Tape vs. Tapeless: The Ultimate Guide to VHS, Hi8, & MiniDV

[@DigitalInfinity]

Ended up buying a sony ccd-sc5 because of this video, searched it on FB marketplace and found it for $250, all accessories and even the bag, and paperwork. Crazy deal compared to the current sc7 for 900 bucks on ebay at the moment. Thank you for uploading! Will soon try to get into tapless recording, I do have some hi-8 tapes so i will be experimenting.

[@TylerCaseyProd]

@@DigitalInfinity legendary find! Definitely check out Dangy cams custom mount or even dev builds extender if you plan on going tapeless

[@DigitalInfinity]

@@TylerCaseyProd Hopfully will be making some vids soon, will def be looking into dev builds! I have my old childhood dcr-trv340 with nightshot, i want to get some sick ir night vision shots with it as well.

[@isaakmorin]

Appreciate the dedication and quality of this video! Anyone hating on this needs to reevaluate their own life and chill

[@TylerCaseyProd]

@@isaakmorin 😭🤝

[@Antwuantk]

This video came and the perfect time and inspired me to spend some money today. Thanks for such an in-depth intro to these types of cameras.

[@TylerCaseyProd]

@@Antwuantk glad I could help

[@Antwuantk]

@@TylerCaseyProd I ended up getting a TRV58 since I knew the setup with the powerplay would work after seeing this video 😆Question though, how do you record using the night shot mode without the massive words "NIGHTSHOT" in the frame? Not sure if it isn't going away because I don't have tape in the camera and it is just going to the powerplay.

[@TylerCaseyProd]

@@Antwuantk it may be an option in the menu usually mine just blinks and goes away quickly. Try it with a tape and maybe see if that makes a difference.

[@MickMod]

Good video, but I have some feedback regarding the Firewire method. 1. You don't necessarily need any weird adapters, there are USB-devices that have a Firewire input, for example a Pinnacle Moviebox. These work on Windows 10 at least, but can be kinda spotty because they're usually designed for Windows 7 or earlier. 2. The "does work for other formats than MiniDV" is wrong, it's also used for other formats, for example HDV and Digital8. You can also use (some) Digital8 cameras to play back Video8 or Hi8 tapes, which can be transferred in high quality using FW. 3. The "one long clip" part depends on the capture software you use, if I capture using Pinnacle Studio, it makes one long video. If I capture using WinDV, it splits up the clips into different files with filenames including the date and time they were recorded. If anyone has any questions about this stuff, just ask and I'll try my best to answer from my extensive experience :) -Mick

[@TylerCaseyProd]

@@MickMod Thanks for info! 1. Most videos I saw using USB C now there was a handful of converters you had to get especially for modern Macs 2. Thanks for the clarification! 3. Sounds very useful

[@MickMod]

@@TylerCaseyProd If you're using a modern mac you most likely need a weird setup for it to work, I just use an old Thinkpad running Windows 7 with built-in firewire and it's super simple plug'n'play. Might be worth looking for something similar if you're gonna do a lot of transfers as it really makes everything a lot simpler :)

[@TylerCaseyProd]

@@MickMod for sure! Used to use an old Mac back in high school with FireWire and it’s a breeze. Probably not to expensive to pick up these days!

[@Bleats_Sinodai]

A cheap on-the-go setup is android phone, USB Camera app, USB HDMI capture card, and AV to HDMI converter. Better picture and audio quality than RC and equivalents. About the the battery thing for VHS-C, I think depends on the camera, cus I was still able to find new batteries for my S-VHS-C Panasonic NV-S5 (though the camera is faulty).

[@Shuma123131]

Thanks for this video dude! Hope it gets more views like it should.

[@TylerCaseyProd]

Thanks for watching!

