Giving iPod the Respect Apple Didn’t

[@tzukima]

POV: You're Using an iPod in 2023 kzbin.info2K9J7wG2p-E?feature=share

[@Caffine_Kitsune]

Mini gang rise up

[@tzukima]

@@Caffine_Kitsune i love the mini that might be my favorite of them ll

[@Caffine_Kitsune]

@@tzukima yeag!

[@mhm35]

How much did this project set you back? Miss iPod Classic lol

[@tzukima]

@@mhm35 like $150, maybe less. it was pretty reasonable

[@Sonic6293]

I've always had a local music collection. Services like Pandora and Spotify just facilitate discovery. I'm a singles listener though, and I think that's what a lot of music streaming is geared towards.

[@AnthonyLongoria-Kun]

I miss turning my iPod to the side and seeing those cover arts as I choose a song to listen to

[@tzukima]

ipod touch cover flow?

[@AnthonyLongoria-Kun]

@@tzukima yeah that part

[@CrossRook]

I do love retrofitting older tech to more modern standards and/or compatibilities. my car is from 2005, so it's from that awkward phase where bluetooth or aux input weren't common but cassette decks were rare to find, and therefore doesn't have any native way to interact with pretty much anything but a CD. I installed a new head unit that allows for android auto or carplay and it's really quite a big quality of life improvement. sure it looks like a hacked-together mess but having a GPS and streaming music is pretty nice. in a similar vein, I've seen people add wireless charging coils to Nintendo Switches, using bluetooth dongles for ancient headphones, and then there's the wealth of upgrades available for Gameboys. hell even cfw for the PS3 and Vita probably count as adapting them to the current age. there's some cool projects to be done in this retrofitting space and I'm glad people are interested in maintaining, repairing, or improving what they already have (or more likely giving life to something they bought second-hand but I digress).

[@DrSwoose]

Watching this on an iPod touch 7

[@be3742]

What’s its latest iOS ?

[@Vuknovic_04]

@@be3742IOS 15.8.3

[@Carandtechlover]

@@be374215

[@newsuperbowserworld]

@@be3742iOS 15

[@1980syuppie]

@@be3742it’s atleast 15.2

[@chucktownattack]

Good shit brother. This was very zen and very respectful. Goodnight, iPod.

[@tim3172]

Very *Zune

[@NebulaHatesWatchdog]

I’ve got a late 2006 5th gen slim with a classic faceplate and a 3,000mah battery. It also has 256gb storage (1 sd card, I’m not sure why you’d use the quad for low capacity when the solo is cheaper and easier) and taptic. Really it’s to a point where it could be a modern product, the specs are more than enough for my everyday use. BTW, the scroll wheel is an issue with replacements, I’ve had a few with this issue. You’re better off buying refurbished ones that put new plastic on the old pcb. The only thing I’d say it’s missing is the diymod. Maybe wireless charging, but I hardly ever have to charge it anyways. You can retheme rockbox to look just like the stock software, and tons of other stuff. There’s hundreds of themes, I can’t imagine not using rockbox with your flac files just because the default theme is bad.

[@lysolan269]

The Quad is smaller and makes modding Thinner models w/ bigger batteries possible. Think people say it is basically required to use a Quad if you're putting like 3,000mah in a Thin model

[@NebulaHatesWatchdog]

@@lysolan269 works fine with my solo, idk.

[@emmarossignol4445]

As someone who tried desperately to get Rockbox as close as possible to the look of the stock Apple OS, it's just not the same. Nowadays if I were to consider jumping back into Rockbox I think the best usage is for someone who doesn't care about it mimicking the stock OS.

[@U2startThrowaway91]

Cool video! I love my iPod, thank you for doing it justice. FYI, Rockbox is very themable. There are themes like iRB_Video/Classic for imitating the original SW; and iRB_Modern/Interpod for an interface closer to the modern Apple Music app. The only thing that really took getting used to is the database export/imports and the clickwheel changes-- but I got used to them pretty fast. Plus, no iTunes is needed; you can load FLACs onto it, as if it were a USB drive.

