This Is Why Stock Ableton Plugins Are BETTER!

After years of getting more and more plugins I finally figured out those two things:
1. Truly unique plugins are RARE. New plugins are to solve yet another "major problem", but the truth is that there's already a tool that takes care of that.
2. ...thats why if you just want to get things done and have fun with producing - USE STOCK PLUGINS. Sure, they won't replace that "analog character" but just like with third party plugins - stock Ableton devices are getting better and better
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[@cara76]

As a logic user, I'm jealous of the enveloppe follower plugin. But I like the general philosophy and that I can apply it to my DAW. Nice video, as usual. Love the smooth ending and everything before :D. Cheers.

[@Zdrewe]

Glad to have Logic user here, expected some FL guys coming for me 😂. Got my own short episode with it and it’s a great DAW. Did a quick search after your comment and I’m not sure if there’s really a free alternative of envelope follower in AU or even VST form. Pinning this comment so someone can correct me if I’m wrong

[@tumpperi3891]

Atleast in studio one you can "sidechain" to almost any stock plugin. For example you could sidechain kick to EQ and modulate a certain frequency band. Maybe logic can do something similar?

[@SeedtoStage]

Thanks for the vid, love that Collision Sub Boom! And I agree 100% that native ableton stock plugins are all you need. But I gotta say, as much as I LOVE Roar, it's def not a replacement for Saturn. You can have up to 6 bands that all react with modulation control over insane amounts of oversampling. Roar can be used in mixing but its not nearly as flexible as a multiband saturator solution. Roar instead excels at being a really fun new tool for modulating saturation. If I had one with for it, it would be to have more than 2 stages in serial mode. Want that 3rd stage in there!

[@Zdrewe]

First of all, glad you like the video 🙏 judging by some comments I should’ve compared Roar to Izotope Trash but honestly I never been a big fan of it 😅. And yes you’re right, it’s definitely not a replacement, I assumed that some don’t have Saturn in their arsenal so Roar is a great introduction to plan and nail the multiband, parallel or serial distortion. As much as I’m proud and confident of what I said in this video, deep in my heart I can’t get rid of some of my fav plugins (Saturn included). But shhh don’t tell anyone 😉

[@kenroy916]

Seedtostage in the house!! 🎉

[@danielkostov9489]

@@Zdrewei would say Roar is more in the Minimal Audio Rift area

[@GabrielBufardeci]

I've been doing a lot of research looking at "must-have" plugins, and I'm really happy I found your video. You saved me a lot of money that I don't have lol

[@alkisliv]

You're onto something, keep going! This stuff is pure gold. Subbed.

[@Zdrewe]

Means a world 🙏🙏

[@yaboi9349]

shaperbox, soothe2, pigments, Pro-L2, Clear, Ozone, and Melodyne is all I need

[@PabloRodriguezwhyCharlieWhy]

Man finally with a lot of sense of making it worthwhile to work with Ableton devices.... I would mind you giving us more of these tips and not waste time to see what is better out there!!... like many producers on KZbin, only do pitch selling!!

[@Zdrewe]

First of all, thank you for watching and I’m glad you like the video! 🙏 with all honesty, I’m not planning a crusade against plugins since I use them daily and can’t live without some of them. After posting on IG and being lucky enough to work with some audio brands I decided to dedicate this KZbin channel to my pure honesty about music production, plugins and gear. I can’t say that there’s not gonna be a video about some paid plugins or gear on here but I’ll do my best to focus more on right decisions and tips rather than pitch selling everything that’s being released 😉

[@user-sw7yx6vk9j]

Amazing video as always! A lot of useful knowledge with a nice subtle sense of humour and great montage. Glad to hear more on ableton stock plugins, I feel like they get too little overall attention. I wish for a video on stock instruments! It would be awesome. There is so much to be said there, yet most tutorials don't go beyond samplers, analog, operator and wavetable :D

[@Zdrewe]

