🤔 'TYSON FURY IS DEFINITELY THE BEST HEAVYWEIGHT OF THIS ERA'!!! 🤔

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HatmanStrikesBack

HatmanStrikesBack

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@ManiacInTheShed
@ManiacInTheShed 3 жыл бұрын
People need to just chill out and just enjoy the good fights we are having, no need to get emotionally attached to any fighter, that is just some batty boy mentality.
@libbad7419
@libbad7419 3 жыл бұрын
🤣 I trust your a Tyson fan
@ManiacInTheShed
@ManiacInTheShed 3 жыл бұрын
@@libbad7419 I'm boxing fan
@marlon811
@marlon811 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@tarharqataseti9261
@tarharqataseti9261 3 жыл бұрын
@@ManiacInTheShed great name
@bajanprince660
@bajanprince660 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🍻
@hype2beast119
@hype2beast119 3 жыл бұрын
I think Usyk is a dangerous fight for Tyson Fury because of his speed and footwork. I watch the Wilder vs Fury fight and Fury looks like he’s fighting in slow motion compared to Usyk lol
@naeemislam1105
@naeemislam1105 3 жыл бұрын
and usyks work rate and stamina, fury hasn't fought someone with the super high work rate and stamina of an usyk
@hype2beast119
@hype2beast119 3 жыл бұрын
@@naeemislam1105 agreed. Usyk is very dangerous and the people that think Fury is going to destroyed Usyk, they’re casual fans. Hardcore boxing fans know that Usyk style is hard for anyone.
@trevhib
@trevhib 3 жыл бұрын
Wilder is getting far too much credit for the third Fury fight. He was utterly dreadful in boxing terms. His incredible chin kept him in the fight but the way he was able to keep standing while effectively out was extremely suspect. It looked unnatural. Fury was fantastic the last 2 Wilder fights but his resume is beating Wlad and Wilder comprehensively. That is good but it needs more depth because Wilder has such a poor resume. Add Whyte and either Usyk or Joshua and Fury will then have fully earnt HOF status. But let's see those fights rather than making assumptions about how they might turn out.
@DrRepper
@DrRepper 3 жыл бұрын
Boxing fans are hilarious. If it was football, they'd want their team crowned league champions after winning the first two games of the season. "What's the point playing anyone else? It's obvious we're going to win!"
@DrWuDoc
@DrWuDoc 3 жыл бұрын
Hatman I don’t recall AJ fans saying he’s the best in this era. It was always resume comparisons with his contemporaries
@DrWuDoc
@DrWuDoc 3 жыл бұрын
Overall, though, your spot on about Wilder and Fury, who both have claimed to be the best. AJ has always been about the challenge to prove himself, I do agree though, psychologically and technically he’s deficient. I enjoyed this analysis.
@mikey-boy2519
@mikey-boy2519 3 жыл бұрын
Lies
@jbowdensdeliveryservice845
@jbowdensdeliveryservice845 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of channels do their best to be unbiased but Hatman is the only one who you can tell truly is
@darylwilson3987
@darylwilson3987 3 жыл бұрын
Beating an old Wlad in a snooze fest and sloppy Wilder three times does not make him the best in our era. However if he beats Usyk then you will have an argument..
@Dean-rd3se
@Dean-rd3se 3 жыл бұрын
AJ beat an even older Vlad and was supposedly the best thing since sliced bread.
@boxingp4pjack823
@boxingp4pjack823 3 жыл бұрын
Aj beat the great joseph parker and prince Charles martin and 42 yo wladimir...the best resumaay in boxing..🤣
@chrisfricker7025
@chrisfricker7025 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with calling fury the best is that he's faced the same guy 3 times in a row
@theguvnor3880
@theguvnor3880 3 жыл бұрын
Yes but Wilder isn't just anyone, he's either 2 or 3 in the world.
@chrisfricker7025
@chrisfricker7025 3 жыл бұрын
@@theguvnor3880 no he's not, stop playing up to that hype,
@bilalchoudhary2052
@bilalchoudhary2052 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisfricker7025 he is
@askip9304
@askip9304 3 жыл бұрын
@@bilalchoudhary2052 he simply isn't, he has one of the worst records of any HW champ, he dosnt have a single good name on his record
@thomassawford1102
@thomassawford1102 3 жыл бұрын
People are so reactionary after anyone wins a big fight its embarrassing, Fury has beaten 1 of the top 10 and now his cultish hardcore fanboys expect everyone else to accept he’s easily the best heavyweight of this generation and nobody comes close. Two wins against Wilder isn’t enough to declare him that.
@sha12pyhd8
@sha12pyhd8 3 жыл бұрын
@Llama Treee When Fury fought Klitscho he was in his prime as a champion apparently. When AJ fought him, just 18 months later, he was old and dusted. Fickle fans 😂
@jordanpeakofficial
@jordanpeakofficial 3 жыл бұрын
👌
@knockout4121
@knockout4121 3 жыл бұрын
@Llama Treee agree with everything but calling people idiots
@suzakux1179
@suzakux1179 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve notice when AJ doesn’t respect someone he beats them. For example: whyte, pulev, Martin. When AJ respects you he loses: Usyk, Ruiz. AJ needs to find that inner dog again
@FearedAudacity
@FearedAudacity 3 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily, Klitschko he almost bowed down and sucked him off there and then but he still knocked him out
@dsroa
@dsroa 3 жыл бұрын
AJ lost twice, who cares, losing is part of any sport. What causes this is peoples obsession with boxers maintaining there 0’s. If you fight quality opposition you’re bound to take some L’s. Some of the mostly highly regarded fighters have all taken losses. Fickle fans just jump onto the next bandwagon.
@SirAuron777
@SirAuron777 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, in my opinion, Mayweather ruined the sport in terms of a boxer being seen as a hype job or bum after taking a loss. In the UFC, fans don’t care about losses, they just love to watch great fights, this is how boxing needs to be
@thomassawford1102
@thomassawford1102 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly, it’s the Floyd fan culture now that exists within the community it’s pure cancer.
