U.S. Supreme Court Oral Argument: Health Care Law

[@kenrobison9528]

The people want the same health plan Congress has! We are paying for your plan. Remember everyone deployed.

[@kermitkroll5332]

yes, this is what we want. we are tired of the politicians living large on our money while they throw us slop .slop is table scraps for those who never sloped hogs. THE SAME HEALTH PLAN !!!!!!!!!!

[@kennethwhitaker8353]

Oh, you bet.

[@tiastorie6599]

Exactly!

[@notmypresidentjoe1934]

We should path to insurance with or without STUPID ACA

[@notmypresidentjoe1934]

ACA don't allow us to buy our own insurance if you don't make -x amount why should I go without insurance just because i don't make enough to get your ACA discount????

[@cricketcrigler]

I agree, thank you for posting C-Span. The Affordable Care Act is such a hot button for everyone today and this is very educational.

[@DeathValleyDazed]

Nothing like hearing the real thing. Thanks for your production team making this happen!

[@MsCGarnica]

Its only as much as yt wants to allow US to know either way

[@neilperry8741]

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[@Oromanowarful]

The proof of suffering is the fact congress wrote themselves exempt from paying

[@DarinJamesSpencer]

IRREFUTABLE

[@Oromanowarful]

@@DarinJamesSpencer i can't believe they want to argue insufferability clause when the states and employers have suffered, I don't know about any lawsuits that issued forth from that but I know employers here would not hire anyone full time for years because of being afraid of having to pay both insurance for employees and they couldn't afford to pay the penalty tax also. And the left wants to say trumps tax cuts haven't helped Americans, I've seen it with my own eyes and talked to many who believe they wouldn't be working now if trump hadn't stimulated the marketplace. But I'm thankful they gutted the individual mandate but it still reinforces the idea of a command from congress that's unconstitutional for forcing citizens to enter into commerce against their will. I don't believe the majority of Americans would choose to accept a law that forces us to all pay or get targeted by the IRS. The only reason the poll numbers for it were high (i say high but iirc it was maybe 40-45 percent) was because mainstream news propped it up on a pillow.

[@neilperry8741]

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[@MrSprintcat]

When do we stop bowing down?

[@kimmy5755]

NEVER!

[@TiempoNuevo-ew7ty]

Thank you C-Span for recording this proceeding of the Supreme Court Case. Thank you for supporting a free and open America.

[@AmberMaureenPuanani]

Why does the government have a legal standing ever to mandate any citizen buying medical insurance, pay for somebody else’s medical condition. If it was so great why did Obama exempt Congress as a small employer. It is not fair to people who make better health choices and care.. it is discriminatory to everybody who works to pay for their own insurance and doesn’t want to pay for abortion, pre or post natal care. Expand Medicaid for those who want preferred, pre-existing insurance coverage. You definitely are FORCING EVERYBODY to pay for illnesses, abortions, they do not have nor agree with morally- The Obama Care Act took away all our choice and affordability in healthcare- where have you been justices? More and more and more government over reach. You can not mandate health insurance and call it a tax just because the democrats want to control us and destroy our liberties. We do not want this, we do not agree as citizens with attaching anymore additional taxes and calling it constitutional.

[@WarriorGirl_113]

Most Democracy’s around the World acknowledges the fact that the taxpayers money funds the government and everyone the day they are born are covered for all of their healthcare needs as it should be! Here in America our taxpayers money covers the research and development of lifesaving medicine, immunization’s and vaccines that save countless of lives around the World yet we pay 200%-2,000% more for a single pill. There is a thing called the internet that can inform you of facts. For instance google the cost of Remdemisfeir in Canada, the UK, Germany and America (spoiler Germany is the closest to us at just over $50 a pill and over $500 here!) it’s unacceptable!

[@harrellmorlan6817]

Congress did not call it a tax Chief Justice Robert's called it a tax, Roberts changed congress wording because he has been compromised the communist democraps are black mailing Roberts. IMHO

[@50jakecs]

Umm, states mandate automobile liability insurance. Are you complaining about that, too? You're being disingenuous. SHUT UP. I'm sick of the uninformed defending private health insurance and their profits over healthcare.

[@robbiepierce7732]

Hawkins is absolutely correct. The mandate is uncontinuational

[@jesspavlichenko5745]

Why can't he convince the Supreme Court of that then

[@robbiepierce7732]

@@jesspavlichenko5745 that's like asking why it rains in a rainforest.

[@jesspavlichenko5745]

@@robbiepierce7732 No, it rains in the rainforest because of a complex ecosystem They can't convince anyone of their argument because it is a bad argument

[@robbiepierce7732]

@@jesspavlichenko5745 Well all I know is if we let this smart people go through with switching votes with Domino/scorecard machines and flood voting booths with illegal votes , none of us will be worrying about eco

[@bradrichards8122]

@@jesspavlichenko5745 No, the complex ecosystem is because it rains.

[@chuckspubgm7258]

Keep it a choice, don’t penalize!!! Its simple.

[@chuckspubgm7258]

@Sether castheth And ill save some money as well...

[@chuckspubgm7258]

@Sether castheth its not about greed...i live in california working for an agency that finds me work that wont give benefits instead directs us to ACA...because its hard to find a good job that provides that in a highly saturated competitive area...living on a 2500 dollar monthly income... after rent,car,insurance, food etc... only have 20 bucks at end of the month... looked into obamacare and lowest plan is 300 dollars... cant afford it...then tax season comes around and i get penalized??? Like really??? Huge amounts of ppl are barely making out here who think the same way... again itsnot about greed...

[@chuckspubgm7258]

@Sether castheth noboby is asking you for anything ... im simply saying it doesnt work... and it shouldnt be blindly mandated because it’s unaffordable... its time to try something new...i dont need healthcare thats why i said it should be a choice..

