Type 92 Japanese HMG

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@adrienperie6119
@adrienperie6119 9 жыл бұрын
*Thank you for making a 17 minutes long video about the gun,* I think it really deserved the attention. Japanese machine guns from this era are simply fascinating, its almost as if the designers barely even believed a machine gun could work, let alone without an oiler pad that has its own pump, a huge barrel with giant fins, and incredible machining all around. The fact they kept producing these at all at a time when they were sending fighter pilots with half a tank of fuel in their planes, and experimenting with feeding people wood pulp is just mind blowing.
@rickautry2759
@rickautry2759 6 жыл бұрын
Hey - around the end of the war, the Japanese were throwing around money on a project to build an aerial gasoline tanker. Some drawbacks of it's were 1. it flew a hundred miles an hour slower than the American fighters. 2. It could only fly in gas - not crude oil, relying on captured refinerys in Indonesia. 3. It actually used more gas per sortie than it could have carried home to Japan.
@godofimagination
@godofimagination 5 жыл бұрын
@@rickautry2759 Do planes normally run on crude oil? Also, do we have any pictures of it?
@wk3818
@wk3818 5 жыл бұрын
@Pretty fly for a WiFi don't know where you got that from. The Japanese fought to the last man in many battles.
@adityanawani8134
@adityanawani8134 5 жыл бұрын
200th like!😁😁😁
@Snagabott
@Snagabott 5 жыл бұрын
@@rickautry2759 I guess when you know that you will be defeated - and that defeat means death - the mind will start to entertain a lot of far-fetched ideas.
@11e40r8
@11e40r8 3 жыл бұрын
Dad was in the Philippines with 25th Div. in early 45. His first patrol was to find a Japanese heavy machine gun that had been giving his unit problems. They finally found the Japanese gun set up on top of a hill. The Sgt told my Dad and another soldier to circle around and see if they could draw there fire. Dad though this was the dumbest orders he ever got, at the time. So he and the other guy circled around and got abit higher so they could get a better view of this emplacement. They started taking pot shots at this guns crew, but the Japanese soldiers that manned this gun just ducked down and try not to give away their position. My dad and the other soldier continued taking pot shots and we're getting closer and closer to the Japanese crew. Finally the Japanese had enough of this and opened up on my dad and the other soldier, who at this time we're running downhill trying to get away from the fire. Dad had stopped behind a big tree as the Japanese machine gunner trained his weapon on tree! Dad said he felt something falling down on his shoulders and he looked up and he could see the bullets going through the tree and the sawdust now falling down on top of him he says he was mesmerized by it and couldn't move and watch the bullet stitch slower and lower down towards him, then about 12 in from the top of his head the bullet stopped, he thinks the traversing mechanism had limited out for the gun to continue further. Dad said that was the last time you ever tried to use a tree as a safe haven to hide from enemy fire. While all this was happening the other patrol members with a sergeant were able to move unseen and got close enough to take out the gun crew with grenades. Dad said the machine in question was the type 92 and they called them woodpeckers because of the sound they made.
@zhuangsaur227
@zhuangsaur227 9 ай бұрын
I can imagine how unnerving it must be to experience that and not to mention if 7.92mm rounds can punch through a tree...what would it have done to human sized targets!!!
@richardstephens5570
@richardstephens5570 6 ай бұрын
@@zhuangsaur227 7.92mm was a Mauser. The Japanese used a 7.7x58mm Arisaka cartridge.
@hokehinson5987
@hokehinson5987 6 ай бұрын
In infantry training taught a tree is not a good spot to seek cover even small arms can penetrate a 12" thick tree trunk easily ....trees and sand bags laced soon deteriorate to become useless. That's why defense positions have to be maintained. War ain't fun unless you marry a cute little nurse back at the medivac...cept today it may have a beard ....😢 16:28
@swamppappy7745
@swamppappy7745 5 жыл бұрын
The 83 Toyota pickup of WWII machine guns. Underappreciated, reliable, and well manufactured.
@einzelfeuer_2855
@einzelfeuer_2855 3 жыл бұрын
Japanese manufacturing gets tons of hate but honestly they make very good stuff for a long time now. Browning and Winchester outsource lots of their guns to Miroku for production present day and the Howa rifles are among the best budget actions around. Japanese pistols weren't very good in this era but their MGs, planes, artillery, rifles and more were all on par or arguably better than other countries. Losing to the US, USSR, the enormous empire of Great Britain, China, France, Belgium and most of mainland Asia combined only after taking over 50% of the Earth's population within 2 years isn't as unimpressive as is made out by others.
@biggidousthethird2672
@biggidousthethird2672 Жыл бұрын
I dont think toyota pickups are underappreciated. They have a reputation for being god machines
@yamingoat
@yamingoat 3 ай бұрын
@@einzelfeuer_2855 yeah i think its because ww2 era japanese equipment and tech is often compared to American stuff of the same era which was much better. plus even though japanese manufacturing was pretty good the designs themselves were weird or just not what was needed. But yeah the Japanese fought a lot better than we like to give them credit for, especially considering that they'd been fighting for almost ten years by the time Americans even joined the war.
@einzelfeuer_2855
@einzelfeuer_2855 3 ай бұрын
@@yamingoat Tbh that depends which american stuff you mean... The Mitsubishi "Zero" was really excellent and held it's own with every contemporary fighter around. The BAR was honestly not as good as the Japanese Type 99 LMG that held 10 more rounds in an equally powerful cartridge and could mount a bayonet. The Type 99 Arisaka vs Springfield rifles our Marines used at Makin I dare say the Arisaka was better suited for the island hopping and jungle fighting Japan was engaged in... Japanese 105mm artillery was excellent and struck fear into Americans everywhere. We won the Pacific theatre by using VERY brand new naval aviation and marine raiding tactics and aircraft carriers really heavily tbqh. They actually adapted pretty well but simply didn't have the resources to fight China, the Soviets, the British Empire and the French and Dutch AND us all at once AND retool their limited industry and rework everything completely in the midst of total warfare against the over a hundred million odd troops of their enemies combined (many were preoccupied with Germany, Italy, Finland, Hungary, Romania, Croatia, etc in Europe and Africa ofc...But they faced off against way greater numbers anyway.) Even then it took nukes to make the war stop being so costly and grinding us down... Japan was the 4th strongest navy in the world and they fought all 3 of the strongest at once for 4 whole years. There's no need to downplay them tbh. We won anyway and our men deserve all their credit too because it wasn't due to just better gear or raw numbers...We really did both give it our all and fight hard under way less than ideal conditions on both sides.