[@CinePacks]

Best tapeless video hands down 🔥

[@TylerCaseyProd]

I love you CinePacks

[@nodata6009]

There is another option you didn’t mention it’s MiniDVR it doesn’t have a screen but it is even cheaper and smaller then anything you showed. It records in HD quality lasts for about two hours and it is SUPER compact the only downside is that it comes with two A/V jack cables that you need to solder yourself but you can get the ImmersiveRC A/V cable for it to work. Definitely check it out would love to see a video about it from you and it cost only around 30$

[@TylerCaseyProd]

@@nodata6009 yeah there weren’t any any available on Amazon at the time of recording this but for got to mention. Not a bad option

[@Skoopman]

Thanks so much for this video! I’m looking to grab a Hi8 camera to just bring with me to parties with friends and family get togethers. I have a question if you don’t mind. I’ve been looking at a bunch of Sony TRV models and am having trouble determining which one to go with. So far I’m thinking the TRV75. Do you believe this would be a good camera to start with? I believe I’m going to mirror your tapeless Power-play build.

[@TylerCaseyProd]

Yeah that is a solid camera, Nice it has the hotshoe This camera is nice because it is small and compact for parties and what not. ebay.us/TPqXZ2

[@MakavEli_03-7]

I just picked up a jvc 44x recently and I’m trying to figure out what I need to run it this video helped but I’m still lost on trying to find the best adapter for it even though I see that it takes c-tape.

[@breadguything]

Just got a JVC GR-D90U yay

[@ElijahTichborne]

Cheers for this video

[@TylerCaseyProd]

@@ElijahTichborne thanks for watching📹📹📹

[@Gabriel-vt2jy]

Thank you so much! i just bought one and i was a little lost

[@TylerCaseyProd]

@@Gabriel-vt2jy glad I could help

[@GuiSlur]

Thank you so much for making this video! I'm currently studying how to use it, and it's been really helpful ❤

[@TylerCaseyProd]

@@GuiSlur glad I can help

[@xdvilo8632]

please what camera/effect did you use for the picture in 1:49? It looks like retro but modern in the same way

[@Tizzifyy]

I’m not sure why but I’ve charged the batteries you got for the Rcx and it’s worked a few times but now when they charge all the way the rcx beeps and doesn’t turn on. It still works just the batteries now for me aren’t working, not sure how to fix that

[@shotbydonn]

can you not get a workable chord for the rc power play from amazon? i need it pretty soon and not sure how fast the dev build site ships

[@TylerCaseyProd]

No you can email him and see how quickly he can ship to you. Let him know I sent you and use my code 😉

[@skaterdad562]

The devbuild build appears to be overpriced, considering the low production cost of the cables. The asking price of $30 seems excessive.

[@TylerCaseyProd]

@@skaterdad562 the cables are pretty solid to me and he’s making them by hand so I think it’s a pretty fair deal. You can always buy the immersion power play cable they sell now. I would just rather support a small creator.

[@skaterdad562]

Hello, I noticed a KZbin content creator named Max Vega who provides instructions on how to make these cables for a few dollars. However, I believe the $30 price tag is excessive for something that costs less than $5 to produce and takes no more than 5 minutes to assemble.

[@TylerCaseyProd]

@@skaterdad562 nobody is forcing you to buy it. It’s expensive to run a business either support small creators or build your own cable lol

[@isaakmorin]

@@skaterdad562for some people their time is worth more than $30 so it might not be worth it for you but for others the convenience is worth it.

[@femzzz05]

Or just get a fatshark cable

[@prestonstauffer2292]

This is great!

[@TylerCaseyProd]

@@prestonstauffer2292 thanks for watching appreciate that

[@TimatCarmona]

Hi, Tyler - loved your video. Do you know if the Sony TRV58 takes any NP battery? I ordered a camera and haven’t got it yet. I wanted to order some extra batteries. Thanks.

[@TylerCaseyProd]

@@TimatCarmona Just google your camera model and then battery and you can find out

[@fortnitetrener1283]

But what is the problem with VHS-C batteries? If the one i got isn’t good anymore, i can just buy a new one from amazon or am i missing something?

