Why Floyd Mayweather Jr IS NOT "The Best Ever"!!!

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HatmanStrikesBack

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@robertbold5807
@robertbold5807 6 жыл бұрын
Anyone who knows anything about boxing knows that Mayweather Jr. is not The Best Ever *[TBE]..* He's only deceiving himself!
@RayRay-qu4sj
@RayRay-qu4sj 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone who knows boxing knows mayweather is the best ever
@jakedooley7530
@jakedooley7530 5 жыл бұрын
@@RayRay-qu4sj hah that's a joke, Mayweather isn't half the boxer of Ali or sugar Ray Robinson
@RayRay-qu4sj
@RayRay-qu4sj 5 жыл бұрын
@@jakedooley7530 cant compare defeated boxers against undefeated boxers! Floyd had a longer career! Faught more champs! Held more belts! Never touched the canvas hes had the career every boxer wish they can have! Not too mention he faught 25 fights with two broken or fractured hands!! He was a injured boxer who still dominated!! What more do the man have too do??
@jakedooley7530
@jakedooley7530 5 жыл бұрын
@@RayRay-qu4sj Mayweather has a couple robbery wins, and he touched the canvas when he fought zab Judah, and Mayweather fought weak out of prime champions
@jakedooley7530
@jakedooley7530 5 жыл бұрын
@@RayRay-qu4sj sugar Ray fought way better competition than Floyd ever has
@M13Hitman
@M13Hitman 9 жыл бұрын
Floyd's fights will end boxing, boring as hell!
@waynemarshall8836
@waynemarshall8836 6 жыл бұрын
You got this spot on...
@RayRay-qu4sj
@RayRay-qu4sj 5 жыл бұрын
@@waynemarshall8836 bro watch mma if you wona see bums swing for the fences
@RayRay-qu4sj
@RayRay-qu4sj 5 жыл бұрын
@Daniel Gigante mma isn't the superior sport that's why they get paid much less🤣😂🤣😂
@theoodlesofthechickennugge5641
@theoodlesofthechickennugge5641 5 жыл бұрын
He's still 50-0
@202Chris
@202Chris 4 жыл бұрын
If you think Floyd is boring then you know nothing about boxing. Watching Floyd is Poetry his timing his defense his jab his counter punches his mastery on accuracy. You don’t understand boxing.
@navos2003
@navos2003 9 жыл бұрын
Hatman u droppd sum haymakers in this vid...undeniable facts, respect bruddah keep keepin it real....
@roarblast7332
@roarblast7332 8 жыл бұрын
I can understand why people think mayweather is TBE, and I even think he belongs in the discussion. But people always try to argue that his resume is super amazing. I just can't agree with that. A lot of the "champions" floyd beat would NEVER be champions back when there were less belts. I mean he beat a lot of good fighters, but not many great fighters. People always try to bring down Rocky Marciano by saying he fought in a weak era, but floyd isn't an exception to that. so if you're going to say marciano isn't one of the greatest for that reason.. you have to be fair and do the same with Floyd. Quantity doesn't magically trump quality.
@ChappyHova
@ChappyHova 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you Hatman! I've been saying this for ages and had this very argument this week but people can't get it into their heads! He doesn't have one single prime all time great fighter on his resume like so many before him have! I even believe that Manny Pacquiao has a better resume than Floyd.
@SwashbucklingPirate93
@SwashbucklingPirate93 9 жыл бұрын
***** thats stupid pacman fought most of his great wins after floyd and at a drained weight
@ChappyHova
@ChappyHova 9 жыл бұрын
MrXHughesyx People always say this as though Pacquiao wasn't already fighting future hall of famers in Marquez x2, Barrera x2, Morales x3.
@SwashbucklingPirate93
@SwashbucklingPirate93 9 жыл бұрын
***** great point, not knocking manny, but he became the manny pacquiao we perceive him to be today after de la hoya cotto and hatton wins, which were all very well timed by top rank. lastly i think his battles with marquez proves his struggle with boxing as he is more of a come forward gun slinger, if his opponents allow him to overwhelm them with punches he takes control
@scottwhite6184
@scottwhite6184 7 жыл бұрын
de le hoya. cotto. canelo.hatton. corrales.castillo.gatti.judah marquez.mosley.pacquiao. alvarez.maidana apart from these boxers your right mayweather as thought no one!!!!
@tommytemper
@tommytemper 6 жыл бұрын
David Chapman please tell me how the all time great status is given or acquired?
@josephmartinez9756
@josephmartinez9756 7 жыл бұрын
Broooooooo finally someone gets it !!
@202Chris
@202Chris 4 жыл бұрын
🤡🤡 if you belive this delusional. He’s talking about Heavyweights. Floyd isn’t even a heavyweight. Floyd has fought top competition for all his career has fought so many world champions. And has remained Undefeated his whole career 50-0 TBE 🐐
@mycommentwilltriggeryou9810
@mycommentwilltriggeryou9810 4 жыл бұрын
@@202Chris Floyd literally ducked top competition, it’s literally a fact 😪
@flare3854
@flare3854 3 жыл бұрын
@@202Chris legit he ducked them till they were out of their prime
@flare3854
@flare3854 3 жыл бұрын
@@202Chris being undefeated means u never fought the best or retired early🤡🤡🤡 and he clearly ducked pac man
@flare3854
@flare3854 3 жыл бұрын
@@202Chris pac man fought much more champions the floyd
@kiely4561
@kiely4561 9 жыл бұрын
i don't even think Floyd would have beaten Tommy Hearns let alone Leonard, or Robinson
@kiely4561
@kiely4561 9 жыл бұрын
***** i don't think Floyd would have fought Hagler, Floyds supremely skillful but he's not even a big welter weight, Hagler was a monster at middle weight, not to mention him being a southpaw and having a 3 inch reach advantage over Floyd, fighting Hagler would be equivalent to Floyd fighting GGG in the modern era, i just cant see Floyd taking that much of a risk
@sirdetmist3204
@sirdetmist3204 6 жыл бұрын
He would beat leonard. Floyds style is all wrong for leonard.