Glad you like the video (and my sense of humor 😂). Totally agree, stock plugins deserve more attention, only a few people actually utilize them for something unbelievable - just look at Virtual Riot. I’ll definitely do my take on stock synths, particularly Meld since it reminds me of MicroFreak

[@TheJalba66]

I've just been messing around with meld and roar together, didn't know what I was doing but I was making some awesome noise! 😂

[@MunitorLP]

Great input as always! I can't wait for "roar", it looks really promising and seems quite intuitive compared to saturn, which I found a bit crowded and confusing first. I love the youtube videos as you can explain everything in much more detail! Also the editing is on point, the bathroom scene really made my day 😂Keep up the good work!

[@Zdrewe]

Agree, Saturn seems a bit crowded but wait until you get your hands on mod matrix in Roar. It can also get quite detailed, geeky aaaand… crowded. I barely scratched the surface in this vid. For the bathroom part - well my assumptions were based on my own experience 😂 Thanks a lot for your support 🙏

[@JamesMichaelTaylor]

This was awesome dude. One of the only production tutorials to ever make me laugh out loud.

[@Zdrewe]

Glad to hear that man! Just trying to put some fun into topics that majority of people get too serious about

[@alexanderskjold9511]

yeah dude, you channel is great! I've been producing for yeeeaaaars and you showed me stuff I didn't know :) thanks man! new follower!

[@Zdrewe]

Really, really appreciate that! And well, what I can say - that’s the beauty of Ableton (and any DAW tbh). Once you find some time to dive into details, you always discover something new 😉

[@aceshigh025]

Great video. Just important to note that Rbass isn’t a sub generator. It creates harmonics above the fundamental. LoAir creates sub information out of higher fundamentals.

[@soundsbysev]

Your videos are so helpful! Thanks man

[@Zdrewe]

Most welcome my friend 🙏

[@Randuski]

couple things about ableton clipping. the glue compressors soft clip is closer to a digital clip, but instead of having sharp corners on the transfer curve, it has the tiniest round edges. saturators soft clip is a true rounded soft clip. but if you set it to digital clip, don’t turn on soft clip, and oversampling is turned off, it’s a true digital clipper, with less saturation. basically, you don’t have to turn on soft clip for it to actually clip the signal. if oversampling is turned off, it will clip the signal. enabling soft clip just adds more harmonics to that clip. the way saturators work is through clipping. clipping and saturation work the same way, just depends on what transfer curve you’re using

[@Zdrewe]

Dude, thanks for your insight on this. And i wanted to get geeky about mod matrix in Roar… 😅

[@Randuski]

@@Zdrewe 🤣 oh i can get reaaaal geeky. i know all the nerdy terms haha

[@Schallkoma_Rockenberg]

super cool video. thx for sharing your knowlege 🙂

[@jacksp8de]

Great editing! Subbed.

[@Zdrewe]

Thanks a ton 🙏🙏

[@Ivan-Zile]

Grate video Zdrewe, first when i started i got as many plugins as i could get but nowdays i use mostly ableton live stock plugins.

[@Zdrewe]

Same! Not that I don’t like the plugins I have but majority of times stock ones are more than enough

[@minaondrums]

New to Live, and to production, and poor. So excited by your channel @Zdrewe ✨🙏🏻

[@Zdrewe]

Thanks a lot 🙏 the beginning of a journey is probably the most fun experience ever! I have another video on stock solutions next week 😉

[@Platinum_XYZ]

wow! I just found your channel and your editing is really funny and paced excellently. tips are great too! loved the bit that poked fun at folks who obsess over specific compressors when they should just be making music! also I totally agree about OTT! why are people using the third party OTT instead of just OTT?? lol very underrated I'm glad I found this video

[@Zdrewe]

Means a world 🙏🙏 and well to the compressors part - that’s exactly what I’ve meant. It’s not that you can’t be obsessed with different characters but at least know how to compress 😂

[@Platinum_XYZ]

@@Zdreweyeah for sure! I find those tiny details in things like subtle compressor characteristics and all that rarely can be heard in a meaningful way in a full mix (although it depends on the style)

[@dxt3r_lab]

Man great video. many people spend a lot on plugins when they already have the tool. inspired me to do one video about this in Logic 😃

[@Zdrewe]

Thanks a lot bro! Some third party plugins are just simply a cleverly skinned stock devices honestly

[@srgzbltch2249]

Good topic and nice sense of humor.

