Tyranid Detachment Review: Vanguard Onslaught (Masterclass Preview)

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[@adtr42]

the warriors don't gain stealth from the chameleonic enhancement, only the bearer gains stealth(full unit needs the ability for it to apply). the unit does get the benefit of cover

[@VanguardTactics]

That is correct, the enhancement gives the character stealth and the unit the benefit of cover :)

[@chrisreindl1649]

I swear this video was not locked behind the Members-only.... I pulled it up, started watching it and then came back to find it locked.... Is that right?

[@ttuck6768]

Is there a way to pay monthly for the classes? I’m trying to get my army painted I have 2000 pts of this detachment without meaning to. I can’t drop that much at once

[@VanguardTactics]

We are always looking for ways to make our courses more accessible, if you email [e-mail] we will see what we can do for you.

[@croataxeman2529]

How are the Tyranid Warriors set up mid field on at 28:00? Am I missing something?

[@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs]

It's not a bat rep you realise? They can move models however they want to show an example.....

[@croataxeman2529]

@@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs if that's the case, then ok, but they specifically were discussing deploying outside your own deployment zone. If there is a way to do that with warriors, I'd like to know.

[@AielWolf]

They're representing the 2 units of VRL's. If you waited 30 seconds, you'll hear them referred to as such. I imagine they didn't have the appropriate amount of models painted and, for the sake of it just being a tactical guide, they used models of similar size as stand-ins.

[@danhunter7839]

Why would you take a Hive Tyrant instead of a Winged Hive Tyrant which has the Vanguard Invader keyword?

[@davidmcminn1843]

what happens if both players are using neuronode? who re-deploys first?

[@VanguardTactics]

Start with the player going first

[@sxenogamermys9742]

wait so there is 2 hive tyrants? its not clear on the "list" part of the video, i heard a lot of talking about using one but is not clear. If there is 2 tyrants, is the winged using bioweapons or is he going melee

[@PayTheBillz]

This is what I'm talking about

[@jonathandavis4819]

Did I miss something? Wheres the list?

[@danhunter7839]

19:58: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqHFk4uYgceJa5Y

[@BrokenH350]

Q: "What are the weaknesses of the army? " A: "well, anything that shoots or fights .... Oh and anything that has any defense" Me : but they look cool...so .... Ima do it.

[@mattyorshin]

Same lol. This is my fav detachment. Other than the 10 monster 80 termagant list

[@patrickfleps9365]

Why do all ignore the Rules with "moving over Terrain Features with flying Units"???

[@glb190]

The gargoyles? They have the infantry keyword so they don't have to go over ruins.

[@davidkimball5222]

Without saying it I think you've come to the same conclusion as me: this is one of the weaker detachments in the codex.

[@PayTheBillz]

Sadly very situational it seems

[@davidkimball5222]

​@@PayTheBillzYep, fine for specific match ups casually. But 👎 for tournaments I would have thought

[@andydunn3835]

Great video lads. Hyped to play vanguard organisms this weekend at a hobby weekender.

[@LZRCuteR]

You rule. I need me more Box. More videos!

[@mkulchar]

What about mellee warriors. Adv n charge is good on them. And with the neurolictor buff and strat can be 1+hit and 1+to wound reroll ones

[@VanguardTactics]

it definitely has play!! I feel the ranged ones just offer something different in the fact they can shoot which can help in certain situations, but the melee ones are deffo viable!

[@steliospapakonstantinou2137]

@@VanguardTactics What about some Genstealers instead of melee warrriors ?

[@im2randomghgh]

The other big counter would be a guard artillery/infantry army. Cant hide your fragile units, and its hard to manoeuvre around an army with that mass. With regards to bully armies, genestealers are a great counter. Ten stealers with a broodlord can just about wipe Deathwing knights on the charge and recoup all of their points in one phase

[@ttuck6768]

Hey I love it okay

[@mjhsinclair]

Wait - have I missed it or are you not using Neurolictors?! I haven’t heard anyone else look at this detachment (or Nids in general post-Codex) and not use them prominently.

[@YaBoiSwiSSly]

Great video lads! 👏🏻

[@glb190]

Yeah since this video came out, the list is 5 pts over 2k. He stated giving the Winged Tyrant Chameleon but the caption said Stalker (which would make it 2k). Id rather dump Hunting Grounds and ensure one of the Primes have Chameleonic.

[@keithclark6724]

Where's the broodlord/genestealers at!!