[@homestar92]

So I understand why people had gripes with iTunes being required. I really do. But what I don't think people fully grasp is the things that iTunes can do that a drag and drop file browser-type experience can't. Smart playlists being the most obvious. But there is a single checkbox which is absolutely *critical* to me, and not even the open source iTunes alternatives support it. You can set a song to "Skip when shuffling". It's a godsend for interludes, outtakes or other such tracks that makes sense in the context of an album but NOT as an individual experience. Also, two features added with the release of the iPod shuffle: 1 - you can have it automatically downconvert your tracks to a lossy (or lower bitrate) format, which is helpful for lower-capacity iPods like a Shuffle or a nano. But another thing it can do is fill the device with randomly selected music until it is full, which is another amazing feature that works well for shuffles or nanos when your library is too big to fit.

[@NekoMichi]

That's a great modded iPod you've built! And yeah, the battery life with one of those upgraded batteries is pretty amazing. I remember testing a 7th gen with a similarly-sized battery as the one you used and it ran for 5 and a half days continuously.

[@WillM.]

I’ve been using iPods as my main music devices for over 2 years now and I’ve been enjoying music way more. I switch between a 3rd gen classic 15gb, custom 80gb 6th gen classic, and mini 1st gen

[@tzukima]

the mini is so based might be my favorite

[@EliteObsolete]

baller video

[@tzukima]

omg how did you find this so quickly??

[@EliteObsolete]

I love iPods

[@EveryTongue]

Bro you literally disrespected the shuffle. I met a guy who had 6 shuffles hanging in a necklace. He had his content color coded onto each iPod, jass, deephouse, podcasts, etc. iPod shuffle forces curation.

[@EveryTongue]

The one you chose was pretty sick looking though

[@tzukima]

bro had the infinity shuffles

[@deletethis5699]

@@tzukima 💀

[@mica7974]

Very well done video! I also rebuilt my own upgraded iPod from EOE, though I went for a less traditional transparent front and black backing. I actually had the same issues with backplate screw tolerances and my bottom plastic charging point bracket is now only held in by the other components pressing against it. The iPod is also great device for listening to music while working since it doesn’t have all the distractions of a cell phone.

[@tzukima]

thank you! funny enough, the 30-pin bracket was the one i was able to force the screws in lol

[@steebmachine]

this was a lot of fun to watch. and weirdly calming! your critiques of music streaming were spot on for me. (so tired of Spotify.) I can't wait to mod my own iPod.

[@tzukima]

thank you so much! hope you enjoy modding!

[@danielsmokesmids]

exact opposite for me. i will NEVER go back to an mp3 player. spotify is one of the most amazing services that everyone takes for granted

[@ninjanerdstudent6937]

Musicolet is the best modern way of listening to music organized the way it was meant to be. I get synchronized lyrics for all songs too.

[@memoriesmuseum2824]

IPOD DISCONTINUATION THATS THAT SHIT I DONT LIKE (bang bang)

[@tzukima]

algorithmic shuffle bitch i DONT LIKE

[@Arayadavido]

I like to use these kind of devices to listen to music instead of my phone. I never had an Ipod, but I often use a walkman. And man the experience is greatful, even better with the walkman that does not use android OS. Yhe one launched on 2019. You don't have internet, notifications, streaming apps but you can just relax and enjoy your music without any annoyings.

[@joshualee5473]

I feel like this video found me at the right time and also shoutout to The Angelic Process

[@axilleas]

I still remember my first Apple device, a 2nd Gen iPod Nano. A very nice device, I could tell even as a kid.

[@dominikfulop7188]

We need more retro apple content from you

[@psychedelicspider4346]

I never had an iPod, buy my BFFs around that time did, so I have second hand nostalgia by looking at them. I'm a build your own library type of guy, and I hold onto my few CDs and I ripped them to WAV as soon as I got ahold of a CD/DVD drive. I have an older smartphone as a dedicated player, and I paid for Spotify for a year, and I really didn't discover as much music as one would think. KZbin was still my go to to discover untapped 70s music, or upcoming 2010s-2020s artists.

[@FUKYFILM]

I am also not Spotify user. I dont like it. I use paid Apple music, which enables me to build my own collection of music.

[@tzukima]

i recently switched and i’m pretty happy!

[@lordapophis93]

Ordered an iPod shuffle on eBay the other day. It's just 1 gb but I really am excited to start collecting some CDs so I can have music to load up. I used to have more CDs but I haven't been able to find them all.

[@ThePmcderm91]

iPod shuffle was amazing.

[@t-dog7401]

What a great video. This is the OG KZbin style.

[@tzukima]

thank you so much that is exactly what i’m going for!

