Fixing Common Scene Mistakes

[@TylerMowery]

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[@bethanybrimhall7785]

With each specific problem I find in my writing, he provides an answer in his next video - Tyler is seriously telepathic and knows what every writer and audience member needs and wants to see in a good story.

[@RodneyKimbangu]

Tyler, someday, our roads will meet outside of KZbin. You are a legend.

[@jasper2572]

The Jabba the Hutt scene in a New Hope was originally deleted. The only reason it's in the special edition is to go oh look Jabba the Hutt not to move the story forward

[@thedarksiderebel]

A rule the star wars brand has been following ever since

[@jasper2572]

@@thedarksiderebel except the last Jedi.

[@sergioa.tortora6534]

I think he was just using it as an example and the example works whether the scene is deleted or not.

[@jasper2572]

@@sergioa.tortora6534 you’re totally right I just thought It added to his point

[@sergioa.tortora6534]

@@jasper2572 Great! Have a nice day!

[@cjkalandek996]

I agree with you on that Jabba scene from _A New Hope._ My problem with it isn't the bad CG Jabba. It's that it's literally the exact same conversation Han had Greedo earlier.

[@crispy_productions]

Even down to some of the same lines it's almost the exact same. I never realized how unecessary that Jabba scene was from the New Hope Special Edition until after watching this video.

[@aymen2949]

If you don't give breath and life to your scene, your characters and your story, then it become so mechanical, with all my respect, the advices you give, are so mechanical, rigide, but storytelling is freedom, look at the great masterpieces, there's always plenty moments of breathe and life, it's a question of dynamics and pace, not only tension resolution...

[@samir1481]

I couldn’t tell it better.

[@formulaic78]

But if you wanna succeed in Hollywood as a nobody you better follow his advice!

[@alvinfigueroa3144]

I don't think Tyler likes the Justice League movie. lol

[@sdprz7893]

What gave you that idea?

[@THEWHITEKNIGHT]

He Will love Snyder cut

[@Antwannnn]

@THE WHITE KNIGHT pepelaugh

[@justinwallace269]

With good reason

[@theawesomebat1244]

He doesn’t like DC in general 😅 (excluding ‘The Dark Knight’ & ‘The Lego Batman Movie’).

[@matthewentwistle8284]

I’d like to give you a book recommendation. It’s called The Science of Storytelling by Will Storr. It has some interesting insights on how stories work and what purpose they serve in society.

[@AnnoyingMoose]

The scene with Han talking with Jabba was actually one of the few changes to the original Star Wars that was an improvement. Since when it was originally shot Jabba was just another human there are 2 moments that showcase Han's personality wonderfully. When Harrison Ford walked around Jabba there was no need to step over his non-existent tail at the time so as Han he has no reaction whatsoever to Jabba's obvious distress at being stepped on which comes across as being rather aloof. At the end of the scene when Han says "Jabba, you're a wonderful human being." it seems to be dripping in sarcasm since Jabba clearly looks more like a slug. We got hints at these characteristics when he was talking to fellow humans Luke and Ben but they were strangers that he was trying to impress while Jabba was well known to him so Han was just being himself: a rogue that oozes with a preposterous amount of confidence.

[@ireenopilo8685]

Everytime I watch a Tyler video I tear up my script and start a new So I'm just gonna wait unit he makes every video on screenplay

[@TomEyeTheSFMguy]

Well, tearing up your script isn't helpful to your progress as a writer. You should finish your screenplays so that you learn from them. That's advice from Tyler himself.

[@hamdan1632]

Great video, Tyler! Please make a video about How to Write Logline and Synopsis.

[@nasrulxd]

this channel is extremely underrated

[@h.ar.2937]

Hey Tyler one advice that Brian Brushwood got from Penn (Penn & Teller) is that if you want to be something different you have to think of something that you hate and be the exact opposite of that. Because if you try to be like the people that inspire you, in a way, you’ll be just a half assed copy of that person that inspires you. For some reason I can’t shake this off my mind and although Brian was referring to magic tricks I couldn’t help but assume the same applies to storytelling!

[@DanielEarl]

In the original 1977 theatrical release, that Jabba scene was cut precisely because it served no purpose.

