Ubuntu 5.04 - Installing & Exploring!!

After digging through my software pile, I found my physical copy of Ubuntu 5.04. Let's install and explore this Linux distribution from 2005 in this final video of 2023 from TheRetroRecall! Enjoy!
#retropc #nostalgia #linux #ubuntu #retro #ibm #operatingsystem #installation #aptiva

[@animeaspie9635]

My dad who isn't on this world anymore used Ubuntu linux in its infancy and i remember my first personal laptop 💻 having edubuntu on it those truly were the days

[@TheRetroRecall]

That's an amazing memory.

[@LatitudeSky]

That version of Ubuntu was what finally got linux in my home. I'd used Redhat and Solaris for years at work but Windows at home. Canonical Ubuntu was much more usable for me than Knoppix or Red Hat. Still run Ubuntu or Xubuntu on several PCs including my ancient Dell D630. Love it. Don't need anything else.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Awesome!!!!! Thanks for sharing and happy new year!

[@calvinjaynes1142]

Good old operating system for getting trouble shooting done on older systems, especially the live cd version. As a Windows user today I still love Linux and had this version years ago. I like Linux Mint today.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Awesome and yes I heard Linux Mint is also a great distro!

[@blackterminal]

I am also a fan of Linux mint.

[@LatitudeSky]

Mint IS Ubuntu. It just has different stuff on top. I use both Mint and Xubuntu, which is yet another version of Ubuntu. It is a very solid foundation to build on.

[@FlyboyHelosim]

@@LatitudeSky I prefer Xubuntu to stock Ubuntu or Mint, it feels less 'Fisher-Price' and the GUI is less resource-intensive.

[@TheRetroRecall]

What about Kubuntu?

[@VioletDragonsProjects]

Been using Ubuntu Desktop and Server for years now, hosting my own Production Mail Server and websites for both my Parents and my business using Linux. I’ve pulled everything out of cloud and hosting everything myself using Debian and some Ubuntu Servers too. Even deployed servers for big companies in the states for there on premises services. I love Linux and the stuff you can do with it too. Ubuntu 5 was before my time but started out in Linux back when I was 15.

[@TheRetroRecall]

That's awesome, it sounds like you are well versed in Linux and it is quite flexible as an OS. I'm looking forward to getting into it a bit more :)

[@VioletDragonsProjects]

@@TheRetroRecall well people got to start from somewhere. I loved Windows XP but when Vista came round the corner I lost interested in Windows completely.

[@king_and_country]

This was fantastic! I loved the old gnome DE. The look and feel just had a lot of character vs today where it feels pretty sterile unless you want to rice it or go with a fork. I usually go with KDE these days.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Yeah I've heard some good things about Kubuntu which I believe is the KDE experience?

[@JohnCrawford1979]

I don't know, the old style was similar to something between Windows 98 and XP. Kind of like how Microsoft considered itself limited by its attachment to DOS, many people feel Linux as a whole has been limited by Gnome, which I kind of feel is part of the sterility in modern Linux. There's only so much you can do to make Gnome not look like Gnome. Irony is that Windows seems to be trying to mimic Gnome these days. Of course, with their version, you get all the spyware, Microsoft spam, etc., and they pretty much lock you into using their store app, unless you get a version of Windows 11 that lets you unlock their safety features put on the Home version.

[@king_and_country]

Correct - Kubuntu would be Ubuntu with KDE set as the desktop environment. These days, it is easy enough to just install KDE on Ubuntu itself and switch the desktop environment on the login screen. Very flexible! @@TheRetroRecall

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thanks for this!! I'm going to be experimenting with some different distros.

[@Ptero4]

If you liked the old gnome 2.x you will like mate. It's the continuation of gnome 2.x

[@maxtornogood]

Nice to see you exploring a bit of Linux on the channel TRR, Happy New Year! 😃

[@TheRetroRecall]

Some thing new! Happy new years!

[@maxtornogood]

@@TheRetroRecall It's cool that you appeared to enjoy your 5.0 Ubuntu experience!

[@TheRetroRecall]

I just think it's cool that it felt natural even from a Windows user.

[@maxtornogood]

@@TheRetroRecall Modern day Linux Mint (Cinnamon) has a real Windows 7 look to it. Makes it easier to adapt to!