[@akeating04043]

Biden will allow a Medicare buy in choice for those who can not afford or otherwise do not have healthcare. Medicare will start at age 60 years old and No one will loose their private insurance NO ONE.

[@chuckspubgm7258]

@@akeating04043 that sounds good...i dont mind them trying to provide healthcare alternatives. As long as the mandate is gone. I dont care what they want to sell to us.

[@shirleyb4492]

Leaving the clause for a tax in the act gives an easier path for increasing or adding a tax back in at the will of Congress. We the people don’t need an easier path for Congress to increase our tax!!

[@tugboat2]

One thing I learned... if the mandate penalty can be zeroed out...it also can, in the future, be reinstated by Congress; meaning they can reinstate a penalty at their choosing. This mandate should be ENTIRELY REMOVED.

[@tugboat2]

@Nicolae Florin Pașca There was NEVER a plan to prevent being insured because of pre-existing conditions...don’t believe the lie.

[@stephentropy]

“If you make a law less coercive, how does it become more of a command” 💀 1:17:10

[@goldieirish9958]

The 2017 Congress Did want to end it!! Except John Rhino McCain's thumbs down!! GO AMY!!!!!!

[@akeating04043]

Thank God for Mcain millions should not be loosing healthcare during a pandemic!

[@engineered-mind]

@nitedaze1000 he fought for this country. respect the dead

[@SpirosPagiatakis]

@@engineered-mind The dead do not need respect and you should direct your focus to the braindead morons that use the phrase "individual liberty". Do you know why? Because the true meaning of the phrase "individual liberty" is "I got mine, fuck you". What a shithole that country is...

[@earthangel2524]

Thank you C-SPAN!

[@stephenshort4281]

Brilliant questions by Judge ACB. Council clearly rattled

[@DragonFire5208]

It was deemed unconstitutional to call it a tax. So they changed the terminology to penalty. The result is still the same. If you don't buy, what we say you must buy, you will have to pay. With that in mind, yes it is unconstitutional.

[@TheAwesomeTolga198]

In which case was it deemed unconstitutional to call it a tax?

[@dragonflarefrog1424]

Not according to the Supreme Court, nice try

[@chandlersampson]

THANK YOU C-SPAN! 💕

[@alexvikendi1768]

@@rvdjt8874 I was going to make a snarky comment but I've searched this exact video for years. Thanks you.

[@johnpaval9646]

Justice Barrett sounds awfully smart to me and fairminded to me, now that all the shouting is over. :)

[@jesspavlichenko5745]

Someone can be reasonable in some aspects and not reasonable in others. See: Ben Carson

[@ctafrance]

@@jesspavlichenko5745 Absolutely. I mean, I assume you are capable of acting like a decent human being in some contexts. But here, you feel it necessary to make a despicable insinuation instead of just acknowledging the obvious facts for any objective observer listening to this hearing. It is possible for otherwise decent people, like yourself, to express themselves in a somewhat indecent way as soon as they think they are talking about someone who does not share their political views. You see, some people think that political disagreements are an excuse for being shitty to other people. I do not, but you seem to do so.

[@jesspavlichenko5745]

@@ctafrance What is the despicable insinuation?

[@tetleydidley]

@@ctafrance I highly doubt an objective observer would be "acknowledging the obvious facts" that Justice Barrett sounded "awfully smart" and "fairminded" now that the "shouting" is over. Many people would question the sanity of anyone who thinks that the statement could be anything more than an opinion. While Jess may have insinuated something, you're the one accusing him outright of indecency and "shitty" behavior. I don't know the basis for which you concluded that his "indecency" was motivated by political disagreements. On the contrary, he seems to agree with John's original premise of Justice Barrett's brilliance. He just reinforced it with another example of another brilliant person of similar political persuasion.

[@marcoantoniorodriguesfaria9768]

@@ctafrance quem conhece Trump sabe bem .este não se pode confiar. Inocente 😃 lá atrás eu fui .no começo que eu vi pela primeira vez eu não podia julgar .mas com o passar dos anos investigado .eu pude ver .ele demostrou quem ele e .cometendo crime e forjando .seus Crimes . Atak Sinagoga dos Judeus e logo foi jogando seus Crimes em mim .eu tive que me justificar através de um Rótulo. Imagina Documento na mão deste Criminoso.fora com este papo .de Documentos.

[@oneoftherobs7891]

This whole debacle would've been referred to as racketeering just a few decades ago.

[@Nash4Nashville]

Wow what an eye opener on what the laws and penalties 'really' are vs. public 'opinion'😉

[@kryptonarie6367]

As it turns out, “shall” is not a word of obligation. The Supreme Court of the United States ruled that “shall” really means “may” - quite a surprise to attorneys who were taught in law school that “shall” means “must”. In fact, “must” is the only word that imposes a legal obligation that something is mandatory.Jan 27, 2019

[@vgovger4373]

I haven't had health insurance since it was cancelled by Obama care regulations.

[@Bill-gk4zc]

@linda Jay file a lawsuit against that obozo clown

[@vgovger4373]

@linda Jay try one of those health SHARING companies. A single person your age is around 170 a month to 180. They cover all 100% and have no deductibles. There are about 6 of those companies out there, do a Google search.