@dsroa
@dsroa 3 жыл бұрын
@@smokemeakipper1076 so why was lewis a freak punch and AJs not a freak punch? Bit of a double standard if you ask me. Schooled by a “cruiserweight”, you mean the former undisputed cruiserweight champion, who has an absolute wealth of experience from his amateur career and a stacked professional career? Losing to Usyk is nothing to be embarrassed about.
@god-nagi6221
@god-nagi6221 3 жыл бұрын
Facts just like mike he took l's and is still reguarded at one of the goats.
@naeemislam1105
@naeemislam1105 3 жыл бұрын
@@SirAuron777 of course he did. Ruined it permanently
@beez2673
@beez2673 3 жыл бұрын
If Fury can beat Whyte and then beat Usyk then I would say Fury has a case for best would love for him to face AJ regardless as well
@mattbryant96
@mattbryant96 3 жыл бұрын
Agree Hatman! So many people saying that we know who the greatest of this era is without any of them fighting each other! With all the great eras they all fought each other and all lost at some point but then you can go back and look over it and decide who's best. At this rate Fury is going to retire and leave question marks and what ifs!
@doubled364
@doubled364 3 жыл бұрын
Right now it's too early to call anyone the best of this heavyweight era, as we are just in the middle of it. Fury need to win two more matches to be called the best heavyweight of his era. He need to win against Joshua and Usyk. No matter what happens with the belts, this two showed they can be contenders for the throne and Fury need to proves he's the right one. And meanwhile if any new name pops out there he would have to beat him also. The last performance of Tyson wasn't his best and I hope that he figure out the things in his life and not fall into depression. His shape was obviously worse than the second fight and the plan wasn't quite there. I guess Tyson is from those kind of people that rise to the occasion and he needs real challenges to show the best side of himself. Let's hope the next fight will be the undisputed and after that defence against Joshua. If he wins those two and gain all the belts he's definitely the best of his era and probably one of the most talented ever!
@joestunnerboxing
@joestunnerboxing 3 жыл бұрын
I don't believe in making an assessment on any fighter's status within boxing history until their career is well over. When Lennox retired, he wasn't held in the same esteem as he is now, especially in the US. Career judgments are best made when the dust has long settled, cerebrally rather than with hysterical emotion.
@ryanyb3699
@ryanyb3699 3 жыл бұрын
ur probabaly right. same with how people where comparing liverpool to manunited greatest side just cus they won one prem. like just wait few years then assess
@NoName-od2qj
@NoName-od2qj 3 жыл бұрын
Solid video and I agree completely I’m also shocked most people didn’t know that about mayweather that was always one of my biggest complaints about him besides him not fighting Cotto (back then), margarito, clottey, cintron, Harris, Quintana, Paul Williams, etc
@Bad_Gnasher
@Bad_Gnasher 3 жыл бұрын
Fury still has a lot of work to do. Defeat Whyte and Usyk and then we can start having a serious conversation.
@esoxlucius7519
@esoxlucius7519 3 жыл бұрын
Whytes not in the conversation, he gets rocked and crumpled to tenessee and back by average over the hill payday fighters.
@Recoates
@Recoates 3 жыл бұрын
I think Joshua is damaged goods at this stage. Was hurt by every meaningful punch Usyk landed last time, and seems unwilling to go for broke with his big shots. For such a big powerful man, that was a pitiful performance against a natural cruiserweight. He looks a shadow of the man who fought Vladimir. To an extent I think the hype has contributed to his downfall. Whyte has already been KOd twice, and was saved by the bell against Parker. Wilder has been beat a couple times now, but still has the equalizer, and the heart of a champion. Not a Wilder fan but unlike AJ he lost like a gladiator. AJs 2 defeats were arguably both submissions. That leaves Fury and Usyk as the only 2 undefeated. I think Fury just mauls him to the point of exhaustion. Chisora had the right idea, but came up short, but is clearly not on Furys level.
@visiow2691
@visiow2691 3 жыл бұрын
Ridiculous comment
@Recoates
@Recoates 3 жыл бұрын
@@visiow2691 They are observations of things that actually happened. Not made up, pal.
@visiow2691
@visiow2691 3 жыл бұрын
@@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi Nothing fair about that comment. It’s nothing but a fury fanboys hatred for AJ assessment.
@Recoates
@Recoates 3 жыл бұрын
@@visiow2691 never said I hated anyone. I actually feel quite sad the way it's gone for AJ, or at least what hes become. I've been blocked from 3 US KZbin boxing channels in the past for defending him. Which makes it all the worse in the fact that they may have actually had a point when they said he was a manufactured champion. In regards to Fury, going back to when he was a mere prospect I honestly thought he was the second coming of Joe Bugner, at best. But was I ever wrong. Dont take it so personally.
@visiow2691
@visiow2691 3 жыл бұрын
@@Recoates How the hell can a Olympic gold medalist who only started boxing 4 years before achieving gold. And then become a heavyweight champion after only 16 fights. Takes on most of the top 10 fighters. Of which fury and wilder never did! And a 2 time heavyweight unified champion who collected the belts individually be a manufactured champion? He’s has the best resume in the division and you disrespect AJ like this. Your no AJ fan
@ironcurtainboxing
@ironcurtainboxing 3 жыл бұрын
Fury vs Whyte / AJ vs Usyk winners of both fights for the Undisputed.
@SirAuron777
@SirAuron777 3 жыл бұрын
Usyk is a beast, but I’m never doubting Fury again after he did what he said he was going to do, not once, but twice
@MrBendybruce
@MrBendybruce 3 жыл бұрын
Fury's win over Wilder has the psychological effect that it is easier for fans who were disappointed with the AJ Usyk result to diminish Usyk's achievement, and yet again, diminish his claim as a legitimate heavyweight champion. I notice a number of media have gone back to the basic idea that Fury is just too big for him. Well, maybe they are right, but we have to see them actually fight before we know whether it is true or not, and Usyk has earned the right to get that fight.
@DJwizz76
@DJwizz76 3 жыл бұрын
People call Pac the greatest all the time and he wasn't undisputed either. Mayweather accomplished far more in boxing than Fury did and his resume makes for a stronger argument about being the best of his era compared to Fury who only has 1 title defense.
