Tyla: The Coloured Population is 8% of South Africa

[@jordins1909]

Nice thing about South Africans is that we just sit back and laugh at people like you❤

[@AXFN_]

While I agree with this as a Brit who was already aware of South African Coloureds, I'm likely the minority. I genuinely feel that xenophobia can go both ways. Your tone here unintentionally feels like it's dismissing and belittling South Africans - which is the stereotype of Americans (that they think they're no.1, they know best, it's their way or the highway, and other countries, and their perspectives, are irrelevant nuisances to be dealt with). For that reason I do somewhat sympathise with the frustration towards the US that many non-Americans feel. And it is a resentment that most Americans can't quite understand because Americans grow up in a country that is THE global hegemonic power. Growing up within that can sometimes give Americans a certain complacency, or 'main character syndrome'. There was something about Americans browbeating Tyla over her identity that gave off vibes of American exceptionalism & cultural imperialism to me, _i.e. "We know best. And we control the money and entertainment infrastructure, so see the world the American way, Tyla...OR ELSE! Do as we say or we'll tank your career!"_ It's how the US government bullies other countries using it's political/economic/military might, and it's how its citizens often flippantly engage with perspectives from other nations, giving a Americans a bad name overall overseas. It's a America's world, and the rest of us are just living in it. 🤷🏾‍♂ I feel like black Americans forget this power dynamic when they're speaking to the diaspora because they're not used to being seen as the more "privileged" group, but you are privileged by virtue of being American. You're used to talking about 'White Privilege' but y'all aren't used to analysing your 'American privilege' and hyper visibility in entertainment compared to the rest of us. I don't think an American should play victim when it comes to xenophobia, the average Black American has more power and influence than the average African. While they may be deulusional, as you say, and whilst I hate oppression olympics, critiques Africans have of Americans in this system feel like 'punching up', while Americans being dismissive or belittling towards others in the diaspora, ALWAYS feels like 'punching down'. Keep that in mind.

[@arethabezuidenhout3840]

As a Coloured South African, I wish I could pin this comment !

[@Jayme9296]

I just read your comment and I agreed about many things you said. I felt you were trying to be as fair as possible. As a black American woman I just want to mention a few things to please consider. When I heard the song Water, I really liked it. I thought Tyla was different, beautiful and has her own style. I personally have never been a rap fan. So Tyla was a breath of fresh air for BA women. As a new artist BAW would be her major fan base. BAM may find her beautiful but they are not following her music. I personally feel Tylas promoters did a terrible job introducing her to the American audience. Let me give an example. Beyonce is iconic and stunning but I love Rihannas style and music. BAW embraced Rihanna BECAUSE Rihanna embraced us. I could clearly hear her lovely accent but had no idea what country she was from. Overtime Rihanna talked about Barbados and I thought it was great. I really did not know a lot about Barbados except it was a beautiful vacation spot. Did you hear BAW complaining about Rihanna being a proud Barbadian and loving her country?? I do not think so. During the BET awards Rihanna stood on the stage with her lovely black Barbadian mother and said " I am a proud BLACK woman ". She did not seperate herself. The difference was Barbados gracefully shared Rihanna with the world. And BAW already knew how much she loves her country. Personally Tyla is not on the same level as Rihanna by talent. Water was not Unbrella. Physically, Tyla is very pretty. Rihanna was tall and stunning. She also has a mixture, her father is biracial. That is where Rihanna beautiful eye color comes from, her father. Tyla came out immediately, " othering " herself. She could have said she was from South Africa ( the end). Instead she let BAW know she was NOT black but " colored ". Now, maybe that is for her to get all American fans. But that would happen anyway if she is talented. And BA culture entertainment means something in America, it always has. And no matter how colored she is. In the States, Tyla is going to be seen as a new black entertainer. Just like all the Latin groups. They are Mexican, Cuban, Puerto Rican, Brazilian, etc. But wp and bp see them as Latin music catagory. I had no problem with Tyla being South African or being colored. We were just explaining in America colored is a negative. Instead of her embracing our history her South African fans lit into BA. Suddenly we were jealous and haters. It was ridiculous. I understand SA being proud and we were not trying to change disrespect her. If I went to SA and the native people told me a tradition I would respect it. The next thing you know the back and forth gets ugly and personal. Poor Tyla was caught in the middle and did nothing wrong. The SA fans were making things tough for her. She just wants the world to see her talent. Maybe things will change and BAW will let it go. But I would advise SA to calm down insulting BAW. Having a popular entertainer from another country in NOT a big deal. Foreign actors and entertainers have been coming here for generations. If America like them, we support them. The end.