[@a1white]

I spent a fair amount of money at the time on the 2nd gen iPod touch 32GB in 2009, only took a couple of years before it could no longer get any iOS updates then Apple gradually stopped all its services first the KZbin app then Weather, iTunes then the App Store (which basically was useless as the iOS was too old anyway). I can still play internet radio on it and obviously play music, but it’s felt like a battle against apple to keep it a usable device (I use it on an old dock as a music player/radio in my bedroom). A tech company wouldn’t get away with lack of support nowadays.

[@jamiw1]

the ipod touch 7th gen is probably the best ipod to be made, especially as a heavily upgraded ipod instead of a dumbed down iphone. it has infinitely faster storage, internet access for streaming services (along with offline listening) a higher game selection instead of brick/solitaire, better way to browse music (which you still can own! apple music supports songs from iTunes that you either bought, or brought into iTunes) with the ability to see songs coming up and rearranging them. plus, the iTunes Store is available on device instead of using a PC to sync

[@PvtAnonymous]

nah, the best iPod (touch) ever made was the iPhone 6S. I still use one to this day from time to time just to play music.

[@samuellee3507]

Great video! I wish I bought an iPod classic for keepsake. Though now with some reflection, I think the Apple Watch is kinda like the new iPod now? Built in storage where you can save your playlists for offline listening… kinda only working fully if you have a phone, otherwise it’s offline only like an iPod… 🤔

[@ill-nois2282]

I still have my first gen iPod Touch from back in the day. It doesn’t work anymore but it was amazing piece of tech back in the day

[@wasylbasyl]

4:46 seeing battery icon emptying vertically scares me

[@halimech1]

i saw lamp and capsule in your collection!!!

[@tzukima]

of course!

[@halimech1]

@@tzukima what other Japanese music do you like? I like hako yamasaki and orange lounge, the latter is also Shibuya-kei vibe

[@miaisnotmortyick]

i remember my old 6th gen ipod touch i had when i was little sadly its basically hard bricked so i cant even restore it in dfu :/

[@tzukima]

i had a 3rd gen when i was little ur making me feel old asf 😭

[@imacg5]

still rocking my 160g ipod classic unmodded and having a blast. just dug out an ipod touch i forgot i have, and realized some of the music apps are discontinued but still runs on this thing if you don't upgrade. they don't know they're already dead. safe to say this ipod touch will be in permanent airplane mode. streaming is for ambience only, video and audio likewise. it has never been, and never will be the tool for watching and listening. if you don't create, active consume instead of relying on streaming is the last thing you can do to preserve a bit of humanity.

[@POPDELUSION]

As an ipod user flacs were never an issue, iTunes automatically converted them to ALAC. They played just fine 👍

[@LiarpieVicinityFTW]

6:24 Full of Hell spotted!

[@tzukima]

one of the things i enjoyed doing in this video was showing a ton of different music in the background hoping people would find their favs!

[@sygil]

deathconsciousness mentioned

[@mingluke12]

I think Apple should'nt discontinuted ipod classic. I got mine on Mercari for 300$ in mint unused condition months ago. I'm surprised it's battery life still great.

[@tzukima]

300? 😱

[@mingluke12]

@@tzukima it’s original which means original front, back plate and the click wheel unused. The batter count is less than 5 or 10 when I turn it on disk mode I think

[@TheRenoReviews]

I walk my dog twice a day and refuse to take my bulky phone with me every time, so in have a nano 6th gen and it's so good even to this day. The little touch screen is surprisingly responsive and the battery lasts a whole week.

[@octavio7915]

I love my iPod touch 7, it’s on iOS 14.3

[@morganrowe]

Beautifully said. Thanks for the effort 🤙

[@tang9538]

YURAGI MENTIONED RAAAAAAHHHHHHH 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@tzukima]

my eyes wide op-DUNDUNDUNDUNDUNDUN

[@rogerguo8352]

your pronunciation of shenzhen is so on point

[@tzukima]

@@rogerguo8352 im chinese bro 🤣

[@rogerguo8352]

@@tzukima waaaaahhhhh hahahhahahah

[@bravesonly]

It's a great video with offencively low amount of views. Thank you!

[@tzukima]

thank you!

[@oldipodee]

I broke the front panel trying to resurrect my iPod, but as I was already low on funds and didn't ruin usability, it just looked like it's been opened. Sucks it doesn't have bluetooth, I can't use my AirPods Pro, so I just try to use EarPods that shipped with iPod touches, which always fall out. I pretty much just use my iPhone, even though I probably should be using an old iPod touch.

