TypeScript Origins: The Documentary

[@JuanMoisesTorrijos]

"I could probably turn up to work drunk, and still code pretty good." -Matt Pocock. What a line! 😅

[@jhonyortiz5]

I want to see a vscode documentary

[@KeyboardStories]

Yuppp we were thinking the exact same thing 😛

[@alexandergunning4348]

Gross

[@DaviAreias]

What if the guys who made vscode actually use vim 😂

[@name_surname_1337]

@@DaviAreiasdeveloped vscode using webstorm

[@yogasujewfq08]

Upvote

[@flashjpr]

Can we all take a moment to appreciate that this documentary popped on a 12.4k (and I'm sure the count will climb fast) YT account, and not some official large tech co handle? Well done !!

[@kamel3d]

It is not good enough looks like it was filmed on potato just look to viewJS documentary

[@ArnoldsKtm]

@@kamel3d what are you going on about

[@aram5642]

I might be wrong, but I can't beat this impression that I have just watched a 70+ min long film about TypeScript without a single mention of tsconfig. Correct me if I missed that. ;-)

[@burningdog2]

Have you tried changing your .editorconfig settings and watching it again?

[@andrewmanyore9913]

As someone who made the switch from game dev to web dev. I really appreciate the work done by the typescript team and angular team. The switch was such a breeze.

[@InarusLynx]

I remember being in my C++ w/ data's structures class in 2018 and my professor showing us Sublime. I was like "oh that's cool, let me check out some other tools." Then I stumbled upon vscode and python. Everyone was hyping them and I went "sure I'll check this out." I was instantly impressed with Vscode. I never looked back. Now that I'm getting heavily into Next.js, I'm very happy the more I learn about Typescript and the feedback I get without even running the code. Reminds me when I'd debug C++ back in 2018, having the ability to have so much feedback on my code.

[@devprocedure]

SO YOU SWITCHED TO WEB WORLD? I do NOT see "real-world" problem being solved by using TypeScript. All I see are silly examples of a "function that adds or divides 2 numbers' to justify "type checking". e.g., Who writes a function just to do basic math???? Next, developers are testing (aka runtime) their code LINE-BY-LINE anyway, so "compile-time" checking isn't all that beneficial in saving a developer time coding. In other words, TypeScript adds a layer of complexity that doesn't have that much benefit to JavaScript world. NEWS FLASH: 1. Most data on the Client Side are STRINGS anyway. 2. NUMBERS and DATES are already validated in the client's browser anyway. 3. And YES, you are passing data for a KNOWN REASON. So you have a pretty good idea what is to be expected. And those to say you don't OR say you haven't worked with a large code base are justifying passing parameters that you have NO CLUE in what you are passing? If so, that is a sneaky form of "job security". LOL. ADDENDUM: > You're passing it for a reason so will usually know what it is in the object at least type-wise. -ksh1997 "If you don’t see the importance then it might be because you have never been in a large project " Are you saying the name of the person passed in the parameter is too vague or misnamed? Or we should have NO CLUE what should be coming from that parameter? And that includes those of you who worked on a large code base as those of you who have, should have well-chosen names for parameters that describe what data is coming through. If so, why not give examples of "vague parameter variable names" that TypeScript solves in the REAL WORLD?

[@zb2747]

Documentaries like these remind me that there is great man power behind the tools (we) developers use everyday. Much respect to Microsoft and those who helped build Typescript.

[@JeyPeyy]

I don't think it can be overstated how important Satya Nadella's approach to the CEO role has been for Microsoft. Just a few more years of Ballmer and I believe MS would have been toast.

[@LuisRodge]

u think

[@mrrolandlawrence]

@@LuisRodge they would still be selling only 2 products - windows & office. the internet was not really steves thing.

[@saadhabashneh5587]

​@@LuisRodgehe thinks

[@ryanleemartin7758]

It may have helped bring about a better world if Ballmer ran the company into the dirt.

[@omri9325]

​@@ryanleemartin7758 It would mean apple get's to rise higher, and we don't want that ever

[@DavidsKanal]

Thoroughly enjoyed this documentary, gave me great insights into the development of TypeScript and its grandiose effect on web development and the open source culture. One suggestion: When a novel concept is being talked about, be it structural typing, decorators, or Flow, would be cool to pair the interview with a visual depiction on the screen. Makes it easier to follow for those who don't know those things by heart.

[@codeaperture]

Great documentary. As a Golang developer, TypeScript solves problems I don't have in ways I don't like. But am happy that it exists, and DHH loves type gymnastics too, for obvious reasons.

[@AqgvP07r-hq3vu]

This documentary is truly epic. Even after a year, I find myself coming back to watch it repeatedly. Although I no longer use TypeScript, the legacy and innovation of the TypeScript team-and the brilliance of the documentary team-will undoubtedly resonate through future generations of the software industry.

