What Even is Half-Life 2: RTX?

[@TylerMcVicker1]

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[@OmoriOmori1337]

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[@voytec448]

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[@flamingscar5263]

​@@OmoriOmori1337not all of us are constantly keeping up with HL2RTX news, I didnt know a lot of this There is Value in taking known information and bringing it all to 1 spot, that's like the entire point of Wikipedia

[@sanekibeko]

Half-Life fans are truly dedicated people

[@illybee3]

trading sanity for dedication

[@zesty2023]

today's Valve doesn't deserve them.

[@Aycheffe]

Valve rewrote the gaming landscape so many times it's hard NOT to worship some of their products.

[@PlebNC]

Someone's gotta pick up Valve's slack on making Half-Life content. May as well be the community.

[@DogsRNice]

They're so into half life that they've created multiple unfinished versions of half life 3 just like valve

[@BinaryReader]

I think nvidia should sponsor the project. It's crazy they aren't already.

[@pauldeddens5349]

When possible, profits over humanity. Why pay people if they will do your work for free?

[@mikegentgaming4533]

​@@pauldeddens5349It is not even profitable for them at all if they pay the team or not lol, they lost more money than gained in the gaming sector last quarter

[@ThisIsGlitch]

but they are, they got a spot in the Nvidia showcase and all that

[@ducky1681]

​@@ThisIsGlitchexposure isn't a payment method

[@PedroelNegra]

@@ThisIsGlitch how much is that in US dollars?

[@RockstarRomania]

In case of Portal Prelude RTX, it was remade by the same team that brought Portal Prelude, including the lead, Nicolas "Nyk018" Grevet.

[@DavePorkins]

Gawd why does looking at high res assets feel so good, I would just stare at filing cabinets and cardbord boxes if this was in VR

[@fireaza]

That's pretty what happened when Valve were play-testing Half-Life: Alyx! They realized players loved exploring every inch of the rooms and inspecting everything, so they focused on making the levels smaller, but MUCH more detailed.

[@factcore2091]

That was until that nightmarish Smiling Father Gregory appearance.

[@vixxito]

The people doing this should get compensated.

[@Wobbothe3rd]

It's a derivative work of Valve's. These kinds of mods can never be paid without Valves permission.

[@flamingscar5263]

​@@Wobbothe3rdthere isn't much legal precedent here The difference is that HL2RTX requires owning HL2 already, so Valve is profiting off the project so the grounds of fair use are muddy here One of the main pillars of fair use is market impact, will what your making replace the original, HL2RTX does not, you must own the original already

[@BarrieBM]

No because nvidia is not telling them to do it, nobody is forcing anybody to do this. It's just dedicated fans that like to change the game. Same way how skyrim has giant dedicated mods...

[@_devitryi_]

The fact that Half-Life fans are willing to output AAA quality assets with no extrinsic incentive expected is honestly beautiful. Showcasing pure passion and dedication that is rarely seen these days. Hat's off to the developers.

[@Sizifus]

Really wish VALVe would have taken the initiative with this one and give a hand in directing the remaster process and get people compensated for the work. The models presented are mad impressive in their details, but I hope they all adhere to performance requirements and one unified artistic style. Maybe it is, I don't know.

[@flamingscar5263]

Valve is partnered with AMD for the deck and AMD is known for their exclusivity deals with their partners Valve may just be contractually banned from working with Nvidia

[@Deliveredmean42]

If that's the case, Portal RTX shouldn't exist. Or even Nvidia porting Portal 1 and 2 to Switch.​@@flamingscar5263

[@mhetralla]

Happy marriage!

[@thecarwasherofshangri-la]

IF Nvidia is using the project as free advertising and the contributors aren't getting paid then I'd not get involved. Straight up wage theft, period.

[@flamingscar5263]

I agree but there is an argument to be made that this would have happened anyways The thing about RTX remix is that its not well supported on non Nvidia hardware, so Nvidia would be gaining something from this project even if they didn't get the team together They should still be paid, I agree, paying them is a rounding error in Nvidias finances, but there is the counter argument that this is work that would have always been done anyways

[@mr.shplorb662]

Then again, nvidia is also advertising hl2 remix for free.