@trooperdgb9722
@trooperdgb9722 2 ай бұрын
@@einzelfeuer_2855 Agree...except for Artillery...especially AT guns. And I note you sensibly left Tanks out completely.... lol
@ComissarZhukov
@ComissarZhukov 9 жыл бұрын
Why very few people seem to realize that the main selling point of the feed stripes on a heavy machinegun is that, with an assistant, you can have the gun firing Continuously. You can feed the stripes one afer another without touching the charging handle, or even bothering to link the stipes themselves as other people mentioned. As long as the loader can keep up stuffing one stripe after another into the feeding mechanism the gun doesn't need stop. Specially a gun like the Type 92 with its radiator hevy barrel. The feed stripes had other inherent problems. But if your priority is uninterrupted supressing fire, they had no rival. Look at this for yourselves: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIS7YWxtmJ2CgM0 There are more examples of it in the same video. But its quite clear here. So for a heavy static machinegun like the Type 92 is, and the way it was used. The feed stripes were more than adequate. Sure, an MG42 was lighter and a lot more mobile, with the belts a lot easier to carry arround. But its doctrinal use in the german army was completely different.
@CruelestChris
@CruelestChris 7 жыл бұрын
You realise you can link belts together too, right? That's kind of how belts work. And I notice they cut away any time a new strip was about to be inserted into the gun, which kind of suggests they were covering up feeding problems.
@CruelestChris
@CruelestChris 7 жыл бұрын
Eh, not really, most modern MGs are belt-fed and a lot of recent M249 SAW variants delete the magwell because the gun hates feeding from it and it makes the whole weapon less reliable. Aside from a few LMGs that are just heavy-barrel ARs, nobody's really shifted to magazines, certainly not for GPMGs that don't use the same ammo as the rest of the squad anyway.
@codyjackalope8464
@codyjackalope8464 6 жыл бұрын
Then explain wh no modern MG uses strips. Its because you could theoretically link them but they would sag causing feeding issuses and what if your assistant dies or otherwise can feed the gun?
@windhelmguard5295
@windhelmguard5295 5 жыл бұрын
@@codyjackalope8464 that is mostly because heavy machine guns barely exist anymore as general purpose machine guns have become the standard by now and you want your general purpose machine gun to function well as a light machine gun as well as an anti air weapon so most machine guns now have significantly higher rates of fire, which makes belts more effective as strips don't work as intended if the gun goes through 30 rounds before the guy loading the gun even has time to grab the next strip.
@andrewwoodhead3141
@andrewwoodhead3141 4 жыл бұрын
'If your priority is uninterrupted supressing fire (sustained fire ), they (strips ) have no rival' Rubbish. The canvas belt on the old Vickers maxim did a better job. There's all sorts of belt designs and most can be linked. No, not buying it.
@F.Krueger-cs4vk
@F.Krueger-cs4vk 3 жыл бұрын
Lived in New Guinea 60s & 70s. My parents friends had 3 of these H.M.Gs in their front yard as garden decoration. They were rusted from been out in the weather. Left behind after the war.
@pablononpicasso1977
@pablononpicasso1977 5 жыл бұрын
My dad fought in the Pacific on Bouganville for about 8 months in an Australian tank regiment and told me that they had a healthy respect for this gun.
@jamespowell6630
@jamespowell6630 Жыл бұрын
Real history.
@laurentdevaux5617
@laurentdevaux5617 6 ай бұрын
Of course ! Only those who didn't face this gun could say it was "goofy and ineffective"!
@bastogne315
@bastogne315 6 ай бұрын
How old are you?
@pablononpicasso1977
@pablononpicasso1977 6 ай бұрын
@@bastogne315 Old enough that my Dad fought in the Pacific.
@warwickmudge4114
@warwickmudge4114 2 ай бұрын
​@@pablononpicasso1977me too! Dad was with the 7th div in N.Ginea and Borneo,,I'm 54 bye the way
@MEGALODONGERS
@MEGALODONGERS 9 жыл бұрын
When you run out of ammo for this thing? You get your crew to hump it up to a treetop and drop it on the enemy. Guaranteed to kill an entire fireteam!
@vguyver2
@vguyver2 9 жыл бұрын
+BattlefiendHrush they did rig these into anti-personnel mines in some occasions. Big enough to hide many grenades pinned under it.
@shanekidwell9605
@shanekidwell9605 7 жыл бұрын
MegaloDorian m
@nicholaspatton5590
@nicholaspatton5590 7 жыл бұрын
Like drop it straight down or make a big-ass swing from which it will swing down, satisfying it's thirst for blood? And possibly impaling those unfortunate on it's tripod.
@Skribber
@Skribber 7 жыл бұрын
when dropped from a Betty bomber it could take out an aircraft carrier!
@HungryHelpings
@HungryHelpings 6 жыл бұрын
Lmaoo *kill streak sound* “tactical Nuke incoming”
@classifiedad1
@classifiedad1 9 жыл бұрын
How is this a Japanese firearm? It has no bayonet attachment!
@Telonelemon3
@Telonelemon3 9 жыл бұрын
Ironically the type 99 MG that they made to supplement this one had a bayonet.
@douro20
@douro20 9 жыл бұрын
+Pilotmario Why would you have a bayonet on such a heavy gun?
@classifiedad1
@classifiedad1 9 жыл бұрын
douro20 It's a rifle-caliber Japanese firearm. It's supposed to have a bayonet. Its sarcasm.
@classifiedad1
@classifiedad1 8 жыл бұрын
crazyfvck True.
@HsienKoMeiLingFormerYANG
@HsienKoMeiLingFormerYANG 8 жыл бұрын
Don't forgetting Brit too.
@MultiDislikes
@MultiDislikes 5 жыл бұрын
Never overheats never stops shooting....high quality and so many features to make it more flexible....nice video!
@Archimondeoo
@Archimondeoo 6 жыл бұрын
The disassembly on this is fascinating. Its so similar to say, an M240B or other modern Medium Machine Gun. I had no idea that the concept was so similar.