@RW00096
@RW00096 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you in principle, but equally every fan is entitled to having an OPINION as to who is the best, based on what we have seen so far
@rjallday28
@rjallday28 3 жыл бұрын
My 2 Favorite Heavyweights(AJ & Wilder) are taking L's from left to right,I still remember when AJ vs WILDER was the biggest fight in boxing around 2018,how times have changed.
@samwilson2192
@samwilson2192 3 жыл бұрын
Well said. I wrote a column to this effect and received abuse from Fury fanboys! Hate the way people are declaring him the best and just dismissing the likes of Whyte, Joshua and Usyk. Boxing fans should want to see these fights. Fury has looked vulnerable plenty of times and is not unbeatable (some would say he's already lost to John McDermott). I would pick him to beat AJ and Whyte fairly comfortably, but Usyk is a toss-up for me.
@sleekvic9074
@sleekvic9074 3 жыл бұрын
This is good Hatman. But I don’t think AJ is in danger of losing to the top 15. Considering he lost to Usyk who’s the best technical boxer in the world. He could lose to the top 5 though.
@tomshaw7738
@tomshaw7738 3 жыл бұрын
I want to see bodysnatcher v fury. The build up would be incredible and even if fury goes in as a big favourite dillian would give him hell.
@jibbzytv468
@jibbzytv468 3 жыл бұрын
This video is pure facts
@BartAllen
@BartAllen 3 жыл бұрын
*Fury is the best fighter of his generation, but he made the fight harder than it should have and it's possibly one of his worst recent performances ~* So much smothering of his work inside the pocket, lack of head-movement, letting Wilder back into the fight, lack of feints (even the double-feint). Fury very well may have lost the fight had he fought Joshua or Usyk in the place of Wilder with a performance like that as he wasn't boxing to instruction, or perhaps there was an issue in camp -- Joshua's most likely crying that he didn't take the Fury fight in that case. I do hope this is a wakeup call, similar to what happened in the Wallin fight. It remains to be seen if Fury will be the same after taking shots like that ~ But I understand that he has issues out of the ring, among an almost 2 year period of inactivity since his last fight ~
@dantheman5607
@dantheman5607 3 жыл бұрын
You are one of the very few who have mentioned this. To me, despite being very entertaining, that fight was a sloppy mess and both fighters looked slow
@BartAllen
@BartAllen 3 жыл бұрын
@@dantheman5607 *Hey ^_^ I suggest listening to Ultra Tech, as he mentioned some of these points, too ~*
@rag9740
@rag9740 3 жыл бұрын
I dont believe he wouldve lost to Joshua based on that performance, tho he definetly would've lost if he fought Usyk
@NoName-eq5oy
@NoName-eq5oy 3 жыл бұрын
Joshua is not even in the discussion lol. Its Fury Usyk and Wilder for the top spot. And since Fury has beaten Wilder 3 times now, beating Usyk would be the last bit of proof.
@samwarrilow2881
@samwarrilow2881 3 жыл бұрын
How is Wilder in that top 3 but Joshua not even in the discussion? Joshua is far more accomplished then Wilder
@MrAdmvp
@MrAdmvp 3 жыл бұрын
How is Wilder in the discussion and Joshua isn’t. Oh because you need Wilder to be good for this Fury is the greatest narrative to mean anything
@NoName-eq5oy
@NoName-eq5oy 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrAdmvp cause joshua lost to a guy outside the top 10 and a cruiserweight.
@NoName-eq5oy
@NoName-eq5oy 3 жыл бұрын
@@samwarrilow2881 Wilder was in the discussion until saturday. its Fury vs Usyk only at this point.
@MrAdmvp
@MrAdmvp 3 жыл бұрын
@@NoName-eq5oy Ruiz is top 10 and Uysk is the greatest cruiserweight ever with a win over Michael Hunter who is a better heavyweight than anyone on Wilder's resume
@rainmanmainplan4421
@rainmanmainplan4421 3 жыл бұрын
Fury definitely made a fan out of me after the third fight, I'm a supporter of Joshua but fury has really grown on me as of late
@knockout4121
@knockout4121 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody beats Usyk. Mark my words!
@Smittyfromdaygo
@Smittyfromdaygo 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge Joshua fan and fell victim to being too emotionally involved in a fighter. After that Ruiz loss, I learned that lesson lol! But you are spot on, these guys gotta beat the best of the best to be considered, THE BEST!
@EvangelistAaron2024
@EvangelistAaron2024 3 жыл бұрын
Massive AJ fan here , but i agree with everything you said hatman , no one really knows who the best is just yet, we have to see how AJ responds to this . But i want to see usyk vs fury to , for all the marbles.
@mrt445
@mrt445 3 жыл бұрын
If Fury didn't go through his depression phase he would have fought Vital and Wlad for the 2nd time. Then we would have known for sure if he was the best of this era. Also we would have had these fights a long time ago if Wilder fought Joshua for 200 million in a fight he was likely to win. Instead he opted to lose 3 fights against Fury for less money.
@turyhumphrey7767
@turyhumphrey7767 3 жыл бұрын
Tyson fury is the best heavyweight as of right now. Tyson fury has defeated two of the longest reigning champions who dominated HW boxing for 17 years ( klitchsko and wilder,)
@brianogwell5061
@brianogwell5061 3 жыл бұрын
That's TWO people...😂
@muziboy7378
@muziboy7378 3 жыл бұрын
Yh klitschko Is deffo good one for the resume but Wilder that guy only fights bums and when he stepped up he got recked ✌️🤷‍♂️
@brianogwell5061
@brianogwell5061 3 жыл бұрын
@@muziboy7378 Fury also ducked Klichsko rematch let's not forget
@AlTarif
@AlTarif 3 жыл бұрын
I know Fury would be the favorite against Usyk but I just have a hunch Usyk beats him based off his style. We need to see this fight. Truly the best vs the best.
@citizengain
@citizengain 3 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@nativeamericancowboy5028
@nativeamericancowboy5028 3 жыл бұрын
Tyson fury is only included in with Uysk As being the best because of his size. If the heavyweight division was divided up into proper weight classes, Tyson fury would have to come down in weight, or fight men that are the same size as him. In all fairness, Uysk Should never need to even fight him.
@AlTarif
@AlTarif 3 жыл бұрын
@@nativeamericancowboy5028 The heavyweight division is the heavyweight division. Dividing it up ruins it.
