UADx Native Plugins + Spark Subscription Explained! (DSP vs NATIVE Null Test)

[@TheOnlineBusker]

Just to add, Ed is the only KZbinr that is like a real TV presenter. Marvelous work!

[@EdThorne]

Haha. You’re very kind. I do my best😊🙏

[@RonnieLeBlancMusic]

thank you man! I was upset until you clarified they are compensating us.

[@EdThorne]

We have the best of both worlds. Aero latency DSP tracking and monitor routing flexibility plus the ultimate mixing DSP/CPU combination!

[@Dramatello]

One thing I hope people realize about Spark (which I didn't know)... the Spark subscription does NOT give you the DSP version of the plugins! So for example, you will have the UADx version of the Neve plugin, but you will NOT be able to use it as a preamp (unless of course, you bought it regardless of the subscription). Just something to keep in mind.

[@EdThorne]

If you buy a Native Bundle though you get the DSP versions! The Spark subscription is designed for those who don't have an Apollo and therefore can't access the DSP versions. If you own an Apollo and own DSP plugins, you will get the Native version for free if you set up a UA connect account. They're making it pretty enticing really.

[@pat-enz]

I have too many UA Plugins. This is a fair deal. I finally get to work with these during my long commutes.

[@HomeStudioRescue]

Cool video man! I have mixed feelings about this. I'm happy the plugins are not dependent on DSP now, but not happy that my Quad Satellite is basically worthless. I totally love using the plugins on the Apollo in real-time, but sigh... this is bitter-sweet. One upside is I have access to plugins that aren't a part of the subscription and can now use as many UAD plugins as my computer can handle. No more DSP errors.

[@EdThorne]

It’s definitely not worthless. Think of the power you now have with CPU AND DSP?

[@tylerdengler6960]

If it helps, if you already own the DSP version of the plugins that are in UAD Spark’s subscription, then you get those plugins for free.

[@davidmaraisthecampfireguit2596]

All the UA plug-ins you own will be available for free in Spark (including all future plug-ins) for dsp owners. It’s win-win for all. Brilliant move.

[@CJ-ly8wg]

@@EdThorne agreed cpu +dsp as well as the dsp plugins have a smoother high end imo

[@JustMamba]

I hope they give the option to buy them natively. I've wanted the la2a forever but didn't want to buy an apollo for one plugin.

[@EdThorne]

Sadly, no.

[@JoaoRelego]

@@EdThorne what if he buys straight from the UA store? 🤔 Technically wouldn't he have access to the native version, although not having UA hardware?

[@EdThorne]

@@JoaoRelego The UADx Native plugins are not available for sale individual. If you own/purchase the correlating DSP version, you will get the UADx versions for free.

[@JustMamba]

@@atrosion1097 I have waves, vc 2a, and cakewalk ca2a. I just really wanted to try out the uad version because it always wins shootouts on KZbin.. oh well maybe I'll try our a month eventually.

[@laurentschark]

Excellent video Ed, as always

[@EdThorne]

Thanks, Laurent! I hope you're well!

[@nucentury08]

MAN MY X6 Rack just Updated 100% Along with my New AVID S1 and IPad Pro 11.5 😎🎯 I just realized or should I say it said in that you said if you already own what they’re offering you can receive them free natively and I own the heritage edition which comes with the LA to a collection along with the leveling collection and pure plate Nice just checked my ILOK have New UA native plug ins that I don’t have to pay for each month UA Thank you!! this makes up for the 15$ Thunderbolt 3 Cable you don’t put in the 2700$ 3000$ 1200& 900$ Apollo Interface’s Boxes 😅😎.

[@EdThorne]

🔥🔥

[@kennyp2531]

I would buy individual or even packs but would never support subscriptions. Subscription with no purchase option is what hurt Adobe and send people looking for alternatives

[@cjclarkmusic]

If I’m not mistaken, there’s nothing stopping people from buying the plugins outright, then getting a perpetual Spark/Native version of it. Right?

[@kennymontana8194]

I'll gladly pay for the one(s) that I want. While I understand why from a financial end it makes sense for companies to go after subscriptions and they also can be cheaper for the user, I don't agree with no option for a one time payment. Subscriptions coming at you from everywhere now can quickly get out of control and quickly drive peoples recurring monthly expenses through the roof.