[@TheRetroRecall]

Great to know thank you :)

[@Squonk06]

Typing this currently on Ubuntu 23.10. We've come a loooong way since the days of 5.04, which would have been the second ever release of the OS (after 4.10 Warty Warthog). It's interesting seeing one of the early versions in use. I'd only seen Hoary in screenshots before this. It's still pretty close to vanilla Gnome, lacking much of the Ubuntu-specific branding and theming it would gain starting in the next release. Today, everything looks completely different, though many of the programs included in this early release still exist. They're not necessarily installed by default anymore, since common computing needs have changed a bit in the nearly 19 years since 5.04 came out. In fact, if you like the 5.04 interface, you can get a lot closer today by looking at something running the Mate interface, such as Linux Mint Mate or Ubuntu Mate. Mate (properly MATE, much as Gnome is properly GNOME, but most people ignore the capitalization) is a direct continuation of the Gnome 2 interface as seen from Ubuntu 4.10 through version 10.10, after which Ubuntu switched to their own Unity interface. Gnome went in a completely different direction with version 3, which prompted a fork of version 2, which is how Mate got started.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thanks for this insight, it is greatly appreciated! I'm going to be experimenting with some of these distros and am looking forward to the ride!!

[@camerontinker1948]

Ubuntu 7.04 was my first experience with Linux and Ubuntu is still one of my favorite distributions. I was in high school at the time and a friend of mine recommended Ubuntu as an alternative to Windows. The older Gnome desktop environment is very nostalgic. Thanks for the video!

[@TheRetroRecall]

No problem!! It was fun getting to explore it and see how easy it really was! I'm looking forward to exploring other distros. Thanks for watching!

[@vonhapen1]

Happy new year. Really nice seeing your growth over the last year. All that by keeping your style and authenticity. Keep up the good work. 👍🎉🎊

[@TheRetroRecall]

I try to keep true to myself and keep moving forward. I love the passion that comes from the Retro community and can only be grateful to be a part of it! Happy new year!

[@deadreaver666]

Happy New Year! Im trying to remember if my first version of Ubuntu was 5.04 or 6.04. Either way, it was VERY similar. Seeing you experience it "for the first time" and "as a windows user" brought me wayyy back to the days where I was in that same boat. I would main Ubuntu now but the Nvidia GPU passthrough to VMs just isnt there yet. I'd LOVE to see you get Beryl/Compiz running on there. Its easy nowdays but i remember spending a bunch of time getting the fancy windows decorations working.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Happy new year!! Yes it literally was an exciting experience for me and fun to bring to everyone! I will definitely be trying other distros now so see how they work :)

[@jw1ck]

The theme of this version is so tasteful and timeless! I love this!

[@TheRetroRecall]

It was fun to install and explore! Looking forward to getting into other distros.

[@paulmicandru5864]

Happy New Year! Please do more videos of this kind, I think it's really interesting to explore old versions of Linux distros, especially on older hardware.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Happy new year to you as well! I will definitely be exploring Linux a bit more as I come accross the various OS packages. I like when I have a physical copy to review VS just downloading it. It is something that has peaked my interest since this video :). Stay tuned!

[@pianokeyjoe]

who else is watching this on a modern Linux system while salivating at the retro Linux experience?

[@TheRetroRecall]

Hahahah now that would be an experience 💥

[@cosmicavatar773]

nice video, lately ive been wanting to tinker with some old linux distros form the late 90s-early 2000's. Im glad I was recommended this video. Have a happy new year! Keep up the good work.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Happy new year and thanks for watching!!

[@branscombe_]

105 videos! congrats! I can see a 10x in yours subs by this time next year! awesome content, amazing troubleshooting and excellent narration! :-) 🎉🥂✨

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thank you for being such a strong supporter of the channel!

[@Cyberdeamon]

O god, I remember you could order the CD's for free online and me being a shite, ordered 100+ CD's and they turned up so I gave em out like junk mail around the neighborhood.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Hahah what a memory, and to think how cool it is to have one of these today! In hindsight, I should have ordered every version haha!

[@branscombe_]

that APTIVA TOWER 🤩

[@TheRetroRecall]

Yes sir! Always on the hunt.

[@spike5552]

I love watching your videos, ❤ so i wish you good luck and a lot more videos 😊

[@TheRetroRecall]

That's awesome and thank you!! Stay tuned :)

[@simonlathwell]

What a nice way to start 2024 with a video from one of my favorite tech KZbinrs. Happy New Year to TheRetroRecall.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thank you!!! Happy new year to you as well!!

[@legoflashgamer]

Happy new year! Greetings from the Netherlands!

[@TheRetroRecall]

Happy new year from Canada!

[@georgez8859]

Great video on a linux operating system. Looking forward to more videos in 2024. Have a Happy New Year

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thank you and Happy New year to you as well!

[@Icantcomeupwithagoodname]

Nice video, you just earned yourself a sub :) Happy new year's!