[@jasonjanisewski78]

He is right in general but there are exceptions. For example, the awards ceremony at the end of Star Wars doesn't advance the story but is still a nice scene of resolution. Likewise, a small scene that doesn't advance the story but serves to make the audience identify with/care for the character can also be important.

[@nrsinghatirthadasa391]

Makes sense

[@alvinfigueroa3144]

Wow. This video makes me feel like you are watching a CCTV feed from my room. I feel very seen right now. lol

[@deadlylaughterproductions]

You feel very scene.........see what I did there.......I know I’m cringe 😂

[@alvinfigueroa3144]

@@deadlylaughterproductions Yeah, listen... I was actually making that joke. But I chose to not make it super obvious. I am glad you could catch it even though you didn't think I was making the joke. So maybe I subliminally planted it in your head. IDK. It's not cringy at all.

[@ArabellaKFederico]

This is great, I prefer it to the simple scene card. I think it's valid on its face but with this added on as context it really gives you a full perspective to write your scenes or even how to simply plot.

[@benjaminread5287]

Can we please have a video on how to write a strong middle section (2nd act) and how to keep yourself invested in your story during that tedious part where everything seems to fall apart?

[@sergioa.tortora6534]

He has a few I believe, check out his videos on how to use a midpoint. I've been watching a lot of these videos and I particularly found those ones helpful in strengthening my second act.

[@benjaminread5287]

@@sergioa.tortora6534 I'm pretty sure I have watched every single one of his videos, but I'll have another look. Thanks

[@sergioa.tortora6534]

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[@guilofilmes]

You are so amazing, smart and helper. I love your videos, the edition are awesome too! ♥

[@marcusholder6508]

I'm pretty sure the original Star Wars (1977) didn't have the Jabba scene and was added in the special editions.

[@theawesomebat1244]

Unfortunately, the original cut of ‘Star Wars’ (1977) doesn’t exist anymore.

[@cnfilmsss]

Amazing stuff Tyler! Golden information.

[@MarianRanalberto]

First! Tyler really great channel, thanks for the content

[@mihirmishra4481]

The video was uploaded 14mins ago, you commented 13mins ago. BRUH WATCH THE VIDEO AT LEAST

[@absw6129]

Tyler's idea of having philosophy at the core of a story is also a good way to weed out the unnecessary scenes. This where I think there's a problem in how the three act structure is often taught. The second act often becomes just a series on unconnected obstacles on the way to the climax, where the story is finally picked up again. Instead, it's useful to think of the second act as "different ways of thinking being tested". The third act then becomes the final test which will decide everything. In the third act, there are no new arguments to be made. Simple example: if the story is about running away from evil and being seen as a coward vs confronting evil but possibly dying, the third act would be the point at which the main character only has one route of escape left, but in order to use it they have to leave their family behind. If they decide to stay, the main character will die, but the family will live and remember them as a hero. Just felt like giving my two cents here.

[@knucklescapricorn31]

The savagery towards Justice League, I love it. Also, yet another great video with great advice and content. Thank you!

[@Alvaro-qz6qk]

Just discovered your channel. You are great Tyler!

[@gothochblandat8031]

requesting more videos on how to write horror scripts, examples, errors and such!

[@jacksonhayes3826]

Yet another reason why that jabba scene sucks

[@albertmailyan9680]

Awesome Tyler, you are the best.

[@emiliomanueldepedro9650]

You could make a video talking about how to create a good villain/antagonist.

[@LaCuevadeAle]

Awesome explanation! Thanks!!!

[@jamessimborio]

1. The scene does not turn the story *You must do: 1. Show characters talking serious action towards what they want 2. Show characters receiving information that changed their situation 3. Shows events or other character action dramatically changing their situation *Ask this question to know if the scene works: 1. Does your scene show a character taking an action that moves the story forward? 2. Does your scene have a character learning new information that changes their situation? 3. How is the world of your story different after this scene? 2. Scenes go in for way too long "Get in late, go out early" *To fix scenes ask this question: 1. What is the purpose of this scene? 2. Does my scene end right after the story is turned, or does it keep going? 3. Bad Scene Context 1.Does this scene affect the actions and goals of main character? 2. Is this scene important for philosophical and external conflicts of my story? 3. Do the actions pf the side characters actually affect the main philosophical conflict of my story? 4. Exposition Dump - Don't repeat information when the viewers and characters knows it

[@gleerious]

What about "fun and games" scenes that connects two characters?

