LED Panel vs Point Source | What Light Should You Use?

In this video, I talk about the difference between a point source light and LED panel light and why you may want to use one over the other.
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[@TylerEdwards]

Panel or point source? What’s your choice?? Comment below! 👇👇

[@TommyCallaway]

yes!

[@jasoncha1148]

LED panels 😜

[@FancyAthan]

Personally, I think a point source is a great starting light.

[@aleksanderwicherski8145]

both as in your super cool example in this video!!!

[@SustainableGal]

Both but, getting a godox vl-150 soon

[@stevenp6761]

I learnt this from Hungary's most famous portrait photographer (he used to work in Hollywood, unfortunately he died a few years ago at age +90): Almost everyone's nose is curving a bit towards the left or the right, and to counter-balance this in photography, you want to place the main light on the "shorter" side. For example: if you look at this video, his nose is going towards his left, but he placed the light on his right. This makes the curvature effect more prominent. So ideally, he should have placed the main light on the other side, on his left - and the shadow would hide / lessen the curvature. This is something that very few photographers know, it was only thought by great masters in the early / mid 20th century.

[@michelbeeler8103]

Now i can't unsee it 😄 Didn't knew this trick

[@manzelllyles1804]

This mainly applies to photography or still, non-moving subjects such as interviews. For action or moving shots, depending on where the actor is headed, you may not always be able to likgt the subject's "good side." That being said, photography subjects are usually not in motion, and if you are shooting in a studio, you can predict or direct their movement. There are lots of photographers who emphasized how to study the face, as well as how to light & pose subjects to enhance their good side & hide flaws. Two popular options I readily know are Monte Zucker and Clay Blackmore, both who were portrait masters. Monte was a Canon "Explorer of Light," was the United Nations Photographer of the Year, and created the Monte Zucker Pneumatic Posing Stool and Westcott's Monte Illuminator Reflector, along with some of their light kits (many discontinued; he passed in 2007). He had an online social forum for photographers at Zuga.net (also closed) where he taught how to study the face, critiqued images, and coached photographers. There are quite a few current famous high-end photographers who came from that website. He died awhile ago, but I'm sure you can find many books and videos he made about portrait photography and studying & lighting the face. Some of the poses and looks may be dated, but his insight is still worth looking up.

[@flypieTV]

Great video. I’ve been looking for this info for several hours and you’ve nailed it. Don’t worry about the rambling, be confident in your expertise and know that those of us who are less experienced are grateful to you for sharing.

[@TylerEdwards]

Thank you!! I appreciate the kind words!

[@shadowshapers]

I love a great nerdy ramble about technical stuff related to filmmaking. Thanks for sharing your experience and wisdom.

[@TylerEdwards]

🙏🙏🙏 thanks so much for the kind words!!

[@jeetabhii]

Your ‘rambling’ is of so much value for someone trying to gather knowledge about various lights! Thanks, man 😊 Cheers!

[@TylerEdwards]

🙏🙏

[@prahinc4832]

In the opening how you explain how a really good video should be like is so valuable. The details that matter is often the hardest to understand until someone points it out. Thank you

[@aristomenis_k]

Excellent video Tyler, very well organized even without the script. I was searching for a panel vs cob light comparison video and I was happy to rewatch yours!

[@TylerEdwards]

Thanks man! Glad you dropped by as always!

[@CrispyAF]

The lighting is so good in this! 🙌

[@TylerEdwards]

Thanks!

[@fr.loomis997]

This was by far the most helpful video on this topic I’ve seen. I also appreciate the mention of specific products/companies so I know where to begin my search. All this talk about lights, I couldn’t stop watching the sun moving across the windows between cuts, haha.

[@TylerEdwards]

Glad it was helpful! haha ya, it would probably be way less noticeable if I just used a teleprompter and run through it in one take hahah

[@hedgehogenglish]

Thanks! This video is really helpful. I'm trying to figure out what kind of lighting I need right now and it is so much more difficult than I first imagined.

[@LeonidZabolotin]

I've been searching for a video that would explain to me which light is better for me and I finally found this information here in this video. Thank you very much!

[@TylerEdwards]

Wow, that’s so awesome! Thanks for sharing!

[@terranceroberts2919]

Your rambling is appreciated you know your stuff so it's not just ramblings

[@lamontmcleod2]

Great job man. Fellow Filmmaker sent me, and this was a good video. At the end you mentioned how turning the lights at the back off made it seem more serious... That's something that not enough youtubers talk about, so if you ever wanna talk about what lights create what mood, I for one would be very interested to hear that!

[@TylerEdwards]

Thanks so much! It is definitely something I plan on talking about in a future video!

[@alexsanroman3861]

I second that idea. That would be a very interesting video to watch.