[@jacquescoetzer-au]

@@mr.shplorb662"free" as in you need to own Nvidia hardware to run this properly. Nothing in life is free. Like the commenter above said, this is wage theft, period. Nvidia are a bunch of scumbags.

[@snowballeffect7812]

@@mr.shplorb662 who cares? are they supposed to be making money off this? We live in a society where time is money and these volunteers would be able to do things faster if they didn't have to worry about getting a job that will allow them to survive.

[@ThisUsernameSystemF-ckingSucks]

​@@mr.shplorb662and? Advertising it means literally nothing.

[@5MadMovieMakers]

I wonder if these assets would ever work with HL2 VR

[@c64cosmin]

NO reason not to, the only problem with HL2 VR is that some assets are changed, like the ones you can interact with, the ladders and buttons.

[@G7ue]

The way I see it, there was already a community of people working to make higher quality assets for HL2, but now Remix is giving them a focal point for their efforts. If Nvidia didn't help set up Orbifold Studio, there would still have been a community of volunteers that grouped together to make this happen someday anyways. Its not like they are being forced to work with no pay. I'd make the guess its a passion project for them. Still though, some sort of compensation would have been really cool of Nvidia. Personally, I am extremely excited to see what comes of this. I have been dying to see some sort of HL2 remaster or remake for years. To the point I was about to start on my own remaster project just before this got announced. My only real concern is that performance will be an issue like most other RTX games and projects.

[@joebloggs8785]

First ridge wallet sponsor I've seen since Trevor Jacob lol.

[@Tholi]

Something happen?

[@Isaax]

I feel awesome about HL2 RTX, and personally I don't really care all that much if it doesn't align with Valve's original vision or art style, so long as it's beautful and runs alright. I'm excited to experience Half Life 2 in such a way

[@hobosnake1]

Right? It's not Valve putting this out and absolutely crushing the possibility of a remake (not that it's even something people want. Seems people are happy with black mesa). There's really no harm if it's not 100% exactly how Valve would want it.

[@Silverman10]

how i can play HL2 RTX ?

[@Isaax]

@@Silverman10It's not yet out

[@Silverman10]

@@Isaax when its expected to be out ?

[@RotcodFox]

It would be really nice if Valve and Nvidia actually paid these people

[@timmitytom]

there should be more games led by Valve but developed by other studios, like what they did with Turtle Rock and now to a different extent with Orbifold. the main company can still focus on pioneering technology while also putting out titles worthy of the brand name. as long as they're not acquired afterward and forced to work on Steam 'til the Sun blows up.

[@hfghhgfhfghfg]

I'm mostly excited about seeing the models being used in other games like vrchat, gmod and bonelab modding communities are going to go crazy with these extremely high detail models, also replaying half life in rtx will feel like an entirely different game, its going to be a wonderful experience.

[@hfghhgfhfghfg]

@@toyoprevyeah i have hl:a assets in gmod, this is probably going to allow for people to fully remake gmod considering that almost everymap is made with base hl2 assets, also if the rtx downloader adder thing can work it gmod we can have gmod rtx

[@roadblocksian]

@@hfghhgfhfghfgit works in gmod

[@hfghhgfhfghfg]

@@roadblocksianyes!

[@MorrrisEk]

nvidia should recompensate these people at least with stash of newest graphic cards

[@protocetid]

Jensen: "Here’s a $1 discount for a RTX 4090."

[@MorrrisEk]

@@protocetid nice one

[@BarrieBM]

No because nvidia is not telling them to do it, nobody is forcing anybody to do this. It's just dedicated fans that like to change the game. Same way how skyrim has giant dedicated mods...

[@AlfaHazard]

They already did that. They also closely help them.

[@RainbowsClone]

there was also a mirrors edge RTX that was apparently cancelled

[@greenth-mac2550]

if Valve can just increase the game memory for HL2 like they did for TF2, combining with RTX project we can have a beautiful looking HL2 experience with larger levels. It will take years for this idea to turn real but just the thought of it makes me hope to see a community project merging HL2 maps together at some point in the future.

[@rsho3472]

I know it defeats the point, but I wonder if we could disable the RTX, and just get the textures and models

[@MagnitudePerson]

You can, he literally said they'll ship the assets alongside this thing, so you can manually apply those assets to base HL2/EPs, and sourcemods too i guess Although you most likely can just disable the RTX in the options anyway, is my guess

[@Sommyie]

But why?