[@Zdrewe]

Glad to hear that 🙏🙏

[@romain2869]

Great content ! thank you !

[@Zdrewe]

You’re welcome and thanks for watching 🙏

[@NoArtist88]

Roar is insane!!! very good video but i never leave my pro-q3 xD keep it up bro!

[@Zdrewe]

It’s literally a hybrid of Rift and Saturn but stock an easy to use. Pro Q3 built itself to become a go-to for literally everyone so I take that 😂

[@NoArtist88]

i like easy to use stuff! my man pro-q3 is THE GO TO xD @@Zdrewe

[@InnerMotionMusic]

Excellent advice. After about a year of using Live Suite, I realized I wasted hundreds of dollars on plug-ins I didn't need. There's still a bunch of 3rd party software that I love using, but I find myself using Ableton's stock plug-ins more and more. I wish I could return most of what I bought in the beginning and buy some hardware... Great video!

[@Zdrewe]

Feeling exactly the same!! I gathered a lot of plugins through the years, managed to narrow down to only 150 which are currently in my library but honestly I use mainly my 3rd party synths and instrument libraries. Most of effects are easy to replace with stock devices unless you’re really looking for that analog (emulated) flavor

[@3bnuri]

amazing content thank you for that

[@Zdrewe]

Thanks for watching my friend 🙏

[@Tonepusher]

Excellent video, love the editing. And you're so right lol I had a shitload of plugins in the past. And now that I do it professionally, I basically use Cubase stock plugins 95% of the time.

[@Zdrewe]

Thanks for that 🙏 I’ve been using Cubase for mixing sessions circa about 2013 and I remember it had some cool stock devices. Guess that things got only better. and I still have shitload of plugins 😂

[@Zdrewe]

Btw, just subscribed to your channel, gonna binge watch some of those videos tomorrow but I really like what I saw so far 😎

[@Tonepusher]

@@Zdrewe thanks man! yeah ''just started'' that youtube journey hehe Still learning the algorithm game lol Trying to find my style also! Yeah Cubase really has good plugins now, wasn't always the case lol. I mean, with the price they charge to buy it they better have good plugins lol

[@chrisb6296]

Very good stuff

[@pantov]

coool, learned a thing or two just yet, noice!

[@Zdrewe]

Glad to hear that! 🙏

[@halfbaddnb]

This man droping dem 💎 like no one else 🥷🔥🔥👽

[@Zdrewe]

Glad you like it man 🙏🙏

[@OhhBrutalC]

"Used by everyone...., and their mother" got me subscribing to your channel. Mixing good knowledge with incredible humor, well done!

[@Zdrewe]

Glad to hear that there are still people who also want to laugh a bit. Everyone seems to be sooooo f serious these days 🤷‍♂️😅

[@remyvegamedia]

I'm all about it. I'm sure if I had already spent the money on the 3rd party stuff I'd keep using it, but since I haven't I'm more than happy to master the Ableton stuff. Great tips here.

[@Zdrewe]

Yeah, it’s not about stopping people from getting 3rd party plugins - it’s about picking them carefully while having stock devices in mind (majority of times they’re more than enough)

[@thaz1998]

I swear the first time I tried out Roar on an Offbeat Bassline I was blown away by its capabilities. It might also be a decent alternative to Izotope Trash 2 finally.