[@schuey323]

As always, fantastic video Tyler. I’m already utilizing my 300D2 to the max just like you are. Utterly salivating over that P300 Nova! That’s the next lighting investment.

[@TylerEdwards]

I appreciate the feedback Didier! The nova is a fantastic tool for sure!

[@brianlach]

This is great! Thanks so much for sharing your insight, love this sort of detailed explanation.

[@MsQwerasdf1234]

accidentally found your channel , stayed and watched every single one of ur vids. damn it's good!

[@TylerEdwards]

A happy accident! Thanks for the kind words!

[@MIGUELANAYASUBSCRIBE]

This video was extremely helpful Thankyou for makeing this video 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@MotMovie]

Don´t worry about the rambling etc. I think you were on the message all the time and it was all surprisingly coherent regarding how free flowing and understated it all felt. Subscribed based on just this video. Just keep doing what feels right and don´t overproduce yourself, I think you got something airy and nice going there ;)

[@TylerEdwards]

Thanks so much for the kind words!

[@a.singleton8529]

Excellent comparison LED Panel vs Point Source. Awesome!

[@dadknowsbest3329]

Great work, always enjoy the content 🙌🏻

[@TylerEdwards]

🙏🙏🙏 thanks so much!

[@Mike0193Azul]

Very helpful explanation & examples thank you.

[@freddymiguelponce]

First time in your channel. Great video!

[@1001Hobbies]

VERY INFORMATIVE video. Something else to hit on is probably the fact that the 300d MK II COB light and P300C are likely around 15 - 20% brightness, meaning a person can get away with much cheaper and less bright lights. Lights the level of an Amaran 60d (no yet available at the time of this video I realize) and a P60c (also not yet available, but I own both these lights) would also light this scene exactly the same on a much lower budget. Yes, there are times when more light is needed for a different shooting situation, but for this dimly lit scene smaller lights (and lower cost) would do just as well of a job. I have only used the full 100 watts of my 100d a couple times. About 85-90% of the time I am using 15 - 35%, and that is why I also picked up an Amaran 60d, which can also be powered off of Sony NP-F batteries for convenience when power is not otherwise available.

[@emumist]

Thank you!!

[@marksaustralia6464]

Informative, and paced well. Thanks.

[@aorzya]

Thanks for the info! Packed with info and at the same time easy to understand.

[@TylerEdwards]

Thanks!

[@alphapyro360]

I like the real world examples. Would love more!

[@WonderFilm]

Wow! This video was incredible. I love how you talk about the different creative applications. It definitely helped me see the different uses of a point source. I'm trying to buy some lights and this really helped me see the difference.

[@TylerEdwards]

Thanks for watching and so glad it was helpful!

[@jasoncha1148]

Thanks for another great video Tyler!! Keep it up!

[@TylerEdwards]

Thanks Jason! I appreciate it!

[@frame88multimedia]

Thanks for glossing over quickly for the more experienced guys. Sometimes videos can get a little to teachy about bunch of stuff you don't care about or sound like an infomercial Get Job!

[@emiliesheng]

Great video, I find it very helpful and well explained! thank you!

[@mateoallen]

I love the lighting in this shot! Great image

[@TylerEdwards]

Thank you! 🙏

[@scott_the_dreamer]

always loved your content brotha

[@videocasetteTV]

Awesome keep posting like this, your explanation is better than text books

[@TylerEdwards]

🙏🙏🙏

[@moshezuchter]

Love your videos. Super informative. Thanks!

[@TylerEdwards]

Thanks so much! Glad you liked the video!

[@carlosq00]

Great video with a lot of very useful info bro! The more I learn about light the harder and harder it is to pick any one single type. haha

[@TylerEdwards]

Thanks bro! And I agree. Great thing there are so many great options out there on the market! Appreciate you brother!

[@markokovacevic3225]

Great explanation Tyler!

[@TylerEdwards]

Thanks Marko!

[@WealthyPanda]

Very informative video. Thank you 😊

[@wiremonkeyshop]

I thought you were concise and very informative. Good stuff! I would have loved to have seen more setups, but I know, lots of time.

[@TylerEdwards]

Thank you!

[@winstonvlogs]

Very insightful video!

[@BenCaesar]

Dude I honestly learnt so much. Instant sub

[@TylerEdwards]

🙏🙏🙏

[@edinechannel5704]

Awesome man, greetings from Indonesia

[@panomavridis]

To the point. very helpful! what I needed at the time...

[@alexchen1981]

Very useful advice, thank you

[@TylerEdwards]

Glad it was helpful! Thank you!

[@visionairecreativehouse1734]

Great insight! Thank you! 🙏

[@asmakhan1632]

i really wanted to see how you set it up or which light you were talking about, as you talked about it so a pov/bts video, even off a phone camera would've been really useful! thanks for giving the other tips and easy to understand pros&cons list!!