[@AXFN_]

@@Jayme9296 enjoyed reading your thoughts 👍

[@thabomoiloa2498]

The way she laughed you can tell these thing is bipolar

[@sbonelondlovu8549]

😂😂😂

[@romanvanstaden4531]

What's you're point. African Americans are also the minority of America

[@Kiki_8910]

" the math ain't mathing " ofc it isn't. Since when is 60×8=300 and when did we start comparing countries to those regarded as continents? And for a nation who regards themselves so highly when it comes to everything, you'd expect them to be educated on a matter in which they end up getting so sensitive about. Also, one can't expect a country to indulge in and educate themselves about a country they deem as miniscule and irrelevant to theirs.

[@LunaJay52]

Lmfao she thought she ate😂. Get out here with your struggling podcast 😂

[@lokilemats]

😂😂😂😂I thought she was big!!! Tyla would make the sum of all her YT views in 6 hours and yet she is trying to bring her down!!

[@LunaJay52]

@@lokilematsshe is Dizzy😂😂 she’s smoking that thing

[@Assata_Shakur]

Yet you are HERE!😮

[@LunaJay52]

@@Assata_Shakur don’t try defend nonsense. Came here coz she mentioned South Africa

[@rolexrich1927]

Go listen to sexy red and be single and alone

[@NoNicheZonePod]

Would love to but Tyla won’t go home & yall wont stay out of my comments

[@rolexrich1927]

@@NoNicheZonePod You need to come home with her, maybe you will think further than your long ass teeth and gain more IQ than the views on your channel

[@rolexrich1927]

I dont like you.

[@kguthatsosibuyi3092]

Jou ma se poes

[@christodotl]

Sê ma weer.

[@thembelihlekhoza7086]

That time their native language it’s English

[@yapyap3]

Your insecurities are showing, big sis.

[@tigertee4348]

My sister. You are using your ignorance to justify your ignorance and asking us not to say that you are ignorant. Your expectations are unrealistic. Which can also be characterized as......

[@faizalkassim1556]

Comparison is the thief of Joy. Also I dont think this is the 'no niche zone' anymore. #justsaying

[@NoNicheZonePod]

@@faizalkassim1556 thankfully no one asked for nor cares abt ur opinion. Pro tip: u look like a fool offering up unsolicited advice to strangers in the internet. WE DONT KNOW EACHOTHER. WHO cares what you think?? LMAO

[@thembelihlekhoza7086]

@@NoNicheZonePodwho also cares about this clout chasing podcast , oh girl we coming for you 😮

[@NoNicheZonePod]

@@thembelihlekhoza7086clearly you do. Cuz ur here commenting. When ppl dnt care they scroll. Actions not matching up with ur words buddy 😂

[@thembelihlekhoza7086]

@@NoNicheZonePodwas just giving you heads up 🤭

[@christodotl]

​@@NoNicheZonePodbut you're talking about our race on your channel. So it is concerning that you're speaking about us as a people let alone Tyla being one of us. The fact that you're this dismissive of our opinions and not taking in any suggestions about researching SA proves us right about what we've been saying about some of you black people all along - Arrogant and entitled. You being of that example of some black people in america and giving your own community a bad name. As far as the 8% goes? That matters. You dont have to like it, but there are people in your community that will surely learn of us some how. Deal with it.

[@eltonadkins7839]

And tell us how much percentage does African Americans make up in the States?