[@Zdrewe]

With the modulation capabilities it reminds me of Minimal Audio Rift. You're right - the possibilities are endless

[@produccionmusical946]

Im addicted to your videos 😂

[@Zdrewe]

I usually feel sorry for people with addictions but in this case, I’m not 😅 means a world 🙏

[@alessiotasco1289]

This video has been like someone slapping me to tears for my producing and mixing lazyness

[@vin3421]

No way ableton reverb sounds as good as Valhalla…

[@Zdrewe]

Valhalla is overrated but I’m not saying it’s bad. With a proper choice of IRs you can get really competitive results.

[@WforWrath]

Ya I’m not deleting soothe bro

[@khkx450]

The convolution reverb sounds incredible but I've only been able to get it to work with instruments and have never been able to fit a vocal inside... Can't find any info on exactly how to use it.

[@Michael-xr5yx]

@@Zdrewe Overrated how? Vintage and Plate are the best sounding algo reverbs I've ever heard and I've heard a lot of them.

[@Drinkyoghurt]

True, but they're good enough + you can have the free valhalla space reverb for everything else.

[@noharahien]

The soft clipper in glue compressor and saturator does absolutely the same thing. In saturator's case it's just another succesive curve the signal is gonna be driven through. Theoretically by switching the saturator curve to digital clipping and enable soft clip you'll get the exact same result as using glue compressor. Saturator just gives you more choices in terms of clipping, including an analog one, a digital one and another successive soft clipper if you want.

[@Zdrewe]

Agreed, i actually forgot to mention about different modes in Saturation. Thanks for your insight 🙏

[@felixschmidt794]

Man just found your Channel yesterday, holy fuck dude! Thanks for the knoledge!♥ lovley gunfingers and bassfaces from germany

[@Zdrewe]

Means a world Felix 🙏🙏 ps… don’t mention gunfingers - there might be a wild deadmau5 watching and judging those “silly hand moves” 😂😂

[@solarparade]

RBass does not add subharmonics like the "Sub Boom" preset does. It adds higher harmonics that trick your brain into thinking there is a fundamental sub frequency that does not exist. These are fine tips, it's just misleading to say you can replicate RBass in stock Ableton (or at least if you can, it's not like this)

[@neonvoid]

Great video

[@Zdrewe]

Thanks a lot 🙏

[@TKAM88]

Makes sense, 3:26 this compressor looks quite like the SSL G-Compressor.

[@Zdrewe]

Yup, it’s also made in collaboration with Cytomics - the creators of The Glue

[@Screaming-Trees]

I agree. You can, and probably should, just use stock Ableton plugins. It would make for a more streamlined workflow and all of them pretty much are really high quality anyway. I don't really agree about the reverb but saying that I should note I never really found a software reverb that I really liked so this is a demerit point against both stock and third party reverbs in software. I wouldn't use either.

[@Zdrewe]

Hahah now I’m glad I said that’s my own opinion about HR. In fact, I feel the same way about third party reverbs. Majority comes down to shaping the tone after either with built in EQ or the one of you choice. That’s why I love HR and convolution reverb in Live since those allow you to turn anything into IR and get results fitted to your needs. If we speak about third party ones - Verbsuite Classic from Slate fits my needs from time to time

[@Zdrewe]

Hahah now I’m glad I said that’s my own opinion about HR. In fact, I feel the same way about third party reverbs. Majority comes down to shaping the tone after either with built in EQ or the one of you choice. That’s why I love HR and convolution reverb in Live since those allow you to turn anything into IR and get results fitted to your needs. If we speak about third party ones - Verbsuite Classic from Slate fits my needs from time to time

[@Paul-gp5om]

Awesome vid brah, but I do have a question. My envelope follower seems to be missing the 'remote / modulation' section/s. Along the top of the device mine just has the mapping box and the percentage values that I can only set between 0& and 100%! What's up with that? I am on Ableton 11.. is that why?

[@Zdrewe]

Thanks a lot and yes, exactly. Modulation was introduced in 12. For this particular trick you don’t need it (that’s why I’m switching to remote).

[@martingifford5415]

I wish Ableton had a nice reverb for mixing, not mangling.