[@MultiDoudou22]

Thanks for the video, very helpful!

[@ChrisHerath]

Great video, I think YT needs more lighting-related content instead of only camera reviews. It's tough to find good quality lighting videos. Saving up for the Nova now and love my set of 300dii's.

[@TylerEdwards]

Thanks Chris! I appreciate you dropping by. I agree, if there was as much emphasis on lighting as “cinematic b-roll,” there would be much more cinematic content on KZbin 😂

[@ChrisHerath]

@@TylerEdwards I would like to see a tutorial on lighting a wide interview shot. For example, interviewee on a stool and having one camera wide head to toe, second camera tight. Struggling to get it right since the key has to be far away.

[@nerdynicknacksandgeekygear8682]

I have a Nova and I adore it. But I find myself pushing my 60D through a scrim to be my go-to when I'm out in the field.

[@vanessamarlowe]

This was so helpful! Thank you!

[@TylerEdwards]

Glad it was helpful, thanks for watching! 🙏

[@atogweoghieaga2205]

Quite informative. Keep on!

[@kenanali586]

No, no need scripts, this is way better. Subbed and liked. I never like or dislike, but this got it.

[@SustainableGal]

It's way better when you ramble on my friend - we get way more info! great vid as always

[@TylerEdwards]

Haha thanks so much!

[@make_malvina_up]

Really informative and helpful. Thank you for making this video.I am in the market for the best lighting for beauty/makeup tutorials. Do you suggest a led or point source for makeup tutorials? Also, how many lights do you think are a must for filming makeup tutorials ?

[@MikeEdwardsphotography]

Well presented. Thank you.

[@TylerEdwards]

Thanks so much!!

[@reminiscentroadmedia]

Thanks. Have both now. Will use them more intentionally and informed now.

[@ronynikke]

Hello... so spotlight vs soft which is more soft putting diffusion panel in a spotlight ?

[@MBimmer]

Well that was very informative 👍🏼 thank you

[@bralynstokes9193]

At first I thought your window light was just tube lights sitting behind difussion curtains. I thought that's brilliant and looks really good! Then the light changed and realized it was the actual sun lol. Might be something to recreate. It was beautiful.

[@TylerEdwards]

Haha good idea! I might have to make a video on that! Thanks for watching!

[@rapbisnar]

love this setup

[@chadbarnard3620]

Lighting has always been that scary thing that I think I'm going to mess up so this was super helpful to just take a step back and remember the basics

[@delluxesports6392]

Great video my man

[@TylerEdwards]

Thank you!

[@PandaUTC]

that is a lot of info here, thanks

[@steve7015]

Trying to get first lights and this really helped. Gonna go for the point source light for now. Thanks! wondering, how many watts from single point source would I need of studio portraits?

[@brentpaul]

Great vid. Great lighting. Since you asked for a tip on he video, I wouldn’t say what you’re gonna talk about next, just talk about it. And a script would help, or at least bullet points. Thanks for the info.

[@aleclatulippe]

Very valuable, thank you!

[@EricvanVuuren]

Thnx for the video, love your style 🤟🏻

[@TylerEdwards]

Thanks Eric! 🙏🙏🙏

[@shapeofpi]

Hi Tayler, fantastic video! Lot of great info packed in there and, quite frankly, it's the only video I've stumbled upon that goes deeper into this comparison. Great job! Could you give me your advice? I currently own the and constantly use 120D II, along with a few smaller bicolor panels, but I find myself needing a lot more light. I'm contemplating whether I should go for a 300D II or the Nova P300c? I do plan on getting both, but not sure which one to go for first. Point source is a more versatile option, plus the 300D II is a bit brighter (Is there a very big difference in output in your experience?), but having the color control brings another league of creativity (not a fan of gels on very bright and hot lights unless I absolutely have to use them haha). If it were my first light I'd definitely go for the 300D II, but since I've got the 120D II, I'm not sure. What would you go for since you've got both? Thank you!

[@BrandonLiUnscripted]

Shotdeck user I see ;-) Thanks for the info!

[@TylerEdwards]

Haha definitely! Love shotdeck!! Thanks for dropping by, love you’re work!

[@2cats1guy]

Really helpful. Thank you.

[@dewaynetodalen4491]

Hi Tyler, thanks for this video. We are in Parker, Colorado.

[@TylerEdwards]

Awesome! Just down the road!

[@asmr_reviews]

Great video! 👍🏼 I’m based in Colorado to

[@TylerEdwards]

Nice!! Colorado is awesome!🏔️

[@MrJPG1000]

Really great, lots of information and nice visual examples, and I like the speed talking. Alas, if you are relatively inexperienced (and the theme is so basic, it addresses the novices ...), you might have difficulties with all the specific names. A beginner perhaps doesn't know what a "Two-by" is, or what the specifics of a "Skylight" are ...