[@fredjohnson6262]

Me also

[@deannadimonda3977]

As a small business owner I provided health insurance since 1979. Ridiculous legislation since 1984 caused health insurance to become a financial burden on employers and individual policies. Making any addiction from alcohol, drugs to shopping addiction caused insurance costs to jump from $141 per month to over $654 per individual from 1980 to 1990. That’s 500% in 10 years. In the early 1990’s hmos became available. Less insurance for more money. At the passing of ACA my personal insurance (hmo) blasted from $379 per month to $795 per month and even less provision. I don’t purchase my insurance thru te exchange but understand there is a $5500 deductible. In that case, after spending approximately $9600 a year for said policy one doesn’t actually have coverage. A terrible legislation by a equally terrible group of non representative representatives.

[@vgovger4373]

@@deannadimonda3977 I would be happy with a catastrophic plan that has a high deductible, but only cost like $80

[@renernewton383]

Congress and all law makers should also have the same as is offered to us.

[@MasterofScrutiny]

Including the Supreme Court!

[@dragonflarefrog1424]

They do

[@gugulethudube578]

As an outsider I'm always amazed at how appellate proceedings are limited to roughly an hour or 30 minutes per side and always wonder if the Justices are properly informed or have enough time to put questions. In other jurisdictions like UK or South Africa these proceedings can take the whole day and counsel can argue to exhuastion and question is much thorough in which not only the law is argued but the reasoning, doctrine and philosophy behind the legal points are engaged

[@jesspavlichenko5745]

Some of these folks are in their 80's my good friend!

[@jesspavlichenko5745]

That said, Bernie Sanders spoke for 8 hours straight and thats not even close to the longest filibuster. Folks in congress can go 15 hours without even a bathroom break in some instances

[@tetleydidley]

It just looks limited to us regular folks. But oral arguments are a very small part of Supreme Court proceedings. Prior to oral arguments, counsels for parties to lawsuits need to have submitted their written arguments and they would have filed their responses to those arguments. In this particular case, if you're really interested in matters of detailed reasoning, doctrine, philosophy, etc., you should go the Supreme Court's docket website where all case documents are located here: www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/19-840.html

[@johncole2744]

A really simple solution; Government healthcare should be at a state level only NOT on a federal level.

[@johncole2744]

@Marvin Mktavish "How do you offer federal funding to help that though?" You dont, at all. Thats the point. States that don't want it dont have to have it and states that want it can have it. Political polarization problem solved.

[@andreww.9342]

@@johncole2744 lol what. You would just leave poorer states (MS, ID, OK, etc.) out to dry?

[@johncole2744]

@@andreww.9342 Out to dry? You mean save us?..... We dont want your crappy policies forced on us. Why do you people have such a difficult time understanding this? WE DONT WANT IT. States that want it can have it, states that dont, dont have to have it, everyone wins.

[@andreww.9342]

@@johncole2744 lmao nice editing your comments to make them seem rational

[@johncole2744]

@@andreww.9342 Because I added to it? Superficial criticism is meaningless. You know im correct, and thats all that matters (centralization vs decentralization) .

[@J.PMora1957]

Not political but it’s so weird to hear a Supreme Court hearing for once

[@bleacherz7503]

They always release Audio

[@volhosis3784]

You can go on oyez.org and listen to them all since the 60s...

[@shaaka]

If you're listening to C-SPAN you've definitely stepped over the line into political.🤍 welcome friend

[@bdonovable]

They are amazing. There are websites where you can listen to old ones and subscriptions for podcast app

[@bdonovable]

@@volhosis3784 i like that site a lot, especially with transcript, provided while listening, to follow along with.

[@PretentiousStuff]

I have no idea what's going on but this shit is so entertaining.

[@karenhainline5787]

Mr. Mongan does not get it. They are charging based on income that a lot of people will not know what it is until after the year is over, especially small businesses. They should be advertising the prices period. The IRS fined H&R Block for charging based on a percentage of someone's refund. How does the government get away with charging a percentage of peoples unknown income? When people are working multiple jobs and won't know their total until the end of the year having to pay a fine is ridiculous. Then they are fined for getting "too much" of a credit. It is designed to steal their refund. State the actual price and quit using a percentage of future income. Can you see the future!? When working with multiple W2's each employer does not know about the other and cannot know that one W2 for $6,000 would not make a tax burden but 2 or 3 or more would! They could not possibly know ahead of time what part time jobs they will get especially with businesses closing at the whim of control freaking Dem Governors! Do NOT go into the Marketplace as they say "How much do you want to pay?" Not, "This is the amount you should if your income is this." Then our state, Washington, has not gotten the form right yet. They are supposed to be using the SECOND LOWEST SILVER PLAN, but I have to check the site and correct the form every year. If the taxpayer goes to someone to do their taxes and they don't know to correct the 1095A form per their own website, people will be paying tens of thousands of dollars. I just had a client this year that some inexperienced person made her pay $13,000. Would you have that in your account? THE NUMBER ONE THING IS THEY DID NOT TAKE CARE OF THE COST WHICH CROSS STATE COMPETITION WOULD HAVE DONE! Also the first year of this ACA I was 64 and the least expensive insurance was $1,064 per month with a $10,000 deductible. Who buys crap like that and why would you? You could not afford to use it. It would be worthless! Some states such as Washington had, in the case of Gregoire, an Insurance Commissioner, Attorney General and 2 stints as Governor and she sued the insurance companies which left our state. Clallam County has only ONE insurance. They want to charge a single man age 58 $900 per month premiums with a $7,500 deductible. That would be half his income! So there is NO COMPETITION FOR PRICE REDUCTION! Oregon, by comparison, has 25 to choose from and yet they want to make you get it or fine you if you didn't. That's why Congress took away the individual mandate. But you still have not lowered the costs! Get it!!! By the way, THE ONLY WAY IT PASSED IS THE FINE HAD TO BE A TAX AND NOT A FINE! NOW THE ACA IS TAKING HARD EARNED MONEY FROM THOSE WHO CAN LEAST AFFORD IT BECAUSE THE PEOPLE SIGNING THEM UP DON'T TELL WHAT THEY SHOULD PAY! IT's anything BUT affordable!!