[@erik-sr9bj]

Have them overcome some kind of obstacles during those scenes. Or have them wasting time with these things come back and bite them later on. Example: Diary Of A Wimpy Kid Dog Days. You have a montage of Greg and Rowley at the boardwalk, playing all different kind of arcade games etc. Why this works, is because they get in trouble immediately right after, because they forget time and Rowley’s parents are mad and punish them, which then leads to a conflict between the two boys when they get back to the cabin.

[@anthonycorcino6700]

Fun and games was disgusting so bad

[@erik-sr9bj]

@@anthonycorcino6700 what

[@syedarizvi7290]

I think it could simply serve the purpose of connecting those two characters for solidarity for friendship or romance. Which is part of the story

[@shivamnanchahal4035]

Hey! I have a question.... When do skip to the another project? When the older one is isn't working?

[@facundogallo4539]

Thank you so much. This is a great video

[@DarthBiomech]

But how can _every_ scene possibly have revelations that recontextualize the story or force character to life-changing decisions? That's just impossible! I certainly dont remeber any movie where Something Very Important™ happens every minute or so. Even the masterpieces have quite a lot of breathe room during which nothing dramatic or sudden happens.

[@nrsinghatirthadasa391]

Good point

[@thedarksiderebel]

Back To The Future and Jurassic Park are excellent examples of scripts with no filler

[@DarthBiomech]

@@thedarksiderebel I'm pretty sure I can remember there being calm scenes where nothing important happens.

[@thedarksiderebel]

@@DarthBiomech every scene and almost every line of dialogue in Back to the Future has purpose, foreshadows something, or is a setup for something else.

[@braigbrothers]

I think that's a problem of Tyler's writing style. His other video about the last jedi brings this same issue in place.

[@bryx99]

Who's your inspiration tyler ?

[@sergioa.tortora6534]

Guessing from his videos, I'd wager Quentin Tarantino and Denis Villeneuve.

[@TheDorkKnight23]

Can you do a screen writing comparison video of How Zack Snyder's Justice League changed to Josstice League.

[@AlejandroSanchez-zb4bk]

Is there ever going to be series shows oriented? Pilot writing especifically, I would love to hear your take on it

[@Диана-я5э1к]

great vid!!!

[@davidiswaluigi5982]

What about Pulp Fiction? The “Royale with cheese” scene doesn’t seem to do any of these things but it’s still so good.

[@amanokaran23]

I read the title as "Fix Common Sense Mistakes" 😂👀

[@sdprz7893]

This kids like 20 and yet understands story better than most 40 year olds

[@Moon-gt1eq]

Can you fix the whole Justice League Movie

[@jmorgan3977]

Snyder is working on that right now haha!

[@Moon-gt1eq]

@@jmorgan3977 tbh anything is better than what we got in theater.

[@anthonycorcino6700]

Synder is one of best unique filmmakers in Hollywood today.

[@spencernielsen392]

Always here for the Justice League jabs!

[@capitanstoodeows8123]

“Scenes can't go on for too long” *laughs in Quentin Tarantino*

[@evie._.lake20]

02:15 wb Quentin Tarantino? Scenes in Inglourious Basterds which are way too long

[@giovannibertoia8027]

What are some good jobs for aspiring screenwriters?

[@thedarksiderebel]

Writing

[@juniorm641]

Screenwriting... And teaching screenwriting maybe...

[@heyyou1911]

I liked the lasso of truth scene ok 😭

[@plossken4971]

Sweet vid

[@gymboostindia]

was i the only one hearing tyler breath in almost every shot

[@samir1481]

I think The exemple of Aquaman you chose is not the right one. Following the rules is good but sometimes it lead you to be so concentrated on what you should do and shouldn’t than you lose a writer’s vision. Personally I laughed so hard with this extended scene, Aquaman sitting on the rope. And at the end of the day it’s the purpose, moving your audience with the plot as you say but emotionally too.

[@haljordan1575]

You're right it's a long joke but i think it's worth it coz you pick up information about inner insecurities of a superhero without making Aquaman look weak, what do you think?