[@TylerCaseyProd]

@@fortnitetrener1283 if you can find them go for it. They are just harder to find that’s all

[@DorDeKrey]

That RC Powerplay jitter makes the footage difficult to watch...all of them excep the Elgato clearly aren't handling the interlacing correctly as its constantly jumping up & down by 1 line. For my eyes, the Elgato gives the most watchable picture with the ClearClick being 2nd. I'm lucky in that I have an old Toshiba laptop with a firewire port on it, so I can run 1 cable from my Sony Handycam DCR-TRV19 MiniDV to the laptop with 1 cable.

[@TylerCaseyProd]

@@DorDeKrey yeah an old laptop isn’t a bad option

[@spaceboybrandon]

I have the rc power play and the batteries you linked but when I charge it with a usb c cable and it says 100% and I use it it dies right away when turning it on in 1 minutes drops down all the way to 5% do I gotta charge the batteries off the rc power play? Or what do I do

[@TylerCaseyProd]

@@spaceboybrandon charge the batteries with the charger they came with then put them in the RC power play

[@Exodus310]

I have a question. My camera has the no tape symbol right in the center. Will it show once I connect the power play or does it not show up on the power play screen.

[@TylerCaseyProd]

@@Exodus310 mine doesn’t. The only thing that showed was night shot, and I just had to turn it off demo mode

[@Exodus310]

@ thank you!’

[@kooljesus]

Do u know the best render quality for instagram with these camcorders?

[@TylerCaseyProd]

@@kooljesus you could just upscale it to 1080p

[@jamesjr2550]

Seems like vhsc batteries are bought alot lately just a few months ago they were everywhere kastar and duracell erc

[@TylerCaseyProd]

@@jamesjr2550 good to know!

[@femzzz05]

Would this work with the sony dcr trv245

[@TylerCaseyProd]

@@femzzz05 yes

[@femzzz05]

@@TylerCaseyProd thanks man

[@vwestlife]

That is a Digital8 camcorder. The best way to capture video from it is to connect it to a computer via FireWire, as that will preserve the video in its original digital form, rather than losing quality by converting it to analog and then back to digital.

[@femzzz05]

@@vwestlifeI dont mind loosing a bit of quality as I’m deliberately going for that aesthetic. Would you suggest going for tape straight or a tapeless build as shown here ?

[@vwestlife]

@@femzzz05 But bad digital capture does not make it look more like VHS. It just looks like bad digital video. Look up the video "Ben the surfer - Digital8 in 720p 60fps HD" if you want to see what Digital8 tape is supposed to look like, when properly de-interlaced and upscaled.

[@calvinferniza9564]

Im about to go check my moms basement right now I know she’s got a camera in there

[@TylerCaseyProd]

@@calvinferniza9564 do it lmk what you find 📹

[@Chifftie]

🐐🐐🐐

[@TylerCaseyProd]

@@Chifftie u the goat

[@DRACOFURY]

I absolutely hate miniDV Like FireWire to USB don't work you gotta get 4 cables to get the footage 😤 drives me nuts

[@TylerCaseyProd]

That is exactly why I didn't do it lol Glad someone had this experience!

[@DRACOFURY]

@@TylerCaseyProd I'm gonna sell it I like HI8 anyway... 😒

[@TylerCaseyProd]

@@DRACOFURY keep it and use a capture card or get a powerplay

[@DRACOFURY]

@@TylerCaseyProd yea I feel you... But I made some some magic with my sony handycams... That grimy 90's feel like a heavens gate recruit videos or a skateboard 🛹 mixtape. The capture card does make sense 😌

[@DRACOFURY]

@@TylerCaseyProd *Mini DVR* is it legit

[@KILLGRADY]

firewire is the only way to go with mini dv!! composite defeats the purpose

[@TylerCaseyProd]

@@KILLGRADY what if the tape decks broken