[@keatonwastaken]

@@Sommyie not everyone has an RTX card and even then the 20xx series are really weak cards for RTX Remix projects, they just fail to run well.

[@rsho3472]

@@Sommyie My card isn't compatible with RTX but I like the pretty models and textures

[@CattaRappa]

the new model/texture replacements are not in the same format Source uses. They use the USD format that the RTX Remix runtime utilizes. You'll have to wait for someone to convert them back into a readable format for source games

[@DragonSych]

RTX Remix is supposed to be a tool for communities to remake and breathe new life into older games. There are soooo many games which people wanted remade for years and years on end and when people actually do end up making these on newer engines they get cease and desist letters up the ***. Advertising it by having it be used the way it's intended is now a bad thing? Sure I never mind people getting compensated for their hard work but crying about people not getting paid for work they're knowingly doing without compensation simply motivated by the passion they have for games from their past I just don't understand. Nobody is getting extorted and sure Nvidia is the only one really gaining anything from it for now but I think this tool will help make that dream of remaking older games that the license holders don't care about anymore finally come true for many.

[@PalaceDude]

Yeah, I feel like a compensation would go a long way in motivating the team to go forward. Feels bad to get a this for free lol.

[@pkaulf]

I'm looking forward to trying it. I would prefer if it was an official Valve-made remaster with VR support, though.

[@Trackman71]

Well I guess we will see how the HL2 Remastered Collection looks like. I just hope it doesn’t get canned and we get it by HL2s 20th anniversary in November.

[@Ezdine_G8261]

VR is still really eh with raytracing, it's really really hard to run with it. I don't think we'll be seeing really anything with rtx in vr anytime soon.

[@misterk7_-]

5:03 Just want to say how much I love this Grigori model. It looks like they’ve taken inspiration from the Half Life Alyx style of humans.

[@Pyromaniax]

Still wondering if the Remastered Collection is still coming soon

[@Trackman71]

Maybe. Perhaps on HL2’s 20th anniversary in November.

[@ultgamercw6759]

There's clearly a lot of very tallanted people working on this new build and it could really be a game changer for mod makers if it turns out well. My only worry is that some parts of the footage I've seen looks a bit off. For example the wooden floors in Ravensholm look a bit too clean considering it's meant to be a ruined town overtaken by a zombie outbreak. I really hope that's just down to this being an early version of the rtx and they can stay true to the classic Half Life 2 artstyle.

[@AmaroqStarwind]

Since RTX Remix is dependent on Nvidia cards… they may as well throw in PhysX while they're at it.

[@jf6647]

Look at Black Mesa, it was a fan project that took many, many years to finish.. at some point valve got involved and picked it up as an actual game sponsored by them with a license being given to Crowbar Collective.. Maybe if Nvidia isn't going to do the right thing Valve will?

[@arcadefighterredbeard]

I play half life 1 all the way through at least once a year still, last couple I only do black mesa😂 they did such a great job

[@tanybrachid]

if these guys started a gofundme, they'd reach their quota in a day.

[@Scribdev]

If this is as good as I feel it is gonna be, I think Nvidia should definitely sponsor the work that the team are doing for this. It looks so high quality and well made, it could start a renaissance for the Source modding scene. I'm 100% down for that.

[@bird1476]

Congrats on the future wedding

[@Cimlite]

I don't get why anyone would essentially work for Nvidia, of all companies, for free. I think that's absolutely bizarre. It's one of the highest valued companies in the world. But its up to the people doing the work. If they want to do it pro bono for some reason, more power to them. I'll be playing it when it comes out regardless though. 🤷‍♂️

[@SHADUNGALOIN]

This will go hard with the upcoming Fakefactory Remastered mod, which keeps a vanilla friendly style, while enhancing and adding stuff

[@pliat]

Fully modelled

[@CTyler84]

No, they can't be paid by nVidia. If they do, they'll need a license from Valve as well. They can't sell the mod either, again they'd need a license from both. This is something called "a labor of love". Some people actually want to make things in their spare time that they themselves and others can enjoy. If this is a foreign concept for you, you have issues. (Obviously, it's good professional experience and looks good on a CV as well)

[@timothymckane6362]

Seeing Father Grigori's model in its new version compared to the original has really impressed me a lot.