@nativeamericancowboy5028
@nativeamericancowboy5028 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlTarif That's easy for you to say, because you're not that 200 pounder out there trying to win a heavyweight title. In fact, if you were a natural 200 - 210 pound fighter, what chance would you ever have of getting a major title? Let me answer that for you. 👌🏾 Zero
@AlTarif
@AlTarif 3 жыл бұрын
@@nativeamericancowboy5028 Then fight at Cruiserweight.
@bambamunlicensed9085
@bambamunlicensed9085 3 жыл бұрын
What ppl moaning about This man is telling it as it is 100%👏🙌
@ianpaul8881
@ianpaul8881 3 жыл бұрын
fury has made 1 title defence. can he really be called best of his era yet? he needs to fight all the other top guys in the division then we can all call him that but i say again, 1 title defence only!
@stevenmorganofficial5696
@stevenmorganofficial5696 3 жыл бұрын
He gotta clean out the top ten of the division first
@stevenmorganofficial5696
@stevenmorganofficial5696 3 жыл бұрын
@@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi I agree 💯
@augustineriley5582
@augustineriley5582 3 жыл бұрын
Great perspective Hatman, it NEEDED saying, and I'm speaking as a Fury fan, Peace.
@kraftwork01
@kraftwork01 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, you need to ask Lennox Lewis on the channel, get his thoughts on his own rebuilding phase and what he'd like to see from Joshua
@NBAP08
@NBAP08 3 жыл бұрын
It’s his first defence ffs
@chrisbrowne5829
@chrisbrowne5829 3 жыл бұрын
Every boxer has flaws. It's not a wrong to point them out either.
@scottysshizzle5676
@scottysshizzle5676 3 жыл бұрын
This is what I’ve been saying… way way too early to declare who’s the best in this era
@Sante1700
@Sante1700 3 жыл бұрын
AJ is just too respectful,humble and kind of shy of his nice and polite opponents,with Fury's mouth and disrespect,AJ will knock him today,the beast in AJ comes out when an opponent pisses him off
@MrAdmvp
@MrAdmvp 3 жыл бұрын
Team Fury already making reasons not to fight Whyte. "Tyson cant get up for that fight". Well, if that's the case, you aint that great then.
@Noisehead101
@Noisehead101 3 жыл бұрын
I actually think Fury v Usyk is a BIG fight. Obviously not what Fury v AJ would’ve been, but I think it’s a huge fight. Fury is red hot right now, Usyk has put himself on the map much more than he was by beating AJ. I think that fight does big numbers and money. People always say Fury doesn’t sell out stadiums in the UK, well because he’s barely fought here in years. His stock has risen massively in the UK over the last 3 years, I have no doubt he could shift tickets in large numbers against Usyk at this point.
@mightymeatball8535
@mightymeatball8535 3 жыл бұрын
Fury said the other day he could retire now and he's the greatest of his era, he said I've fought everybody and beaten them all, he hasn't fought joshua,whyte,ruiz,hunter,usyk,ortiz,parker,rivas, I can't believe how easy it is to manipulate people into believing everything you say,it was only a couple of years ago everyone fought joshua and wilder would smash fury, then 2 years later he can't be beaten🙄tyson,lewis and holmes lost to worse fighters than several off that list,it only takes 1 awkward style, 1 off night, or 1 lapse in concentration and it could be over, if you fight the top 10 each fight at some point you will lose,its the law of averages,fury is a tremendous fighter but he has been put down multiple times,hasn't faced several styles,has suffered bad cuts,has had a gift decision many years ago and has only fought 2 big name fighters,I'll say it again,he is an excellent fighter,maybe the best but he's not invincible and he has to prove he's the best,taking a loss doesn't mean he still can't be the best of his era either
@peterburrough9937
@peterburrough9937 3 жыл бұрын
Joshua has still beaten more top 10 fighters and had more title fights but a broken man
@reinhardschneider9186
@reinhardschneider9186 3 жыл бұрын
yet but 4 of them where 40 years old veterans. his resume is overrated. when he fights good fighters in their prime he loses or struggles.
@landamalome2077
@landamalome2077 3 жыл бұрын
@@reinhardschneider9186 all you do is man fan fury. Fury is an overrated coward. He beat a bum in wilder and would get smashed by elite fighters
@seguna9088
@seguna9088 3 жыл бұрын
Tyson Fury did a good job on Deontay Wilder and Wladimir Klitschko but it is very premature to be saying he's the best in his generation or be comparing him with all time great champions like Ali. Mind you, Fury has only defended his title once. The all time great champions defend their titles for at least 5 to 7 times. Tyson Fury has only defended his title once. We cannot assume he would beat the other guys just because he demolished Wilder - Remember, style make fight.
@seananih7609
@seananih7609 3 жыл бұрын
Fury stated before the 2nd Wilder fight that his goal is to knock everyone out going forward. He still has the technical skills but has VERY successfully incorporated Kronk style in his arsenal. IMO Usyk gets eaten but that would still be a great fight!
@nuca5104
@nuca5104 3 жыл бұрын
I can't tell because Wilder has no actual defense... it's very hard to guage how Fury's style would play out against guys that have a good defense.
@seananih7609
@seananih7609 3 жыл бұрын
@@nuca5104 I know what you mean, but my point is that it’s simply another tool he can use. His ring IQ is on par with Usyk’s IMO, he’s the most talented fighter his size AND we know he could eat Usyk’s punches. By no means is it impossible for Usyk to win, but I think it’s fairly objective Fury has a higher chance of winning.
@sheawager5008
@sheawager5008 3 жыл бұрын
The level of Usyk is so beyond Wilder imo. Wilder tough as nails but loads up every punch, is easy to read, but Wilder could still land on Fury, so imo 100% Usyk will land too, and repeatedly, imo it comes down to if that size difference is just too insurmountable. I thought the size difference might have been too much against AJ an was proved wrong, there was always a feeling to me that might beat AJ, I said I wouldn’t be shocked, but i didn’t expect it to actually happen my money was on an AJ ko. So again with Fury, I expect him to beat Usyk, an my money would be on Fury, but by no means going would I feel my money is safe, it Could be much closer than people think.