[@MarcBigio]

I just did an out of warranty replacement of an iPod touch 7th gen I bought off eBay. It will not be serviced soon :/

[@Uplike747]

i didnt know ur vamp like that

[@tzukima]

check out my second channel @poltergeist_yt 🧛🏽

[@JannesDragon]

I'm actually one of those guys who think of a shuffle when I here "iPod" lmao

[@neutralsushi5555]

Sweet!

[@RiloRox]

Oh yeah Dopesmoker by Sleep!🔥

[@matenagy111]

Bro went from Astolfo figure reviews to ipods. 💀💀

[@JogieGlenMait16]

I still have an ipod touch. Thanks for this.

[@TheAntarcticaProject]

Good video dude

[@tzukima]

thank you!!

[@axethepenguin]

I mean they did sort of the same newsroom blog thing for Steve Jobs death so it makes some sense

[@theguythatmakesvideo]

pulls up chief keef, +10000 aura

[@tzukima]

bang bang

[@mauropereira187]

How do you build this?

[@aribuwu]

SPOTTED AN AGALLOCH FAN. AMAZING (why the hell are y'all so damn rare)

[@Lillylafrog]

I want to get an ipod so bad but 3rd party ones are just so much cheaper (tho with not great UI...)

[@JBLAST101]

nice video I'm also filming a video about the same iPod in nyc keep it up

[@tzukima]

i see you also found the bookoff haha

[@teenstein9509]

iPhone SE 2020 and 2022 both still had the button.

[@tzukima]

those are touch id with no rounded square logo on it

[@melvinch]

How about getting the iPod to support USB-C DAC dongle?

[@tzukima]

i’m sure someone has done that but if the goal is hifi i would just get a modern dap like those high end walkmans

[@gteagle2004]

16:45 Dude, Panopticon is such a goooood album. One of my all time favorite bands right there. I'm curious to know what you thought of it?

[@tzukima]

that was one of the albums which was new to me, i enjoyed it! the songs sound huge

[@gteagle2004]

@@tzukimaI’m glad you liked it. ISIS is really good at making songs that sound massive. “So Did We” is honestly my favorite song on that album, the ending where the song just smacks you with a wall of sound is just phenomenal, Gives me chills every time

[@ufalsalman]

I want to ask something. How much do you got the iPad 5th gen on second hand? Because I worried if when I look up on my country's online marketplace, I will get something that overpriced for its model. I live in Indonesia, for reference.

[@guitarboyjeff]

0:39 yes but the Apple that created the iPod is not the Apple of today. A lot of the executives are there but the leaders are different now.

[@fewiip]

i don't think not being autosuficient is a problem, but the experience of putting music though itunes i think is very incovinient

[@kamsandwich6990]

Had the 2nd and 4th gen. Then I switched to iPhone with the 5s

[@BigBallerBedro]

Yuragi detected 👁️

[@tzukima]

been on that since 2019

[@matt.m]

5:41 then use apple music

[@tzukima]

i am now!

[@user69997]

carissas wierd is soso based

[@tzukima]

@@user69997 incredible album

[@mitchietorres_stan]

its not that difficult to listen to entire album on spotify

[@MintNanyl]

i love yuragi vro

[@tzukima]

nice pfp

[@J.Wick.]

Still have my 160gb classic i got in 2008? Thing got me through a carrier deployment around the world. Music, watching TV shows in my rack that i was able to download while in port. Still works great to this day. I've never been an Apple guy. Honestly, i can't stand most of their stuff. But that ipod was special. As for Spotify, i really liked that service 10 yrs ago. I've really liked YT Music for the past few years. Oh man.. Just seeing iTunes is like a horror show. What a terrible program. I wanna update mine like this. One day.

[@samlung2724]

Most companies moved away from using ipods and started using the Zebras.

[@Prnencetti]

Hi am I opinion in the iPod is still great. It’s for those kids who aren’t allowed to have a cell phone yet because they’re too young or their parents just doesn’t want them to have one until they get old enough. They can have the iPod and take all the pictures they want take all the video they want and then not beyond the Internet All the time because it needs Wi-Fi so they can get off the Internet and do things outside not becoming an iPad kid generation I have an iPod they can text their friends but then again limit their time on it.