@Raptorman0909
@Raptorman0909 6 жыл бұрын
The radially finned barrel looks like something out of Forbidden Planet. Being able to fire non-stop without water is pretty impressive even if short breaks were in fact needed. I would have liked to see a cartridge for it.
@garywemmer9342
@garywemmer9342 Ай бұрын
An amazing demonstration, of a very unique firearm!!!!! The designer, is beyond a chance exploror, in the arts!!!
@chapiit08
@chapiit08 Жыл бұрын
The amount of intricate machining involved in the manufacturing of this gun is astounding.
@shawngilliland243
@shawngilliland243 6 жыл бұрын
You can hear, and see - and indeed almost feel! - the quality of the machining on this fine firearm. Thanks for a great video on a very rare gun, Ian!
@TonboIV
@TonboIV 9 жыл бұрын
I agree with Ian, this gun seems way ahead of others available at the time. I've certainly learned a lot about early MGs on this channel, and it struck me that all the others so far are full of baffling design decisions, over complexities, and ill thought out controls. Everything about this seems practical and well thought out. The bolt mechanism is delightfully simple and rugged, disassemble is easy, the controls are practical, that tripod is excellent. Other than the large size and oil system, which are just artifacts of the time it was made, there's not a lot you could improve.
@buster9692
@buster9692 9 жыл бұрын
So then what your opinion on the mg42/34
@TonboIV
@TonboIV 9 жыл бұрын
Jack Packet You mean the MG42 that was designed in... 1942 right? ಠ_ಠ
@LIGHTNING278TH
@LIGHTNING278TH 9 жыл бұрын
They could have redesigned it to make it a belt fed gun. No more messing around with 30 round feed strips.
@jkarra2334
@jkarra2334 9 жыл бұрын
SRGTHALO Those feed strips were able to attach to each other so you could keep up giving sustaining fire for longer periods...Also, with mist heaviest bullet in WWII (204 grains) this weapon had remarkable long distance up to even +4000 yards.I once saw one type 92 equipped with optic sights and owner told me that type 92 is accurate as hell even in + 1500 yards.No wonder type 92 was so deadly, slow firing, easy to keep aim in trgt and very much fine crafted weapon with small tolerances.
@LIGHTNING278TH
@LIGHTNING278TH 9 жыл бұрын
J Karra Never said it was a bad gun but with the feed strips you add more mass to the ammo and linking strips while in the process of firing sounds a bit finicky. Not to mention the added space it takes up. I still think a 250 round cloth belt or disintegrating links would have been a superior solution.
@bruhbruhbruhbruh12
@bruhbruhbruhbruh12 7 жыл бұрын
What bothers me is that people would call this channel “ violent” or call Ian “crazy”. This is the most informative channel on KZbin that I’ve found and Ian looks like the most peaceful man in the world. ( peaceful doesn’t mean harmless though)
@AngelSamael
@AngelSamael 6 жыл бұрын
It's also not controversial as you would expect a channel focused on guns, including guns made by Nazis and the Confederacy. The most political he's ever gotten is criticizing how bans on assault weapons imports focused on how the gun looks and how easy it is to get around the rules. I don't know why anyone would like the assault weapon import ban, I know European guns are usually better but you can't rely on gun failures to stop mass shootings.
@tedkier3264
@tedkier3264 6 жыл бұрын
backwater moron what bothers me is when less-inteligent folks call Ian 'aggressive,violent, psychotic and unnerving.'
@misterscienceguy
@misterscienceguy 6 жыл бұрын
Who is calling this channel violent or Ian crazy? It just sounds like you're projecting some kind of bizarre strawman.
@Silamon2
@Silamon2 6 жыл бұрын
Those comments were posted months ago, around the time youtube was flagging a lot of channels that focused on guns for violent content, and this was one of the channels in the crosshairs. Thankfully they never got taken down.
@Desmaad
@Desmaad 6 жыл бұрын
I like Ian for his relative sanity. Most other gun channels scare me.
@smitty3624
@smitty3624 8 жыл бұрын
how the hell did the same military that made this make the damn Nambu?
@Tomikos995
@Tomikos995 8 жыл бұрын
Or any other japanese pistol.
@BlackStar250874
@BlackStar250874 8 жыл бұрын
Nambu was a pretty much an original design. This one was a copy.
@Killjoy45
@Killjoy45 8 жыл бұрын
I think he meant Nambu LMG. Type 96 and 99. This weapon here could also be called Nambu for they all had the same designer.
@huntaerospacecorp
@huntaerospacecorp 8 жыл бұрын
The Japanese didn't see the Pistol as a combat arm, and, in reality, it isn't. It's ineffective against anything beyond point-blank range, and they weren't really used as defensive weapons in the way that German MGer's were issued P38s. I think that the burden of defense on Machine Gunners fell to the bayonet every soldier was issued, even those without Rifles. So, they didn't really need a highly effective pistol design. Besides, the Nambu isn't terribly bad as far as pistols go. The Type 94, on the other hand..
@jamespfp
@jamespfp 8 жыл бұрын
There's more than one company in the world, and usually for any given nation. That usually results in a very healthy form of competition in which we are able, at some arbitrary later date, to clearly pick which variations or evolutions are objectively the best.
@Kuschel_K
@Kuschel_K 9 жыл бұрын
it's a heavy automatic sniper rifle :D
@andrewmccarney
@andrewmccarney 9 жыл бұрын
Emanicas It's basically not even close.
@collinis1
@collinis1 9 жыл бұрын
Can't tell if y'all are joking or not..
@chillipepper7045
@chillipepper7045 9 жыл бұрын
***** To be honest though, aslong as the gun is capable of reaching the distances you want, a gun that can be used as a DMR can easily be used as a sniper rifle, the only difference between a DMR and Sniper is the application of the weapon and not the function of the gun, although the only limitation can be effective range in which case its not always interchangeable
@KittJT2
@KittJT2 9 жыл бұрын
All the people in this thread don't understand the concept of what an open bolt does to your aim :/
@Riceball01
@Riceball01 9 жыл бұрын
It's not a sniper rifle, it's a heavy, automatic saber. Fans of Scholagladiatoria will get the joke.