@sirdetmist3204
@sirdetmist3204 6 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHA nice delusion.
@davidfearon2772
@davidfearon2772 6 жыл бұрын
This is silly Floyd can only fight people that was in his era, there will never be a Sugar ray Leonard or Haggler and you asking him to fight younger fighters when he was nearly out of his prime. He moved up multiple weight classes and won belts doing it, that is world class.
@jimbombadill
@jimbombadill 6 жыл бұрын
duran would beat him
@enkimerlin3209
@enkimerlin3209 6 жыл бұрын
100 percent right Floyd was very political in who he fought, he fought people on the downside of their careers and easy belts. Paper champ at best.
@kylelowry1521
@kylelowry1521 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@deshawnstewart460
@deshawnstewart460 3 жыл бұрын
Like who?
@orca7775
@orca7775 3 жыл бұрын
@@deshawnstewart460 Arturo Gatti, RIP to him but he wasnt an all time great and he was a paper champ.
@deshawnstewart460
@deshawnstewart460 3 жыл бұрын
@@orca7775 what? He gotta be a all time great to end up in the hall of fame
@orca7775
@orca7775 3 жыл бұрын
@@deshawnstewart460 every time he stepped up to fight the elites he lost just look at pretty boy Oscar and their fights. Gatti had amazing heart and I have enjoyed his trilogy with Mickey ward. But let’s stop pretending he’s an all time great he’s not on the caliber as margarito, cotto and zyu. He was a paper champion
@SinisterSkyline
@SinisterSkyline 9 жыл бұрын
Hatman. Always setting the standard for KEEPING IT FUCKING REAL! I don't agree 100%, but I respect you and your take on things.
@HatmanStrikesBack
@HatmanStrikesBack 9 жыл бұрын
SinisterSkyline kind words bro, much appreciated.
@gcirc
@gcirc 9 жыл бұрын
Indeed he does sometimes you disagree but 99% he on point. Crazy talk about not being excited for the fight,because I fully agree I'm so demotivated for this fight not even close to hyped for this fight. I was super hyped for the froch groves but the is like meh cool,I'll defo watch it but. Moving on Floyd's meant to think he the best ever why would he think any different. I'm sure deep down he don't think that. They need you to on toe2toe.
@dUbLeA92
@dUbLeA92 9 жыл бұрын
HatmanStrikesBack Ray Leonard should be held in much higher esteem than Mayweather. Leonard is one of the greatest scalp collecters in boxing history. A resume full of HOF fighters
@zapataboxing861
@zapataboxing861 9 жыл бұрын
Aaron Dubles you're exactly right .srl is a higher level and conducts himself as a rolemodel
@carljuvy
@carljuvy 9 жыл бұрын
I can't believe Flomos actually believe Floyd is the Greatest. Maybe is his era but nowhere near as Muhammad Ali "The Greatest" or Sugar Ray. His display of skills are great but he shows lack of respect to fans or fighters. And his fans are annoying, not the non biased ones, the biased, annoying, says TBE, and 48-0, hates every non black boxer, racist knucklehead ones. Other than that, I'm fine. I bet 20,000 dollars that I wouldn't find Floyd higher than the Ali on ANY list. Aww.. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. I'm biased all right, but speaking the truth. There is really not much non biased Floyd fans. I've seen only a few but I guess most non biased aren't commenting. Oh yeah, if you say I don't like Floyd or blah blah blah. You're right. I hate his attitude. I'm also biased. But you know what? It's the boxing world. Mornin boxing world! Let's get ready to rumble!
@leonardoespiritu1866
@leonardoespiritu1866 7 жыл бұрын
10000000000000000% agreed!!!
@jakedooley7530
@jakedooley7530 5 жыл бұрын
I agree only blacks think Floyd is the best
@thelasthourgetready
@thelasthourgetready 9 жыл бұрын
Floyd is a fighter of immense talent and ability and I feel let down by him. His career lacks integrity. The whole Maypac debacle and constant excuses put me off. He has made some comments that great competitors should not make. He is the reason why Khan, Garcia, quillon and others are doing things in boxing that would have been unthinkable in the days of ali, hagler and hearns. I'm 100% sure he is only flighting Manny because the public Will not let him get away with it not because in his heart he really wants to. In my eyes he will go down not as tbe but as a fighter that never truly fulfilled his potential simply because he didn't fight his rival when he was supposed to but rather let a fighter he beat easily knock out his arch rival then allowed a b level fighter to test his rival to the limits and then made the fight happen......what an anti climax. He should have expressed his disappointment that Marquez and Bradley got there first.