@Sweet-Science
@Sweet-Science 3 жыл бұрын
Fury is good not great and to be the best you got to beat the best. Fury has to beat AJ Usyk atleast before the best of his era to start entering the conversation.
@EliasVergsen
@EliasVergsen 3 жыл бұрын
You can have the opinion that Fury is the best. But to say he definitely is the best is rubbish. Realistically he and AJ beat an old faded Wlad who was 40 years old and Fury beat a guy who can't box in Wilder. He's not the best until he beats the winner of AJ/Usyk. Even then the potential for upset is beyond possible.
@EliasVergsen
@EliasVergsen 3 жыл бұрын
@Llama Treee he was out of the ring for 1 year 5 months with 2 camps that Fury pulled out of. It's not unusual for fighters to be out of the ring a year or so. Usyk and AJ have fought once a year for 3 years. Not having that excuse. Also Wlad was barely in this era. After Fury and AJ beat him he had 0 more fights. So technically Fury has only really beat one guy of this era and one guy on the tail end of the Klitschko era
@EliasVergsen
@EliasVergsen 3 жыл бұрын
​@Llama Treee They both beat an old faded Wlad who retired soon after. Jennings got absolutely obliterated by Ortiz months after Wlad looked a bit rusty against him. AJ beat unbeaten Martin, Wlad and then unbeaten Parker for the belts. Fury beat Wlad and refused the rematch. Then it's Chisora vs Pulev, Povetkin, Takam and Whyte. But again this Era Fury has only beaten Wilder. No one else. You can't live off that. Lennox, Ali and even Wlad beat everyone available to them.
@MrAdmvp
@MrAdmvp 3 жыл бұрын
AJ fanboys have now just become Fury fanboys, it’s pathetic
@HazzaSrz
@HazzaSrz 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. They’ll be on suicide watch when Usyk beats Fury too. Maybe they’ll move to Joyce or Whyte
@bradleyowusu9589
@bradleyowusu9589 3 жыл бұрын
@@HazzaSrz usyk won’t beat fury. I think fury will just be too much for him but you never know
@MrAdmvp
@MrAdmvp 3 жыл бұрын
@@bradleyowusu9589 Too much how? Just because he's bigger? Uysk would have taken that out of shape Fury to school
@1u5t1n
@1u5t1n 3 жыл бұрын
@@bradleyowusu9589 Fury didn't impress me last week. Something was off about him. Not that fast, not as sharp, nowhere near the guy who beat Klitschko.
@bradleyowusu9589
@bradleyowusu9589 3 жыл бұрын
@@1u5t1n obviously he was 248 when he fought Klitschko now he’s 277🤣. Wilder isn’t Klitschko he needed a different gameplan bro
@bh8365
@bh8365 3 жыл бұрын
It always seems odd that one fighter (whoever it may be), takes possibly years and multiple victories to earn multiple belts and then can lose them all to a challenger having no belts.
@bh8365
@bh8365 3 жыл бұрын
@Elijah S. Yes, good premise.
@osas201
@osas201 3 жыл бұрын
I’m recently starting learn how to not be too emotional invested in a fighter! I was so invested in wilder all these loses was just weighing on me so much! I couldn’t even go on any social media because of all the memes, I’ve only watch the second fight against fury once and probably will never watch this third fight again. I’m just going to look at fighters going forward as businessmen and fighters.
@nuca5104
@nuca5104 3 жыл бұрын
I'm the same... (I can't watch the AJ-Klitschko fight either) It's a double-edge sword - it feels great when your guy wins. But recognising Wilder as being a warrior and that the trolling is juvenile helps alleviate the 'sting' out of the loss.
@Mike-ts8bw
@Mike-ts8bw 3 жыл бұрын
Boxing is such a tricky sport, there's so many great heavyweights today and when you factor in the number of unnecessary rematches these days so the fact is that we aren't gonna see every single matchup but I've always felt the same - undisputed above all, that question mark has to go because that narrows everyone else's path, this means that one of the top guys will take a chance against another top guy to get a shot at the undisputed champion.
@DmReddd24
@DmReddd24 3 жыл бұрын
It makes no sense to me how people can say he’ll win anyway so it’s pointless. These are Fury fans saying they’d basically be happy if he never fought again. Surely you would wanna see him run through Usyk or Joshua if it’s that easy? Baffling
@mrpk646
@mrpk646 3 жыл бұрын
Fury Usyk Wilder AJ Hunter imo a dark horse Whyte Joyce Ruiz
@LOREandEXPLORE
@LOREandEXPLORE 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. 👍
@jackthompson8873
@jackthompson8873 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love Hatman to bring back his career reviews back when Furys done what a great video that would be looking back expecally the 2010-13 period when a lot of people felt Price was the better fighter and Haye was better and looking back at a lot of the Long Layoffs fury has done and how all of this techniques change every fight like when he tried southpaw against Martin Rogan for example
@MrAdmvp
@MrAdmvp 3 жыл бұрын
The funniest part is that Fury did actually duck Price back then. No doubt Fury is better obviously, but he legit threw a belt in the trash to avoid the fight haha
@jackthompson8873
@jackthompson8873 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrAdmvp yeah that's true during that time frame fury did dodge a few fights price adamek chagaev wach in fact I remember when he fought chisoria the 2nd time he actually could have Fought wilder there and than. instead
@learnwithesolarious
@learnwithesolarious 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, it was an amazing performance from Fury but it's premature to call him the best in the era until he fights and beats ALL other top fighters in the division.