@西尾弘一-e3s
@西尾弘一-e3s 3 жыл бұрын
A heavy machine gun that my father had commanded and used for eight years from the China-Japanese War to the end of the Pacific War!
@convertible4925
@convertible4925 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad he wasn't part of a banzai charge or 2
@stoggafllik
@stoggafllik Жыл бұрын
@@convertible4925 he probably was. You might never know
@ESPLTD322
@ESPLTD322 Жыл бұрын
That’s pretty cool man I’m 26 but my grandfather and all 5 of his brothers (except 1 was too young and got sent to Korea) were in the US Army (they went from North Africa, to Sicily (ironically where they were all born and came to the US in 1924, I believe), to France, to Belgium, to Germany, I believe. would be 102 if he were still alive, he died when I was young. He didn’t see much combat, his brothers did though, one of them, nick, his jeep was blown up by a stuka and he had a big scar on his shoulder, but he fully recovered somehow. But my grandfather was actually on a boat to be the first invasion wave on the Japanese mainland, but it was called off a few days in advance, because of the atomic bomb incident.
@chillout8320
@chillout8320 Жыл бұрын
@@convertible4925he could’ve. I don’t think heavy machine gun operators would charge but rather support the charge with suppressing the enemy. If he did charge it would be easy since the Chinese couldn’t really do much against them.
@historyandpoliticsexplaine4876
@historyandpoliticsexplaine4876 Жыл бұрын
@@convertible4925whats ur problem
@cyclonetaylor7838
@cyclonetaylor7838 6 жыл бұрын
Everyone seems to ask how the mg team moved such a heavy weapon. If you look at the tops of the ends of the tripod mounts are what look like pipes welded on. Wooden poles were passed through these so the soldiers could easily pick up and move quickly.
@vitis65
@vitis65 5 жыл бұрын
I believe they show that in the movie The Thin Red Line when the Japanese are pursuing Private Witt through the jungle shortly before is killed.
@jacaredosvudu1638
@jacaredosvudu1638 3 жыл бұрын
Like the dudes carrying the .50 in Beasts of No Nation?
@hokehinson5987
@hokehinson5987 6 ай бұрын
There's film showing the VC in nam moving guns the same way. Who knows, may have been a woodpecker....
@stephensmith4480
@stephensmith4480 5 жыл бұрын
That was a masterpiece of Japanese engineering.
@johnwilson2338
@johnwilson2338 2 ай бұрын
Ian, still glad to re-watch a video! 👍
@USAirsoft
@USAirsoft 9 жыл бұрын
Very interesting watch
@slimemyhouse9877
@slimemyhouse9877 4 жыл бұрын
@M0llY TeNdieS Is that an achievement from Rising Storm 1?
@slimemyhouse9877
@slimemyhouse9877 4 жыл бұрын
@M0llY TeNdieS Not really, it just popped up in the feed. "The Woodpecker" is also an achievement in a game called Rising Storm, for killing a certain amount of enemies with the 92 HMG
@georgemuller308
@georgemuller308 4 жыл бұрын
No silly that’s a gun, not a watch!
@CLAWSPECTER
@CLAWSPECTER 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see u here didnt think you'd be intrested in this gun besides its meme
@therandomrollercoasterride8751
@therandomrollercoasterride8751 3 жыл бұрын
Where do I know you from ?
@MrJohndoakes
@MrJohndoakes 6 жыл бұрын
13:01 It has a Hitachi factory mark on the side next to a serial number.
@amopastorcanadense
@amopastorcanadense 10 ай бұрын
Wow there are so many known famous brands that made guns like Howa, Daihatsu, Hitachi also?i will never look a.hitachi prpduct the same way again hahahaaha
@001suisen4
@001suisen4 6 ай бұрын
I am Japanese, and since there are probably no more of these guns left in Japan, I think they would also be valuable as antiques.
@JG-dd9xv
@JG-dd9xv 4 ай бұрын
Hmm, wonder why there are none left in Japan …
@spikespa5208
@spikespa5208 2 ай бұрын
Melted down into early Toyotas?
@riszan1753
@riszan1753 2 ай бұрын
They converted into fire fighters fire hose..
@gregsmith7428
@gregsmith7428 Ай бұрын
I have a WW2 Army training video about this MG. It was called the Jukie. Instructor did a thorough job disassembly and reassembly. Army paras were trained on how to use this and other types of captured Japanese firepower. A great training film.
@nagasako7
@nagasako7 4 жыл бұрын
If you had a Type 92 in WW2 in a defensive position, you're pretty much putting a stop to any troop assault with insanely accurate MG suppressing fire.
@jamesricker3997
@jamesricker3997 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it was too heavy to move easily. If you were endanger of getting flanked all overrun you could not easily relocate the gun to another position You would die with Honor
@dallesamllhals9161
@dallesamllhals9161 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesricker3997 M2 any better/lighter?
@CruelestChris
@CruelestChris 3 жыл бұрын
@@dallesamllhals9161 Well yes, the M2 is a belt-fed 50 cal that's effective against most Japanese armoured vehicles, nevermind infantry, while the Type 92 is basically a Bren gun with an inferior feed system clamped into a hundred-pound machine rest.
@dallesamllhals9161
@dallesamllhals9161 3 жыл бұрын
@@CruelestChris Aren't you thinking of the Type 96? Pretty sure, the Type 92 is more like the Hotchkiss...
@CruelestChris
@CruelestChris 3 жыл бұрын
@@dallesamllhals9161 I mean in functional terms, it's a rifle-calibre machine gun noted for its accuracy with a 30-round feed, so similar to the Bren in that specific way.
@Finnv893
@Finnv893 9 жыл бұрын
this is why i dont watch discovery channel, hell they probably started the whole misconception about aks being inaccurate
@simonlamoureux5440
@simonlamoureux5440 5 жыл бұрын
AKs are accurate, the 7,62x37 MM bullet has bad Aerodynamics and velocity and loses accuracy at range.
@simonlamoureux5440
@simonlamoureux5440 5 жыл бұрын
@Neil Goldstrom Was thinking of the STG's 7.92x37 Kurz when I wrote 37. They're very similar of course the AK being inspired from the STG (Even if the debates rage on on if it took mechanical inspiration as well).