@jayforeman5299
@jayforeman5299 9 жыл бұрын
This is how I well pretty much always remember Floyd. He fights JMM, who I personally think is the best name on his resume, but he does it at a weightclass JMM has never fought before and doesnt even attempt to make the weight on the contract, even though he wouldve already had that advantage and pretty much every other advantage a fighter can have over another and on top of that he doesnt ever look like he would ever KO JMM. I'll tell you right now that if you put a guy into the ring that is smaller, slower, older and at a weight class hes never fought at, ALL of these guys Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Leonard, Duran, Heans, Hagler are knocking that guy out. Thats Floyd for ya, hes really good, but the way he goes about fighting and building his resume is to take as little risk as possible, just like in his fights.
@Anthony-cl1ck
@Anthony-cl1ck 2 жыл бұрын
Been going through your archives.. great work Hatman. Always good to hear a different perspective.
@Stirlingsays
@Stirlingsays 9 жыл бұрын
Spot on......It's a shame that these words, grounded in reality, will probably never get to Mayweather's ears.......Because they should.
@Marvinhagler87
@Marvinhagler87 2 жыл бұрын
Looking back on the whole fight and hype now. @hatman you was spot on especially when you said boxing is bigger than 1 fight
@jamescollis7650
@jamescollis7650 6 жыл бұрын
Mayweather is the best boxing businessman ever, and also a great boxer. But does someone who was much more concerned with protecting his '0' and his earning potential than giving fans the fights they want to see have the right to be called the best ever? I don't think so
@wesleygunhammer7819
@wesleygunhammer7819 3 жыл бұрын
floyd mayweather is a legend in his own mind. He is NOT on the same level as the great Manny Pacquiao
@amosvasquez6266
@amosvasquez6266 2 жыл бұрын
We can't emphasize this enough
@Supreme-Mentalman
@Supreme-Mentalman 6 ай бұрын
You sound so different in these old videos.
@Austin4552
@Austin4552 22 күн бұрын
😂
@greenandred3748
@greenandred3748 3 жыл бұрын
TMT - The Medication Team TBE - Tests Being Evaded
@jonathanwynn4454
@jonathanwynn4454 4 жыл бұрын
Floyd never fights players in there prime
@leonardoespiritu1866
@leonardoespiritu1866 7 жыл бұрын
MAYWEATHER ONLY FOUGHT THOSE WHO HE KNEW HE COULD BEAT; HE IS A COWARD, A CHICKEN!!! THE FIRST TO THE HALL OF SHAME IS GAYWEATHER!!!
@jimmymcguire3191
@jimmymcguire3191 6 ай бұрын
Floyd is the Lefraud of boxing
@samuuluinavucu1246
@samuuluinavucu1246 3 жыл бұрын
U a 200% CORRECT. Thank u for highlighting the facts. What a blessing to have such kind of thinking capacity still exists today. Today, information is massaged like accounting figures to right the wrong.
@SnazzySneakers
@SnazzySneakers 6 жыл бұрын
Mayweather has one of the most protected records he picks his fights look at the Hatton fight his Dad over trained him
@deshawnstewart460
@deshawnstewart460 3 жыл бұрын
He's the A side he can pick and choose who ever he wants and he still beat champions and had toughs fights, you dudes are embarrassing in these comments
@saintcruzin3190
@saintcruzin3190 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Hatman. It's why I always try to tune in.....
@MultiGreat1
@MultiGreat1 9 жыл бұрын
I'd would say based on boxing ability that Floyd is the best ever, boxing ability ALONE. Saying he dodged Kostya Tszyu and fought Gatti instead is not true because Tszyu was fighting Hatton and had lost to Hatton on the same month. There is no point in taking on everyone who calls you out because that is not how boxing works these days, its about the money and if the fight will sell. Floyd ended up fighting Hatton who beat Kostya and beat him badly. The only real case that could be made is him fighting Shane Mosley too late and likewise with the Pacquiao fight taking too long.
@jamescarpenter6585
@jamescarpenter6585 6 жыл бұрын
Nah!… No way. Lack of knowledge or appreciation of past fighters... Floyd lost to Castillo
@hamboba4434
@hamboba4434 4 жыл бұрын
To Mayweather's credit, he decimated Canelo. Some will say Canelo wasn't experienced enough to take on Floyd at the time
@blaztoffsports9147
@blaztoffsports9147 3 жыл бұрын
Thats why he fought Canelo.Canelo was a baby at the time.
@deshawnstewart460
@deshawnstewart460 3 жыл бұрын
@@blaztoffsports9147 Canelo had 43 pro fights so canelo was well seasoned and A level elite he just wasnt on mayweathers level and after the mayweather fight Canelo was kicking as so dont try that he was to young excuse bull shyt dude
@mycommentwilltriggeryou9810
@mycommentwilltriggeryou9810 3 жыл бұрын
@@deshawnstewart460 No, Canelo was very young at the time and he had a fair level experience. But in those 43 fights, the level of opposition wasn’t the best. Canelo is in his prime right now. Good defense, great offensive, solid chin, elite level punching power, athletic, and is arguably PFP1# right now.
@deshawnstewart460
@deshawnstewart460 3 жыл бұрын
@@mycommentwilltriggeryou9810 no canelo been in his prime at a early age and you have no clue what type of fighters Canelo faced how is it that after mayweather beat him and started beating every fighter thats in front of him thats because he was in his prime young
@andrewmelton2686
@andrewmelton2686 3 жыл бұрын
@@deshawnstewart460 you’re saying Canelo was in his prime when he fought floyd ?