[@michaelkronenberg3712]

But if I have UAD-2 Satellite with plugins, how can I use spark without paying subscription? I don't see option to download spark as a separated program. Or I just can't find it?

[@EdThorne]

Head to UAs website, login, download the UA Connect app, and further details will prompt you how to redeem your Native versions of the plugins you own. (Note, not all plugins are native so some may not appear)

[@samprock]

Is there native VST without Spark payment, hope yes? Though there is no Moog native magically outside of Luna, right?

[@EdThorne]

Yes VST is available if you already own DSP versions of the plugins available in Spark (added value bonus for Apollo owners). No, they’re not available for individual sale otherwise, Subscription only. Same for Moog - available in LUNA (with an Apollo) or in the subscription only.

[@samprock]

@@EdThorne Thanks foe the answer! Got it for plugs, did not realize not all available as VST/AU. For the Moog though, I own a license already. Simple question. Can I play it in my DAW as VST/AU without Spark subscription and without Luna? It’ll take at least one more month for Ultra to ship, dying to know if can play MoogMini under Ableton just as any regular soft-synth (with dongle or Apollo connected)

[@justlivinginthematrix6260]

So you can’t track vocals with these plugins on ur appolo twin interface ?

[@EdThorne]

No. Only DSP plugins that run on your Apollo can be integrated with the Unison preamps. These are native so run on your computer.

[@jakejjohnson1714]

If you were in the market to now purchase an apollo interface, which would you buy the solo or twin x? I was thinking of purchasing the twin x because of the extra DSP but with the plugins being able to go native now does it now make more sense to go with the SOLO interface and pay nearly half the price for it?

[@EdThorne]

Always a Twin X (additional outputs, ADAT in, extra DSP useful for tracking with monitor processing and Unison plugins (for which UADx/Spark Plugins are not compatible).

[@jakejjohnson1714]

@@EdThorne Thanks for the response, what if you were only using mainly virtual instruments? I won't be doing much live recording.

[@FatNorthernBigot]

About time. (although, I did check it wasn't April 1st)

[@EdThorne]

Haha. It was close though wasn’t it? 🤣

[@FatNorthernBigot]

@@EdThorne 😁For years I've heard people suggesting UAD will eventually go native, and UAD users (including myself) defending the hardware DSP and trying to convince others it'll never happen... Now it has! I honestly was looking at the date.🤣

[@DuckForPope]

I feel like this is a bad move for UA. They're basically revealing to the world that their software never required any extra mystical DSP dedicated hardware to function and sound great. Don't get me wrong, both the hardware and software that UA sell are high quality products and the combination does provide near zero latency. But to be told we need hardware to power the software has just been revealed to be one big con.

[@secondslate7158]

I think it's been a fairly obvious open secret for close to a decade now. External DSP can be nice but you need a lot of it these days to give enough of a reason to use it over being fully native given how fast modern computers are.

[@DuckForPope]

@@secondslate7158 especially now that the M1 has arrived!

[@EdThorne]

I hear you but There is SO much value in the Apollo besides mixing with UAD plugins! The value in the Apollo is in the Unison Preamps, UAD plugins, near zero latency whilst monitoring with the plugins, the ability to print these monitoring effects as you record, it’s expandability with other UA devices, AND it’s desktop controller functionality. Plus, the monitor routing flexibility is far superior.

[@DuckForPope]

@@EdThorne I'm inclined to agree, I really appreciate being able to use UAD plugins during a live performance and the Apollo twin is a superbly clean interface. But the vast majority of the plugins UAD herald are not typical plugins that many would print while tracking. Or maybe that's just me. 🤷‍♂️ Ultimately it would have made more sense to me to just release native versions of the software alongside the UAD hardware specific ones from day one. 😅

[@DuckForPope]

@@EdThorne plus thinking in terms of things like my PCIe octocard.. It's sole use is for mixing UAD plugins 😅

[@billesposito2112]

Opal sounds amazing!

[@EdThorne]

I know right?! 🔥

[@stuartmurphy2267]

Can I run the Spark plugins along side DSP versions in my apollo?

[@EdThorne]

Absolutely!

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Nice! Thanks for your channel!! Keep It up!