@brasstard7.627
@brasstard7.627 5 жыл бұрын
@@simonlamoureux5440 7.92x33
@simonlamoureux5440
@simonlamoureux5440 4 жыл бұрын
@GYPSY KING FURY How'd I embarrass you?
@Lykyk
@Lykyk 4 жыл бұрын
AKs are inaccurate depending on your standards. They do the job just fine in the hand of grunts though.
@monsirto
@monsirto 9 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to voice my appreciation for these great videos. Very informative and always an intelligent analysis of performance and design. Great stuff!
@edmedlin2936
@edmedlin2936 Ай бұрын
I saw one of these at a friend's place about 25 years ago. He did not know what it was, just said that some guy owed him money and gave him the gun as payment. I advised him that it was worth about 10 years in the slammer. Dunno what ever happened to it, as he dropped dead a few years later. This was not the first time I met guys with (illegal) unregistered full auto weapons. I always pretended that I did not hear or see what they had. I had a Thompson SMG and a PPS-43, but that was in Vietnam and I left them there. Love your videos, as I am a lifelong gun nut. I had British PIAT that I bought for $5.99 in about 1963. Dunno what happened to it after I left there and went in the army.
@Drownedinblood
@Drownedinblood 9 жыл бұрын
So you're telling me History Channels Tales of the Gun special on Japanese weapons was inaccurate? Oh my.
@blogsblogs2348
@blogsblogs2348 5 жыл бұрын
I never realised how good a machine gun this was.. thanks
@atropiaveteran
@atropiaveteran 7 жыл бұрын
The barrel definitely has a space age feel, with the spirals.
@aserta
@aserta 9 жыл бұрын
You can actually hear the top quality and the heft of the metal..incredible.
@sloanchampion85
@sloanchampion85 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice...it's extremely well made,lots of great built in adjustments
@yetanother9127
@yetanother9127 9 жыл бұрын
Those cooling fins, man. I guess they were going for the classic "space raygun" look.
@Prometheus19853
@Prometheus19853 5 жыл бұрын
The 30 round strip isn't a bug, it's a feature. 30 rounds is just about a perfect MG burst length, and a good crew could probably keep up a steady rate of bursts out of this thing. Even if it didn't have the extreme cooling system, I doubt you'd be able to overheat it as easily as say, an MG42.
@jamespfp
@jamespfp 8 жыл бұрын
I've watched quite a few of your videos in the past several months, and I think this is my first clear favourite video. That's a really neat gun, totally on par with the air-cooled Maxims.
@jamespfp
@jamespfp 8 жыл бұрын
(As opposed to the water-cooled Maxims...)
@insovietrussiavodka
@insovietrussiavodka 7 жыл бұрын
We have Forgotten weapons telling us this is a great weapon. We have AZ guns telling us this is a good weapon and some footage of it fireing. and then we have Lock-n-Load failing to destroy a target due to malfunction after 60 rounds and campering the gun to a nuke to make it look bad and they didn't fail at using it... even though they looked like Laurel and Hardy...
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 7 жыл бұрын
How strange that a scripted TV program would perpetuate a dumb myth.
@insovietrussiavodka
@insovietrussiavodka 6 жыл бұрын
is it out of the question they loaded a dummy round so it would fail to fire and they would have to stop?
@Shaun_Jones
@Shaun_Jones 5 жыл бұрын
Necro von Cortex probably not, they wouldn’t want to damage someone’s property, but it did seem like they were trying to screw up the loading
@squirrele.1266
@squirrele.1266 4 жыл бұрын
MY THUMB
@iannordin5250
@iannordin5250 Жыл бұрын
I love R. Lee Ermy but Lock and Load was Fudd Lore personified
@andrewmallory3854
@andrewmallory3854 6 жыл бұрын
It’s not fair to compare this to the GPMG concept or the Vickers MMG. It’s a different concept and very well executed given that. The ammo feed is the only issue. Everything else works well and is well engineered. Heavy beast though it must have been, MGs were not meant to be moved around all that much when this was designed. I’m really enjoying this channel.
@christonejazz
@christonejazz 8 жыл бұрын
That, is a REALLY nice gun..
@hammamalzahiri5260
@hammamalzahiri5260 7 жыл бұрын
ChristOneJazz IV zs . D
@biboyumandar1538
@biboyumandar1538 Жыл бұрын
I am just amazed at how this machine gun is being designed and engineered in the past by the French and later improved by the Japanese. It is not that complicated in terms of maintenance but as far as i observed, in terms of its operation, it is very efficient, reliable and durable. One of the biggest plus of this HMG is that it has a huge air cooled heat sink to avoid the barrel from overheating. Its just an excellent HMG.
@amopastorcanadense
@amopastorcanadense 10 ай бұрын
They must live in a wind area i guess because if.it is standing still it.wouldnt help that much besides more material do absorb heat..?i think this is very cool but i always wonder how good it did
@hokehinson5987
@hokehinson5987 6 ай бұрын
History reveals the French were grand innovators in fire arms from the get go. The U.S. copied the French musket design with double throat hammer & using barrel bands over the english brown turd, plus .69 caliber instead of .75. French invented first rifled musket with only rifling the last 4" of the barrel! Which enabled faster loading over a fully rifled barrel, pin fire cartridge, the center fire, bolt actions much better than trap door styles. Their Mas bolt & semi autos are excellent guns. They had junk to, like their lite machine gun in ww1 (Chauchat), but every nation has duds... 16:28
@shaunbrennan5281
@shaunbrennan5281 7 жыл бұрын
Regarding how heavily built this gun is, I have read in a book called 'The Bolt Action' that the Arisaka bolt action rifle was over built in anticipation of steel resources becoming limited as the war progressed and actions being able to made entirely from iron and still function successfully. Maybe the same doctrine here?
@hokehinson5987
@hokehinson5987 6 ай бұрын
Post war trials on axis small arms by the u.s. dept of army revealed the niponese Arisaka to be the strongest made bolt action receiver of any nation from WW2. Took 9 x the normal proof loads to cause fracture.😮 yet my dad, a ww2 vet had one but told us never to shoot it for fear of blowing up. American propaganda at its finest!😉
@reynaldoflores4522
@reynaldoflores4522 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to these MGs, so many U.S. Marines bit the sand on the beaches of Guadalcanal, Iwo Jima, and Okinawa!