[@elainebenes7971]

Does anybody know the background music around 6:00? Been meaning to ask for a while

[@sulphurous2656]

It's amazing how much detail those remade Half-Life 2 assets have, they look pretty much movie quality.

[@SuperWiiBros08]

This is pretty much the Metroid Prime Remastered treatment

[@KappaCow]

This needs to be out in time for half-life 2 20 year anniversary this year

[@Trackman71]

Finally something better than FakeFactory Cinematic Mod. 🤣 Hope when this comes out we will be able to play it with MMod.

[@augustIacey]

can you imagine half life two RTX VR? what a sight that would be. it's not even a new game but it would be a contender for GOTY in my book

[@Igrium]

What I'm hoping is that, after this releases, the assets could be used for non-proprietary stuff. Like, the Portal 2: Desolation branch of Source supports modern lighting techniques and PBR assets. Someone might be able to use that to make a build that doesn't depend on runtime RTX stuff.

[@Igrium]

Also, I was looking at some BTS screenshots, and it looks like they are doing at least some level design in Hammer, *not* RTX Remix.

[@sulphurous2656]

8:07 I'm pretty sure it can *only* run at the DX7 feature level, actually. That's the main limitation of this software and the type of rendering pipeline it is compatible with as far as I've heard.

[@Lethal_Spoon]

i think the lack of compensation shows the love from the devs

[@SFearox]

Half life 2 rtx is the reason why i upgraded from a gtx 1080 ti to a rtx 2080 ti. Can we play it already?

[@corporalclegg5057]

They need to revert the orange vats in kleiners lab back to the original

[@HR15DE]

i love the textures . they are insanely detailed and true to original. but a hl2 remaster thats locked to high end nvidia gpus is weird. hope there will be mod using high end textures but doesnt require rtx cards. they are not getting paid for this is pretty bad. they wont be able to give their 100%. will take a really long time to finish. they probably wont dare to do all chapters. got excited about it but i will be waiting the half life 2 update guy for remaster. but i dont know if his textures gonna be as amazing as rtx remix ones.

[@modsandendsGG-3883]

Whether or not there's some legal restrictions in what the team can say, I don't know. But there's a video where the Half-life 2: RTX team talks about how Nvidia has been involved in the project and how this is a sort of test case for what is possible with the tool Nvidia developed. Nvidia has someone dedicated to working with the team, but on the tool side. Feedback from the HL2:RTX team is then sent to the remix team to work on fixing bugs and making the tool better. I really wish it was Valve that was funding the project as well as possibly opening up communication for any questions and assets from the team (textures and models in original resolution, questions about art direction). Nvidia profits from this in terms of advertising, but this whole remix project has been funded from them from the beginning and is a huge benefit to the gaming community as a whole (gpu exclusivity aside). Valve gets their game remastered for free and gets free advertising for their game and company. Valve seems to be getting away with offering nothing but permission for a very public and publicized project. They could help their publicity by funding it.

[@MondySpartan]

It’d be a missed opportunity if we get no news for both or one of the remasters in HL2’s 20th anniversary.

[@babyherc2]

What I’m praying for is for this mod to be open source because the idea of old hl2 mods and maps with rtx assests gets me curious

[@mabepedu]

The project looks really good. People from the community doing this kind of work should be paid a gazillion dollars or at least have a confirmed job offering after this...

[@lancemarchetti8673]

Awesome. Hope that a fully functional Hammer editor will be released with it.

[@balgo4534]

that thumbnail was catalyst for my mind to imagine massive storydriven game with beautiful scenery, does anybody know games like that ???

[@noahhamilton5974]

Bioshock 1 is pretty much that

[@gabopenav]

Congrats for the upcoming wedding on June mate!

[@Andrew_Price]

everybody asking 'what' is half-life RTX but nobody asking 'when' is half-life RTX 🥲

[@Trovosity]

They could use a payment for their work, a donate page atleast. But i love this project.

[@thesensur6214]

It looks phenomenal, amazing attention to detail on this and it has everything style-wise that Portal RTX was lacking

[@R3TR0J4N]

having an access to it is like the power of sun in the palms of my hand and my palms reflects its god rays

[@marekkos3513]

If they they want me to pay 200 $ for this Half life 2 remastered version ,I would pay for sure !!! For me this is going to be Half life 3 I have always dreamed off

[@socks2441]

yeah. i am never interested in rtx remakes, but a normal remaster however, definitely interested.