[@gbigbo_zjebeezjeboo]

Great tips. Question. I don't have the MOD/REMOTE button on the envelope follower ? I'm using Ableton Live 11 Suite. Any idea ?

[@Zdrewe]

They added those in 12 since now you can modulate the automation. As I showed in the video, it’s not a necessary thing to have for this technique so you should be good to go classic Live 11 env follower 😉

[@WompRok]

Ahhhh I was trying to figure out something to make eq8 dynamic and ended up buying kirchhoff eq....at least it was on sale and still super good

[@Zdrewe]

Kirchhoff is super versatile plus I like the fact that it can mimic the eq curves of analog EQs! Speaking of EQ8 - making it dynamic for tasks like blending kick and bass is easy but to make it more precise you need to make a copy of a track you want to follow the envelope with, then isolate/band pass the specific frequency and finally use env follower to trigger it with only this specific freq range. Long story short, a lot of work to do 😂

[@happniin5287]

PML has a free rack for cutting frequencies called “Space Maker”

[@TehSyneS]

I still use the legacy chorus.

[@Indi3R]

bar from a few exceptions I work out of the box unless I am recording outboard gear The plugins I do use are things like Serum, Valhalla and some of the NI ecosystem I purchased a decade ago. There is a whole lot of sausage phat out there

[@Zdrewe]

Staying with what you have or narrowing down to what you really need gets us far more creative and to the point. Obviously there are some cool new things to try but using the things I’ve mentioned earlier plus a range of stock devices is a great crap-filter

[@mrr5835]

I'm fully aware Soothe2 is just lazy EQ but i love it to death because it helps me be lazy! 😝 With that said i try to use mostly stock plugins so great video!

[@Zdrewe]

Nothing bad about being lazy, but it’s all about having fun! Btw, the “Grammy” preset from soothe does wonders 😉😅

[@fa8ster]

make more vidz like this! and i wanna see some push 3

[@Zdrewe]

Thanks for watching and no worries, next video on my favorite (non generic) Live tips is coming this week. I can’t work in Live without Push 3 anymore but I need to find a cool way to show some tips for it 😉

[@valhallaatmedawg6446]

The only thing I really hate about Ableton's plug-ins is that I can't keep them floating on the screen while I zip around track to track. Other than that they're sick. My favourite one is tha compressor called, "Flattener."

[@Zdrewe]

You too?? 😂 I mean for the workflow is kinda convenient to have plugins at the bottom of the screen but once you want to make a screen recording (like myself) you end up cutting the footage, cropping or zooming in like crazy 😂

[@vivektyagi6848]

Would the last bit replace the Shaper Toolbox too ? 🎉

[@JuhoSprite]

Im mainly using external plugins because I use ableton intro and most of these arent available for me

[@ranradd]

Looks like some nice upgrades for sure. Live 12 is out today, $229 for my upgrade from Live 11 Suite. Yea. Hmm. Wait for a sale?

[@Zdrewe]

It was slightly cheaper with a preorder. There’s gonna be a lot of hype for new features for sure but if you have no issues with writing melodies then I’ll just wait for the sale

[@rez9159]

I also prefer stock devices in a lot areas. Sometime they have even big advantages, because Live doesn't compensate latency for the host transport information, tools like VolumeShaper 2/3, LFO Tool etc. which syncing to transport will be out of sync if you place a linear phase EQ or any other stuff that introduces latency, in front of them, while Lives own Shaper device is compensated. Then there is Push, having a device to control software synths like hardware is also an advantage. In the most cases for me third party tools are more about how things can be done and not what can be done. Technically Synplant 2 is not a very complex synth, but the way how i create sounds with Genopatch and its seed system, is a selling point for me, because its simply fun. Before buying stuff you should be question yourself if a third party tool does something Live can't do and if Live can do the same, is it too complicate for me to realize this with Live tools? ..do i like the workflow? ...do i understand whats exactly the point of wanting a certain plugin?