[@TheRetroRecall]

Happy new year!!! Thank you and welcome aboard!

[@2xtreem4u]

Happy New Year!

[@TheRetroRecall]

Happy new year!

[@ZeroWalker26]

Happy new year or as we say in Sweden Good new year. Hope to see you grow even bigger in 2024. Ubunty was my introduction to Linux back when I was 20 around in the 2005-6s. Sure when I was 12-15 I knew about Red hat Linux and such but Ubuntu was my personal introduction to Linux.

[@TheRetroRecall]

That's awesome!! And Happy New Year from Canada! With your support we will!!! Thank you!

[@TheMarinemonkey]

Happy new year from Scotland.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Happy new year from Canada!

[@blackterminal]

Happy new year from New Zealand.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Happy new year from Canada!!

[@edsanchez87]

Hello RR I love the content Keep up the good work 👍

[@TheRetroRecall]

That's great, I'm happy you are enjoying! Stay tuned!

[@rezamolaee8185]

Happy New Year, good video I think I would install this version on my old P4 PC, cant do much with it these days but it warms my heart to see my old PC work again! obviously I would never connect it to the Internet.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Happy new year! Yes, I tend to restore quite a bit of systems on this channel, take a look! Always trying to preserve this equipment :)

[@justsumguy2u]

Happy new year, and congrats on all of your success in 2023! I love the Aptiva, especially the white case with the blue IBM logo. I'm not a fan of Linux myself, but I'll admit that it served a purpose

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thank you!!! Couldn't have done it without you!

[@JohnCrawford1979]

My first computer was an Aptiva. Not the tower version, but the flatter one that the monitor would sit on. Came with Win 3.11 and had some sort of wavetable audio card. Upgraded it later with Win 95 and installed a Creative Soundblaster AWE 32 to replace the original sound card. Of course had to add a 5 Gb hard drive and bumped up the RAM to, if I remember, 64 Mb so it could handle both the new hardware and software. processor remained a 60 Mhz 486, which may have bottlenecked performance, mostly in games and graphics heavy stuff, but it had about the best sound and worked great for music. Back then, until I had a computer that could handle recording and was able to create music CDs, I just used the audio jack to record music to tape on my boom box. Back then in those olden times, just being able to create a mix tape of my own music was pretty awesome!

[@TheRetroRecall]

Hahha that's so true, love this, thanks for sharing!

[@H31MU7]

I have this CD sitting around somewhere! I also have a yellow one... I remember filling out an online form and they sent them both to me for free.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Nice! I think the yellow one was for Mac?

[@ardeleanianis]

your videos are helping me so much

[@TheRetroRecall]

That's awesome to hear!!

[@branscombe_]

happy new year, TRR!! I found one of the small bags of those retro PC badges outside in the leaves! can you believe it :-)

[@TheRetroRecall]

No way! Let's connect in the new year, coffee and retro chat!

[@branscombe_]

@@TheRetroRecall 🤝☕️

[@TheRetroRecall]

Wishing you the best in 2024!

[@phucnguyen0110]

What a time to get this video recommended on my feed, especially after getting the freshly minted 24.04 LTS ISO and try that on my work laptop lol. Thank you!

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha, Awesome!!

[@fubaralakbar6800]

Started my Ubuntu journey back in 2010 with Karmic Koala. To this day, that is still the most beautiful operating system I've ever seen.

[@TheRetroRecall]

That's awesome! What do you use today?

[@fubaralakbar6800]

@@TheRetroRecall Pop OS. I also installed Linux Lite on a Dell potato I'm using as a client for a vintage HP Palmtop. I found Linux Lite to be so nice that I'm giving some thought to switching to it as my daily.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Nice!! I'll take a look at that as well.

[@Kasey9801]

I was first introduced to Ubuntu (and Linux as a whole) when it was installed on a PC that belonged to one of my now-deceased relatives and was given to me by my uncle. I believe that PC had Ubuntu 6.10 installed on it if I recall correctly. I remember really liking it back in the day, but like you, I was more of a Windows guy (and still am), so I ended up installing XP on it. Several years later, I heard about Linux Mint and decided to install it on a secondary PC. I was really impressed with it. So much so, that I may switch to it if Windows goes downhill. Also, I don't mean to be that guy, but GNOME is pronounced "guh-nome" in the Linux world.

[@TheRetroRecall]

I've heard a lot about Linux Mint being quite popular, I may have to give it a try. And please - be that guy, otherwise we never learn! :).