@camouflage873
@camouflage873 9 жыл бұрын
You're 100% correct Hatman, I've loved boxing for as long as i can remember and have a very unbiased view and i always give an honest assessment of a fighter like yourself, Floyd is technically very good of that there is no question but he's even better at picking fights. Two great fighters got into the ring last night but in my opinion despite the losses Manny has the greater cv and that's because he moved up the weights and took on the best giving weight,height and reach advantage against the likes of Morales which is what sets the great apart from the good. Kutgw H
@crzces7500
@crzces7500 7 жыл бұрын
It's too late for Mayweather to salvage a "Best Ever" rep. Maybe he could have, though I doubt it. He was so methodical in either not facing the best, or waiting until they were older, slower, and more "beaten" because they were fighting the best. He's Michael Nunn with no heart. Nunn was boring as heck, but he fought the toughest fighters available. I would have loved to have watched Ray Leonard vs Mayweather fight. Or Hagler. Or Pernell Whittaker in his prime. Thomas Hearns may have been the most attractive as he probably would have knocked him out in rd 1. He may not have had the best chin but he sure was not afraid to get hit, and I do not think Floyd could have knocked him out. Of course the no knockdown TKO against a man who could be out-pointed in most golden glove tournaments is silly. It is what it is. I feel for his kids. I know that he paid dozens of women millions to settle and not be the dad, but shoot, money or a dad? I'm not well-to-do by any means, but at my lowest financially when my wife had all our accounts transferred to her mother's name, had not given my rent check to the landlord for 2 months so when she left, I was essentially homeless. I was washing up at McDonald's every morning before work and sleeping in my car afterwards. If she would have offered me any amount of money to sign over parental rights to my son...well it would be pointless. That bugs me more than his record. The awful guy he is. He laughs and says "Yeah I gave her 2 million. She dances great. Nope that one ain't mine". All the paperwork and no paternity test crap he makes the girls sign, how is that even legal? Like I said, he is far from the best ever, and a relatively rotten man.
@cmbambafu7625
@cmbambafu7625 Жыл бұрын
I disagree as a Floyd fan. Most Floyd fans don't think he is TBE.
@emachines3447
@emachines3447 3 жыл бұрын
I cant believe i spent £20 on this absolute garbage of a fight.
@MrBabyMaddox
@MrBabyMaddox 9 жыл бұрын
Pacquiao already won this Era. He got the Fighter of the Decade award. He is the first and only 8-Division World Champion. The longest Top 10 Pound for Pound Fighter listed with 600+weeks and still counting. Manny beating an out-of-prime Mayweather doesn't mean anything. And Floyd beating an out-of-prime Pacquiao doesn't make him the best.
@Silentknight052
@Silentknight052 9 жыл бұрын
Honestly isn't pac resume more impressive than may?
@RayRay-qu4sj
@RayRay-qu4sj 5 жыл бұрын
No Floyd held more belts beat more champs
@b_de_silva
@b_de_silva 5 жыл бұрын
@Waui Boy Reyes nope it isnt, pacquiao lost to bums and doesnt have the amount good names as floyd do.
@jakedooley7530
@jakedooley7530 5 жыл бұрын
@@b_de_silva Floyd has a couple of robbery wins against 2 not great fighters so what's your point
@b_de_silva
@b_de_silva 5 жыл бұрын
@@jakedooley7530 a couple? He has 1 against castillo thats all
@jacobh7188
@jacobh7188 4 жыл бұрын
@@b_de_silva Actually apart from the Castillo fight, he has also lost to Maidaina twice and lost to a close decision to an out of shaped and out of primed De La Hoya.
@almodovar251
@almodovar251 7 жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100 percent this fight was boring and did not live up to its expectations. Mayweather is not the best ever. He has never been tested, like Tommy Hearns, Ray Leonard, Ray Robinson. Floyd is the best runner ever!
@chrisbennett606
@chrisbennett606 6 жыл бұрын
I give hatman props for this analysis only
@kevinb2844
@kevinb2844 4 жыл бұрын
You are right in every respect and your prediction before this “fight” was spot-on.
@Haplotype0
@Haplotype0 9 жыл бұрын
Wow, great vid. Couldn't have said it better!
@Amethyst_Friend
@Amethyst_Friend 4 жыл бұрын
Why is Hatman's accent so different here to his current videos?
@bigpopalapa.2219
@bigpopalapa.2219 6 жыл бұрын
He was one of the greatest. He is from a boxing family. I would say he was the best in the ring.look at the boxers he fought.he is undetfeated
@turbo8628
@turbo8628 5 жыл бұрын
Castillo beat him
@juanaraujo6106
@juanaraujo6106 2 жыл бұрын
Floyd fought fighters when they were old and slow. He was afraid of Antonio margarito. He fought a drained Canelo at a catch weight. Floyd was on his bicycle all night in a fight. Great job on how you viewed Floyd chicken weather
@leonardoespiritu1866
@leonardoespiritu1866 7 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO, MAN. KEEP 'EM GOING. KEEP TELLING THE TRUTH!!!
@thedjrichkid
@thedjrichkid 9 жыл бұрын
The reason Floyd hasn't fought someone who punches like foreman because there isn't anyone in his weight class that has that power.