[@VanguardTactics]

hiding ;)

[@TheSpectralFX]

This whole list is quite sketchy. It doesn't have enough staying power I feel. In a vacuum... sure, some of these thing look pretty on paper... But when compared to the mobilty and lethality of Eldars, The overwatch from Tau The high thoughness of any spacemarines variant And finally, and ironically enough, the board presence of the guards... You are on the back foot in every aspect. You are like a rules lawyer hoping the point system hands over a win while being nearly tabled every games... and that's too christmas land for me

[@mattyorshin]

Trygons are fantatic in Vanguard. I run two in my list. Instant turn one deep strike and charge. Great for taking out indirect units.

[@UnkaStunka]

Now if Tyranids actually could kill stuff it would be interesting for sure!

[@Methor8]

Really great video, lots to think about. I may have miss heard something, but i think this list may have been put together before the points increases as i think it comes in 200ish over now. The tyranofex and big warrior blobs are definitely interesting choices ill check out though.

[@iant193]

Opportunity

[@olawidell1916]

Very good video, thank you for you spririt of how to play the game

[@Jebzisere]

You mentioned that the Lictor in the centre of the DZ was to hold the objective marker in the DZ and that it has a 50mm base so placed in the centre of that Objective nobody could contest it deep striking because of the 12" exclusion zone rule the Lictor had. However, I'm sure that according to the rules you cannot place the Lictor actually on top of the Objective Marker when you end the move. I know it won't stop the denying the enemy if you move it to the side. I was made aware of this rule when I placed a Monolith on the objective marker to try and deny the secondary mission Area Denial during a game. I was informed it couldn't be on top of the Objective Marker. Just a thought. Was I told incorrect information.

[@chrisj9628]

The rule that stops you from putting units on top of objective markers was explicitly removed in the Leviathan GT pack months ago. So if you're playing the baseline core 10th rules, it's still in effect technically (though nobody at local stores I've seen uses it). At competitive events using the GT pack, you can put units on objective markers again just like in 9th.

[@mkulchar]

There is no rule u can't be on objective

[@Jebzisere]

Hi Chris, Thanks for the reply. I have only just started 40k in 10th edition and the guy was showing me the rules from the core rule book. He did mention that the tournament rules were different, like the first turn deep strike. He said that rules for general play should be done by the rule book and not tourny rules. This I have found seems to depend on who I play to be honest. I haven't really used tourney rules because I am still learning at the moment with no tourney participation expected just yet. Some times confusing so I always ask what rules we are playing before the game to be sure. Why do tourney change a core rule anyway?

[@Jebzisere]

Hi Mkulchar, page 58 core rule book hilighted, note section fourth note states it. This is what was pointed out to me.

[@mkulchar]

@@Jebzisere that rule was removed at the 1st faq.

[@steliospapakonstantinou2137]

What about the Winged Hive Tyrant. How to use him ?

[@DuelTubeChannel]

For my unerstanding of the detachment you can: run 3 of them to spam free stratagem AND spamming paroxism to nerf the number of attack of enemy units since it stacks OR playing some copies with the stealh enhancment or the stealker enhancement

[@Damnedlegion40k]

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[@CuteAssTiger]

I refuse

[@danielbishop6743]

You're not the boss of me.

[@jeromechee9293]

the latest balance sheet has also now said that infiltrators will not be usable with redeploy, so this will hit this detachment a little for move blocking shenanigans

[@Criiel]

Where do you see that? i've been trying to search through the different updates slates and i can't seem to find this

[@jeromechee9293]

@@Criiel strange I can't find it in Warhammer community too. But I'm pretty sure I saw something about it very recently... Please ignore me first and I will update again once I find the source. Apologies about that

[@Criiel]

Well no worries :) but it would cripple VG beyond belief if they do so

[@jeromechee9293]

drive.google.com/file/d/1ujk73R_oEglcItsOo42EyP_Rf49ZLINm/view World championship faq it seems

[@jeromechee9293]

@@Criiel I suppose you can don't follow the world champs faq for friendly games but that's the update I saw

[@drakebaker2769]

Heard Warriors mentioned a lot, but they don't have the Invader keywords do they?

[@PancakesGG]

They gain it when you add the prime to the unit

[@frankiephresh]

Winged Hive Tyrant does not give assault to units that is only on the walkrant grants assault with the onslaught aura, the Winged has the Paroxysm aura.

[@galling2052]

paraoxisim is not an aura