition.

[@Refusal__]

Would have gone personally, national league to league one is a good jump

[@danlennox9073]

For realism, you definitely go to Lincoln, regardless of a tycoon being at Brackley.

[@josephbanks2128]

Same money though so realisticly most people wouldn’t move house and area for a new job that will pay the same

[@danlennox9073]

Opportunity to negotiate the Lincoln salary. Even a £200 a week rise is more than a £10k a year payrise.

[@lollujo]

I wouldn't have gone in real life in those circumstances.

[@willparker2282]

Should have moved on for realism. I feel like this is just going to be a one club save because of the tycoon

[@seannyt-b]

The 'tycoon' who, as of yet, hasn't really invested loads of money - anything other than promotion this season and NLTL loses the often- lauded realism Kev says he bases his decisions on. Even with promotion this year, he's 2 years away minimum from being where lincoln currently are with a tiny stadium and no fans/ fanbase of 1/8 or 1/10th of Lincoln.

[@declangaming24]

​@@seannyt-b he would have to ground share If his ground doesn't meet capacity rules maybe ground sharing would bring people in

[@bullseyebella4303]

I agree that the lincoln job would of been realisticly a no brainer, as would of been 2 leagues up, better player, and also in the shop window for bigger clubs in the future as the series is 'to legend' and going there as stepping stone to a much bigger club and supporters

[@lollujo]

I did what I would have done in real life.

[@alexrunsred526]

Very poor decision, going completely against the rules of the save. More money, money to spend, unbelievably bigger club confortabke two divisions higher

[@danhall76]

I would have made the move but how is it against the rules?

[@lollujo]

The rules of the save are that I have to do what I'd do in real life. Which I did.

[@peterbirch9493]

You made the right choice staying although I would have asked for a 25% increase of my wages after promotion rather then the 15% you signed for

[@dombillington2277]

There’s no way you’d turn down a League One club, even on the same money. Lincoln are a much bigger club with loads more potential, regardless of the tycoon. However, taking realism out of it, I understand why you’d wanna see how the tycoon takeover plays out. You’ve never had one before and might not get one for another decade!

[@lollujo]

I would have acted the exact same way in real life. I probably wouldn't have even gone to the interview.

[@charliehodgson6162]

Poor decision from you Kev.

[@jamesdrylie5584]

Not really. There is a good chance Kev gets promoted and Lincoln gets relegated so they are playing in the same league next year. And if he doesn't get more investment by the tycoon, he can easily get a League 1 or even Championship job in two years.

[@coreyreynolds01]

My understanding is that there are two types of Tycoon owners in FM: one that splashes the cash, and one that simply clears your debts and is willing to make infrastructure improvements. Seems like you got the latter. I doubt you’ll ever have big budgets. That said, you could simply run up huge debts and theoretically the Tycoon will just pay them off.

[@Chalks38]

Realism Kev Brackley manager would take the Lincoln job I think

[@elmarickneidel6171]

Agree

[@tombardsley3081]

Yeah even if Brackley had offered the same amount, I’d probably go to Lincoln. Although it depends on the circumstances (eg family but I guess that doesn’t factor into a game). He took the security of an additional year on the contract and money over the prestige of managing in a higher division.

[@tadhgbenson1081]

Why would a manger with a mega rich owner who is offering the same pay as this club want to leave where their is more expectations when league one is only a few years away with this owner the longer term potential is with Brackley and can build up support with board for if it ever gets challangeing the safety of the job and paycheck

[@Lukas-eh3dd]

I think it wasnt a very good idea to refuse Lincoln, but anyway, the series is very good

[@lollujo]

Rules are rules, I have to follow them.

[@hdtube7]

Baffling decision given the supposed tycoon hasn’t paid up

[@johnwhelpdale4464]

If you get promoted, play on with Brackley. If you don't, jump ship I think. I'm fine with not going to Lincoln as long as you get promoted.

[@apw9929]

If you were solidly on course for the title it would make sense to stay but I agree with the other comments that most managers wouldn’t turn down the chance to manage in league one unless offered WAY more money

[@lollujo]

It's not about what most managers would do. It's about what I would do.

[@crowroadaw]

Given the absence of any significant fan base at Brackley, and the "all talk, no trousers" nature of the tycoon to date, I'd have been off to Lincoln. ( I don't think Kev's decision "breaks the rules" or is "unrealistic", though ... it's just not the choice I would have made)

[@reecetiscoff1748]

I would’ve heard county out and maybe took that good club in league one and decent backing high wage budget would be a better step up

[@ethanhorton4231]

I know you have a tycoon but the problem is that even if you get promoted you still have the ffp cap in league 2 and based on the fact you generate no money you are gonna struggle to keep the players and wages you currently have because your revenue still isnt good enough and the fact you were able to avoid that issue and chose not to is more crazy than the realistic aspect of surely your reputation jumping massively being known as a manager that jumped 2 divisions

[@GAK8919]

Manager contract negotiations are utterly pointless in FM. They never offer you what you're worth or equivalent to other managers in the same league. Should've made the jump to Lincoln.

