Type Z | Information Mastery

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[@CriticallySelected]

@james palmer That's a really interesting thought. There are some who believe that living forever wouldn't be such a good idea because eventually you would want it to end. But then there are some on the opposite end of the spectrum. I guess it would really depend from person to person. What do you think?

[@omnicide-gamerxiii4291]

This is seriously helpful for the stories i’m trying to write. Especially for the concept of a character that goes beyond Omnipotent abilities.

[@Ghost_7070]

That's Not possible, Nothing Can Go Beyond Omnipotent.

[@123Anwarshah]

What if the Multiverse theory comes true? How would the Information Mastery scale be continued beyond Type Z when a hypothetical civilization achieves Multiverse Travel?

[@CriticallySelected]

Well, in that case, we would have to look at Kardashev Type 5+ civilizations to make some comparisons. But as far as Carl Sagan was concerned, mastering the Universe is the absolute last level. What do you think?

[@123Anwarshah]

@@CriticallySelected Carl Sagan's classification is more .. "realistic" and practical compared to Kardashev's, but it didn't take into account the multiverse theory. Perhaps, similar to how the Kardashev scale was expanded beyond the originally mentioned Type 3, the scientists could further expand the Information Mastery scale as well.

[@pedromoura1446]

@@123Anwarshah well...by the point you know all the information of a single universe (ie. know all the possible configurations that the smallest particles that constitute it might achieve) you must, by definition, know all the possible iterations it can achieve. a civilization that would know all the information there is to know in a universe would also, then, know all there is to know in a multiverse since all of them are simply iterations of those same particles in different configurations. by that point its just a matter of time (or not given that they can manipulate mass and therefore time and space) until they know everything. so even if we assume theres enough particles in the universe to reach the largest number we have ever considered for mathematics (the googolplex, 10^100, which is already larger than the total number of subatomic particles existent in our universe and therefore would make it more information than what we can possibly store in its entirety), and taking that as a limit, then a civilization can reach at most 1 or 2 upper levels besides a type Z (10^62 and somewere below 10^124 bits of information) before capping out on the amount of information available in the whole omniverse as the multiverse can be defined by the sum of all the possible iterations of the known particles in a universe and the omniverse as the sum of all the possible iterations of the known particles in all multiverses at once. so Sagan wasnt that far off from the utmost limit (in fact...a type z civilization might be only milliseconds away from knowing everything, everywere, everytime, once they reach that level) even if you consider the existence of a multiverse and an omniverse as factual existences.

[@123Anwarshah]

@@pedromoura1446 Haha. You yourself have explained the contradiction of the answer you've explained. The googolplex takes into account the total subatomic particles present in the Universe.. "This" Universe. So, if the multiverse theory comes true, and a civilization can master the multiverse, then 10^100 is nowhere near the limit of Information storage possible.

[@pedromoura1446]

@@123Anwarshah no :P the googolplex is several times more than the amount of subatomic particles present in our universe. remember that only 10^31 would already give a civilization complete understanding over the plancks constant (which is to say they would be able to manipulate any form of quantum particle making them able to manipulate or at the very least understand space and time not as concepts but as variables.) by that point they would know every particle in the universe and therefore the only thing left for them would be to extend that level of knowledge to the behaviour of every single particle of the universe and once you understood all the possible iterations that every particle could ever take in this universe, for all intents and purposes you now know what has happened, is happening and will happen in every single multiverse since they are (in simple terms) iterations of this universe were those same particles ended up mixing and mashing in suble different ways leading to different outcomes and the omniverse is simply the sum of all those multiverses you now know. my intention was to say that assuming that the number of information on these particles caps at 10^100 (which is not. it's lower. because the total number of particles in the entire universe is lower. otherwise you'd have a paradox in which the whole universe would be unable to simulate itself with the number of particles it contains thus rendering its existence impossible.) therefore all you needed was to reach 10^100 bits by which point you'd be lord of the omniverse. what might be confusing is that i used the same scale Sagan was using and fit a Z+ and a Z++ civilizations on it by using his own metric but those 2 wouldnt have that much difference between themselves because information would cap at (an overestimated) 10^100 bits of information. in fact...it's more than likely that when you reached 10^62 or something around that number you'd already have all the knowledge of every move that every particle could ever make and therefore you would already know all the possible iterations that could possibly exist in the whole omniverse. hence what i said...Carl Sagan didnt miss by that much with his own scale since by the point a civilization reached Z type level they would already be totally capable of manipulating space and time and since all they needed by then is time to apply the calculations on every single particle in existence they could reach Z+ or a theoretical Z++ in a fraction of a second after becoming a Z type civilization, which for all intents and purposes, still makes a Z type civilization the ultimate level on his scale.