@alexb292
@alexb292 3 жыл бұрын
I still think fury smothers his work a bit coming forward especially when he’s throwing power shots and his killer instinct isn’t great. He could have got wilder out of there earlier if he didn’t smother his work so much. However his skill set beats anybody else’s skill set and usyk will be his biggest challenge. I see him beating aj on points or potential late stoppage and I see him having a tough tricky fight with usyk and MAYBE winning a close points decision
@alexb292
@alexb292 3 жыл бұрын
@Llama Treee I think he’d stop Joshua but I could also see it going to points tbh. If he came in at 270 again then yeah I could completely see him blasting Joshua out
@thepubquiz3198
@thepubquiz3198 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge Fury fan. And although Fury beat Wilder at the weekend, I said straight away after the fight, that Fury was not at his best, particularly to start off with, that strong stiff jab wasn't being utilised as frequently, his footwork seemed slower, his very well calculated pressure in the second fight didn't seem as refined this time round, and for a lot of the fight his feints were non existent and his head movement was not as fluid. Although he did improve on all of these as the fight went on, almost as if the knockdown woke him up from some complacency. Personally I think with Fury on his A game, it will be quite unlikely for anyone else to beat him, but at the weekend, he showed us again, that even during a title fight, he can switch off, or not be as well prepared as perhaps he should of, and if he faces Usyk, AJ or Whyte etc, and they are on their A game, and Fury isn't, I would still pick Fury to be honest, but I would not be surprised in the slightest if he got beat, and of course anything can happen, you could very well see AJ or anyone else, not at his best, and Fury at his best, and one punch could very easily change everything. Yet i've thought for a while stylistically AJ would give Fury the most problems, but based on his confidence and performances at the moment, unless things change, I think there's a decent chance Fury could go undefeated.
@daviddfl887
@daviddfl887 3 жыл бұрын
Funny after that Wilder Fury trilogy I'm actually scared for AJ the most. Wilder will certainly have gained the respect of many other fighters even though he's so technically limited. I was in awe of how force that right hand rippled through Fury's body before he went down. Fury is a proper fighting man but he definitely has his flaws. Fury is my first choice but I do like Wilder and AJ and of the three only Fury seems to really know what he's doing and strange enough I'm expecting Wilder to rack up more wins (the losses will have taught him a lot and he'll really not have to fear anyone except Fury). AJ on the other hand just seems to be getting worse and it's really alarming at this point. He needs to get that dog back in him. Stop trying to be this people pleasing character and bring back the wickedness and spire in his style.
@ironcurtainboxing
@ironcurtainboxing 3 жыл бұрын
100% BANG ON THE MONEY HATMAN!!
@xzavierdub1467
@xzavierdub1467 3 жыл бұрын
Only until fury cleans up the division can he say he's the best in this era.
@odiekaleka6029
@odiekaleka6029 3 жыл бұрын
You are right👍👍👍
@jameseverall
@jameseverall 3 жыл бұрын
In an ideal world, if any division has all the belts between only 2 fighters, the undisputed unification fight should be enforced as a mandatory by all sanctioning bodies or the fighters be stripped if they refuse, and the belts go back into the mix for all the other contenders to pick up. Would stop all these divisions being held up by politics and posturing. Of course, this is boxing so that would be far to simple a solution
@danb7856
@danb7856 3 жыл бұрын
Boxing fans treat fighters like pokemon cards lol
@marseilleicon
@marseilleicon 3 жыл бұрын
Aj should've took more risk against uysk like wilder did with fury. You get ko you get ko bit go all out doing so. I don't see aj beating fury
@vt6653
@vt6653 3 жыл бұрын
The funniest part about Hatmans rants 😂 is that he always finds some fringe haters comments and then spends the next 15 minutes explaining to us how the rest of us are wrong even though we never disagreed with him. It's quite brilliant 😂
@mycommentwilltriggeryou9810
@mycommentwilltriggeryou9810 3 жыл бұрын
He’s talking to the people who were wrong not us…
@bigmatthews666
@bigmatthews666 3 жыл бұрын
@@mycommentwilltriggeryou9810 I agree i am not Triggered. But i agree you have never been wrong ever.
@allomentproof2573
@allomentproof2573 3 жыл бұрын
Wilder KO's AJ and Whyte. Probably in round 1. We now know this because we now know they are both chinny and there is no way they could avoid taking one shot from Wilder for 12 rounds.
@Kodreanu23
@Kodreanu23 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on!
@DEEDUBZ
@DEEDUBZ 3 жыл бұрын
GO ON HATMAN!!
@legendj4674
@legendj4674 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone getting carried away with fury alot of my friends think like this to so annoying! Fury is a great fighter but How good is wilder really? His best win is ortiz so many fights for fury and wilder that I would like to see Fury whyte must happen!
@dillianwhyte443
@dillianwhyte443 3 жыл бұрын
The whyte fight will tell us a lot. I think tyson fury will dominate whyte.
@leonmusa8641
@leonmusa8641 3 жыл бұрын
Fury is the best boxer of this era
@leonmusa8641
@leonmusa8641 3 жыл бұрын
@Elijah S. he will beat this two in the same night
@alexduran1967
@alexduran1967 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone's really fighting for second place at this point. I think Usyk will have a good showing against Fury, but he's got a lot of work to do. Aside from Fury and Usyk, I put Wilder in third. Pretty sure he can knock out everyone else who isn't named Tyson Fury.
@nativeamericancowboy5028
@nativeamericancowboy5028 3 жыл бұрын
That’s not fair to say that Wilder would knock out everybody except for Tyson fury. You don’t know that he would knock out Joe Joyce, Efi ajagbar, Joshua, Uysk etc..
@nativeamericancowboy5028
@nativeamericancowboy5028 3 жыл бұрын
You don’t know that he would knock out Andy Ruiz
@nativeamericancowboy5028
@nativeamericancowboy5028 3 жыл бұрын
Or Michael Hunter.
@benlowe578
@benlowe578 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely? No. Probably? Yes. He needs to fight more guys
@rainmanmainplan4421
@rainmanmainplan4421 3 жыл бұрын
Me personally want to see one guy defeat all comers and contenders while having all the belts because simply beating one guy that has the remainder of the belts for me that doesn't make them the best in any era they need to have them belts and face the other top guys then only then if that one fighter does that and beats all the top contenders in the division then we can declared them without a shadow of a doubt the best in this era.
@collier1915
@collier1915 3 жыл бұрын
Hey hatman ever thought about writing a book ? Your boxing knowledge appears pretty solid 👌 would be interesting to have an independent thinker writing about recent boxing history or even just transcripts of your many videos would be pretty cool ...any way I'd buy it 👍
@jeremyordaz
@jeremyordaz 3 жыл бұрын
Great video man. Personally I'd favor Fury but there's always that unpredictability with that guy. Something else to think about that very few people are talking about, Wilder was gassed at the end of round 2 and Fury couldn't put him away, I feel that Joshua and Usyk would have completely taken advantage of that. In short Usyks win over Joshua is a better win than Fury over Wilder a guy who he's already knocked out. We need these guys to fight each other. They are all 50/50 in their own way.