[@AlejandroRodolfoMendez]

Nice video i had those Disk it was around vista but i was transtion from 98 me and xp. Red hat gave Linux a bad rep and Conectiva was too green. The main container back then was mandriva. I gave a copy to my friends and the live can be use as partition resizer. Happy new year.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Awesome memory and thanks, I didn't know about the LIVE cd! I am planning on exploring Red Hat as well at some point on the channel for comparison and I am definitely goin to be diving into other Linux distros :). Thanks for watching!

[@MIJ-Tech]

I haven't used Ubuntu, but I have copies of Suse 8.1 and Red Hat 9, the latter of which I experimented with on a Socket 7 system years ago.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Nice!! I've never experienced either.

[@fra4455]

Great video✌

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thank you!!

[@fra4455]

@@TheRetroRecall thanks

[@carlosdantenicolasdelafuen1293]

Gracias 👋👋👋👍

[@TheRetroRecall]

You're welcome!

[@johnstancliff7328]

I remember discovering Ubuntu back then too! once I tried it I was hooked.... until I wanted to game.... then I was forced to go back to windows....

[@TheRetroRecall]

That is true - that's the number one thing I hear from a lot of people is that the Linux platform doesn't handle gaming really well. Most utilize Windows / emulation for that part.

[@LocovsworldNL]

i ordered these as well i think i got dapper drake (6.06) keep this cd well preserved its antique I lost mine. This how I got into packaging packages for Ubuntu back in the day. That said I started using Linux with Suse 6 and then Redhat 6 in 1998.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Nice! I'd like to attempt Redhat. Any recommendation on a version for fun - that would be retro ish?

[@amortalbeing]

when we found about ubuntu mailing the cds for free, my friends and I went on a head and got a ton of CDs both for ourselves and whoever we knew. it was a great time back then:)

[@TheRetroRecall]

Love this memory! Yes, I mean I just ordered the one, however I wish I ordered more throughout the years haha. Thanks for sharing!

[@remoschramm]

nice to see this old version of ubuntu comming to life again i own a retail version of ubuntu 5.10 for powerpc but don't have a powerpc mac to try it

[@TheRetroRecall]

Agreed, it was definitely a cool experience for me. I wonder what differences there would have been between 5.10 and 5.04 other than the system it supported.

[@chrislinuxtutorials5283]

I remember how you would be the cool guy when everyone was running Windows XP, but you used Linux. I miss the days of early Linux and early OSes in general. I recently discovered this channel, and it is a hidden gem! Please keep exploring old OSes!

[@TheRetroRecall]

Welcome aboard and agreed! Although I have been a Windows guy, Linux and of course other older OS's have been intriguing me.

[@oldradioguy65]

Happy New Year!!

[@TheRetroRecall]

Happy new year!!

[@JeffBreyer]

I had this CD back in the day. And i just found the Kubuntu CD just the other day. what a time. And i just discovered opening the case that I had stuffed the Ubuntu 5.10 disc in there as well.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha that's awesome!! It was fun doing this video.

[@eveypea]

Ubuntu 4.10 was my first 'real try' of installing Linux at home. I got my copy from a disc attached to a computer magazine that had articles about it. Previously I had tried Red Hat from a boxed copy in 2000 whilst in High school. The ease of installation by comparison was night and day between the two distributions. After Ubuntu I tried Fedora Core 4, but ultimately went back to Ubuntu. I don't miss the nightmare with Wifi issues in my laptop from back then, but boy was it nice to use. The only thing I'd say you were missing on in this video was the sound effects. The sound upon login was soo much better than the WIndows XP startup sound. Do yourself a massive favour and plug in a pair of speakers. You're in for a real treat

[@TheRetroRecall]

Will do and thanks! I never thought about speakers, but I normally do. Next vid!

[@PiercedJedi]

it would be cool to see a series of either running a different named version (Warty Warthog, Hoary Hedgehog, Breezy Badger, etc.) on equipment you have saved from the e-waste up to the highest the systems can support, OR an upgrade series where you install the oldest you can get and see how far you can upgrade it. I support Ubuntu Server 20.04 & 22.04 in my position at MS, (we only do LTS installations to ensure maximum compatibility and support) and before that I had only played with it a few times, most of my Linux experience had been much older and less, friendly distributions. I had never even heard of Knoppix till I started watching your videos... Congrats on a great year in YT, and I look forward to future videos.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Those are actually great ideas!! Thanks for that. Also, thanks for your kind words and for supporting the channel. It's very much appreciated!

[@PiercedJedi]

@@TheRetroRecallGlad you think they're good ideas :)

[@zetsuboushinjiruu9350]

Linux needs appreciation and fame

[@TheRetroRecall]

I really liked Ubuntu. Hoping the latest version is as easy to use!