[@Zdrewe]

It’s exactly what I had in mind while making this video! I have nothing against third party plugins and in fact I have a lot of them but I’ll save myself a lot of time and money if I would rather appreciate the value behind stock plugins instead of trying to chase trends or advices

[@youareliedtobythemedia]

Nothing buildin will ever replace superior drummer

Interesting - Subbed!

[@narutohokage24]

The bathroom call out was wild….

[@Zdrewe]

…so I guess it was true for you 😂

[@diegoj.4465]

what is that synth instrument hes using in the first part? is that an ableton sound?

[@Zdrewe]

If you ask about the bass from envelope follower, that’s a simple saw wave patch with +5 harmonic I processed with Roar after

[@MrFullyCharged]

It’s interesting to see the market for used plugins. People would rather pay full price for a “new” one, despite it literally being an email attached download. If trust in the market existed, one could sell virtual for 50% of our cost after realizing we maybe don’t use/love specific plugins… but I guess in the current world, we just stockpile them over time 😅

[@Zdrewe]

Great idea actually! Obviously you can transfer a license and technically sell a “second hand plugin” but it usually happens on forums where nothing is guaranteed 😂. Something like Reverb.com but for the plugins would be cool

[@alessandrotorres3537]

All of the Ableton stick fx are goated but nah you should keep Valhalla bcs reverb in Ableton is not good

[@alecdurbaville6355]

The issue with sidechain EQ in the low end is that it messes with phase

[@Zdrewe]

True. You can make it slightly better by turning EQ8 to high quality/oversampling mode yet in general if someone has serious problems with phase I always recommend FUSER

[@Bthelick]

you missed a trick there, pirate logo should have been accompanied by keygen liquid DnB

[@Zdrewe]

Brings too many nostalgia, I would’ve cried then 🥲

[@ghfjfghjasdfasdf]

Infiltrator says hello…

[@Zdrewe]

Shhhhh, don’t bring the ultimate glitch/happy accidents machine to the party 🤫

[@ghfjfghjasdfasdf]

😵‍💫😆

[@revoltrecordings]

yeap. even a fart can come out dope with infiltrator @@Zdrewe

[@JSewellBeats]

the goat THE GOAT

[@Zdrewe]

Rent free meme applicable to everything

[@CryoGroovetracks]

I like this, you are the healthiest Ableton producer not like others, including me, using steroid plug-ins 😉

[@Zdrewe]

Hahah it may look like that but unfortunately I’m heavily addicted to plugins. This video is to show others as well as myself from the future that sometimes it is not worth it to fall into plugin boutique deals and spend whole paycheck on plugins 😂

[@kriss12loverap]

I recently switched to stock ableton. For the mist part… Lfo device is very cpu intensive

[@Zdrewe]

The M4L LFO? It shouldn’t be that heavy on CPU unless you have some simple modulations going on. Judging from what you say, someone got geeky 😎. Which version you’re running?

[@kriss12loverap]

@@Zdrewe 11 suite, and yes im using stock LFO device that comes with ableton. and yes its a max for live device. thing is when i set it too high speeds it eats cpu. and when i use lfo in synths to modulate stuff it takes almost no cpu. so lowkey i wonder how to use that lfo, maybe i should download the less cpu intensive version someone made on the net. the power of max for live, which i soon might learn, cause im hella geeky lol.

[@lilwombat]

Maybe it's the device you're modulating or maybe a bug? It's very light on CPU for me

[@jasonstarling]

This is suddenly very relevant to anyone who owns a Push 3 standalone, since third party plugins are not supported on the device.

[@Zdrewe]

You know what, I have the “wired” version of Push so I haven’t thought about it 😅 good point

[@PlugInGuruVideo]

As a developer of a cool host plugin that lets you play with all your plugins in unique ways, we hope you don’t delete all your plugins-ins. Also nothing else sounds like Valhalla reverb. Nothing sounds like R-Bass or OTT either. There are mountains of code behind all these plugins-ins and thus why nothing else sounds like they do. Find your sound, be unique and enjoy the adventure. Cutting off body parts just to cut off body parts limits the fun you can have, in my opinion. Also not cheap if you have 800 plug-ins like many of our customers!