@awesomestaffordshirebullte6395
@awesomestaffordshirebullte6395 3 жыл бұрын
💯 percent get them all in the ring together Big T is the man right now and will stay that way untill beaten or and beats everyone else you can have your pick who you like ect but they all need to fight and prove it who the man is I still have big fury being the top dog when the smoke settles
@davidchester429
@davidchester429 3 жыл бұрын
I think usyk generally starts slowly but they all need to fight each other
@Rick_Riff
@Rick_Riff 3 жыл бұрын
AJ needs to wake up in the morning, yell at his wife, kick the dog, and flip off his neighbor. Hes too much of a gentleman, he's a kind soul and makes him soft in the ring.
@jordanpeakofficial
@jordanpeakofficial 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget professional boxing is a business first and a sport second and so much of being a good businessman is having excellent marketing a big reason since Floyd Mayweather that a 0 in the loss column of a fighters record has become such a big selling point for promoters to use even more so than having a championship belt when pretty much every single all time great has lost at some point in their career (muhammad ali, mike tyson, sugar ray robinson, tommy hearns, roberto duran, joe louis, roy jones jr, sugar ray leonard, willie pep etc). Fury is immense and either the best or the 2nd best heavyweight on the planet at present but until you have beaten all contenders in the top 3/5 you can’t truly call yourself the ‘best of a generation’. If he beats usyk, aj he can proudly make this claim as much as he wants. I personally want Fury to face Usyk next, i have no idea how that fight will go either. What a fun time it is to be a boxing fan
@theMannyfresh1
@theMannyfresh1 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on
@brettviddal1593
@brettviddal1593 3 жыл бұрын
Joshua needs to get back to the fighter he used to be. He changed his approach after realizing he couldn't KO Ruiz when Ruiz was taking huge punches, that have KO'd other opponents, and kept moving forward. He also needs to protect his head better. He has shown himself to be highly susceptible to punches to the right side of his head. Whyte wobbled him, Ruiz knocked him down and Usyk rocked him with punches to the same spot. Much like Whyte is susceptible to the uppercut.
@jball4650
@jball4650 3 жыл бұрын
Fury himself said that it was £75 Million down the drain when AJ lost, he wanted Joshua to win to get the huge payday rather than fighting Usyk who’s dangerous and wouldn’t be as big a payday for Fury
@LEFT11HAND11LEAD
@LEFT11HAND11LEAD 3 жыл бұрын
True
@leeturton9254
@leeturton9254 3 жыл бұрын
He could have made that fight happen in the summer but he didn't want it because he wasn't ready...all that talk last December was pure nonsense...and don't give me arbitration...he didn't even try and negotiate with wilder infact that fight was always happening and arum knew it warren knew it fury knew it... don't be surprised if you never see fury fight usyk Joshua or Whyte
@nuca5104
@nuca5104 3 жыл бұрын
Look at how many people thought Lomachenko would smash Teofimo... look at how many people thought AJ would beat Usyk... these upsets PROVE the fact that these top guys NEED to fight to prove they're the best.
@kinglouisxiii2650
@kinglouisxiii2650 3 жыл бұрын
The next few years will determine what the heavyweights are made of...will AJ keep be able to fulfill his ridiculous potential...will whyte be able to make it to the top...will usyk be able to dominate the heavyweight division despite his size...will fury stay mentally focused and fight big names...how much of a threat is ruiz..how effective will joyce be at this stage ect ect.
@reinhardschneider9186
@reinhardschneider9186 3 жыл бұрын
AJ ridiculous potential? he lacks many skills. will Whyte dominate the division? come one bro. get a grip.
@kinglouisxiii2650
@kinglouisxiii2650 3 жыл бұрын
@@reinhardschneider9186 so you don't recognize that an AJ with the right trainer and attitude could be lethal..the fact he's done as well as he has with his stiff amateur style and poor stamina shows that he's clearly got something about him but has the attributes to be much more. I didn't say anything about whyte dominating the division
@reinhardschneider9186
@reinhardschneider9186 3 жыл бұрын
@@kinglouisxiii2650 with the right attitude AJ can be very good. a topfighter yes. he still would have poor stamina and not be as technical as Fury and Usyk. also he is chinny. it will be very difficult to get over his mental issue's. maybe if he goes to the Us and changes his team. a new start.
@landamalome2077
@landamalome2077 3 жыл бұрын
@@reinhardschneider9186 fury is just above average. He beat the most unskilled heavyweight in history. Usyk and AJ will stop fury easily.
@reinhardschneider9186
@reinhardschneider9186 3 жыл бұрын
@@landamalome2077 that's delusional to think that anxious punch shy AJ can beats Fury. a moronic comment that nobody takes seriously. Fury would retire him you are making a fool of yourself. a scared fighter beats nobody.
@ChattinBoxingWYB
@ChattinBoxingWYB 3 жыл бұрын
If Fury beats Whyte, Usyk, AJ and Joyce, Fury is no doubt the best of the era! If Fury beats all those fighters and if he beats prospects such as Tony Yoka and Filip Hrgović with ease! I would dare put him over Lennox Lewis.
@EliteAstro_OfficialChannel
@EliteAstro_OfficialChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, Whyte does nothing for his legacy. If Fury beats the winner of Joshua vs Usyk That will make him the best of his Era. He already beat Klitchsko before Joshua did, and Wilder. If he beats Usyk or Joshua, he beat the best of his Era. End of story, and don't worry about the next generation. He doesn't have the competition that Lennox had, the 90's were the golden age of Heavyweights.