[@EdThorne]

@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE Thanks for the support. I hope it’s helpful 🙂🙏

[@billesposito2112]

Ed I'm new to Mac I tried to update Luna and install UA connect which I did for both but when I try to open the new Luna icon on my Mac screen it starts the process all over again wanting me to drag the Luna icon into the apps icon . Then if I try to replace the older version it tells me that I have Luna open . It's downloaded already the only way I got it to continue was to keep both versions but what do I do after highlighting the 2nd version of luna it finder . If I try to open it's just gonna start all over . I got the UA connect page downloaded but when I click on Spark plug-ins on the page it remains empty . I got the email saying I'm good to go with the trial. Does it take time to populate ? It's been 20 minutes and still nada.

[@EdThorne]

Do you have an Apollo? You can only run LUNA with an Apollo connected.

[@billesposito2112]

Yes I have an apollo I've been recording for a month or so already . I'm just trying to update and get the spark plug ins. My problem is with the Mac. I have ua connect I got emails telling me I'm set then I just got one from ua saying we see you haven't downloaded ua connect and plug ins . I have 3 ua connects on my screen and in finder. Is there an installer besides the Luna software update because I've done that already too

[@billesposito2112]

Does it matter if I used a different email then the one that's on my UA account? I have 2 emails that are almost identical only one letter different . I got the emails but from them saying my trial started and to download the plugins .Its not the one that i registered my Apollo with when I bought it. This digital realm is new to me . I was an analog man. I know I'm a pain in the ass but you seem to be the man to go to for anything UA. I should call them because they are gonna have to switch it if it is the problem. Thanks

[@davidtravermusic]

So now if I we buy a new DSP version of a plug-in in (and not enter into the subscription) is the native version of the plug-in included?

[@tylerdengler6960]

Not automatically, but they (native version of plugins) become free once you sign up for the subscription if you own the DSP version.

[@EdThorne]

My understand from UA directly is that you don’t need the subscription if you already own the DSP versions. You just to set up a UA connect account and link to your iLok.

[@EdThorne]

@@PreviousAccount528 I suspect they’ve been inundated with new Connect accounts and support requests. Hopefully they’ll appear soon.

[@ebgamezzz7193]

I got sent an email with a link to download connect. When I signed in I could activate everything there apart from API as I have the legacy version. Then downloaded. No iLok required

[@perhoier2881]

Yes. If the native version if a purchased DSP plugin exists, it's included for free.

[@christiansandoval2193]

So glad i always kept my old setup... Native all the way..

[@sebastianbaigorria5165]

That means i can use them on an Audient interface, for example?

[@EdThorne]

I think you mean you can use them WITH an Audient? Yes, absolutely. In any DAW supporting VST/AU/AAX formats!

[@JoeyFTL]

The subscription works with (or without) any interface, but it's Mac OS only for now

[@vicesquadpunk]

Monthly subscriptions are only suitable for people who have regular steady incomes, ironically a lot of professional recordists, writers and engineers haven’t got that stability. Especially since pandemic destroyed the income of musicians who would normally pay for mixing and mastering services. I am sure those who treat recording as a glorified side project or who are extremely wealthy/successful will disagree with me here but the reality of lower paid work, increasing rents, electricity and so forth make life extremely hard for full time musicians.

[@DarkRoastRecording]

Only thing left to know of importance is how does your CPU handle the X plugins vs using the DSP? Would I buy a UA Apollo interface/satellite or a new computer?

[@DarkRoastRecording]

Answered here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nprdeKVthq6Gbq8

[@gigifara9312]

amazing by uad

[@colonelw.g.sparkman6931]

So sounds like I’ll need to purchase an I- lock device in order to run these natively?

[@EdThorne]

iLok is a free online account. There are hardware versions available but the online accounts suffice for these UADx plugins (and all others as far as I know).

[@colonelw.g.sparkman6931]

@@EdThorne thanks so much! I already have an account set up, so I should be good to go!

[@JohnMarshall-NI]

Cool video man. If you have any kind of relationship with UAD, can you suggest that they make the 176 and 175b collection, Ocean Ways Studios, and Capitol Chambers part of their native bundle?

[@EdThorne]

Thanks. I’m sure they’ll add more popular plugins in time.

[@JohnMarshall-NI]

@@EdThorne I think that having the more unique plugins would really help sell the subscription to new users, plus, I get the selfish pleasure of owning a native version of them! Thanks again for making the null test. The result is as expected, but useful to have it demonstrated.

[@edwardkenemorales]

If they are adding ocean way and capitol chambers to the plan, I am definitely jumping in.