[@declangaming24]

They aren't at Chelsea I'm on £110,000 per week before that £73,000 plus the England job pays a additional £110,000

[@GAK8919]

@ if you’re on £800 a week in the NL and you get a job in L1 you get £1.1k even though all other managers in the league are on £3-5k. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@KG-vz7qi]

Its an awkward situation. I think you see what happens if you get promoted and see what the tycoon offers. It would be great to see you go all the way with Brackley because of the tycoon but this saves not about that. 😮😅

[@richardrink2505]

Good choice and a nice pay rise Kev.

[@pjtopor]

Definitely would have taken the Lincoln job fwiw

[@josephbanks2128]

Would have taken the Stockport job personally

[@Dom-wg8ne]

Not going up two divisions for the same money goes completely against the ethos of the save

[@lollujo]

I disagree. The whole purpose is to do what I'd do in real life. Which I did.

[@SithLordLerg]

Drama drama drama! What a game that was against Rochdale

[@askoldkeithsson845]

I would of gone to Lincolmn, a chance at league 1 is tempting, but saying that Ive done these sort of saves and tried to move clubs and they have gone wrong quick, so maybe staying where you are isnt a bad thing. Saying that though, now you have a payrise, can you get a better house 🙂

[@jack1906]

Career ambition would dicate a move to L1 in my opinion, and it felt like the game kind of punished you for while. I don't think the tycoon at that level is going to amount to anything.The penalty was a hand ball.

[@StrongLikeSheep]

I don’t mind the decision. Also don’t have to move house!

[@ht9007]

Honestly Kev I understand you not wanting to leave the Tycoon situation but as some of the others say, promotion this season or new club

[@ScottishHenry]

21:47 the referee just decided to give a pen for rochdale for no reason at all

[@jamesmoanaroa162]

Nah, bloody Agbinone decided to punch the ball clear. Quickly saw the ticker say he gave away a handball

[@papasmurfette007]

@@jamesmoanaroa162 Saw that with a cheeky rewind. Funnily enough Kev, who had no idea, subbed Agbinone off immediately anyway, so FM karma in operation...

[@showlett33]

Is it worth nabbing Stockport's Director of football?

[@dannnylad8119]

Everyone saying Lincoln was a step up is correct but the wage wasn’t great and with a tycoon many real life managers would also stay

[@tombardsley3081]

@@dannnylad8119 wage was pretty good. It works out at an additional 12 k a year salary wise.

[@kennykingshott2840]

Really strange decision

[@timmoore8623]

Silly Lincoln not offering you more money. Probably the wrong choice for the save but it’s NLTL not a normal save where you’re looking to win the Champions League in 5 seasons

[@fjcracing1318]

You’re about to go into a league with real financial fair play rules and are not ready for it. This tycoon is useless since he didn’t fund you properly in this important step. Terrible move not to go.

[@lolyouremad6021]

mental to reject lincoln! not realistic at all

[@davidcannon349]

It's meant to be realistic kev, the chance to jump two divisions isn't something a ambitious manager would turn down.

[@_nickers0n]

Think you are putting too much stock in the tycoon. Noticed Brackley is described as financially insecure in the last episode. Your bank balance is £600k in the red. Most managers would jump at the chance to go to a stable, well thought of club in League One from the national league.

[@jasonpike2329]

What you have to remember you're wage budget might well say 47,000 but in reality it's 37,000 I refuse to ever go a penny over a budget in principle, end of the day it's your game, you're choice, but 1.1k at brackely or 1.3k could prob got it up to 1.5 so that's a yearly pay rise of 4,800, league one football and 1m to spend, from what I've seen this is hardly a city or Newcastle tycoon he's given nothing realistically you'd always take the Lincoln job imo

[@danielwebb8402]

League 2 offer and choose to reject it not unreasonable. But league 1?????

[@ThreeRunHomer]

Are there any real life managers who have turned down a two tier leap?

[@elsesiy2ronaldo]

Yeah, many actually, just check out the former lower division clubs of Germany who came up via tycoons in the past, such as Hoffenheim, Leipzig, and more recently Heidenheim. They knew that with continuous good work combined with incomparable funding, they were going to surpass all the higher division clubs eventually, sticking with them all the way up to the top division.