@anironfistedwarrior7206
@anironfistedwarrior7206 9 жыл бұрын
Foreman outweighed Ali by 20pds...
@Mr1soldier1
@Mr1soldier1 9 жыл бұрын
The Richkid the reason the new boxers dont have the same competition is beacuse there is a big gap from the elite wich is the boxers that are state sponseret with peds, steroids to the rest off the boxers
@mrneotech
@mrneotech 9 жыл бұрын
The Richkid Are you serious so who is this guy: Keith Thurman??? A feather duster....Stop defending the professional dodger
@MrBabyMaddox
@MrBabyMaddox 9 жыл бұрын
neotech888 Pacquiao fought way better opposition than Floyd. And even Dela Hoya fought better opposition than Floyd. Dela Hoya fought everybody even after he became the PPV King of boxing. He fought a prime Genaro Hernandez, a prime Mosley, a prime Gatti, a prime Felix Trinidad, a prime Vargas, a prime Mayorga, a prime Mayweather and a prime Pacquiao. He even went up to middleweight to fight a prime Hopkins. Will Floyd do that to GGG? Hell no! Pacquiao is really a 135 pound fighter or 140 at this stage of is career. The fact that he campaign at 147 to find challenges is commendable. It's like Floyd campaigning at middleweight and taking on GGG.
@mrneotech
@mrneotech 9 жыл бұрын
neotech888 I agree with some of what you say, Pacquao is not a 135, or 140 in my opinion. And for me some of his fights were suspect, until he was callled out by Floyd for being on PED's. Suspect fights: Miguel Cotto Joshua Clottey Antonio Margarito Shane Mosley I think Pacquioa is a good figter, but Floyd is potentially better, but what's potential? Pacquiao certainly hasn't fought way better oppostion than Floyd The whole peoples champ thing Pacquiao has going on is cool, but for me, dude has no character (he's just happy that he's not broke). I do agree with Mayweather when he says Pacquioa was being groomed to rival him. I believe Bob Arum, is really annoyed with Floyd, and still can't believe he was smart enough to buy his way put of his contract. Floyds problem is that everyone sees how good he is potentially, so it frustrating to see him, fighting for money - but in the grand scheme of things who can blame him?
@chadangle1424
@chadangle1424 4 жыл бұрын
U can't B the best ever and win the decision but lose the fight
@kikodarnell3573
@kikodarnell3573 9 жыл бұрын
Nice channel, most neutral channel ive seen in the boxing community.
@5trezip23
@5trezip23 3 жыл бұрын
The thing that happened after Ali is a lot of people thought after seeing him talk himself up then destroy Liston and "shake up the world" they thought they just had to talk up themselves, forget walking the walk. But no As for the power (Foreman) point, hell no he didn't/wouldn't. He would have to fight like a Julian Jackson in comparison to match the feat. And would never Floyd attempt such.
@markflores2475
@markflores2475 2 жыл бұрын
Floyd was never ever truly in a 50/50 fight. Just analyze each matchup closely. Even when he fought Corrales. Corrales couldn’t even make 130lbs anymore just watch the very beginning of their fight and the HBO commentators talk about Corrales weight struggling issues.
@CharlesLe-thephotographer
@CharlesLe-thephotographer 9 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in your thoughts about what Forman recently said in an interview, that he feels Floyd Jr. is better pound for pound than either himself or Ali ever was.
@Mr1soldier1
@Mr1soldier1 9 жыл бұрын
Charles Le the reason the new boxers dont have the same competition is beacuse there is a big gap from the elite wich is the boxers that are state sponseret with peds, steroids to the rest off the boxers
@chrisbennett606
@chrisbennett606 6 жыл бұрын
Charles Le foreman is sheer sour grapes I take his better words and hard luck feelings with a pinch of salt his bitter sour comments warrants
@krushon3298
@krushon3298 3 жыл бұрын
ONLY ABOUT 10% THUMBs DOWN That about sums it up, smh! FACTS His fanboys can keep their Zero Hero....because of him these upcoming boxers are biting his style by holding on to a belt, not fighting, excuse after excuse, only fighting once a year maybe, cherry pickin, never fight out of their comfort zone, most come out of PBC and avoid each other, thanks Al Haymon. Even Paq Man has accomplished more than Lloyd
@matiusbond6052
@matiusbond6052 9 жыл бұрын
very good commentary
@synvaVal
@synvaVal 5 ай бұрын
A bunch of clowns and casuals here 😂
@mrkoolkevin
@mrkoolkevin 9 жыл бұрын
I've always found these "who's the greatest/who's the best" debates a bit silly. Just too hard to compare the skills and performances of fighters across weight classes and eras. That being said, I don't see why "quality of opposition" is suddenly the be all end all. Skills, talent, and quality of performance matter more to me.
@anUntouchable
@anUntouchable 9 жыл бұрын
Good analysis Hatman even though i disagree on some points. So how highly do you actually rate Floyd? Would you not even put him in top 10 all time?
@rachidclijmans7967
@rachidclijmans7967 3 жыл бұрын
Biggest nonsense i have ever seen i my live... comparing 240lb people with 140lb...
@5trezip23
@5trezip23 3 жыл бұрын
He did have some parallels to sugar ray though.
@RIAZZIG
@RIAZZIG 9 жыл бұрын
This fight don't excite me either! Mainly cos it's now a foregone conclusion IMO
@medricadu2808
@medricadu2808 6 жыл бұрын
Floyd Mayweather Jr should have fought kostazu
@bobibest89
@bobibest89 8 жыл бұрын
Very very well said!