[@d0ve_]

Physicians are not required to accept the ACA. Many retired. People like myself have some rare incurable diseases. The ACA was forced upon me and 1 visit to a specialist cost $4,300. None of the bill was covered by the ACA regardless of them having the specialists on their list, would have been imminent death under the ACA for me. Another person I know, her son, since birth, had serious health issues and in a home. He was immediately cancelled and given notice to remove him. She also was disabled and could not care for him. She was forced to move out of this state to receive help. Law or no law some just don't have the funds to buy this forced ACA and private insurance companies cut back or left states. That snowballed and created a enormous copayments. Thankfully President Trump was able to help with what he had to work with along with resistance. Epidemics don't often come around and shouldn't. Physicians aren't familiar with these manmade viruses. They can only do so much. To have the government dictate ACA be the option for Americans. Other countries do not work as well as assumed. Friends with common disease as I have, suffered greatly a slow, extremely painful death with extremely poor care.

[@gadiantonx8474]

you sir did bring the injury statement that is missing in this set of arguments

[@gayleallen3241]

Yep, very unfair that many were scammed by the ACA. I pray that you have gotten some sort of relief.

[@NOMAD-qp3dd]

I enjoy hearing this discourse.

[@goldieirish9958]

It doesn't just hurt the state!!! It hurts the people employers the cost is OUTRAGEOUS!

[@tetleydidley]

Purchasing insurance is entirely optional. You do know that right?

[@honeycomb416]

@@tetleydidley if truly optional then why penalties for not having insurance on our taxes

[@sassygirl2465]

@@tetleydidley or... should be...

[@william-tm]

Procedure vs Right. This is where we are. What is fair, versus what is right. Irreconcilable differences. Different languages. Conflict inevitable...

[@johnathanbusse4679]

Whats to stop congress from changing the zero to another high rate again? Just because it has been zeroed out does not make it ok. That would be very easy to un zero it out. If it is gone thats no longer a threat. As long as it sits it could be used at any point.

[@rosecolombo824]

I wrote the first blog in the nationabou t February 2009 before congress passed the unread Obamacare and rubber stamped it, "approved." I emailed my blog to every congressman and senator including my own entitled, "Obamacare Care is Unconstitutional and illegal" and why....posted on congress.org, and all a vailable sites on the internet. FOX used my blog for their news stories on Obamacare after I posted it for public review. I was informed that my blog was read in part on the congressional record on the House floor with my name. Liberal media was very angry when I was interviewed by them about my book and Obamacare....One attorney host on a major station told the audience not to listen to me and that Obamacare did not include death panels, but now he knows I was right as well as the nation .

[@joesurfer9754]

Hers a good question: "Can you prove there are 20 million people on Obama care that are not simply on medicaid?

[@joesurfer9754]

@Marvin Mktavish WTF are you asking me stupid questions for? I am not your mommy.

[@lizasintic6926]

Joe..I get your question..

[@packingten]

I lost ANY confidence in S Court!.

[@jimb6554]

Roberts is Bush's wonderful "Gift" that keeps on giving.

[@fredjohnson6262]

I hope that is a Snide statement.

[@cynthiapittman452]

Understand

[@amyamy9482]

This hearing shows me just how much trouble our country is in. If this Court is our “Hope” for our laws to be upheld... then hope is no more.

[@the.living.man.]

The ACA is a violation of the tenth amendment. The Federal Government cannot force you through fine or imprisonment to purchase private goods or services. I'm sorry that you dont understand the Constitution.

[@wulfbak]

This is what getting laughed out of court sounds like.

[@sclinton323]

Then you're not listening

[@neilperry8741]

HAIL THE LIGHT (Attention Attention Attention) Are you a Student,Businessmen or Women,Footballer,President, Lecturer,Pastor ,Entertainer,Presenter,Governor,Lawyer, etc and you want to be known all over the World and become Rich,Famous,and powerful or you want to have powers to protect your Family and your Wealth kindly Join the Great Illuminati Family to Achieve your Heart wishes��� Email [e-mail] your online initiation Hail Illuminati NOTE!!! There is no human sacrifice if you are interested contact us on whatsapp [phone] Thank you.

[@julieselden7932]

This entire thing needs to go. The Affordable care act is not affordable. Also just because they zeroed out that we have to pay, doesn't mean that they can not come back at any time and add a dollar amount to it. Nope the entire thing must go!

[@Yellobrkrd]

I am willing to do my part. If that means paying more so that others can have coverage so be it. No one should be denied health coverage. Unfortunately this is a pissing contest between the parties. Humans need healthcare period. Come on people do better

[@HIMYMTR]

well you definitely can pay more, i can't afford the penalty

[@gingerbreadcookies1761]

@@HIMYMTR health care should be a human right 👏💚

[@videoman4734]

Well one reason health care is so expensive because there is only 6148 hospitals in the United States for 334, 000,000 people. Now that's wrong right there

[@esparzasmoonwalk6863]

Those who want it should pay for it those who don't should not not everybody can pay for someone one alses health care

[@HIMYMTR]

@@gingerbreadcookies1761 that's a nice sentiment

[@DarinJamesSpencer]

A lesser degree of unconstitutionality is STILL unconstitutional! The command IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL! PERIOD!

[@ivebeenredeemedjesusfreak47]

Before the aca my insurance was 80 a month thru my employer after it went up to 220 a month then was dropped completely last year now i pay 430 a month for my own plan. please Trump make heath insurance affordable again!

[@susanbedingfield4661]

If Trump wanted to give you insurance, he had 4 years to do it. Let's face it. Our government doesn't give a hoot about any of us.