@d74morris
@d74morris 7 жыл бұрын
U did a great job explaining that gun-I really enjoyed it.I never heard much about Japanese machine guns before
@genericfakename8197
@genericfakename8197 7 жыл бұрын
I'm disappointed that it didn't have a bayonet lug.
@markgman4157
@markgman4157 7 жыл бұрын
Looks like it would be good for home defense. Nice video.
@zoutewand
@zoutewand 3 жыл бұрын
Home defense? Against what? A battalion of burglars? Lol
@jacaredosvudu1638
@jacaredosvudu1638 3 жыл бұрын
@@zoutewand imagine some burglars try to invade a house to be machinegunned by Ian with a type92
@zoutewand
@zoutewand 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacaredosvudu1638 there won't be any house left lmaooo
@ritterbruder212
@ritterbruder212 9 жыл бұрын
It just amazes me how guns used to be constructed: all the metal parts are made from forged steel that are then painstakingly machined to their final shapes.
@andymckane7271
@andymckane7271 3 жыл бұрын
I knew nothing of this Japanese weapon, but I have read of its use, of course, in many WWII books. The Japanese did make some very good and greatly reliable equipment. Thank you for making this video!
@phann860
@phann860 Жыл бұрын
I certainly enjoyed the presentation, much thanks.
@markthetank131
@markthetank131 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful gun. Thanks for showing us this
@redsoxrob1506
@redsoxrob1506 7 ай бұрын
I was stationed at Marine Barracks Guam in 1986-87. One of these was in a huge glass case in the lobby of the Colonel's offices. I remember being thankful I'd never have to lug it through the jungle and it would never be fired at me. Watching this well done and informative video nearly 10 years after the gun was auctioned I can't help but wonder what the final selling price was.
@kennyvancleave2422
@kennyvancleave2422 9 жыл бұрын
Ian, do you ever worry sometimes your won't get the firearm back together or you have parts left over? I myself dough that has ever happened. You seem to know your stuff. Another great video. I don't know anybody else that does what you do with such clarity and interest.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you liked it! I generally don't take something apart at an auction house if I don't have a pretty good idea how it works, so I don't have to worry about getting it back together.
@dallaswood4117
@dallaswood4117 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who’s had to look up KZbin videos to strip down my firearms that’s always my first thought how the hell does he know the take down and reassembly procedure on all these odd duck weapons
@jamescabeen6963
@jamescabeen6963 Жыл бұрын
Great video, fine speaker. I compliment the gentleman doing these because even those of us in favor or increased firearm regulation and control in our nation (like me) find his excellent historian knowledge and reasonable, balanced, civil discourse on that volatile subject listenable.
@ProjectFairmont
@ProjectFairmont 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I was always fascinated with this weapon after I saw it in A Thin Red Line.
@swenhtet2861
@swenhtet2861 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. From the Thin Red Line and Letters from Iwo Jima.
@johnhmstr
@johnhmstr 9 жыл бұрын
Particualarly enjoyed this very impressive and fascinating pieces of history. Thanks Ian and James D Julia for letting us all take a look and enjoy.
@burningphoneix
@burningphoneix 9 жыл бұрын
There's a little feature on the tripod you missed (I believe?) Those little funnels on top of the front feet of the tripod were for rapid relocation of the gun. The gun crew would would slide poles into those funnels (I don't know if it was bamboo or steel) and they'd have a rather useful grabbing handles to move the heavy MG around without going through the trouble of removing it from the tripod.
@ditzynightcore2926
@ditzynightcore2926 9 жыл бұрын
That whole oil and brush thing is so simplistic but clever, seriously when you look at a gun you just have no idea the things that go on inside huh.
@Mutant1988
@Mutant1988 9 жыл бұрын
Just curious. The Type 100 SMG... Is that at all available on the private market or is that exclusively found in museums due to their rarity caused by their fairly low production numbers? Why do I ask? Eh, just because it's a cool looking gun with a rather odd magazine placement (Uncomfortably far forward). Would love to see you talk about it and show it off. This gun though seems incredibly elegant and well made. Seems like it would be a dream to use (Except, you know, the war thing and all). But oh man, it's absolutely massive. But then again, it's a heavy machine gun, so that's not surprising.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 9 жыл бұрын
You can find transferable Type 100s, they're just pretty rare.
@Mutant1988
@Mutant1988 9 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons Thanks for the reply. It would be an interesting piece to see up close so I hope you get an opportunity to look at one and share it with us. I live in a country where I can't own a submachine gun, period though, so the fact that they're on the market won't do me much good. But it does increase the odds of you coming across one. My appreciation is more academic and aesthetic.
@Mark-pf9st
@Mark-pf9st 9 жыл бұрын
Japan's #1 mistake: not making enough type 100s
@Mutant1988
@Mutant1988 9 жыл бұрын
Eh, from what I've read about it it wasn't that great of a gun. But not having more sub-machine guns certainly didn't help them in combat. They also didn't have any semi-automatic rifles (As far as I know).
@Mark-pf9st
@Mark-pf9st 9 жыл бұрын
It might have. Just look at the Russians during ww2. Everyone and their mother had one and it gave the Germans hell.
@pzshi
@pzshi 9 жыл бұрын
Strangely this is my dream Machine gun for just showing off range use.
@xzqzq
@xzqzq 4 жыл бұрын
I always found these guns kinda odd looking, but looking at the components, and especially listening, screams ' quality '.
@natelav534
@natelav534 4 жыл бұрын
This is like a competition rifle built to be shot regularly for a century being issued to everybody in your army. Same people who brought you the nambu. This is a very cool gun
@のぐちはじめ-t2x
@のぐちはじめ-t2x 4 жыл бұрын
松本零士が「戦場漫画シリーズ」で取り上げてますね。 無骨で機能的、アメリカ人が解説のそこここで誉めているのが何とも嬉しいです。
@小谷野浩幸-k2y
@小谷野浩幸-k2y 4 жыл бұрын
独立重機関銃隊かな。
@kannzisakamoto4856
@kannzisakamoto4856 3 ай бұрын
I'm very happy to hear an explanation of the Type 92, which even Japanese people don't know much about. Thank you!🙂
@patrickcrosley6179
@patrickcrosley6179 9 жыл бұрын
That gun must have been a real pain to carry around and position for the generally small Japanese soldiers. Do you know the weight with the tripod?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 9 жыл бұрын
About 120 pounds total.