@MrMofo4eva
@MrMofo4eva 6 жыл бұрын
You turned out to be 100000 percent correct looking back in hindsight
@maskedsage2871
@maskedsage2871 2 жыл бұрын
Ik this video is old but I disagree and wanna give some rebuttals. I think Floyd faced better competition on a regular than any of the fighters u listed. Sure they may have faced a fighter that was better than all or a fighter floyd fought but him facing better opponents regularly evens that out. U brought up the Ali Liston thing however that's literally because he was a heavyweight... so of course the power difference would be a thing of recognition. It's like me saying Ali never fought anyone as fast as Pacquiao. Like of course he didn't because he fought at heavyweight. However, Deigo corrales was the boogeyman at 135. Also, many people thought Floyd was over his head when he was fighting a younger stronger canelo. Another thing is the level of skill Floyd has faced. Floyd has faced more skilled fighters - his opponents were not flat footed like Alis, they used more angles, less predictable in the sense that they use different types of shots. Ali didn't go through the level of skill Mayweather did. If u shrunk someone like Foreman or Liston to Mayweathers weight class he literally wipes the floor with them because they are too flat footed and won't handle Floyd's IQ. Remeber Ali struggled against most top competition but Floyd easily beat all his top competition. Another major thing was the all comers point. Idk where the narrative came from that fighters like ray Leonard fought all comers. Maybe I think its enhanced by the lack of media or social media then but U should know Leonard didn't fight someone like Mike McCollum who was the top contender at that time.
@DealerD8vE
@DealerD8vE 2 жыл бұрын
Let me oblige on Hatman's behalf 😉 So it's unfair to compare the punching power of a heavyweight to that of a lighter fighter, just like you can't expect a heavyweight to match the speed of a Pacquiao. Funnily enough, Hatman just released a vid comparing Tyson Fury's posturing to Mayweather's and IIRC he does indeed mention that lighter fighters develop different skills than bigger guys... So perhaps you might be on to something. Alas, you go and mess things up by blasting Ali's opponents for being flat footed compared to lightweights. Contradict yourself much? Regarding dominance. Irrespective of power or skill sets, are you really trying to say that facing Canelo was as/more daunting a challenge as facing Liston or Foreman?! Brother please. But here's the kicker. Imagine if there was a heavyweight that did indeed possess the speed of lightweight, had amazing fight IQ plus charisma and courage in spades. Let's shrink him down like you suggest. With all that freakish ability now distilled into a smaller package, all the money printers going brrrr couldn't make Mayweather step into the ring to face him. Can you think of a suitable candidate for your shrink job? I know I can.
@maskedsage2871
@maskedsage2871 2 жыл бұрын
@@DealerD8vE you can be slow and not flat footed. Flat footed means u dont really use angles. Fury is slower than some flat footed lightweights but he isnt flat footed. So it's not a contradiction. They dont have to have the same level of risk, but they can be comparable lol. I'm not gonna buy into ur bs of trying to guilt trip someone. That's NOT an argument. This was an irrelevant hypothetical.
@DealerD8vE
@DealerD8vE 2 жыл бұрын
@@maskedsage2871 Indeed you can but flat footedness is more common in bigger fighters due to energy conservation and power hitting. So I maintain that in general, boxing styles/skill sets vary between weight categories. You can laugh it off but I would guess that most boxing aficionados would laugh at the the thought that Canelo at the time of fighting Mayweather could be considered to be as dangerous a prospect as facing Liston, Foreman or even Frazier. Remember, greatness is assessed by the caliber of the opponents a fighter defeats. And where did I guilt trip? Hypothetical? Perhaps if I mention "Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee" the penny with drop.
@maskedsage2871
@maskedsage2871 2 жыл бұрын
@@DealerD8vE Most boxing aficionados have their being. If we look at the facts it's that Floyd was 36 which is really old in boxing. Canelo was 23. Was younger stronger and bigger than Floyd. But Floyd didn't just barely beat him he easily beat him. This isnt a common thing in boxing.
@at2130
@at2130 2 жыл бұрын
I said the same thing about Diego Corrales.
@anironfistedwarrior7206
@anironfistedwarrior7206 9 жыл бұрын
Funny Hatman. I just posted a comment saying I dont see an A level fighter in his prime that Floyd has fought on his resume. I will be fair tho: If he beats Pac, I will give him his props n say hes the best right now because Pac IS an A level fighter even if hes past it... Off the topic Q: whats one mega fight right now that u would like to see over this one in May 2nd?
@Mr1soldier1
@Mr1soldier1 9 жыл бұрын
Lucky Nangnang the reason the new boxers dont have the same competition is beacuse there is a big gap from the elite wich is the boxers that are state sponseret with peds, steroids to the rest off the boxers
@anironfistedwarrior7206
@anironfistedwarrior7206 9 жыл бұрын
Mr1soldier1 yea maybe...
@pacopancho2103
@pacopancho2103 9 жыл бұрын
Danny Jacobs vs GGG....but even thats a second to May/pac
@anironfistedwarrior7206
@anironfistedwarrior7206 9 жыл бұрын
Paco Pancho Why do u want Jacobs hurt bro? Lol!