[@s1gmap175]

This status would literally be like Sandbox Mode in Video games

[@epicclips6623]

FINALLY!!!

[@CriticallySelected]

Hope you liked it! :)

[@davidwegert1328]

There are some indications that there exists a local multiverse of about 10^500 universes. That would put it at a level of about type 50. Beyond that there are speculations of a omniverse. These figures are still small compared to a googolplex (10^10^100) and beyond.

[@spencervance8484]

Source?

[@vinsmoke-d-sanji9575]

I WANT MORE! I WANT MORE!

[@CriticallySelected]

Ask and you shall receive! 😁

[@great-mighty9603]

@@CriticallySelected how’s the content coming along? It’s been half a year since your last video? Please don’t stop uploading videos.

[@chasethescientistsaturre5009]

Type z is definitely omniscient.

[@davidwegert1328]

What if we could harness planck length (10^-35M) Then the information stored in a cubic centimeter would be 10^105 bytes - way beyond type Z.

[@CriticallySelected]

Yup, absolutely! I feel like Carl Sagan was taking a very conservative approach with his scale and didn't want to speculate too much on crazy possibilities.

[@spencervance8484]

@@CriticallySelected 10^31 bits of unique data is conservative?

[@susuhlaing7497]

Type Z vs Type omega vs Type minus omega which is the most Advance civilization

[@allshades7991]

There is a theory that whatever we can think and imagine is present somewhere on other parallel universe or multiverse.

[@CriticallySelected]

Yeah, that is a very interesting idea. Perhaps we should make a video on it! 😇

[@frankwilliams4222]

@@CriticallySelected I really think y'all should do that like ASAP man that would be beyond awesome!!!!

[@ragnatouya5050]

Will seem like we got these far of understand . Question are we left over type 3 civilization?

[@Justin-tg7xn]

They live forever?

[@CriticallySelected]

Sure! They do have the option of immortality if they wanted.

[@asteromorphs1230]

What if the humanity go to another reality and learn it after reaching civilization z?

[@CriticallySelected]

That is a possibility. However, a Type Z is only a master of its own universe according to this scale. So if Humanity does go to other realities, then it would be beyond Type Z.

[@anabelcasas4577]

What’s next?

[@CriticallySelected]

Some more interesting stuff coming! :)

[@sakko666]

Time travel ?

[@CriticallySelected]

Well, Sagan never mentioned anything like this, but if you are saying time travel without the multiverse concept (so only travelling back and forth in the fourth dimension), then an argument could be made for time travel. If you don't know what I am talking about for the dimensions stuff, check out our video on higher dimensions!

[@l.light_9]

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[@CriticallySelected]

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[@gladiator7496]

Well Type Z civilization would probably know beyond XenoVerse FBI: Open up that was a government secret how did you know that all Omniverse exist inside XenoVerse

[@spencervance8484]

Huh. Several other scales have multiverse and even omniverse as well.

[@CriticallySelected]

You are absolutely right. But remember Carl Sagan based his assumption on the fact that no communication can be faster than light. Plus, he probably didn't know about the crazy multiverse theories and etc. of today, just my guess.

[@davidwegert1328]

@@CriticallySelected I think the multiple worlds theory came out of the Copenhargen Intepretation about the 1950's so it would be known in Carl Sagen's time. I think he showed what Authur C. Clarke called a failure of imagination

[@spencervance8484]

@@davidwegert1328 in fairness most people have a failure in imagination...and his scale is actually pretty mind bending already

[@spencervance8484]

@@CriticallySelected fair point

[@isaquemaldrylnesouzar-laen5642]

Iwould like to be a cotzen off a Type Z Civilisation.

[@aliusaho7537]

You forgot the last three letters of the alphabet. Å ä ö

[@morris7626]

😂😂😂

[@CriticallySelected]

lol

[@jacksongreenway]

Make type þ

[@haraldbull1558]

In conclusion I would say, the later parts of the scale feel very much forced to hit the number of all letters of the alphabet. In reality many of the later stages will happen within short moments from each other and are not millions of years apart. Also I think in reality there will not be individual minds anywhere pretty early in the scale. The believe, that individual minds will survive cosmic evolution of a civilization shows Sagen's old fashioned view on this matter. That also can be said for alien encounters, wich would Happen later in the scale and the ultimate expansion of a civilization itself, that in reality wont bring benefits to it. After realisation of the universes nature, Id assume, civilizations bound to logic will end Expansion and Stop functioning, since there is not any information or real accomplishement to reach any longer.

[@nininghasanah2177]

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[@kevinken2576]

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