[@abelmatw]

Watch the Snyder Cut

[@ArfurFaulkesHake]

@Tyller Mowery: I recently saw Fan-Project which struck me as overwhelmingly good. I'd like to know your thoughts about the cinematography and writing, since you have a more in depth understanding of the matter then i do. This is the porject: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoe7doyhqNR4bMU This is an analysis from a Lore/Fandom point of view: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3qUkoKsgMRsqJo and a shorter Lore analysis: if you are unfamiliar with Warhammer 40000

[@JiveDadson]

Was the scene in Fargo in which the Asian guy hit on Marge a bad scene? How about the scene where Showalter took a call-girl to a club where Jose Feliciano was playing? Neither advanced the story.

[@jackw.entertainment2684]

Are you excited for the Snyder Cut, Tyler?

[@devinsamuel3]

I thought the Jabba scene was added to the special edition more to connect the overall story arc of Han Solo, since we already know what happens to him in ESB. Him, continuously, running from his debt came and bit him in the ass. But I probably just reach too far in the universe for that connection. That being said, I can see why it was taken out from the original film for redundancy.

[@wiseauserious8750]

Tyler you and Abbie Emmons need to mate and create a brood of superwriters

[@fortheloveofcinema]

And people say Joss Whedon is a great writer? I like Avengers and Age of Ultron is a guilty pleasure but I knew he had limits. Outside of just being tonally strange, Whedon just isn't a fantastic writer.

[@BobbyJ529]

we don't know how much Joss Whedon changed in the writing.

[@fortheloveofcinema]

@@BobbyJ529 Snyder has actually gone on record saying that only about 25 minutes of the theatrical cut was his and Ray Fisher (Cyborg) has confirmed that EVERY scene of him outside of the GCPD rooftop scene was done by Joss Whedon. Most of the scenes in the film don't even carry Zack's style. Justice League was Joss Whedon's film.

[@juniorm641]

Cabin In The Woods was good though

[@thereccher8746]

The Avengers was already set to be a great movie. We wanted to see the heroes team up and we got it. All the work was done for him by the other MCU films, and the only heavy lifting he had to do was make it coherent and give a few funny one liners. Once the novelty wore off and he had to write a good story by Age of Ultron, he failed the test, hard.

[@benedekchen5890]

Maybe next time give us some examples for comparison?

[@leonardleano1015]

Yes

[@999-g4u]

Ur missing one important thing about filmmaking, where to find a cast and crew , how to get actors, finances for a film or short film.

[@agentzsro6522]

Hi, Could you make a video explaining how to write a sequence like Better Call Saul Something Stupid montage?

[@thewhitewolf58]

What about scenes for character development you seem like your trying to write a thriller or horror movie

[@jessegoonerage3999]

These scenes should still reveal new information or force the character to act. You cannot build suspense without revealing new information. Character is not revealed in quiet moments, but the choices a character makes. It's better to develop character through having them make different choices throughout the film.

[@malcolmnygard7056]

Counterpoint: Mike Yanagina

[@coloraddiction]

Where would we be without all these dcu movies to show us how not to make film? 🤣😅

[@MovieBits6]

snyder cut.....? dunno why just put that out there for no god damn reason

[@Kourshtyu]

In your own script you didnt follow this sooo im a big fan but what if i dont have a villian and its just a calm movie.....

[@Kourshtyu]

But its important so the scences can move the story forword thanks for the vid

[@pinakichakraborty8759]

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[@boomborks8409]

Joss Whedon's Justice League scenes are awful

[@thedarksiderebel]

Any excuse to rag on Justice League. I haven't seen it, but unless you are editing like David Fincher, i don't see anything wrong with letting a scene breathe or have some comedy to punctuate it. Worked well for Guardians of the Galaxy. A well-written script that has lots of just joke moments. Also, you're complaining that scenes dont have any purpose, but also that a scene has back story. Like, which is it? Lord of the Rings begins with a 10 minute exposition dump of stuff that is learned throughout the film. I feel like you are encouraging such rigidity in your videos by trying to remove the things that contribute towards tone, pacing and foreshadowing. Learning information in an early scene might not change the course the character is on, but maybe that info will come into play later. Just seems a little too black and white for me

[@JuanMartinez-tx5bh]

josstice league

[@antonarap]

The states scene introduces Jaba as a giant slob. Of course it's not redundant

[@wormbag80]

Im so stupid to understand a thing you just said