[@ryancohenmusic]

Ed with UAD spark can I use the neve 1073 preamp in a UNISON slot? It won't let me. Does it make a difference if it doesn't go unison?

[@EdThorne]

Unison is an Apollo interface software & hardware integration for the Apollo preamp emulations. The Spark 1073 is a Native version of the plugin (for PC and Mac) to act as a stand alone plugin in your DAW. The Native plugins are also not useable in Console (because all of that processing is also done in the Apollo, and that’s what the original DSP versions are for).

[@ryancohenmusic]

@@EdThorne can I still use it as a microphone preamp in the Apollo?

[@EdThorne]

@@ryancohenmusic You can use the DSP version (which run on the Apollos where the preamps are). The Native versions DON’T run on your Apollo’s DSP, so no, they can’t be used as Unison preamps.

[@ryancohenmusic]

@@EdThorne but if I just throw the spark version in a plug in slot it will work? Thanks Ed

[@EdThorne]

@@ryancohenmusic In your DAW yes, but Spark (Native) plugins DO NOT WORK on your Apollo so you CAN NOT use them in Console (as an insert or Unison preamp!!!). All processing in Console (inserts, aux effects, and Unison) happens on your Apollo, not your computer.

[@westwalnutrecords]

Now it makes sense why they released the volt

[@EdThorne]

Free 30 day trial of Spark with Volt too.

[@hithere4289]

@@kehindea UAD: waves 2.0

[@hithere4289]

So this means that their DSP units were just another form of business which they might not be selling around too much anymore and thats why they are resorting to a subscription based environment? What is this? Waves 2.0?

[@EdThorne]

There is SO much value in the Apollo besides mixing with UAD plugins! The value in the Apollo is in the Unison Preamps, near zero latency whilst monitoring with the plugins, the ability to print these monitoring effects as you record, it’s expandability with other UA devices, studio grade conversion, mic pres, and headphone amplifiers, un-paralleled monitor routing flexibility, AND its desktop controller functionality! You have the best of CPU & DSP worlds now. Still above all other systems!

[@peternorth6782]

No, it doesn't mean that at all. Try using UAD plugins 10 years ago with any top of the line compurt.

[@odysseytrek2842]

How's the CPU hit?

[@EdThorne]

I managed to forget to test this. Tbf, I wrote, filmed, edited, and uploaded the video in 6 hours. My last audio interface video took me TEN days!!

[@Arthur_My_Dear]

So does Unison really make any difference in any way you can actually hear?

[@EdThorne]

Unison does absolutely. Check this out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hn6bh2yol553lZY

[@Arthur_My_Dear]

@@EdThorne Steve Kinney recorded a plugin through Unison and a Spark version and they nulled. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmS7hKumnpxnpsU

[@billesposito2112]

YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@TheOnlineBusker]

The other day I decided I'd had enough of Waves, and got rid of all of it. The stupidly annoying Waves Central has driven me crazy for years, why not just sell their bloody plugins as downloadable VST etc and that's it, but I digress. So from that moment I said I'm only going to mix using my Fabfilter and SSL suites of plugins, as there is everything I need....... are these plugins "better" in some way than what I'm using now? Cheers Ed, great vid as always!

[@Poepopdestoep]

No, they are not better. But some have different flavors. With what you have, Fabfilter en SSL you have most of what you need. Both are quality plugins.

[@EdThorne]

I haven’t used the SSL plugins but I hear good things. Try out these new UADx plugins for 14 days for free and see what you think. I pretty much solely use UAD & FabFilter. Plus a couple Tone Empire and Mastering The Mix plugins. That’s about it.

[@iam-music]

I got around my ugly experience with UAD1 > UAD2 and being left behind...no more dsp cards for me. I still have my uad1s and still using them from 2005 as well as powercore. @The Online Busker...Let me quote my recent and STILL unresolved experience with waves Im done with waves after 20 years of supporting waves...get this.. my daw was damaged by lightning, got a temp replacement and had no choice but to 'recover' my licenses (365 day wait til next). Just finished a new daw build, restored licenses in a minute or so with everyone...except waves who demanded a list eg reasons why i need another recovery, receipts for new computer and need to pay wup on my licenses (v11)...nearly 2 weeks later and still nothing sorted. WARNING, KEEP AWAY FROM WAVES COERCIVE AND ARCHAIC SOFTWARE AND APPALLING CUSTOMER SERVICE. I am migrating my most important bits to brainworx...krauts know what they are.doing...no more ssl after discovering the vxs console...now THAT is more like it!!! WHAT HAVE I LEARNT FROM ALL OF THIS MINIMISE!!! Watch the 'minimalism' doco and apply it to your plugin list :-) The best plugins are the ones you know well! +1 For MTM Reference, its a game changer when used well