@KorbinX
@KorbinX 9 жыл бұрын
Clay Ronso 2-5 man teams depending on various factors: supply of ammo, size of garrison, strategic importance. (On Guadalcanal, late in the battle, Japanese would leave two men to man a position to keep fire across the ridges)
@yappojilla
@yappojilla 9 жыл бұрын
theres a really good excerpt from "With the Old Breed" i think where he describes his amazement at how fast the Japanese MG teams moved even with heavy ammo canisters and guns. at one point after advancing up to an old japanese MG position he attempts to lift one of their ammo canisters and almost falls over. moments before he watched the team bounce around with them on their backs like it was nothing.
@KorbinX
@KorbinX 9 жыл бұрын
Such an excellent book. Really puts you into the mind of the US soldiers and what they had to go thru.
@AlrightPC
@AlrightPC 9 жыл бұрын
buffalostu stu Surprising what men can do when theyre bring shot at all day.
@timtheskeptic1147
@timtheskeptic1147 3 жыл бұрын
I used to work at an adult store, this gun has more ribbing than anything we ever sold.
@Harpoon-
@Harpoon- 4 жыл бұрын
悲しいのが日本人が解説しているのでは無く、米國人かつての敵國人が日本の九二式重機関銃を実に素晴らしい解説している事ですね。 日本人としては嬉しくも有りそして悲しくも有る……
@2990117
@2990117 4 жыл бұрын
そもそも日本じゃ博物館展示のような場合でない限り、撃てる状態でこういった銃を所有する事がまず認められないから。 下手に改造されて原型なくなるくらいなら、銃規制の緩いアメリカにあった方がいいでしょ。
@Harpoon-
@Harpoon- 4 жыл бұрын
SM0170 さん そうなんだよね、旧軍人の方が自腹で買った南部拳銃も規制対象に入って回収して破棄するそうですからね…… 本当に残念です。
@humiyan928
@humiyan928 4 жыл бұрын
銃器に限らず、銃剣や日本刀以外の軍刀類もすべて税関でぶった切られて数センチの鉄くずにされますからね、下手に日本に戻そうとするより海外のコレクターが保存してくれているのが一番いいのです。日本の官憲の銃刀法関係の神経質さは、以前ローマ法王が来日した時について来たバチカンの衛兵のサーベルを法定の長さに切ろうとして国際問題になりかけたことがあるとかなんとか今でも語り草になってますから、こと武器に関する物の場合は海外で日本軍の物を見かけても、絶対に日本に買って帰ろうとは思わない事です。
@kinonaz1817
@kinonaz1817 4 жыл бұрын
日本に持ち込もうにも壊されるからね...動く銃を無可動実銃にしてしまうのはあまりにも勿体ない
@ZombieMan44
@ZombieMan44 4 жыл бұрын
That's just sad, so you can only get japanese guns somewhere outside of Japan
@timbrwolf1121
@timbrwolf1121 9 жыл бұрын
I usually enjoy your videos. This one I really liked however. I never realized how well made and planned out this platform was.
@richardlahan7068
@richardlahan7068 5 жыл бұрын
I guess "heavy machine gun" refers to the weight, not the caliber!
@neurofiedyamato8763
@neurofiedyamato8763 4 жыл бұрын
It mostly have to do with sustained fire and effective range. The Type 92 compared to the 96 and 99 can fire for way longer and with a much more stable platform allowing it to get accurate long range shots. It's the same logic with the German GPMG. With a bipod, it functioned as a LMG, and with a tripod it was more like a HMG.
@elektro3000
@elektro3000 9 жыл бұрын
This looks like it would make for a really fun shoot range video. I really hope you'll beg the auction winner to run this one through its paces on camera with you!
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 9 жыл бұрын
Eventually I will have a chance to do a shooting video with one of these, be it this particular one or another.
@50gent1
@50gent1 9 жыл бұрын
Will you be doing a sold price vid like with the stg and fg42 ? Unfortunately I was a little short of the sale prices on those!!
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 9 жыл бұрын
I will put the hammer prices into the video descriptions after the auction takes place.
@irusan_san
@irusan_san 6 жыл бұрын
I saw this HMG in a local museum in Indonesia, and its awesome.
@leesherman100
@leesherman100 6 жыл бұрын
Good bad or otherwise, the Type 92 claimed many dead and wounded. Great vid. War is hell.
@quincy8557
@quincy8557 9 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your channel, one of the best of its kind on KZbin
@Corristo89
@Corristo89 9 жыл бұрын
Anyone with a bit of military experience should know that oiling a gun is a a double-edged sword. On the one hand you need oil to keep the parts in working order, to reduce wear and tear and so on. On the other hand oil attracts dirt and helps it stick. In the case of the Type 92, dirt collected on the feed strips would eventually clog up the gun, causing it to jam or misfire. This MG was great for fixed positions, like bunkers, trenches and so on. But once it had to be moved, the huge weight made it a massive liability for the soldiers. Looking back at it, the Type 92's main problem were the 30 round feed strips, which were susceptible to dirt and had to be manually loaded every time, meaning that the gun was almost impossible to operate alone in an emergency. A machine gun with a ammo belt could technically be operated by one man if needed.
@huntaerospacecorp
@huntaerospacecorp 8 жыл бұрын
While you could fire a belt-fed machine gun by yourself, it isn't a terribly good idea. If you notice in many videos of MGs from that time firing there was the No. 2 who kept the ammunition feeding reliably into the gun by keeping the belt free from kinks and the like. If you were alone, you couldn't do that, increasing likelihood of jams. Additionally, before disintegrating belts were a thing, fabric belts could shrink from moisture (common in jungle warfare) making them unusable as the cartridges aren't properly spaced out. This isn't a problem with strips.