@robertphelps1574
@robertphelps1574 3 жыл бұрын
AJ should stop being nice before the fight and showing to much respect
@Kingshakazulu
@Kingshakazulu 3 жыл бұрын
lol that has no impact on how AJ fights, look at how manny was nice before fights, yet was a killer in the ring
@mansoor5385
@mansoor5385 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree, Fury is the best HW if this era of he’s able to defeat his mandatory and become undisputed by defeating the AJ vs Usyk winner. Can’t say he’s the best cause he defeated one HW almost everyone agrees was a limited fighter two times. Fury stopped Wilder last year and again this year, we need to see him do more than just defeat Wilder in order to crown him the best. If he’s undisputed, then there’s no dispute. Just like Teo can’t be the best at 135 until he takes Devin Haney’s WBC belt. The greats faced and defeated everyone, Ray Leonard didn’t just defeat Duran, he defeated Hearns and Hagler as well. Just imagine Ray defeating Duran and then everyone says he’s the best when there’s other top fighters out there wanting to fight him. Fury could be the best and he could prove it in just two fights.
@anwarburris2159
@anwarburris2159 3 жыл бұрын
My guy hatman aka the truth
@sha12pyhd8
@sha12pyhd8 3 жыл бұрын
Right now you would put him as number #1. However, he has only beat 2 good fighters - Wilder & Klitschko. Klitschko was 38 years old and it was a dull, boring and impressive win for Fury - but he was still 38 and on a decline. He also avoided the rematch. He has also beaten Wilder who is one of the worst “boxer” Heavyweight champions in history. He is bailed out by his right hand time and time again, but who has Wilder beat? A very old Luis Ortiz twice. For me, Fury has to beat Joshua / Whyte / Usyk to cement his legacy. Those are all huge fights, especially in monetary terms.
@danddee1299
@danddee1299 3 жыл бұрын
Fair play joshua and usyk, but what does beating WHyte prove?? Old men on their last legs have put whyte to sleep he's a bum. much better fighters out their than whyte
@sha12pyhd8
@sha12pyhd8 3 жыл бұрын
@@danddee1299 Who’s better than Whyte apart from Wilder, Joshua and Usyk? He also deserves his mandatory WBC title shot.
@etegganyi7576
@etegganyi7576 3 жыл бұрын
Fury is definitely NOT the best HW in this era he hasn't done enough yet to make that claim, he has only beat Wilder who majority of boxing fans think he is an average fighter with a right hand. If his trilogy wins were against Klistcko then maybe. This last fight was a great fight because they were both sloppy and average looking with a few moments of brilliance. Only thing that was elite was both mens chin and heart. AJ, Usyk and Whyte will give both men all sorts of problems and vice versa. They is no standout HW atm
@TheDjclockwise
@TheDjclockwise 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Any of the top 4 could sleep each other. IMO if whyte wasn't chinny I'd pick him over all of them atm based off his recent win streak
@antoniomosley9410
@antoniomosley9410 3 жыл бұрын
This.
@razemuzic7488
@razemuzic7488 3 жыл бұрын
This is the most honest and accurate opinion seen and I totally agree
@TheDjclockwise
@TheDjclockwise 3 жыл бұрын
@@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi he's got a better boxing brain than you think. How can you think hes stationary when he outboxed povetkin that needs to get on the inside to be effective? Same with Parker and the Latino guy. His best punch is his left hook and you can't deliver that from row Z against a good opponent yet he's done it consistently. He's slow but he makes up for it with a good jab and aa good ring IQ. If he boxed Usyk he wouldn't try to box him like AJ did, hes roughhouse him like he did to Parker. Also Fury imo got made to look good by a medicore boxer Wilder that hadn't been tested before by a legit fighter
@djcranium1210
@djcranium1210 3 жыл бұрын
Fury should fight Whyte Usyk 2x Joshua 2x maybe a couple of these names Joyce Dubois Sanchez Chisora goodbye fight.
@loiziproject2001
@loiziproject2001 3 жыл бұрын
fury will retire soon, that's too many for him
@isaacsantos9186
@isaacsantos9186 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what we want. What we’ll get will be a Tom Schwartz rematch
@FearedAudacity
@FearedAudacity 3 жыл бұрын
If he fights back-to-back fighters like that he’ll lose to at least one of them
@bobbycoolspeaks
@bobbycoolspeaks 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly.... Fury hasn't fought anyone and they wanna say he's the best
@RabidGerry
@RabidGerry 3 жыл бұрын
Hatman well said, he can't claim anything until he starts backing it up. He has not achieved anywhere near as much as Usyk at all, not even close.
@jamiebushby729
@jamiebushby729 3 жыл бұрын
Every single time aj or wilder loses there is always excuses and the blame goes to everyone else but them aj has got zero blame for his second defeat it's all the trainer people are saying aj got let down by his corner it's not the fact that aj has no heart and his trainer has to mentally get him through a fight
@24base
@24base 3 жыл бұрын
AJ has no heart but got up against klits. Has no hear but got up 4 times against ruiz. Make it make sense
@jamiebushby729
@jamiebushby729 3 жыл бұрын
@@24base did he or did he not quit against ruiz? Wladmir let aj of the hook because he couldn't pull the trigger because he was a 42 year old man and against usyk was embarrassing he had no heart to win that fight his trainer was having to give him therapy lessons in the corner to try motivate him
@24base
@24base 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamiebushby729 this is one of those messages that you have to question if a reply is even worth it. The ref stopped the fight whatever you chose to believe following that is what you want to believe. Fury only just fought Wlad 18 month prior so your comments should apply to him too. Aj was embarrassing against Usyk but that was down to confidence and poor tactics not heart. If he lacked as much heart as you want us to believe he would not have as much defences against top 10 opponents, compared to Fury or Wilder who fought the likes of Wallin and Stiverne.
@jamiebushby729
@jamiebushby729 3 жыл бұрын
@@24base fury beat wladmir in his backyard in wladmir comfort zone with the ref on his side don't compare aj beat a beaten guy that's all and do you really think aj lost to usyk because of tactics and confidence aj will never have the skill or will to beat usyk no matter who trains aj no matter how confident he is and i thought aj would chin usyk I just didn't realise how mentally fragile aj was and I didnt realise how much he lacks natural talent
@24base
@24base 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamiebushby729 Aj knocked Wlad out so ref talk is irrelevant. All the rest of the stuff you said gives no reason as to why Aj has no hear other than you don't believe he does. But the flaw in your argument is that AJ took the fight in the first place as he has with other top 10 opponents. I see you ignored the arguments against Wilder and Fury. Says it all.
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