[@MishazBts]

So the envelope follower is just a long way to make a MB Compressor

[@Zdrewe]

Correct but not exactly. It’s more of a dynamic eq like Fab Filter. Compression gives more control like ratio and knee. With Envelope Follower you can only control “attack” and “release” by adjusting rise and fall parameters

[@rickmassimo6192]

@@Zdrewe Am I missing something? You put the envelope follower/EQ on the bass, right? Did you sidechain it to the kick and I missed it? (Also, dynamic EQ can be done on the free TDR Nova plugin and I think on the sidechain of the Ableton stock compressor if you pick an EQ curve. No?)

[@off_utst]

well... after watching this video it feels like using both fl and ableton is not professional. about the reverb: instead of vintage reverb there's another pluggin from valhalla called Supermassive, it's free and it's my go-to reverb pluggin; of course if i want more realistic space i'll obviously switch to a convolution reverb pluggin anyways, super useful video for 100%-ableton-users 👍

[@Zdrewe]

Supermassive is goated ngl. Thanks for watching the video 🙏 but I don’t know what to feel about the “not profesional” part. There are professionals with millions of streams like Skrillex or Virtual Riot heavily utilizing stock devices as well as people with dozens of plugins, analog emulations and mixing consoles who only rely on those tools instead of focusing on what actually sounds good and having fun. Oh, second ones usually call themselves mixing gurus by posting videos online 😂

[@NassifDJ]

that is not a soothe2 replacement brother.

[@kriss12loverap]

Does Roar have unsymetric distortion ?

[@Zdrewe]

I know that Trash allows for asymmetrical but I yet have to find out how to achieve it in Roar. Same as you said in your other comment, I just decided to switch to stock plugins for majority of my mixing and sound design 😉

[@kriss12loverap]

if u offset the phase of a signal before you distort it u can achieve unsymetric distortion in ableton btw. @@Zdrewe

[@geortz__]

I quit caffeine cuz i was always getting the urge to delete my plugins while consuming it

[@Zdrewe]

I started using more caffeine to be able to go through all of the plugins on my list

[@lukather1]

Simply put ! Your wrong ! 😊

[@fullytrapped.]

0:10 “….” 😬😬😬😂

[@Zdrewe]

Speaking for my friend obviously 😎

[@fullytrapped.]

@@Zdrewe we've all got "friends" like that... keep up the good work, enjoy your videos mate.

[@griffingibson4389]

dudes showing me the secret room in my own house

[@Zdrewe]

Hahaha well said 😂

[@NoQualmsTheArtist]

Only a non professional would delete their plugins. I have to open up projects from clients and share projects with collaborators. Imagine saying "oh sorry I can't work on your project because I don't have any of the plugins in your session, because I only use stock plugins". Yeah real professional 😂

[@Zdrewe]

At least there are no problems in collaborating since you only used stock plugins on your side 😂

[@NoQualmsTheArtist]

@@Zdrewe i guess if I start the project and everyone else uses the same DAW, then you are right. But I have Logic, Ableton, Pro Tools & Studio One because I never know what DAW the client will use 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Zdrewe]

@@NoQualmsTheArtist ok I thought that you got the joke at first, since clearly the beginning of this video should be took with a grain of salt. By any means I don’t encourage anyone to delete their plugins straight away (I can’t imagine not having some of my own ones). Although just imagine beginner or intermediate producers getting tons and tons of plugins without knowing the power of stock ones.

[@NoQualmsTheArtist]

@@Zdrewe all good 😁👌🏾 As a professional in the industry, it pisses me off all the terrible advice taught to beginners in the name of views and clicks. Just subbed to your channel as an apology 🤣

[@ang2k77]

FRUITY REVERB 2 ❤

[@Zdrewe]

Ngl, I started my journey with FL and back then I always thought that FL stock reverbs were the best of world can give me

[@marcosrotllan]

When ableton pays a random influencer

[@Zdrewe]

Now everyone who want to make KZbin videos about Live is an influencer paid by Ableton 😂😂😂

[@High.on.Life_DnB]

You made someone with nasty ADD pay attention!