[@zetsuboushinjiruu9350]

@@TheRetroRecall yes it is, i've been an Ubuntu user for a long time and it's easy to use.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Love it. I will definitely try it out.

[@zetsuboushinjiruu9350]

​@@TheRetroRecall It's free and safe to be use rather than windows. Good luck dear Friend

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thank you for your help!!!! Happy new year!

[@williambaldwin9346]

The foot was the icon for the Gnome desktop environment

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thanks!

[@joshzwies3601]

I got it from a kid at school, he was handing them out like gospel tracts.

[@TheRetroRecall]

LOL!

[@ShadowPriestBear]

theres another cd box set on yellow for 64x system. Here in Arg were very common those ubuntu cds.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Nice!

[@EscimoGamer]

Awesome. What you showed is great. Since then, Ubuntu has become a very serious sortware and in my opinion one of the best Linux operating systems that Linux has. Installing Linux Ubuntu on old computers is a great thing, but not today, because the latest versions of Ubuntu are very serious, just like Windows itself, if not much more serious. Linux Mind could be installed on an older computer because it takes up much less space than Ubuntu, and I think it could work on computers from 2007 onwards, and I mean the latest version of it. Linux as an operating system is relatively strong and good and almost equal to Windows itself, the only drawback in my opinion is that you can't play games directly on Linux like on Windows. I really don't know why developers and gaming studios are not working on making games for Linux as well which would be great. Like for video. 🤗

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thanks for this insight, much appreciated! I love all of the feedback, tips and tricks everyone is leaving for me. It really helps me for when I am ready to dive into Linux!

[@JohnCrawford1979]

You have to understand that Linux for a long time was thought of in two ways, and at least one of those views was something the Linux community at the time prided itself in. The first concept was Linux as not a 'serious' OS, but something of a hobbyist's OS. It was a freebie, so why would commercial businesses, including AAA game companies want to do anything with it? It also hurt that Nvidia for the longest time didn't support Linux, and often produced faulty drivers when it did. That had left some bad blood between Linux users and one of the biggest gamer oriented companies in the world for at least a decade. The second one, which the Linux community has always boasted, is how Linux is great for use in making reliable internet servers. Solaris was a big one on this, but that virtually any Linux distro could be utilized as a free and reliable server made Linux the backbone for much of the internet we know and (mostly) love today. This was great for getting big tech adoption, the more the internet has become essential to the general user experience of PCs, laptops, phones, etc. However, for the average user, Linux remained foreign to most, as they gained access to the internet through Windows, Mac, i-phone, or later Android. Either way, what's helped advance the cause for a more common use and adoption of Linux has been yet another twofold thing on Big Tech becoming more and more invasive and controlling with spyware and locking down features via one's personal account, and whether the particular Big Tech the account is under will accept you as an active user or reject you for a variety of reasons. Most common is that you can get locked out of online features of Windows 11 if you have forgotten your password, and have tried it too many times. However, one can be locked out of their account for a variety of reasons, and the wonderful ToS that everyone spends time reading thoroughly through before accepting (sarcasm, of course) effectively states that Microsoft has the right to refuse services for any reason they want to. So yeah, if you have 20 years of data history shared in the Cloud, it can be locked up, or worse, removed completely, under the sole discretion of Microsoft. With linux, while you can use comparable online storage apps, you can also use physical storage devices. Your data is as safe and secure as you choose to make it. And, if you get locked out of Ubunto, for example, you can reinstall and change the password. As long as you keep or backup most your data on said external storage devices, you don't have to worry about a company like Microsoft holding it hostage, or deleting it altogether. The other aspect is that Big Tech itself uses Linux. It's why Android and Chromebook are the way they are. Albeit, I'd rather use Ubuntu, Fedora, or Debian, at least both Android and Chromebook are very Gnome-like that it's not an unfamiliar experience. Likewise is happening with Windows, which since 8 has become more similar to the Gnome environment, which I find ironic in how much Linux has tried to feel more like Windows or Mac to lure over users of said computers. As it is, because much of the internet is run under Linux, and, in turn, the major Big Tech companies and their software has worked to adapt to the Linux environment, the crossover between the commercial PC OSes and Linux distros has become a much simpler process. You don't even have to erase Windows off your computer to run Linux, even though you may decide to do so eventually to get the most out of your PC once it's freed from the bloat and spyware within its current OS. It's an amazing time to be a Linux user. Although, there's still a question of how Linux will innovate in the future once it's become the standard. Hopefully the community remains interested in pushing the boundaries and ever improving Linux, rather than becoming another Apple, Microsoft, or Google.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Wow, that was a good read - thank you for this! I love getting this type of perspective from experienced users as it helps inform me. I'll be honest I've never invested any time into Linux of the years however it had really sparked my interest of late and I plan on digging in some more!