[@Glowbox3D]

Man, I was about to apply, when you said it's totally volunteer based. I guess they'll be using mostly people under 25 and living in developing countries to work on this. Go get 'em youths! I have bills and live in California! :) BTW, the assets I'm seeing look great, so truth be told, age doesn't matter. But, I'll voice my personal opinion I guess, I think anybody as talented as this, able to create these level of fidelity assets, has thousands of hours in on their craft...they deserve to be paid...like at least 25/hr. Somebody needs a better producer. This is five times worse than Fiver. One last thing--Nvidia is sitting very pretty, if I had a say over there with the suits, I'd definitely propose a deck for this team and get them some funding.

[@dnjtejgpf]

I am eagerly looking foward to this project.

[@gamingadeldex]

Id happily pay for that dlc/ new release / remaster.

[@littlesnowflakepunk855]

If Nvidia is using it for advertising, which it is, the team should be compensated.

[@HeinousAnusOG]

This won’t take too long to be finished at this point

[@Flornmonk]

Most anticipated release this year for me.

[@EdJames0]

Happy wedding buddy!!!

[@AngryPenguin22]

Congrats on the wedding man.

[@sulphurous2656]

I wonder how this will compare to the Half-Life 1 Path Traced project that completed some time ago.

[@TunbosunOyenuga]

Congrats to Mister and Miss McVicker

[@LH7_Legendan]

Everything looks Stunning In this project! 💥 Seeing most npc model assets looked most of the time off, But this project with the Father Grigori Model Assets made me in total amazement It's So good 🔥

[@jamesoloughlin]

Excited for RTX Remixed versions including this. I enjoyed Portal RTX. However I agree with Gabe on the sentiment creators should be compensated for making mods like this.

[@curbysounds]

I was hoping something like this would happen

[@WeisseDrache]

I wonder if someone would lower the polycount wherever possible and have details normal-mapped but retain the lighting (but have options for amount/focus for reflections and culling)

[@SireDragonChester]

Will it be locked behind RTX only GPUs? Or Will newer amd 6800xt+ or newer be able play this ?

[@auzabraar]

Tyler, can you maybe report on the DDOS issue that is currently happening with L4D2 official servers? It has been like this since January. It happens, then gets fixed, then happens again, fixed again, happens again, infinite loop.

[@NanoNutrino]

Like Black Mesa, it should be something you buy and the devs get some kickback money for their work

[@Wooskii1]

I feel happy to see anything HL related come up, but only slightly until it's actually playable (I'm always hearing about something that doesn't pan out in the end)

[@Trackman71]

That’s common place for source mods tbh. Although mods like Raising the Bar Redux and Black Mesa have been in development for years and is still constantly worked on and today HL2 Raising the bar redux has almost 25% of HL2 remade in its original dark gritty undertone. Black Mesa is essentially complete but just missing Blue Shift and Opposing Force. Unfortunately these teams are extremely small and rely on community support to do these projects. So that’s why after many years these projects die. But I still have hope. I just don’t expect any of these projects to finalize anytime soon and expect to wait a decade.

[@Wooskii1]

@@Trackman71 Yeh buddy, that's what I was saying, half assed and sleep deprived. You put it much better/ more clearly.

[@HeavySandvichGuy1]

"I was under NDA" Meanwhile 2021 NVidia leak...

[@headcrabking9054]

I had no clue Portal RTX was actually poorly optimized. As someone who usually plays older games, I just figured that an RTX game would be chugging on anything that wasn't the strongest gaming computers available today. That information actually gives me hope that I might actually be able to possibly play HL2 RTX! As for the lack of money, I think most HL2 modders know what they're getting into, though I do have to admit that Nvidia exploiting that is pretty scummy. The devs seem dedicated, and it seems like a safe bet to say that it'll probably make it to release without any major controversy. I'm at the very least excited to see how it turns out!

[@S1nwar]

6:24 isnt this misleading??? they act like RTX makes old games have better models and textures^^

[@rockcabbage]

Sadly the rumors of a bioshock rtx remake are false. The RTX Remix runtime is currently unable to hook into bioshock by any known means. There is an official discord where most remix development can be tracked.