[@Polentaccio]

The waves model is a pain. I've not been able to recover a few older plugins i bought due to issues there. It should absolutely be as easy as plugin alliance is. But yet...it is not.

[@TheOnlineBusker]

@@Polentaccio Yeah Waves is absolute trash. I'll never use a Waves plugin ever again. There's an old saying..."you get what you pay for"...Waves are cheap.... the end haha

[@benoitpiret9065]

Soooo.... you dont need the hardware anymore now right seing the performances of a M2....

[@EdThorne]

Depends if you want unbeatable monitor processing with zero latency or not...

[@bboymac84]

Makes sense if you have the M1 computer. It can handle it

[@Poepopdestoep]

After my UAD-1 became obsolete i've never looked at DSP accelerated plugins again. Expensive plugins that i can not use anymore. Yes i know, UAD did a UAD-1 to 2 for a discount, but, i already paid for those plugins. Native is the only way to go to be future proof, for most plugins anyway.

[@Art_Of_Sound]

Same for me...I had already purchased a couple of UAD1...but Im still using them today :-)Still using my powercore too :-)

[@Poepopdestoep]

@@Art_Of_Sound Everything went 64bit, so no go for me :(

[@iam-music]

​@@Poepopdestoep I just used jbridge and load them as 64bit no probs. TBH, Im desperately trying to minimise...only using fairchild, 1176, etc...the ones that really matter but there is no way Im going to any subscriptions ever...would rather a couple of tools known well than endless options...learnt the hard way.

[@Poepopdestoep]

@@iam-music I've tried that (jbridge) but, it crashed everytime and could only use one plugin at a time. That wasn't worth it. And no, the only sub i use is adobe, by necessity.

[@iam-music]

@@Poepopdestoep i used the last version:1.6 and open each plugin, set 'aux host', close then restart cubase, then its good to go

[@1powerequalsgod]

I was not expecting native support but is it being driven by the chip shortage to making the hardware?

[@EdThorne]

Very possibly. And the need to stay competitive.

[@danielsanichiban]

When I saw the seemingly premature launch with only a few plugins ported and no windows support, I thought the same thing.

[@caspermaster-com]

What does it cost monthly? Waiting for windows version.

[@EdThorne]

$19.99(+local taxes). Somebody didn’t watch the video very far 🤣

[@caspermaster-com]

@@EdThorne Lol, thats the info you want ASAP 🤣

[@justin.johnson]

Decision time. My Slate sub is still running. Have several purchased Waves and over $3,000 in purchased UAD plugs and hardware. They need to give me Waterfall for free!

[@musiccreation1198]

Also available for $150 annual sub = $12.50 per month.

[@dannyprecysroadtoforever5234]

To all the UA fanboys that for years claimed that UA plugins sounded better because of DSP this video will require you to seek emotional and financial counseling.🤣🤣🤣

[@EdThorne]

Haha.

[@terrybanks5063]

too funny man 😂

[@ISaudio]

UADx versions of pultec and fairchild plugins would be amazing

[@EdThorne]

I’m sure they’re on their way - (probably) subject to licensing agreements.

[@vangeliskostoxenakis]

for some weird reason despite that i own 1176, vision ans LAs they show as demos in ilok and also had to enable subscription

[@vangeliskostoxenakis]

@@PreviousAccount528 neither did i, had to enable subscription and then they show as demos lol

[@perhoier2881]

Just notice the free Legacy versions of 1176 and LA2A does not count. It's got to be the MKII versions.

[@DanAdlingtonOnline]

I own an Apollo x6 and Apollo X16 as well as two Satelites. I don't consider their DSP Worthless. I built a i7 9700 CPU Windows PC for my studio and in my experience having the DSP is still worth it. Now UA had Native Plugins I can already hear people complaining the plugins slow their PC down.

[@EdThorne]

We have the best of both worlds now for sure!