[@bertnijhof5413]

I did find Ubuntu 5.04 on a PC Magazine CD in 2005 and I installed it on a spare Pentium II and I was impressed. In 2008 I did buy a new laptop with Windows Vista and the I remembered Ubuntu and dual booted Ubuntu 8.04 LTS and Windows Vista. In 2009 after problems with dual booting, I moved Windows to a Virtualbox VM. In 2024 I still run Ubuntu 23.10 on my HW and Windows in Virtualbox. In 2022 I reinstalled Ubuntu 5.04 and 4.10 in Virtualbox and occasionally I boot them again. Today I still use Evolution daily, it is basically an extended email client with Calendar; Tasks; Memos and Contacts.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thank you for this!! I was wondering what Evolution was for. Is it still around today? I remember the days software was in magazines. The internet (as beneficial as it is) took some of that experience away.

[@bertnijhof5413]

@@TheRetroRecall Evolution is still around and can be installed from the distro normal repositories, e.g: sudo apt install evolution

[@ManuelSchulte007]

This is the very first Linux distro I used when Linux became my main driver OS. Before I used MS-DOS, Windows 3.1, then OS/2 3.0 and 4.0, then Windows 2000, Windows XP and Windows Vista till circa 2005 when I decided to definitely move to Linux. Actually, I first tried a Fedore Core 3 (the community edition of Red Hat Linux in the time) for some months, but I was not happy with it. A friend of mine handed to me a CD ROM with Ubuntu 5.04 on it. I gave it a try and I crushed... Since then still on Ubuntu... Now happily running Ubuntu 22.04.03 LTS (Long term support). That said, I'm considering moving to LMDE 6.0, Linux Mint Debian Edition, which is currently based on Debian 12 bookworm...

[@iplyrunescape305]

Vista didn't come out until 2006 But I see what you mean

[@ManuelSchulte007]

@@iplyrunescape305 yup right, but I kept dual booting for I still enjoy some games that don't work at all under Linux and Windows is a decent gaming console OS 😁 But again I'll probably get rid of windows definitely... The last 2 years, Windows 10 has become unbearably slow on non SSD drives. My pc that boots in seconds under Linux needs ~40 minutes to become usable under Windows 10. And the fact I'm only booting Windows every now and then is not the only explanation. I remember Windows 10 behaving rather decently on my rotational drive in the beginning. Since then it has kept degrading... Moving to 11 is not an option, my perfectly working motherboard albeit 12 years old has no compatible TPM chip... So keeping Windows for me is not an option any more...

[@TheRetroRecall]

A few people have mentioned Linux Mint as an option as well. Is it more intuitive / compatible than Ubuntu?

[@TheRetroRecall]

I believe it was January 2007 for Vista, unless of course you were a beta tester :)

[@phorsyon]

@@ManuelSchulte007For best performance on storage devices the IO-Scheduler must use different strategies when accessing data, depending on the device being HDD or SSD. HDD require a sophisticated reordering of data accesses to minimize movement of the actuator on the platter. From what I have heard Microsoft removed their HDD-IO-Scheduler from recent Windows versions, leading to abysmal performance from HDDs. As to why they did that I could only speculate.

[@Pulverrostmannen]

I began using Suse linux and kinda been sticking to that (When I use Linux) , it was pretty much the first time I went online with a computer too, Using Linux and a dial up modem. I played Super Tux and a game that looked a lot like Monkey Island that came on the 6 CD Installation. Good times

[@TheRetroRecall]

Sounds like a blast! I have similar memories but with Windows based machines and dial up :). As you said, good times indeed!

[@Pulverrostmannen]

@@TheRetroRecall it was a time when computers were very scarce for me. I had a lot of old stuff but most of it then was kind of too slow to run the task. But I pretty much use the same method today. I use more computers and dedicate them to different stuff they can handle instead

[@loz9324]

Damn when i was a teenager i had a literal (small) trashbag full of the 4.10 prerelease discs with the same sleeve art. Good times

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha no way!!!

[@red_ben3487]

just did a debian 12 install last night and its wild how the debian installer hasnt changed at all since 2004

[@TheRetroRecall]

Nice!! I'm going to be experimenting with some different distros soon.

[@christopherjackson2157]

Old linux installs are always fun 😊

[@TheRetroRecall]

My first time! I will definitely be doing others.