@pacopancho2103
@pacopancho2103 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah he's loose but who Lucky Nangnang else??..chocolate?..I mean @160
@retiredclassroomjoker447
@retiredclassroomjoker447 9 жыл бұрын
I reckon Paul Williams would have given Mayweather all sorts of problems. It's a shame what happened to him.
@retiredclassroomjoker447
@retiredclassroomjoker447 9 жыл бұрын
123 Quintana didn't end his boxing career, a motorcycle accident did. He still beat Martinez and Lara after that fight. Oh and he was 6'2, huge reach even for a welterweight which would have given Mayweather all kinds of problems and when you add his unique skillset to all of that.
@jimsmith7055
@jimsmith7055 8 жыл бұрын
Muhammad Ali was ten times the man floyd ever was he was a man of principal something may weather knows absolutely nothing about
@simeon8195
@simeon8195 6 жыл бұрын
Jim smith I 100% agree
@turbo8628
@turbo8628 5 жыл бұрын
Ali was a man of principal? Really?
@KexerHD
@KexerHD 13 күн бұрын
@@turbo8628 5 years late, but yeah he was
@predictingthefuture1
@predictingthefuture1 2 жыл бұрын
What fighters didn’t mayweather fight?
@chris425amp7
@chris425amp7 7 жыл бұрын
After Floyds latest rants about Ray this is a good video💯🎁
@rylojenk
@rylojenk 9 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only guy not excited about this fight
@RIAZZIG
@RIAZZIG 9 жыл бұрын
I think there is a case to say he is the best defensive fighter of all time - but, no, not the best ever - not even close imo
@Kodreanu23
@Kodreanu23 3 жыл бұрын
This video needs to be seen by so many people. Fans are praising this guy, but he so cherrypicked his opponents, it's not even funny
@5trezip23
@5trezip23 3 жыл бұрын
💯% boy this aged well man
@SeamusMcMichael
@SeamusMcMichael 8 жыл бұрын
Judah was a respectable champion in his day!
@thecirclemovement
@thecirclemovement 9 жыл бұрын
i get and agree on some of the points your making but if you want to be honest, how can we really gauge this..also most of the greats have lost to those that wouldn't be considered as the top 3 so its fair to say mayweather should of lost by now considering the level of competition he has faced, just food for thought.
@sulaymanabumalik6937
@sulaymanabumalik6937 9 жыл бұрын
MENACE A-KIN interesting comment, to me it's imposible to compare two fighters that didn't fight around the same weight classes (floyd never faced a guy with foreman's power like ali never faced a guy with judah's speed...) or didn't fight in the same era, how are u gonna compare a guy who fight 3 to 4 times a year with a guy that almost fought twice a month? all these debates on who's p4p the best ever is irrelevant, just give props to the ones who deserve it, there's too many all time greats to just pick one and said "he's the goat" imo
@thecirclemovement
@thecirclemovement 9 жыл бұрын
exactly, well said.
@attilathehun0
@attilathehun0 6 жыл бұрын
50-0 and the big names it don't get better than that. Mayweather's record speaks for it self. Floyd proved to be one of the greats if somebody thinks differently than they are blind. It ain't about fanboy stuff it's what he's accomplished.You don't have to like him, but it is not going to change where he fits into boxing history's elites. Whether he's the best ever or not is just a matter of opinion, but he did prove to be one of the greats.Comparing him to ali is silly nonsense. Different era and weight class.
@realsunni1732
@realsunni1732 5 жыл бұрын
Floyd fought the best but after their prime and was money orientated cherry picked made a lot of money etc very talented but a crafty promoter and businessman
@marcusharmon8389
@marcusharmon8389 6 жыл бұрын
I agree !
@peterlally
@peterlally 9 жыл бұрын
My best source for boxing is this KZbin channel, really appreciate the work you put in. It sickens me to hear all these more formal channels sucking up to Mayweather, lying about the great PPV fight "Brooks vs Gavin", former boxers breaking down fights as if they don't understand boxing, etc. I think Jim Lampley talks as much rubbish as Spencer Feron, we'd do well to be rid of most of the pundits. I don't really care about this fight either, but due to the way their fans' BS covers all boxing outlets, I'm affected. For that reason, plus my dislike for Mayweather as a person and my like for Pacman for his kindness to the less well-off, I hope Pacman beats him decisively, and that hopefully puts an end to the BS. Perhaps a loss would do Mayweather a favour?
@zapataboxing861
@zapataboxing861 9 жыл бұрын
Hatman you said nothing but truth although you're about to be attacked by flomonation once they find out you don't agree with floyd there god .solid points Liston was real competition real! With everyone of Floyd's fights theres been some kind of advantage or trickery I strongly believe that floydina is disrespectful for such comment .and not only that the problem with his fans is they wanna play the race game like if you're not black and you don't like Floyd its has nothing to do with his persona you dislike him cus he's black its getting pathetic I honestly want this to be over many fighters deserve the shine and spotlight that womenbeater is stealing from them
@life107familyfitnessboxing8
@life107familyfitnessboxing8 9 жыл бұрын
Ali is the greatest of all time.. He is the best ever
@mr.t658
@mr.t658 6 жыл бұрын
margarito wasnt the man at 147 judah was the undisputed champion but he lost to baldomir so floyd fought them bought so he deserves credit for that
@markflores2475
@markflores2475 3 жыл бұрын
Margarito had the WBO belt so how could Judah have been undisputed?