[@reintaler6355]

​@@elsesiy2ronaldo Heidenheim isnt backed by a tycoon I don't think?

[@fjcracing1318]

Tycoon has ruined this save, Lincoln would’ve been a very cool move and much more realistic than staying in a Vanarama team with an owner who has a history of lying to you about promised finances.

[@lollujo]

I did what I would do in real life. That makes it the most realistic option.

[@sykeswinn9781]

Not that I’m bias as an imps fan but you should have took the Lincoln job

[@elmarickneidel6171]

Should have gone. Not realistic

[@GandalfGecko]

Third round of the FA cup in real life is Tamworth vs Tottenham 😮😮😮

[@papasmurfette007]

Lamb and spuds. Yummy...

[@doctormarky]

TomFM is gutted you said no

[@richardfoster8463]

Nah that Lincoln job was the one - especially as it looks like you’re probably going to lose in the playoffs this year and may get sacked

[@ryanstubbs_]

Should have gone to Lincoln mate. In the spirit of “reality”, most would have made the move and I mean, is it realistic that a tycoon billionaire takes over brackley anyway lol

[@lollujo]

Realism means making the decision I would in real life. Which I did!

[@samwalker8821]

I agree with Kev's decision. I've had a tycoon in FM before and the money they put in is scaled to the division you're in. Why would they give £22 million to a non-league club when it takes a fraction of that to give them the highest wage budget in the league.

[@writetoustwo]

How many chairs in the new house?

[@ConstantinoHaza]

Stay with the tycoon, it's the wise ambitious choice, contrary to dumb ambition

[@michaelwaddington1356]

Everyone saying its unrealistic, do you think Phil Parkinson hasnt been offered jobs in league one when manageing in the national league. Also saying the tycoon hasnt delivered, pretty sure hes got a bigger wage budget than most in league 2 already. Is there not a wage cap in League 2 anymore?

[@dombillington2277]

Wrexham is a massive club with huge potential. Brackley just isn’t at all. Compare the stadiums and attendances for a start!

[@pratyushpathak8690]

You should'vd taken the job, Kev

[@kresimirhorvath]

Guys cant u understand that every nltl is literaly the same, he alrdy did it this fm so i think to change it up abit tycoon backing is more interested to watch. Jumping to L1 is too easy for old Kev

[@jamesproctor4596]

Imagine turning down a league one team and then still being in non league next year 😂 question…is a tycoon classed as a tycoon all the way up the Leagues or is he classed as a tycoon just because of the league you’re in? It’s a shame we can’t see owners net worth 😜

[@John-sl7xv]

Why not rename east to Delboy and your midfield would be delboy and rodney

[@bertjuh05]

Marsh > Ihonvien

[@GateTree]

Bradley has the “hates big games” trait which is a non-starter for me. I think that’s why he did not score in that game despite all the opportunities.

[@tryfan987]

New house time with that new contract kev?

[@papasmurfette007]

Should be able to afford a place with more chairs, surely...

[@TheRealTrevStorm]

Love the prospect of this being the first single club NLtL!!

[@DdOommmmm]

Can't call this non league to legend if you turn down huge job upgrades. One club save.

[@lollujo]

I wouldn't turn down a huge job upgrade.

[@daverichards4869]

Thats a pretty bad move imo could of pushed lincoln up imo

[@steveburton8904]

Under the save rules, would have taken the Lincoln job. Two leagues up, massive budget increases. They would offer a manager from non league on the way up a smaller contract anyway. Get the feeling this is going to be a kne club save, which would be annoying

[@lollujo]

Under the save rules, I had to stay at Brackley.

[@steveburton8904]

@lollujo it's your save - but I would imagine if you offered any NL manager in their third season a step up to league one with Lincoln, it would be a no brainer

[@lollujo]

I would imagine if you asked somebody to change jobs to a completely different part of the country, move their family, move house, change kids school, etc, they’d want a decent pay rise.

[@joshinio]

That Lincoln decision is so bad I nearly gave the video a thumbs down (but I could never betray Kev like that)

[@CallumLamb-jj6ez]

Feel like turning down Lincoln is a bad decision

[@lollujo]

It was the decision I would have made in real life.

[@Hurbster2112]

I would have gone, L1 is a huge step up. Depends on promotion and whether the chairman gives you some money.

[@jonnyhull7860]

Should of gone to lincoln bigger club

[@lollujo]

That's not the only criteria I consider though

[@honestjohn7513]

Realism..... broken

[@hellothere8807]

I'm here a tad earlier than usual

[@BradSGP]

Am guessing you restarted at reset the RNG... Very over powered part of the game that makes far too much difference

[@timmoore8623]

🎉🎉