[@christopherjackson2157]

@@TheRetroRecall looking forward to it :)

[@tfksworldoflinux]

Ah, the good old days! I still got a copy of RedHat 8.0 from 2002 in its original box. It comes with Gnome 2.0 and KDE 3.0.3. All software is spread over 7 CDs. Maybe I should install it on my IBM Aptiva from 1998. It now runs Windows 98 SE but after seeing this, I get the feeling that it will run RedHat better than the OS it originally came with...

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha jealous, I need a copy of Redhat to try! Yes, give it a shot. It's a blast going through these old OSs

[@Pasi123]

My first time using Linux was Knoppix in 2007(?) and in 2008(?) I started using Xubuntu. That was on a Celeron 333MHz, 384MB RAM, Riva TNT

[@TheRetroRecall]

Nice! What are you using today?

[@lexisnep525]

I would love to see a video where you run a newer Linux version on old hardware. Attempting to make an old computer useful without focusing on retro gaming is an interesting topic. For example, how does that IBM Aptiva perform on, for example, Ubuntu 9.04?

[@TheRetroRecall]

It would be an interesting challenge. I will make a note!

[@craigmurray4746]

I went back and took a look at the hardware specs. It's a Pentium 3 system, can't remember how much RAM. So putting 2009 era Ubuntu on is going to result in a pretty heavy struggle I think. Software only got more and more bloated and using that 10GB IDE drive is also going to result in a true slide show. Although, something like a 2009 version of Puppy Linux or Damn Small Linux may work OK still

[@rcrotorfreak]

Damn I remember getting every release until Ubuntu stop giving cd away. Back then can request a ubuntu sticker for covering the win button of keyboard out of charge but need to also provide a self envelop with stamp.

[@TheRetroRecall]

I knew about the CD's but not the sticker lol! Do you still have any of your physical cd's anymore?

[@mybigfatpolishlife]

That's great congrats bro

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thank you for being a part of the channel!

[@brett9000]

I have one of those CDs still in a draw I didnt really use it back then and now the only time I use linux is when I am using my steam deck and it is awesome but still got a lot to learn.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha that's awesome!

[@fordonmekochgalenskaper5665]

I have used different types of Linux since 1995 and dropped Windows 2011, I use mostly Arch Linux but have a Laptop with Linux Mint

[@TheRetroRecall]

How do you find it for your day to day VS Windows? Games?

[@fordonmekochgalenskaper5665]

@@TheRetroRecall I'm not gaming. But for work I se no big difference. I mostly work with CAD, 3D animation and video editing on a semi pro lvl. Only issue I have is that Linux lack on video editing software so I use closed source there, Lightworks and DaVinci Resolve that both works great with Linux. Lightworks cost if I not want limitations.

[@blackterminal]

I have tried a newish version of Linux Mint and I would be fine using this as my main OS if MS windows goes to sone kind of weird subscription model. Also pulled a old Mac LC Pizza box computer I have out last night and my younger daughter enjoyed drawing on it. Crt monitor and all. Seeing old hardware get used again always makes me feel warm inside. Im going through my old hardware and seeing what works.

[@TheRetroRecall]

I just love this! Great job!

[@tarajoe07]

I started with the following release

[@TheRetroRecall]

Nice! I assume it was very similar.

[@tarajoe07]

@@TheRetroRecall extremely. The installer was one of the easiest to use at the time. And I was on dialup still, so package management was a dream, so I didn't have to load a bunch of web pages to get anything I needed

[@TheRetroRecall]

Nice!!! I'm looking forward to testing out others.

[@wintermute740]

I have been a Linux user since the early days with Slackware. These days, I still use Slackware when I'm setting up a server or (on hardware which is typically no longer supported), but Mint, which is Ubuntu-based, when I want something that "just works" on more modern hardware.

[@TheRetroRecall]

I've heard that Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Kubuntu all work quite well. Amongst other flavors.

[@skylarcates_robocatstory]

I used to have 8.04 Hardy Heron. It was Xubuntu though But it’s the same thing as regular Ubuntu

[@TheRetroRecall]

Nice! I plan on exploring some of the distros.

[@crash-stop]

I actually still use ubuntu 6.06 ( I use it for making glitch art due to several flaws I've found using it ) in canonicals favor they keep up repository's for older versions so its still possible to install applications I use .

[@TheRetroRecall]

That's great! I do plan on checking out the later versions for the experience.

[@kostis2849]

If you were impressed that they mailed it to your house in the US, consider I had 5 copies mailed to my work in Greece.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha, that's awesome, and for free if I recall!