[@ivebeenredeemedjesusfreak47]

@@susanbedingfield4661 i dont think it was because he didn't want to, i think it is because congress no longer cares about the people they only care about their own special interests, to the point all they do is fight with one another until nothing gets done . Because they don't compromise for the best interests of us

[@susanbedingfield4661]

@@ivebeenredeemedjesusfreak47 No, he is no better than any of them. If he wanted to, he could have gotten it done. No excuses for him either.

[@ivebeenredeemedjesusfreak47]

He is way better than them by making the usa oil independent he stopped all usa wars for oil his tax breaks put over 2 grand a year of my hard earned money back in my pocket he built a wall that has cut illegal immigration by 70% and cut the flow of drugs by 40 % if you weren't such a hater you might be able to see that he may not be perfect (but who is) but atleast he is a patriot who cares about this country and the only one in our government that has lost money by being in office not use it as a way to get rich by the way he already was but loved this country enough to put himself in a position that has evil attacking him at every step when he could be on a beach living the billionaire life style but he gave that up to try to help us

[@susanbedingfield4661]

@@ivebeenredeemedjesusfreak47 no, he isnt any better than any other politician. He is a greedy politician just like the rest.

[@nicolee9226]

There is nothing affordable or caring about this act.

[@lisaposadas4557]

I never understood how forcing an American to buy ANYTHING was ever considered constitutional.

[@MrYourfriendbutters]

@@richardvaughn8396 conflated?

[@akeating04043]

The mandate is over its been dropped so that's not the issue. So keep the rest of it and expand medicare as Biden will do. People can choose to enroll in federal medicare or not. People need healthcare. with out this ACA millions of people and all the unemployed people will have no coverage at all, during a pandemic!

[@kellygillies5559]

Common Law overrides their Maritime Law but most don't know it...all by design! Their legalese language created for the legal sysyem to keep regular citizens at a disadvantage. It is extremely difficult to make an argument in a language you do not understand is it not?

[@sylviamayo379]

Thanks C Span

[@lbuchanan532]

It's very expensive as a single person. They tag your paycheck.

[@cybil4152]

Where is your money going?

[@fixedgearfever69]

@@cybil4152 Hunter Biden he’s into crack and China.

[@Jay_Crew602]

I'm a Citizen, not a common citizen.

[@brianpdavis07]

whats the difference

[@MarcoHernandez-gq3qk]

I do not make enough money to pay for the affordable health act, to cover just me and my 10-year-old daughter, forget if I want to add my wife, the monthly fee will be half my weekly salary

[@jojowhite1185]

58:45. Well, Justice Roberts is not striking down the ACA.

[@dfull31]

No surprise there

[@videoman4734]

@@dfull31 people are asking the wrong questions. The question they should be asking is why there is only 6146 hospitals in the United States for 334,000,000

[@dfull31]

@@videoman4734 absolutely. That’s perfectly relevant to this case...

[@videoman4734]

@@dfull31 thank you. Statistics don't lie. Health insurance and health care in general was designed for 1% of the population. That's part of the expense. Congress isn't as smart as it thinks it is.

[@ibelurkin6682]

low key he's sick of it. lol He is like, why are we doing Congress's job....

[@williamreid6731]

As a free people which our constitution warrantees, should not garrentee the medical field can charge for every miniscule treatment thus making any medical procedures unaffordable.

[@harrykarp]

Kyle Hawkins: There are new people (say who just came of age) to whom this law applies who weren't subject to the previous iteration of the law.

[@sofarod512]

So do i get my money back. Cuz i got fined 2 times

[@the.living.man.]

You damn well should. That fine was a direct violation of the tenth amendment!

[@AntiMasonic93]

Yeah, we get our money back.

[@the.living.man.]

@Liberty Hanson Tenth Amendment, Article VI, Section 2 clearly states that any law passed that is contrary to the US Constitution is thereby null and void. Technically they cannot suspend the Constitution, and barring an imminent invasion of a foreign Country, I cannot see any reason to enact such a measure. Have Presidents passed laws that grant them far too much authority? Yes, but technically it is worth less than the paper it's written on. Every unconstitutional law is treason, per the founding documents.

[@the.living.man.]

@Liberty Hanson The shadow government does not operate by the US Constitution, they are led by international banking interests, and their main goal is to subvert the people and the legitimate government of the US. Until Trump was elected, they owned every President, the last President to openly go against them was JFK. So yes, you are correct, to a degree. If we are to honor the criminals in power, they can pretty much do what they want, they do have the Country by the balls, so to speak. But technically they are traitors to the Constitution and guilty of treason, all of them.

[@the.living.man.]

@Liberty Hanson Watch this, if you wish to know the real history behind the genius of this Country's founding. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWrEaoOPpZ5nipo

[@lizasintic6926]

The federal government should run by tariffs, not by taxes of two working parents that have to pay daycare to raise their babies.. Wrong for so long!

[@marvelousmarvin4th]

If the Court rules that they have standing. Then everyone who has recieved a criminal no insurance ticket in America must have their convictions overturned and be made whole for any monies spent and time served in jail. This ruling could be a windfall for the poor!!!

[@wespro1]

Wouldn’t that only apply if the no insurance ticket you refer to was deemed to be a tax?

[@marvelousmarvin4th]

@@wespro1 No, as both sides and the court stated what could make it unconstitutional is: 1. A citizen can't be forced to participate in commerce. 2. The language in the law say that its mandatory. 3. Can a person be subjected to harm for not following the mandate. Thus this argument can fully be applied to state laws concerning auto insurance. Especially since it directly effects interstate commerce and our right to travel.

[@andreww.9342]

1:23:40 - 1:25:09 is all you need to predict how this will turn out.