[@dopetag]

That is sick! Keep up the good work. Thanks Microsoft for VSCode and Typescript!

[@MicroUrb]

Yes indeed, Microsoft did good with VS Code and TypeScript, but folks thats no reason to drop Slack for Teams, it doesn't mean you take every single Microsoft product into your life now. Kudos once again though for VS Code and TypeScript, I live and breathe these tools everyday...even...now.

[@siya.abc123]

We all appreciate the efforts of the Typescript team

[@yt.neerajkumar]

🔥 Big shoutout to the incredible TypeScript Team and our amazing open-source developers! 🙌 Your dedication and hard work are changing the game. Much love and respect to all of you! Let's keep pushing the boundaries together! 💪❤ #TypeScript #OpenSourceRockstars

[@loucyx]

I saw that conference in October 2012, and I've been using TypeScript since then. This was great to see. Thanks for making this documentary! 💖

[@MohamedMansour]

Really great vid! I remember when I first used TypeScript in 2012, I was in the Bing Team as a junior engineer and i just updated a new build step to include TypeScript cause I wanted to use it since the webapp was getting complex. I eventually helped all Bing teams to migrate to TypeScript, very nice seeing everyone jump on the same boat.

[@JEsterCW]

and another one *As soon as you will start understanding typescript you will stop hating it. This is exactly the moment when you will start to fall in love with this approach and see a new possibilities and adjustments to your workflow that will allow you to work more comfortably. I used to be a hater of typescript, but I wasn't even coding in javascript back then and when I decided to try it out and started to understand it, I just fell in love and never went back to plain javascript. The fact that you can have unions, with autocompletions that you can structure your data, its incredibly powerful*

[@DominikZogg]

Thanks for Typescript and VSCode from a long-term Linux desktop user

[@wasashisanbaka123456]

I like this video a lot. The constant hand-gesturing present throughout the entirety of the video totally didn't mess with me at all. And my absolute favorite engineer ever, Shaundai, does an absolutely fantabulous job elucidating the ubiquitous nature of TypeScript in contemporary frameworks and necessity of a good ecosystem for a technology to thrive! Her portion was definitely my favorite in the whole video, 11/10!!

[@rogersanctos]

Most of tools I can use those days came from this new age Microsoft. Most of them were like inaccessible before there. A lot of things were harder to accomplish. Not only languages, language supersets, IDEs, frameworks, Language Server protocols (LSP) and their already done language servers made my life, and I think the life of a lot of programmers, a way better. That's why I am so grateful to everybody who helped this day to come. Opensource, even nowadays being like a big companies war, evolved so much after that. And, eventually this philosophy will get better and better (so I hope).

[@sotopezoa]

I love TS, I used it in my job and in my personal codes. I enjoyed this documentary a lot! It was amazing to know a little more about the history of TS.

[@fisayoobilaja2960]

Okay. This video just made me develop more compassion/appreciation for Typescript. Thanks MS team for working on this!

[@풍월상신]

This was more interesting to me than anything else. Fantastic stories behind it all. I love TS, and now I love TS twice as much as I did 80 minutes ago!!!

[@padcom]

Mr Heilsberg made all the difference in my life. First with Turbo Pascal (which I also pirated), then with Delphi (which I also pirated) and then he finally made a product that I love that I don't have to steal! Thank you, sir! I wouldn't have been the developer I am Today if it wasn't for your creations. I owe you more than one.

[@iamdanajr]

Reallly a good doc that's make typescript even more understanding in the community...thanks to all the amazing person that bring this to the world. Thank u, thank u and thank u.

[@RobertKing]

I've uploaded an interview with JT who was the Senior Program Manager of Typescript :)

[@saravanan-subramanian]

Thank you for this remarkable documentary! Really enjoyed watching it!

[@stephenmyleshenriksen9535]

I like how dog food has become a verb as in "We don't just dog food our own language but we also dog food our own develoment environment." at 15:37 and this is understood to mean using your own product. Future etymologists will be amused.

[@vectoralphaSec]

Would you guys ever make a Django Documentary? Im just getting into Django and its amazing i really like it and would love to see a doc on it.

[@jmac217x]

Niall Crosby's outfit is perfect. what even is that jacket/sweater combo. Bravo sir

[@ceolter]

Delighted you noticed, one of my favourite tops, but my wife hates it!!

[@philipbond4088]

That's an incredibly well edited & solid video! I'm just starting my journey on learning front-end...that's a truly informative and inspiring documentary on the workings of open source innovation. Thanks!

[@giovannimh]

Well done! It's cool to see and hear the people involved.

[@anuraghazra4772]

This is amazzing! Love the stories.