[@africantraveler7004]

Less than 12%

[@lblx.ck3003]

Have you even been to South Africa before? Y’all like talking about things you don’t know…

[@NoNicheZonePod]

Nope. And now I never want to go. Crossed off the travel list

[@africantraveler7004]

@@NoNicheZonePod you probably don't even have a passport like over 70% of your African American ilk & have likely never been anywhere beyond your US borders otherwise you wouldn't be so horrifyingly ignorant

[@thembelihlekhoza7086]

@@NoNicheZonePod careless 🥱 . You just don’t want respect other peoples race & ethnicity

[@TMap-dg3rj]

You know there are coloured out side of South Africa right in fact there are coloured populations in most of the SADC region just staying in South Africa you claim 8% is a small minority yet there are literally more coloured South Africans than there are white South Africans..should we discount white South Africans??

[@traceydumase]

Shhhh, don't tell her that. Let her continue believing she's cooking with this ignorant ass commentary. Let her get her views

[@HendryLouw]

I just wanna know why are you comparing a continent with a country, because it's giving unadulterated for real, because you are clearly out of your mind to compare SA with the USA. USA needs to be compared with Africa because Africa is the continent of SA and for the record here in SA we study every single thing on this earth no matter how big,small or rare it is we know ish.

[@sbonelondlovu8549]

Americans can't use Google for shit... I thought black people were better clearly I was wrong

[@NoNicheZonePod]

@@HendryLouw the slowness of ppl on this app. Wow. This clip is a part of a larger convo that you obviously missed. Context boo. Context. Next time assume you might be missing info rather than the person speaking being wrong. Wrote a whole paragraph of nonsense

[@LunaJay52]

⁠​⁠@@NoNicheZonePodlol it’s giving, watch the full thing so I can up my views.. we only watching this part coz you mentioned South Africa..your podcast boring either way

[@thembelihlekhoza7086]

@@NoNicheZonePodyet you use the N word against each other 😂

[@sbonelondlovu8549]

@@NoNicheZonePod you just want views wena... And askis you won't be getting any🤡😂

[@blackzen014]

It's not our fault yohr school failed in teaching you geography 😂😂😂

[@thandiledondashe1637]

No wonder this podcast has an average of 400 views - the host is daft. Just imagine speaking so much on a topic and doing absolutely no research on what you’re talking about

[@jessiemokwena1950]

This podcast will always be a niche

[@tondani6663]

So sad a black woman coming after a black woman sooo sad

[@NoNicheZonePod]

She ain’t black.

[@heinfb]

​​@@NoNicheZonePod you not black either. When you're ancestors went over to America to be enslaved they identified as by their ethnicities and by their culture and by thier tribe. When your ancestors landed in America you where called black by the ignorant white man who oppressed you. Then they forced you to bare their name. You are lost because you lost your African heritage sister. If you call yourself black, what do you actually mean by that???

[@KYLESMITH-k1b]

Think this girl need to take a test to she where she's from

[@manakixiv8690]

If youre just trying to get a reaction from us then youre good. But if you believe everything youre saying... I urge you to do a bit more research

[@ArchieBooysen]

You should do your research more, because if you, did, you would have found, that, That the Coloureds got West African DNA in their bloodlines Deu to slavery those, West African slaves, didn't leave the shores of SA, nor did they join any , black SA tribe, they stay, and is the ancestors, of the, Coloureds

[@Sandile_Mlangeni]

Lomuntu uyasidakela nje, ayikho indaba yakhe, uyaz ukuthi for ukuthu aTrender kumele ahlasele izwe lethu.

[@traceydumase]

Yep, her highest views are on the topic of Tyla. She knows what she's doing lol

[@User.777.1]

​@@traceydumasewe making her sickle cell channel grow

[@traceydumase]

@@User.777.1 Not sickle cell🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Assata_Shakur]

You got them mad in the comments, Sis! You told no lies! Keep up the good work!

[@NoNicheZonePod]

@@Assata_Shakur hahaha. They’ve BEEN mad. No one cares 🥱

[@FOG_StreetwearMemoir]

Uhlanganaphi wena

[@nazikay1340]

So u gonna seat there and look down on the whole country size n staff.How does that help your life!!!!!…. Americans!!!!

[@patrickrichards6000]

Shame ne wat do you now the koisan poepil first go back to to koisan poepil first in African 1110 /1210 / 1410year's go back girl 50 in African 50 coloured mixes lyk wit black in African 1652 we the start shame ne 1994 ANC 2024 coloured time girls