[@gopro_audio]

Regarding Masks, persons with disabilities can not be required to wear them. See ADA / RH

[@tylerrose7599]

The only disability you have is an iq in the negatives

[@rkbrown2092]

@@tylerrose7599 What! Thats rude, if you don't have anything constructive to say in relation to this person's comment then be quiet!

[@coleenfottrell4102]

@@tylerrose7599 There is no actual law that requires anyone to wear a mask. It’s up to those providing goods and services, either privately or through a government agency. So far Congress has not passed a law mandating masks. Until that happens, neither you nor anyone else has any business harassing strangers on the street, at grocery stores, playgrounds or anywhere else.

[@tylerrose7599]

@@coleenfottrell4102 executive order buddy boy

[@DJ-wo8gl]

No one should be fined or penalized for not being able to purchase healthcare insurance ... How about you give up your healthcare, the ACA was passed fraudulently from the beginning as being cheaper, better, etc when it was nothing more than the worse law every passed. It is neither cheaper or better .

[@someguy5444]

Insurance is a service not a right, not once is medical care provided by the state mentioned in the constitution yet the states that want it struggle to uphold the basic rights provided under the constitution such as right to a speedy trial and the right to self defense. California was most productive when it was on fire.

[@50jakecs]

You're disgusting if you don't care about other people having an access to healthcare and think profits over lives is more important.

[@someguy5444]

@@50jakecs and your disgusting to believe in forcing people to pay for other peoples unhealthy choices. Socialist policy is never the answer and even what little socialist things that exist in America already are absolutely trash like our highways that are covered in chewed tires and dead animals or like the social security that is stolen from daily 😂

[@terik7304]

Finally we understand you mirror speak.......seriously !

[@susanjordan2130]

Why is the Supreme Court arguing this, when laws are made by legislature, not courts. Mandate is not a law.

[@tonbonthemon]

Laws are made by legislature, but the SCOTUS interprets the law and can determine whether or not it's constitutional. This is a basic feature.

[@billyowens5414]

Want to see injury? Tell Americans that the government is going to make them do something that they don't agree with. You will definitely see injury on behalf of the government, the Supreme Court, and anyone attempting to enforce.

[@waltcaldwell7306]

We the people do want the same health care congress has...I remember when this "garbage" first came to be and learned that our government leaders, who thought of this "garbage" did not have to be part of it. Darn lairs said we could keep what we had but NO we could not. I could no longer afford it and my kids were forced to buy it, but chose to pay the "stupid" penalty. Free is never free. I love Trump's plan of knowing costs prior to service and being able to shop around for services. Free market health care....

[@pennywebb9546]

Obama and clinton were pocketing the premiums andvproviding shit healthcare and eliminating market competition

[@jimbo8651]

Maybe the free market needs to get better than

[@supanagga]

Pressure of zoom call to make Justice Thomas to finally speak lolololololol

[@SpencerB51]

The $2500 mandate is meant to hurt the middle class I personally was affected by it two different times it’s wrong!!!!!!

[@surfpunx8809]

Yes

[@doriwilson6991]

But it was removed by the trump administration. That was one of the rules that never should have been put in place. Not everyone was able to get insurance through the ACA and shouldn't be forced into getting insurance that was so expensive that they were struggling to pay the premiums.

[@chengkeattan2597]

Why don't the USA look at the countries that implement free medical care how they do it. Rather than all these nonsense of penalizing the citizens. The countries that give free medical have been able to admistrate free medical . What is the problem with USA.???

[@goldieirish9958]

YES!!! ONLY AMY ASKED MY QUESTION!! Why didnt Congress repeal it!! Because they could simply put a price back on anytime

[@johnpaval9646]

There is a very simple answer to the question why Congress did not repeal the entire ACA act: BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE THE VOTES TO DO SO. They had the votes to cancel the mandate, but not to cancel the rest. That is not the sort of thing that gets discussed in judicial proceedings but it is certainly the sort of thing that really counts when disputed legislation is passed, amended, or ended in Congress... And I would argue that the fact that they did not have the votes to cancel the whole act is somewhat compelling evidence that Congress did NOT agree or legislate the cancellation of the whole act, no matter what language about severability is found in the act itself. In other words, Congress did NOT want to cancel the provisions about pre existing conditions and other consumer protections which are in the ACA. If THAT was the will of Congress, then Congress could have and would have done so.

[@stephentropy]

“If you make law less coercive, how does it make it more of a command?” 💀 Justice Kagan with the dunk 1:17:10

[@tiastorie6599]

Get rid of Roberts🙄what a blackmailed judge.

[@44HardCase]

Agreed! Totally compromised!

[@lolacullen3366]

WHAT ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION MR ROBERTS! THATS WHY YOU'RE A JUDGE SIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@excuseme9712]

So intimidation of some future possible enforcement that is unconstitutional.... Why....because rule by fear.

[@marshamccarn4030]

ThankQ Tore, for sharing your life & this journey. I asked GOD OUR FATHER, what we are going to do for you & about your situation. HE smiled. How cool, HE knows I will attack your enemies with everything I have, including commanding The Host of Heaven. And we know our weapons are not carnal, but they are Mighty, to the pulling down of strongholds & more. 🙏🇺🇸💪✌

[@bascal133]

Without the ACA I wouldn’t have had access to mental health care as a broke college student when I ran out of free sessions at my college. I was in my early 20s and on my parents plan.

[@AndTheCorrectAnswerIs]

Great.....so you had healthcare at the expense of thousands of others (like me) who could no longer afford their doubled rates under the ACA.

[@VaidasJSP]

So you took money out of other peoples pockets. Does you conscience tingle?