[@abdurrahmanghanem8499]

Thank you for the video. Are the soft boxes (with regular bulbs) out of comparison because they are less reliable than the LED panel or point source? I want to know your opinion about them, specially those which are marketed with (45w x 12 bulb ... and so on). Thank you again.

[@aleksanderwicherski8145]

thank you for the video! I love your lighting setups, they are super informative and I can learn tons from them! would love to see the BTS picture of the setup if you could include it in the future! thank you so much and looking forward to more of this awesome content!!!

[@TylerEdwards]

Thanks so much! I have quite a few lighting breakdown videos on my channel!

[@DuffTV]

Brilliant information, lobe your vibe. Maybe just slow down the speech a tad. We are a bit slow over here in OZ. Lol

[@johnnuckolls7795]

Great and informative video.

[@TylerEdwards]

Thanks, glad you like it!

[@ValentijnStomp]

Loving the look, what kind of filtration did you use?

[@SteveHubbardGuitar]

Well done sir! Subbed.

[@user-nu8bf3bf9m]

Which heat shield gel do you use on set? I happened to melt my color gel with my Aputure 300d mkII before and was looking for a solution so it'll be great if you tell me which one is right for your setup.

[@cevxj]

Bro, i subscribed at 43 seconds, that lighting is great. didn't notice cause it's also good, but audio is at a comfortable level 🥲✨

[@TylerEdwards]

🙏🙌🙏

[@talkintruthelliotkillian]

nice, helpful video, Ramble On 😉🤘

[@timgleaves9496]

Thanks for the info!

[@billf8217]

Very thorough

[@wheimsickal]

As far as your rambling on dude, the information density remains high throughout so it works great, at least for me. Rambling to me would be more like talking at length with low information density where it feels like time wasted without any new information. Love your format and B-roll example footage choices - just subscribed :D

[@TylerEdwards]

Thanks Paul!

[@OliGudbjartsson12]

Great video, you do know your stuff!

[@TheTsatsiz]

Great Content Man, keep it up

[@TylerEdwards]

Appreciate it!

[@jdlmediaco3541]

Cheers 🍻 thanks for the break down

[@TylerEdwards]

Cheers!

[@a.b.5757]

Really great explanation of lighting techniques. I am about to start a kids you tube channel and can't decide between 200x and 200d. The possibility to define exact color temperature seems to be a great and practical feature but then I will loose a lot of light power. Which model would you recommend?

[@Praxiszooms]

fantastic help!

[@TheAstrologyPodcast]

On the ground pointed up at the ceiling, that's brilliant

[@paudoingstuff]

Really informative and to the point. Great video! Subscribing to see more of your videos.

[@cookify6875]

Really interesting and well explained, I just checked your buttery luts and im interested for my R5, but i see that the clog one was made for the EOS R, that was 8 bit instead of 10 bit. Are you planning on releasing one for the R5 / R6? Thanks again mate!!

[@TylerEdwards]

For my canon LUTs, head over to www.tylerfedwards.com/luts There you will find clog 1,2&3 luts which work for all canon cameras.

[@dammithfonseka6302]

Great video cheers

[@jhlee6369]

great video!! thanks

[@TylerEdwards]

Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching!

[@z.onurcaliskaner7637]

Hi. I have really benefited. I would like to ask something herein. Actually i would like to obtain a light beam in haze in the scene 7:05, for instance. In this scene, a nice light beam was coming from the window behind. Which type of source, i mean panel led or point spot, do you recommend to achieve a haze like that. Thanks in advance :)

[@charlesnetzler2262]

Which light would you recommend for outdoor fashion? The talents are moving but the lighting assistant has about 1-2meter distance from the talent. I have been using an Aputure 300d but wondering if a smaller light setup will work like the godox ML60?

[@joonajks]

Hi, would a clamp light with a led daylight bulb be a good key light starter for a new KZbin channel in your opinion?

[@MARZILLI]

Nice job!

[@TylerEdwards]

Thanks! 🙏

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Amazing content!!!

[@TylerEdwards]

Thank you!! 🙏🙏

[@JohnnyJayVisuals]

looking for intros to lighting and find out your based in the same state as me thats so dope!!

[@thegenerousthief]

Great clip man! For a guy who’s just starting the hunt to get my first light this was a bang on. I went to look at the apurture 300II and the 60 today. 60 is small and versatile but I feel like I’m gonna grow out of it pretty fast. You think the 120 is a happy medium or should I just go all out and hit the 300 !? Cheers, James

[@TylerEdwards]

I’m always in favor of more output! Better to have it just in case is my philosophy

[@khoaidol]

Thanks mate