[@richardnathaniels]

ClariS ❤

[@BezzyBee03]

OWSLA 👀

[@VirusShockerX32]

You hype up the good qualities & recommend using an iPod but yet you say that you will not be using it for your everyday usages? But I get it...I only listen to music while driving. I don't listen to music on my PC, TV, or even from my phone.... I have 2 iPods, one Touch & one Classic... Honestly the best way to use is to just do random play or create the playlist for listening. I would connect my iPod touch via hotspot & stream from SoundCloud if I want to hear the latest stuff. but for the most part most newer music suck & the songs I've collected over the years are going to be the ones I stick with the most on repeat, so a single use device like an iPod makes sense for me.

[@xnanoo]

Aye dgd 👌

[@je5terc0re]

What's the point of using 4x64GB MicroSDs instead of single 256GB card lol

[@tzukima]

@@je5terc0re i think the idea was that you would use 4x256gb or something i just wanted it cuz i thought it was funny lol

[@je5terc0re]

@@tzukima iFlash Quad is more like a prototype, no need to use all 4 slots. Let's imagine for 1 card fail rate is 5%. For 4 of them it will be ~20%. Also every card adds a little bit of power consumption for the controller, nand, etc. It's better in terms of reliability and battery life to use less cards.

[@Nimrawid]

Saying that iPod had interface is such a damn stretch. There is no interface, its just lists on blank white space. Worst interface i ever interacted with. Also it made mess if your music metadata isnt in order. It never was for us back in the day.

[@MouseCIick]

Calling the touch an iPod is already a stretch. If it doesn’t have the dial it’s not an iPod.

[@tzukima]

ipod touch is more like an ipad nano

[@zerorez4960]

. 12:50 " crazy to consider " ? my guy : . in the digital bis. there is no art nor vintage . last day is obsolete

[@DjMatchlessTV]

An AI device in a iPod classic case would be perfect

[@pierrekuchmann3944]

Nah spotify is nice

[@danielsmokesmids]

yeah im sorry but anyone that can listen to the same music for long enough to use an mp3 player doesnt really love music. i constantly have to find new music and i dont wanna have to save it to a different device every time i find a new song i like (usually at least once a day)

[@A2Adam]

Couldn't disagree more. Ownership of music is a huge advantage, and you could still use a Spotify just to have an online log of music you want to listen to, but not being shackled to WiFi or algorithms means you have a better attachment to music especially those songs that are meant to be listened to as a part of an album.

[@gtPacheko]

"u don't love your hobby unless you do it like meeee"

[@wishdankpods]

yeah couldn’t disagree more either, this is entirely false. i love music, im a musician myself. music is my entire life and i love ipods, got a huge collection. if i wanna discover new music, i use youtube. then will add it to my library. my main playlist on youtube is 800+ songs, which would take 3 days to listen to all of it in one go. i have about half that on my ipod library and it’s so much nicer to hit shuffle and listen to music. sure, if your library is small yeah it does get annoying to listen to the same song every day but my ipods library still expands and i hear different songs every day and plenty of space on my ipod for it. and as @A2Adam said ownership of my music is better than spotify. if any any point they go under, my library is gone. on itunes, i burned everything in my library onto CDs and apple can’t take that away from me no matter what happens to itunes.

[@A2Adam]

@@wishdankpods Not to mention music bought from the iTunes store has no DRM! I can't speak for quality if you're an audiophile but that's a big advantage.

[@wishdankpods]

@@A2Adam honestly for me it's perfectly fine, i definitely am a bit picky when it comes to my songs audio quality but the best thing i've got are some IEMs and airpods pro 2nd gens so for what i listen out of, everything has sounded great. not sure if you can get lossless on itunes bc ik u can get lossless on apple music but that's a totally different service

[@kennethloung3422]

Dude if your reading this if you create the database for the ipod just once it will do the rest for you and if you go to database its like browsing your regular ipod for albums artists and playlists if you made any.

[@tzukima]

are you talking about rockbox?

[@kennethloung3422]

@@tzukima yeah for rockbox. I use it all the time cause I don't want to go through itunes. I like how I can keep everything organized without it. You just need to rebuild the database once unless you add more music again. Also it acts like a media controller when plugged in to your PC so the click wheel is the volume control and the rest you know. I watched a lot of dankpods so he go me back into using one and rockbox has been really useful for avoiding iTunes.

[@harry_f317]

I'm still using my iPod classic 5.5 and modded to have ssd and new yellow faceplate. ❤

[@tzukima]

all my joeys gone