[@bascal133]

@@VaidasJSP I think you are confused.? The ACA made it so you can stay on your family insurance until age 26. I was using was my dad's insurance from his employer that he paid for every month. I feel grateful :)

[@bascal133]

@@AndTheCorrectAnswerIs I can tell you are a kind person so I'm sure you're glad to read mine and other comments showing that your sacrifice benefited others. I absolutely agree that Healthcare is a right (and because of that MUST be affordable). It sounds like we would both like to see Medicare for All so everyone's individual cost will go down :) fingers crossed!

[@duaneelsbree3460]

Aca sure screwed up health insurance for everyone else

[@adriannikos]

Why have a majority of Americans been programmed to regularly visit with drug dealing butchers as a rule in the first place? This waste of resources on display here is putting the cart before the horse for the human being with any residual conscious whatsoever.

[@shiben2420]

B"H Loking forward to the hearing in regards to the 2020 election . And the whole world will see how President trump takes the 2020 2nd term Beazrat Hashem

[@daddymcsnacks_561]

This didn't age well Killa 😂

[@byourfruit7058]

Michael Mongan - It's not really a big deal because there's not really a penalty... Chief Justice - Boy bye

[@Chasred-ml4hm]

"Well!! that's a much more arrogant family than mine"

[@grahamchapman889]

He actually said, "well, that's a much more *organized* family than mine" according to the Court transcript (pg. 101, lines 11-12). Audio probably just garbled it

[@Chasred-ml4hm]

@@grahamchapman889 if you listen carefully you can hear the judge laughing in the background afterwards. I think they were pretty much fed up with the argument. My opinion

[@Chasred-ml4hm]

"Well that's a much more Arrogantized family than mine." I've played it several times and that is what was said.

[@grahamchapman889]

@@Chasred-ml4hm Sure, but *officially*--that is, according to what the Court transcribed and posted online--it's "organized"

[@annbrucepineda8093]

I was harassed for months on-line by healthcare providers threatening that i would be charged $600 to $700 each year, whether in a tax or a fine then, if I did not buy into the provisions of the ACA. I live abroad and was told by the person who prepares my taxes that I should not be charged anything. I have a health insurance policy where I live, with the same provider whose policies were a benefit I received when I worked in a private school here. I was charged less than $400 a year then, in about 2000 when I retired, for coverage which gave me the right to choose my own doctor and with no exclusions. Twenty years later I pay about $800 a year. Btw, Justice Kagan and Justice Sotomayor are very rude.

[@tertiary7]

11 Americans died from lack of healthcare during this 2 hours.

[@Russeljfinch]

200 died of boredom

[@Mateo-kl2nn]

@@Russeljfinch and one died of ignorance (No offense, just a joke)

[@MrYourfriendbutters]

Well they are only taking about insurance and not healthcare

[@mrscavayeah7453]

Are you prepared with other per-hour death statistics in America? Or is that a cherry-picked stat for the purposes of some unspoken argument you’re making?

[@susanjordan2130]

Mandates that are not laws can not force me to do anything. Unconstitutional to force my medical issues.

[@BrickMudge]

DUMP ACA!

[@ellengoode1855]

Unconstitutional commands are nullified!!!!!!

[@mbonisisiyakatshana8469]

The easiest path to fix this, is for Congress to modify ACA to be a full HealthCare Tax to all Tax Payers at a particular % of Assessable Income. ie: 2%. Apply the tax to both Companies and persons. If a person already has private Health Insurance, they will get a full tax deduction of the entire 2%, thus negating the cash outflow. Essentially bringing down the HealthCare Tax payable to $0. Those persons without Private Health Insurance will not have a Tax Deduction and thus will pay the full 2% HealthCare Tax. The Government then buys HealthCare Private Insurance from Insurance companies (on the Market) on behalf of the tax payer. The Insurance covers the following full tax year. During the Tax year, the tax payer only deals with the Insurance company. Thus essentially making the Government an Insurance Broker. When the Government acts as an Insurance Broker, it has high Buyer Power, thus can drive down Insurance Premiums (the Government pays to these Insurance companies). This strategy bypasses the constitutional wall, that stipulates Government cannot force Citizens into a Commerce trade. This strategy just becomes a tax matter, of which Government has the constitutional power to tax Citizens. As an Australian, this is how we get taxed for Health Insurance. The principles I have mentioned above, flow in our Australian Health Tax Laws.

[@bleacherz7503]

2% wont cut it, healthcare costs are too high. We spend 4-5 trillion a year on healthcare

[@gottaloveitgottaloveit8273]

Thank u for explaining thank u

[@MrYourfriendbutters]

Is that a direct or indirect tax?

[@mbonisisiyakatshana8469]

@@MrYourfriendbutters it would be a direct Tax. 2% on Assessable Income to ALL tax payers, will generate a lot of cash inflow into the cash reserves of the Government to then purchase Private Health Insurance on behalf of the Tax payer. I just came up with 2%, but the Senate can fine tune the best % to use.

[@mbonisisiyakatshana8469]

@@bleacherz7503 Health Care costs are too high because we Accountants make them too high. If you exam the cost sheet of a hospitalized patient in a Private Hospital vs Government Hospital: you will wonder why on earth is there a huge delta. This is bcoz the Private Hospital wants to milk and milk you dry so at to drive their Stock Price Up the roof. Have a look at the Germans Health Care system. They use the latest Hospital equipment yet their hospitalization cost sheets are very low.

[@nobodynobody9057]

C-span your WJ show has got everyone at each others throat.

[@sueangelhurley]

Justice Breyer has a very condescending manner of speaking!!!!

[@summertime104]

Yes, and his points seem to irrelevant, airy fairy, elitist, or they lack conclusively, they do not tie back to the fundamental argument.