[@GuilhermeLedes]

I'm so proud of this team ❤ for make it open source and how things happend inside Microsoft

[@tadejafirmanzajc7098]

Love the documentary and TypeScript ❤ awesome work ya'll! 💪🔥

[@kestasjk]

You know when a piece of technology just nails it.. I didnt realize typescript and vs code were so closely related, or that the in-browser office implementation was based off it, but it makes total sense that they are as they're all just crazy good

[@kestasjk]

Wow JetBrains is a sponsor.. :o .. that's like a documentary on chatgpt's origins sponsored by google

[@MichiganTypeScript]

It's like my whole life has been leading up to this moment.

[@FunctionGermany]

hi dimitri!

[@bishwajitjha8923]

Awesome to pick up the minds of the people behing TS magic and it's journey. Great documentry!

[@antoineweb1]

excellent documentary, glad I watched it. phenomenal tooling! and great people too

[@greatestuff]

Super Interesting. I can't believe this kind of video exists. Great work! I'm curious in another 10 years how that Typescript to Dart comparrison is going to age.

[@MarlonEnglemam]

I've been watching this amazed and mesmerized for over half an hour! I love how nerdy we all are lol

[@tekforge]

I love the storytelling techniques you use in your videos! It's very inspiring.

[@majorhumbert676]

Great documentary 25:25 That sound effect that is played each time an interviewee is introduced though...

[@DontFretBrett]

This was incredible. More docs on language and tool origins please!

[@felipezarco9502]

JavaScript is the best example of production code you cannot undo, and browsers are the real future operating systems. Therefore JavaScript is actually bound to grow. JavaScript everywhere!

[@fabsenk]

Wow, I love the interview format with well known people starting from 1:09:00. Well done 🚀🚀

[@jeffreyy6882]

This is sooo good, please do a documentary on C++ next

[@combinio9533]

I like MS team presented in the movie. 14:30 I can see they even have DENPOK in his dev-squad, cool!

[@frankfischer3403]

Great documentary featuring a lot of people that make Microsoft special. I had an open-source project in Microsoft before them and it was killed before it became too successful... in fact, I was nearly fired over it. I can absolutely comprehend what they are talking about.

[@ninoporcino5790]

I remember hating it at first and insisting on transpiling C# to JavaScript (do you remember the "Saltarelle" compiler?). Now absolutely love it.

[@Lyokou]

I don’t think it can be understated how important typescript is. I know a lot of people fight it, I had to fight my company at the time, but once it’s in place it makes it easy to collaborate and refactor code. I got it into a small high priority project with 12 week turn around time with 7 devs. And we delivered before the deadline and a lot of that was catching breaking merges and quick refactoring.

[@csy897]

I feel like a baby because I've only used ts and this is all I've known and expected. The only times I don't get this experience is when I have to use a repo that was badly written with anys and Function types everywhere

[@Yankzy]

I actually didn't want to use Typescript at first just because it was developed at MS, Good job to team making it truly OS.

[@kuncevicdev]

TS all the way front to back, yes! 🥳

[@micalevisk]

I bet DHH didn't like this video

[@snehanshuphukon728]

Came here from the rails documentary

[@centner813]

It's great to see how Microsoft evolved over the years and that it has so many smart people working for them producing tools that positively disrupt industry.

[@symtexxd]

Excellent documentary. I remember when Jonathan Schwartz tried to open source Sun software (starting with Solaris). I thought it was an excellent strategy and saw the power in it. Unfortunately for Sun it was too late. I'm glad to see Microsoft eventually understood what open source community was about.

[@Sch0LarY]

i know am late to the party, currently learning typescript for my latest project so far am loving it, I don't know why I hesitated for so long, it appears to me that ts is a very specific js. shout out to Microsoft for this gem.

[@shreyasjejurkar1233]

DevDiv orgs at Microsoft is one of the best org to work for. Incredible people with passion for developers and developer tooling...😇

[@pezo1919]

LOL! Just at the right time! Wondering if the DHH part was just an intro for this documentary ;D

[@vectorNull]

Keep going! These are the videos that inspire!!

[@jamesvodden5575]

Excellent work OfferZen

[@NataliaLiliano-cr5kz]

Keyboardstories 🔥

[@bhekumuzitshabalala]

Got the chance to watch this Documentary at Escape 2023 ❤

[@csy897]

I honestly don't think I could get over the enormous hump of transitioning to a software developer if it were not for ts and vs code.

[@mwebb-01]

Im glad i found this gem of a video. Thanks for putting out for us to enjoy. TS is one of my fav. I definatly learned a bit listening to these Genious's.