[@Rhythmattica]

Good to know it just slows a PC down.

[@samueledmonds7358]

Native, unless you own an M1 mac - then its rosetta for you. I'll wait for the updates

[@EdThorne]

Apple Silicone is not ‘officially’ supported yet but the plugins are working fine on my M1 Mac Mini without Rosetta.

[@JayHartMusic]

once all the plugins are a go there will be no need for them satellites long as your computer is booted up with ram shidddd them apollos too I feel bad for whoever recently bout one lol

[@EdThorne]

There is SO much value in the Apollo besides mixing with UAD plugins! The value in the Apollo is in the Unison Preamps, UAD plugins, near zero latency whilst monitoring with the plugins, the ability to print these monitoring effects as you record, it’s expandability with other UA devices, AND it’s desktop controller functionality. Plus, the monitor routing flexibility is far superior.

[@nucentury08]

Yup Running on a M1 MBP Solid 😎 X6 Rack

[@EdThorne]

@@nucentury08 Similar to my set-up. M1 Mac Mini, X6+Twin+Octo Satellite.

[@trackmakazbeatz]

@@EdThorne Apollo sounds good but it’s 2022 everything is almost near zero latency especially if you have an M1 and the only reason why I kept my uad hardware is to use all the plugins I purchased I would rather use there plugins with an apogee interface if I’m being honest

[@EdThorne]

@@trackmakazbeatz Do you use the Unison preamp emulations/monitor inserts? All that processing power in sub 2ms latency is still better than any other interface.

[@wildbird78]

🤯

[@TheIgnoramus]

wooooord my twin just became that much better.

[@EdThorne]

Yeh man. Best of both worlds!

[@TheIgnoramus]

@@EdThorne I will say though After looking at the offering, Its not worth it $20 a month for that plugin selection. I already have a form of what they offer in some shape, albeit not as good, but good enough. If they had a non native version for UA hardware owners that was 30-50% of their total catalogue I would jump on it in a second.

[@TheIgnoramus]

so ill wait for the expansion lol

[@EdThorne]

@@TheIgnoramusI’m sure they will add even more value to the subscription.

[@MurdaMetz]

I’d never rent plug ins .

[@jghosttheconscious]

Subscription is not the way to go. Just buy them

[@bco0t6]

I have a keen ear, I’ve used both the DSPs and Natives and can hoe stay say the DSPs still give the best emulation of the hardware but the native plugins come in a really close second … especially if you don’t want to buy an Apollo or are working with a budget, there’s a slight difference in their color but beyond that not too much of a difference

[@josemendezfr]

UA themselves said that the plug ins are identical. Literally the same algorithms. Stop foolin yourself

[@Swizzenator]

Keyboard player are ya?

[@EdThorne]

Definitely not. I dabble enough to write songs.

[@Swizzenator]

@@EdThorne Same here bro. Thanks for the video🙏.

[@michaelperez5273]

I'm glad I didn't spend thousands of dollars for uad hardware and plugins 🤣

[@EdThorne]

There is SO much value in the Apollo besides mixing with UAD plugins! The value in the Apollo is in the Unison Preamps, UAD plugins, near zero latency whilst monitoring with the plugins, the ability to print these monitoring effects as you record, it’s expandability with other UA devices, AND it’s desktop controller functionality. Plus, the monitor routing flexibility is far superior.

[@peternorth6782]

You keep posting the same response on any UAD video. You work for waves or summit?

[@lewisblank9475]

Complete pisstake if you ask me Loyal customers for years have been shafted

[@LodvarDude]

How so? We get the native versions of the plugins we already own. No subscription needed.

[@favourhenshaw197]

@@LodvarDude exactly! And plus they’ll be adding other plugins as time passes so we’ll probably be able to run all the plugins that came with our units and those we’ve bought as well free of charge. It’s a win win if you ask me and I’ll probably end up cancelling my slate subscription if this becomes better.

[@EdThorne]

There is SO much value in the Apollo besides mixing with UAD plugins! The value in the Apollo is in the Unison Preamps, UAD plugins, near zero latency whilst monitoring with the plugins, the ability to print these monitoring effects as you record, it’s expandability with other UA devices, AND it’s desktop controller functionality. Plus, the monitor routing flexibility is far superior. AND we get all these native plugins for free giving us versatility and flexibility. It’s a bonus!