[@taidecker1437]

Why no video? We can't INNOVATE the Judicial Branch?

[@TylerAven10]

They spoken on the issue before and the main reason is that their worried that it will change the way they argue about the decisions of the court, it will make it too similar to showmanship and appealing to catchy soundbites. This statement was held by Kagan and Alito who certainly are not members of similar political spectrums.

[@taidecker1437]

@@TylerAven10 yeah, we want more transparency not less how Judge's argue now, which is to treat the US Constitution as a waste basket, created the de facto Communist secret tribunals

[@TylerAven10]

@@taidecker1437 Are you really gonna argue that public opinions on cases, transcripts on a publicly accessible website and audio recordings of every case is a lack of accessibility. I think it’s a dangerous premise to call this anything close to a communist dictatorship

[@taidecker1437]

@@TylerAven10 Yes, I'm arguing specifically that. Prosecutors would likely have to drop the undue influences of excessive charges to force a plea bargain instead of charging the apparent crime and allowing these issues to be decided by a jury of one's peers We have, by our own laziness, reluctance to serve on juries, etc. allowed de facto Communist (read: kangaroo courts) in Dense Urban Geographies such as Alameda, San Francisco, Marin, Solano and to a lesser extent Santa Clara (albeit not revisited in some years in that county specifically) county judicial systems. Have you ever tried reporting on the secret tribunals we have allowed called "Behavioral Health Courts" (150 of such as of a DEACDE ago)? www.eastbaytimes.com/2010/09/07/new-alameda-county-court-aims-to-help-mentally-ill/ How would we know which Political prisoners have been spirited away, drugged and kidnapped, shuttled between 'health' facilities that obscure their abuses under the color of authority as 'patient privacy', etc.? How have we allowed this to happen? Because we aren't curious, assume (ass+u+me) too much and don't really care about the unpopular Civil Rights our Founding Fathers knew as critical & necessary to protect against the collusion of interests of unrestrained central authority & the financial industries we tacitly create. Yes, I'm arguing just that because the function of the ADVERSARIAL press is all but non-existent in the Dense Urban Grographies where domestic terror is favored over the role & rule of laws. State Bars are a prime example of this failure.

[@BobO-th3fq]

I always thought the task of the Supreme Court was to measure laws passed by the states and Congress and their compliance with the Constitution to see if they were proper. Kind of like in accordance with the Constitution. Seems their role is evolving into that of a Congressional assistance wing. When the Un-affordable Care Act was originally adjucated by the Supreme Court, Justice Roberts couldn't find rationale in the Constitution for support of the law and the penalty mandate. So he creatively came up with the idea to call it a tax (which Congress can do). Now that the mandate (tax)has been (repealed/offset/eliminated/removed), there is no basis for continuing a law that has no (appropriated) funding. After listening to the conversations this morning it seems the task at the Supreme Court is to (be creative) and come up with or devise some other rationale to keep it in place. Still with no money, but soon to be turned into or toward a single payer Government Health Care System and be fully funded by taxpayer dollars. Legislating from the bench.

[@tonilharmon]

Universal healthcare is the way to go.

[@BobO-th3fq]

Tell that to the people of Cuba or Venezuela for starters. They love their health care and they can keep their doctor. That is if the can find one.

[@raybrensike42]

When are we going to get lawyers or whatever that just tell the judge, "Look your honor, I'm not here about people not mowing their laws in some fictitious city. You can be the judge of all of that. I'm just representing my client, and I'm not even sure if he has a lawn mower. If he does, I've never even seen it."?

[@thomasdunham5427]

the health care workers will definately let you know how they fell,it,s a scarey situation...

[@terraraemihaljevic9179]

I'm leaving Pennsylvania For Texas a Constitutional State

[@mischafellner2892]

“Thinks it is good for them!” His words. Media advertises these polices and fools us into beliefs. Not always good ones.

[@barryvallen1072]

Kol ha kavod. Thanks for the info. All the honour to u

[@videoman4734]

This case boils down to who has more expenses, the state or the individual.

[@nutsackmania]

The state is the only mechanism for redistribution in a society where wealth continues to concentrate.

[@videoman4734]

@@nutsackmania the tax payers are the ones that pay the taxes to the state. I think Congress and the American people should ask themselves why is there only 6146 hospitals in the United States for 334,000,000 people. That's one reason why health insurance and hospitals are so expensive.

[@Unam469]

nutsackmania until wealth concentrates in the state.

[@the.living.man.]

The ACA is a violation of the tenth amendment of the constitution. The Federal government cannot mandate through fines or imprisonment that a citizen purchase private goods or services. It'd be no different if the government mandated you bought a certain amount of Pepsi every month, or face a fine for not complying. It is a violation of peoples rights, and an overreach of power. I'm sorry that you cannot understand the Constitution.

[@the.living.man.]

@@nutsackmania Right, because "GoFundMe" doesnt exist, or charities. Only the holy mother of the State herself can handle such problems... facepalm

[@robertberes5544]

It is a financial harm.

[@newtonferrers1]

Kagan destroyed that numpty at 1:17:10 ahaha

[@Itisfinished.]

Dallas goldberg is a legend.

[@dunwundering835]

always been unconstitutional ~

[@terik7304]

Yes challenge everything, your missing the point oh and by the way your anger shows every thing. WE THE PEOPLE SEE AND HEAR YOU! WE ARE NO LONGER ASLEEP!

[@goldieirish9958]

Sotomayor is Democrat right?

[@immigrationlaw51]

Because, Kagan, Congress has constitutional authority to tax citizens but not to 'mandate' them. Lots and lots and lots of Americans have figured it out. Do we need to wait for you to catch up?