@mr.t658
@mr.t658 3 жыл бұрын
@@markflores2475 Wbo wasn’t major belt at that time
@hyacinthebernard8883
@hyacinthebernard8883 9 жыл бұрын
maywheathers responds to this would be ..... but i have 10 cars 10 houses and its about ppv fights
@MrAdmvp
@MrAdmvp 4 жыл бұрын
This is a pointless video. Anyone with a clue knows he isn't
@kylelowry1521
@kylelowry1521 4 жыл бұрын
Hell no the only one that is in the conversation is mike Tyson and my Muhammad Ali maybe George Forman and Sony
@thebestcountryintheworld6661
@thebestcountryintheworld6661 4 жыл бұрын
Mayweather will never be the greatest because.. too many hugging and running away in the boxing ring
@0311usmcveteran
@0311usmcveteran 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with this video 100%!.
@MegaGallimore
@MegaGallimore 9 жыл бұрын
I also agree floyd takes the easier option most of the time like this paquio fight it should of come years ago but floyd wouldn't fight a prime manny and he won't even fight a prime khan to this day.
@blackdigr
@blackdigr 9 жыл бұрын
Agreed there are so many fights Floyd could have taken against prime A level fighters but didn't. His resume is a scam.
@kylelowry1521
@kylelowry1521 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@deshawnstewart460
@deshawnstewart460 3 жыл бұрын
@@kylelowry1521 like who?
@Brownticket
@Brownticket 9 жыл бұрын
This video is on point EVERYTHING SAID ON THIS SAID VIDEO IS TRUE AND STRAIGHT FACTS 💯💯 AND ya im not hype for the maypac fight i just wanna get this 5 years too late fight out the way
@calumh1777
@calumh1777 9 жыл бұрын
"Denial is not just a river in Egypt! HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA
@r0bbyinchins
@r0bbyinchins 9 ай бұрын
Sorry floyd fans but marvin hagler, tommy hearns & sugay ray leonard. Would all heve beat your boy floyd quite easily!!!! And thats just a few of the name that would have wasted bloyds ass!!!!
@yamucha
@yamucha 6 жыл бұрын
Great vid and i agree when i heard the bs floyd pulled by draining canelo i stopped being a fan. U want a 154 belt take yo ass up to that weight class and win it. Draining a 154 to 152 was foul hell originally he wanted 147 for canelo smh. Only flomos will say he's the greatest.
@drrellelljackson65
@drrellelljackson65 6 жыл бұрын
I want to no why AJ is not fighting all comers like Mike Tyson this guys and his fans talking about resumes wile Wilder is a champion to, AJ, is talking About who has he fought he's trying to fight your as AJ, he will never get names under his belt if you don't fight him, this guy needs to ad AJ to this story about who he won't fight
@ericgeorge5483
@ericgeorge5483 6 жыл бұрын
Whoever said he was the best ever? Looking at his resume, he is not even top 20 p4p, let alone the best.
@johnsmith-wp7ws
@johnsmith-wp7ws 3 жыл бұрын
Pac man Is more of a legend then Mayweather they is a victory in defeat. Its called respect floyd doesn't have that respect even Tyson don't rate him
@matthewbromfield1112
@matthewbromfield1112 9 жыл бұрын
100 per cent agree with all of it
@boxingmonthly
@boxingmonthly 8 жыл бұрын
i been saying the same shit for yrs
@kWINZEY
@kWINZEY 9 жыл бұрын
At 4/5 am, I couldn't care less about this or any fight.....
@armsreach46
@armsreach46 7 жыл бұрын
All fighters maneuvered around certain fighters so what are you really saying. Research all boxers and then come back with some kind of real conclusion. All fighters believe they are the best until they have a loss. Would you say Rocky Marciano was the best ever (Boxing Records only.) or Mahumid Ali? Let it go, it's all opinionated.
@w7dawe335i
@w7dawe335i 4 жыл бұрын
First time I am not agree with you. What your saying not make sense at all. Dislike
@Thoopy76
@Thoopy76 5 жыл бұрын
Well said”!
@omarjhungoor2598
@omarjhungoor2598 2 жыл бұрын
Sugar ray Leonard Thomas hit herne and marvin hager and mahmud ali ann mike Tyson . All these fghters were best in my time . Mayweather jr. To me his nothing. And i 100% agree wtih you his not the fighter of all time.
@Thepiclp
@Thepiclp 4 жыл бұрын
Your all just hating on Floyd bc of his cockiness and trashtalking. He’s probably the most accomplished boxer off all time, the whole World wanted to see him lose but he faced adversity and perservered. He can’t control the opposition off his Era, although he beat the best Fighters there were to offer. Beating the best of ones Era is all a boxer can do, Floyd (other than past greats) did exactly that but without losing once. Just like the tyson ali debate comparing past and current fighters isn’t easy, hearns Robinson and leonard would have been very interesting fights but athletes become better overtime and Floyd might be the hardest working and most disciplined Fighter ever, he dedicated his life to the Sport and he earned the tbe title. You can’t write off the competition he faced. If you watch his exchanges in slowmo its hard to write off his skills. Disregarding weight Forman would receive a major whooping from Floyd due to his technical flaws
@reedemnweep6280
@reedemnweep6280 6 жыл бұрын
Y’all trippin how many times y’all say somebody can beat this man and you threw the remote at the tv get off his sack. He made whoever you thought could beat him look like a amateur.
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