@blazeelvirafirehoof7844
@blazeelvirafirehoof7844 6 жыл бұрын
picture yourself at the shooting range, you got your fancy colt revolver, your old Henry rifle or an AK 47. you get the gun ready, load in the mag and just feel all awesome, the sun is shining, birds are chirping and a random guy comes with a type 92 HMG and start shooting it right next to you, dubt you'll go 10 shades paler quicker than that annytime soon XD
@lndominustiger8494
@lndominustiger8494 5 жыл бұрын
The machine gun Type 92 " Kyuuni-shiki juu-kikanjuu " it is probably the weapon that more casualties inflicted on US marines in the Pacific stage during the Second World War.
@numberpirate
@numberpirate 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always Ian!! Thanks man.
@jameshalleluyah8133
@jameshalleluyah8133 9 жыл бұрын
In my living room, on my coffee table, aimed at the front door!
@mikecain3134
@mikecain3134 6 ай бұрын
My father who was a member of the 11th Airborne said they could adjust the rate of fire faster by placing a few dimes in front of the recoil spring. This way it didn't sound like a woodpecker when used by US troops. He said it also caused some feed malfunctions but worked.
@TheJeffNasty
@TheJeffNasty 9 жыл бұрын
I've always liked these since the Forgotten Hope mod for battlefield 1942. They are so different from our famed Browning designs....yet appear to be equally effective with trained crews.
@elliots-nowack8797
@elliots-nowack8797 9 жыл бұрын
Fantastic to finally see a video on this gun as almost none exist! Very good. Thanks for sharing. :-)
@danm7298
@danm7298 Жыл бұрын
I miss the old intro music!
@troy9477
@troy9477 7 жыл бұрын
Didn't know much about these. It really is well thought out and well made. My eye was drawn to all the cooling fins at the start, which led me to conclude it was not a quick change barrel. The takedown is excellent- large, easy to handle parts and sub assemblies which will not get lost. The feed system is a little different, but it seems like the feed strips would be easy to stack in an ammo can or wood box. The oiler is a good idea, and it saves the cartridges having to be oiled at the plant. We all know that lubed cartridges will gather dust and debris during transport and setup. Far better to do it inside the gun, right before firing. Good Japanese arms often do not get the respect they are due. I remember hearing about a postwar test of the main bolt action rifles of the different nations, all rebarreled to 30-06 and using proof ammo. The Arisaka outlasted them all. Great video as always. Thank you
@Medievalfan94
@Medievalfan94 8 жыл бұрын
Your intromusic somehow reminds me of Age of Empires II...
@Jesses001
@Jesses001 9 жыл бұрын
I actually got to see one of these fire once. I see why their fire rate gave them their nickname. They chug along with a very deliberate rhyme.
@Oblithian
@Oblithian 4 жыл бұрын
A Japanese MG based on a French MG, A gun both Ian and his father can appreciate.
@bearboy879
@bearboy879 Жыл бұрын
I will say the Germans made lots of scopes for the heavy mounted MG42, however the Japanese scopes were also very cool. I am happy you made this video.
@spead0225
@spead0225 6 жыл бұрын
type=式 92=九二 Heavy Machine Gun=重 機関 銃 Type92HMG=九二式重機関銃
@DeaconOfTheUK
@DeaconOfTheUK 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't 92 be 九十二 (Kyu Ju Ni)? Or is it more said as nine-two rather than ninety-two?
@spead0225
@spead0225 4 жыл бұрын
@@DeaconOfTheUK 92式(hmg)=kyu ni shiki 11年式(lmg)=jyu ichi nen shiki 年=year ,age 96式(lmg)=kyu roku shiki 3年式(mg)=san nen shiki 3式(lmg)=san shiki 九二= × kyu jyu ni ○kyu ni 九十二=kyu jyu ni 38type rifle=38式歩兵銃 38=san hachi or san pachi 歩兵=infantry 銃=gun 小銃=歩兵銃 小銃=rifle
@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe
@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe 2 ай бұрын
Wild Bill Hickock to brief us on this weopen. Take it away!
@950hareroya2
@950hareroya2 4 жыл бұрын
そんな素晴らしい火器だとは知らなかった。他国のひとの動画から教えてもらうなんて。
@wongyc5585
@wongyc5585 Ай бұрын
The type 92 is a reliable machine gun with long continuous period firing.it have some fault,it is heavy which requires three person to carry it with tripod. the front wheel for adjusting the gun barrel height could put crew in danger where they need to move to the front.
@falloutghoul1
@falloutghoul1 8 жыл бұрын
Imagine if this was belt-fed.
@nightrunner1456
@nightrunner1456 2 ай бұрын
My neighbor had one in his basement 55-years ago.
@kennethbowers2897
@kennethbowers2897 6 жыл бұрын
The Type 92 was *literally* heavy...
@shadowalker1776
@shadowalker1776 9 жыл бұрын
I always learn something new from your videos.
@diegovergara1959
@diegovergara1959 4 жыл бұрын
That why the Japanese engineering is that good, they are almost 100years in the future!
@MrCaveKong7665
@MrCaveKong7665 9 жыл бұрын
ive got a feed strip for this HMG. original cardboard and all. grandpa just had it hanging in his reloading room
@tibornagy3408
@tibornagy3408 8 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they could use that bullet oiler mechanism to make poisoned rounds.
@tibornagy3408
@tibornagy3408 8 жыл бұрын
+ZMan1471 Yes a bullet is probably going to kill you anyway but if the gun user is a rookie you might just survive with a shot in the leg maybe (my great grand father was shot by a Russian machine gun with direct fire and only his leg got hit. It went right through bone and everything). That's not likely to stay in but the poison might burn away in the barrel so it would do nothing anyway. side note(on ingestion part):(Poison can kill without the victim eating it (poisoned darts?)) (side note 2: I was merely wondering whether it would work or not. Probably not...)
@j4ff4c3ks1
@j4ff4c3ks1 8 жыл бұрын
a funny idea as it is, it doesn't oil the bullets but the cartridges instead, so if you were to fill the reservoir with your poison of choce, after firing you'd have a pile of poisoned brass next to the gun and none leaving the barrel
@CruelestChris
@CruelestChris 6 жыл бұрын
Answer is no, if you tried that, even if you did somehow make it oil the bullets instead of the cartridges, you'd just end up with a coating of poison down the rifling and almost none of it in the target. By the time it's gone through the target's clothes, you've just hit them with a not-poisoned bullet.
@roadpanzir
@roadpanzir 7 жыл бұрын
What a well thought out gun-beautiful!
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