[@SteveAdmienn]

The HL2 RTX team needs to compensated. This stuff looks so good!

[@Maximus27064]

Just realize Tyler can make a good Trevor Phillips cosplay

[@Bumbler]

Would obviously be cool if people were being compensated, but given that the final product is gonna be free, I don't necessarily see the problem with it being run by passionate volunteers. I understand the angle of it benefiting Nvidia's marketing, but that's just kind of a byproduct of this incredible project even being possible. I can see the argument in either direction, frankly.

[@viola_case]

Tyler is getting married LET'S GOOOO

[@insane7718]

Man i really hope prohect borealis doesn't get cancelled Also rtx looks crazy

[@MrVicho13]

I would like them to be sponsored, but if they are fine without that, it's fine.

[@shrub8644]

I wish Valve made a donation to the RTX project devs if NVIDIA isn't willing to pay anything

[@locki_dos]

It's weird but the whole idea of nvidia remix is that its a mod tool so having a semi?-sponsered mod to push it by actively engaging the source community is probably the best way of going abt the project. Would be nice if contributers were compensated in someway but if they did we'd likely not know anyway.

[@walter1824]

What do you mean you don`t know how to feel about it? Look at Black Mesa Source, released as a free mod in 2012 and it`s a masterpiece...

[@stucklock7514]

Counterstrike source rtx would go crazy

[@raduavram]

I feel like Nvidia being the behemoth that it is, and the amount of marketing budget it has, paying the developers once the game has shipped for the amount of hours they spent remaking the assets at least should be mandatory, let alone rearranging said assets in the original levels and making sure it keeps the atmosphere of the original game. I wouldnt be surprized they would scoff it off saying they put a lot of resources making the rtx remix software and offering support to the modders when needed, but if nvidia is actively marketing the mod with RTX, a well known brand Identity marker of theirs, like DLSS, GTX(rip) etc. They should at least make a donation for their next project. Either way these modders are extremely talented and if they really needed money i'm sure they could easily land a job at a studio, like the one mick gordon recently helped announce :)

[@Cinnabuns2009]

Can a current HL2 VR Mod save be brought over to the RTX version to your knowledge? Or can the base HL2 VR Mod be upgraded to RTX via replacing files

[@EspireMike]

I reckon there'd be a market for these RTX remasters. Nvidia + the original rights holder (IE Valve) should fund these projects and share the profits with the community teams that make and maintain them.

[@AGFuzzyPancake]

I remember you saying some time ago that you would only report on mod projects that are playable, and i thought that was a great rule for you. RTX HL2 is something I would pay money to play today in a completed state. What we've seen is all top notch remaster work, but this seems like a project that will never finish, or that will finish years after it's relevant. I've seen this happen too many times to not see it coming by now. In my view, this should have been a lighting-only project (just ray-traced global illumination & shadows without texture an model reworks). Remaking all the original assets at the levels of quality presented is way too much work to be sustainable for unpaid artists.

[@Infarlock]

Half Life 2 VR RTX

[@pcgamingftw5694]

I'm surprised how almost nobody in the comments here is thinking about the repercussions this project and other business practices Nvidia is pulling will have on the industry. Nobody here seems to even be using an AMD GPU, let alone consider how those users are kept out of the experience. This really shows the monopoly they have on the market and it scares me. They have around 80-90% market share for desktop GPUs and they dominate AMD and Intel so much their products have become the ideological norm, people expect Nvidia as the standard, heck even the only GPUs whatsoever! Everybody is complaining about GPU prices but did you ever consider Nvidia doing things like this is a giant factor? AMD aren't saints and they sure as hell need to invest more into their projects, but the thing is, how will they ever make enough money to invest more in order to compete if what I said above gets even worse?

[@EmoQueenX333]

They could have easily focused on RT in the 7000 series rather than use it as a test-drive for their new manufacturing process. The simple reality is that AMD does not care, they set the prices just a bit below Nvidia to keep the illusion of competitions while both CEO's are actually related. It's a clown-show.

[@graithen8955]

If nVidia is earning money/sales they should slip these guys some cash. However, these guys are keeping the modding spirit alive in an age where people are out to make quick cash instead of passion projects. And for that they have my undying respect 😊