[@JeffryGonzalezHt]

Late to this, but it was really refreshing hearing people from Microsoft address directly the mistrust many of us had back around the time TypeScript was announced. My guess at the time was that TypeScript was just a way for Microsoft to keep Visual Studio relevant for people doing JavaScript. At the time, trying to do "plain" JS in Visual Studio was horrible - like worse than just raw dogging it with Notepad (or as was mentioned, SublimeText). It was really the introduction of the TypeScript language server that deserves special mention. Even today, pretty much every editor (even Vim!) works with TypeScript - and Visual Studio is still about the worst. ;)

[@GulshanurRahman]

The single best decision TypeScript made at the beginning, in my opinion, is to make the language and the tooling together. Those two aspects of TypeScript complement each other so much! And also, the VSCode obviously, to showcase that tooling aspect. One day, I wish the "language" part of TypeScript to be merged into JavaScript, and the tooling aspect to become invisible, within the editors and IDEs or bundlers. Then in the JS ecosystem, it will be invisible, but everywhere!

[@ivanjermakov]

I agree. TypeScript would not be this popular without it's novel LSP.

[@IsraelAgyemanPrempeh]

Amazing, you guys made JavaScript cool again

[@aguluman]

Next a documentary on FSharp with Don Syme

[@JoseGarcia-vr8mx]

Amazing documentary! Thank you for putting it together!

[@cthekoz]

It may say more than I want about me, but I loved this film. 👍

[@gabrielgonzalezjuarez4214]

An awesome and amazing documentary 👏🏽 I really appreciate so much this kind of content

[@duduromeroa]

❤Thaaaaaanks from Guayaquil, Ecuador

[@dotnetdevni]

VSCode has without a doubt been a triumph for Microsoft even haters of ms have been won over with vscode.

[@AqgvP07r-hq3vu]

Thank you so much for this amazing documentary. I almost cried.

[@jasonnares9634]

This is very insightful. Thanks TS team. 🙌🙌

[@4ndrs_dev]

Loved watching this, thank you so much

[@nemanjamilojevic7252]

At first, I despised it, but I’ve since learned to accept it, even when yells at me. It’s quite reminiscent of my dad.

[@DomskiPlays]

Haven't seen enough of the video to leave a good comment but I was here!

[@zhenghaohuang1533]

I think Satya Nadella was the Angel that dropped from the heavens to save Microsoft. Today, their products are freaking amazing! I've always been a Mac user since the Apple II. This year is the first time I moved to Microsoft. Terminal, is freaking amazing for developers. WSL....i'm flabbergasted.

[@StingSting844]

Huge congratulations to the typescript team. This documentary could have been a bit shorter

[@F0Xguy]

Disagree. Length is great and still I'd watch a longer one, for sure

[@StingSting844]

@@F0Xguy ok

[@salva-dev]

Thank you very much!!! I love your documentaries. Do you have a place to vote for ideas for next documentaries? My suggestions for the following ones: lit framework (by google) or the world of web components and their frameworks or one about elevently. Thanks again. 👍

[@miltonedwincobocortez8792]

Steve Lucco is by chance, the father of Michael Cera? . Jokes apart, I love the documentary, awesome!

[@nromancarcamo]

I admit it, I was a hater of TS when it came out, I couldn’t see me dealing with types, but hah! Guess whom defend it now? 🙌 Even nowadays when people want to drop TS 😂

[@dkrest1]

A good JavaScript developer won't hate on Typescript

[@StoianAtanasov]

It's amazing that nobody mentions AI. That is the future of programming, including TS

[@langenn]

This was really interesting, thank you for making this!

[@constantiner_me]

Amazing documentary! Thanks fo making it.

[@Whatthetrash]

2nd Best Typescript KZbinr. LOL

[@petarkolev6928]

Really interesting documentary! And it was really curious to find out one of the things that pushed ReactJS :)

[@peternguyen5611]

using vscode to create vscode.. mind blown!

[@devviz]

*1:05:35* this i think is a critical point, there's *typescript* the *syntax* and typescript the *tool* , not everybody consciously uses typescript syntaxes but everyone who writes javascript in visual studio code is using typescript; it's only natural because vscode is built with typescript.

[@rajenderkatkuri7642]

How about a documentary on Chrome's V8?

[@shanevercuil2447]

Can't wait, counting down...

[@nursenayeneredit7251]

The last parts was like advertisement but overall amazing documentary.

[@HLS6935]

Prerequisite to work at Microsoft: Speaking with your hands! I am dizzy from watching the hand dancing!

[@Fanaro]

A timeline visualization would have helped this doc a lot.

[@MobiusCoin]

Really wished DHH could've taken part in this documentary. He has a lot to say on types lol.

[@maxc9432]

We need a Angular documentary too

[@omri9325]

I like Theo's title, "2nd best typescript youtuber" 😂😂😂😂

[@mr.komp1004]

1:00:25 Ryan is talking about Typescript, but in the end: that's why everyone is using Deno I totally don't understand this.

[@jordymaryns4945]

Calling Theo the 2nd best Typescript KZbinr :D