[@zvnavv3w5]

Stock FL plugins are way better, IMHO. Imagine struggling to precisely clip out certain frequencies in sampled audio, in Ableton, in the year 2024... I've been using both for the last decade, and I can't see why people use Ableton. I can accomplish the same, non-live things in FL Studio faster and more accurately, on my worst days, in half the time it takes in Ableton.

[@gerardureche9803]

you are deaf? or you can't hear the clear tone and color difference It's not just that the plugins do the same thing because in the end all the compressors compress all the EQs and equalize, it's that each one sounds different and will give your instruments a different emotional character. Using the r bass is not the same as using the barg of dog, or the bx sub, or the dennise bass xl, they are all harmonic exciting for the bass; but each one has a unique sound and will make you feel different emotions

[@Zdrewe]

Don’t know why people get so serious once you bring plugins vs stock devices 😅. Sure they all sound different but people are different as well. While some look for the specific tone, some had no idea what to look for and it usually ends up having dozens of plugins and no money left to pursue further research. Using stock plugins gives an idea how each processor works and once you want to make a step up, you get better idea of what to look for 😉

[@gerardureche9803]

@@ZdreweI had not seen it like that, you are very right, today it is a matter of taste, everyone sounds good.

[@cekirdekci32]

i hit skip when he is trying to find replacement soothe with envelope follower. guys what happens when you freeze the tracks with the envelope follower on??? good. now you know you totally skip this video cause this is just another clickbait content.cause you cant really replace soothe on ableton but you can make a click bait vid on it.

[@SquizbarDeAlienOfficial]

I agree however the ableton stock amps sound absolutely terrible and are completely useless for guitar and bass

[@Zdrewe]

That’s why I’m silent on amps 😂 they work fine for some quirky sound design stuff tho

[@SquizbarDeAlienOfficial]

Agreed 🤣@@Zdrewe

[@liothomasart]

You must be out of your mind. :) Great clickbait title tho.

[@RokSivante]

Not convinced. Lol. Respectfully disagree. But to each their own.

[@Zdrewe]

I respect that and obviously appreciate you watching the video anyway 🙏 that’s the beauty of having different opinions and insights

[@akira20ish]

I just use 10 I’m not buying 11 or 12

[@Zdrewe]

Not forcing anyone to get 12. Live 10 is a solid build and in fact if you skip the drift part, you can easily do all of other things in 10

[@akira20ish]

@@Zdrewe only live 12 I get will be lite

[@Zdrewe]

@@akira20ish I actually started with Lite version and got a cool deal on upgrade price back then

[@akira20ish]

@@Zdrewe what many people don’t realize is lite is good to get ideas quickly off the ground and if you don’t have enough space for more tracks just shove other tracks on the same one

[@PabloRodriguezwhyCharlieWhy]

I'm in Beta mode on live 12.... when you use a lot of VST... crashes as hell, I'm not happy about it!!, but if Ableton can give everything out of the box as he pointed out!! I will stick even to Ableton 9 which is still for me one of the better versions of Ableton

[@cekirdekci32]

this youtuber made this click bait vid to get arguments and comments and here we are professional producers commenting, debating 🤣 hit skip, go buy soothe lool

[@Zdrewe]

Someone got unnecessarily triggered and don’t get the point behind this whole video. Spending money on plugins without a basic knowledge from using stock ones is a plague that causes many people to lose confidence and not becoming a professional (like you). If you take everything seriously, don’t know what sarcasm and grain of salt is then my content is not for you 😉

[@naorswissa6949]

KZbinrs are fuc*ing your mind, get out of here! Run jajaja

[@obsidian295]

they're not better though