[@kostis2849]

@@TheRetroRecall of course!

[@mictreful]

I still have that copy I use Xubuntu now a days

[@TheRetroRecall]

Awesome!! It's was fun to discover and has sparked an interest in Linux for me.

[@edsanchez87]

Hello RR I would recommend setting up a PC with Linux to practice. Almost any old PC would do especially if you are going to work on terminal skills. If you want to try graphical apps I would recommend at least a dual core system and 4gb ram. This PC could also be used as a library on which could look up documentation and man pages as well web pages on the Internet. This would be enough for simplicity pages but may struggle with videos. There is a lot of Linux web pages that are mostly text. I find it can be helpful to try and do tasks in the terminal then the GUI apps became easier to understand. Hope this helps and can be very educational.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thanks for taking the time to wrot ethis, it's great! Great suggestions. I'm extremely interested in exploring Linux and am looking forward to it. It's great having the support.

[@edsanchez87]

Some terminal keyboard shortcuts TAB auto complete what has been entered on the command line this works for commands, files, and directory's TAB+TAB will show possible auto complete options is contract sensitive Up arrow. scrolls through previous commands Ctrl+c exit running process Ctrl+a go to begining of line Ctrl+e go to end of line Ctrl+r search command history Ctrl+u. erase from cursor to begining of line Ctrl+k erase from cursor position to end of line Ctrl+w cut previous word on command line Ctrl+v paste previous cut text Hope this helps

[@TheRetroRecall]

This is great, very much appreciated! I printed this as well as a quick reference. It's going to be an adventure exploring a new platform.

[@manuelsuazo1125]

I think I have some of those lying around

[@manuelsuazo1125]

yeah, kubunto 8 and a opensolaris

[@TheRetroRecall]

Nice!!

[@JohnCrawford1979]

GStreamer is what is used for audio recording. Still used today, by music composers and producers, as well as for KZbinrs and live streamers that use Linux to do AV stuff.

[@TheRetroRecall]

That's great info, thank you! Cool that it is used today, as are (from what I am hearing) a few other Linux applications are still in use today. Looking forward to exploring Linux a bit more!

[@JohnCrawford1979]

@@TheRetroRecall - You're welcom, and glad Could be of help! 🙂 There's quite a few apps that have been around for at least a decade. GIMP is a common one that, along with Libre Office suite, have not only remained in general use on Linux, but favorite free and opensource alternatives to Photoshop and the commercial office suites you get on Apple or Microsoft devices. So, much like switching between Apple and Microsoft, when moving to Linux, you may find apps you're familiar with running natively on Linux, or a fairly decent alternative. For anything you may need that only Winows has, you can always try Wine or a virtual box, if not a dual boot partition.

[@stevencamp6824]

I like Ubuntu, mint, and Zorin OS

[@TheRetroRecall]

Awesome!

[@kopspijker3515]

Started with PClinuxOS in 2007 and later switched to Ubuntu 8.04 LTS in 2008 or 2009. Stayed with Ubuntu until 2016 ish when I switched to Archlinux and that install is still going strong. Even after switching the hardware underneath it. All in a dual-boot configuration with Windows. Proton is very good for video games. It is not perfect. Latest news for my new Powermac. I have created a disk image of the disk and am archiving all the software the guy put on there. and collecting installation images for reinstalling the OS as a matter of precaution. Though who the hell invented resource forks! A pain in the rear end!

[@TheRetroRecall]

That's the one thing I hear a bit about Linux is the lack of game support. As for Mac's, the only answer I have is 'Macs' haha! Good luck on your adventure, keep me updated :)

[@valentinSibiceanu-39-tete]

I.B.M.(INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS MACHINE)(IBM)FOUNDED COMPANY 1950!👍😃

[@TheRetroRecall]

Love it.

[@otakuman93]

As someone who has a few years using linux distros, Gnome is pronounced guh gnome, I'm sorry to be that guy

[@TheRetroRecall]

Hahaha be that guy, it's completely welcome!

[@claytonmclean3861]

I cut my linux teeth on that same copy of ubuntu. Today it is my daily driver, Kubuntu specifically. All my online activities are on Linux. Only use windows for games and work. As a South African I was very proud of Ubuntu since the head of Canonical at the time was Mark Shuttleworth, a fellow South African. As for pronunciation, the proper way to say it is "ooboontoo"

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thanks for this info!! I was going to ask about Kubuntu, it sounds like it works pretty well.

[@claytonmclean3861]

@@TheRetroRecall the KDE is a closer match to windows than gnome. And as someone else mentioned Lubuntu is the lightweight version for older architecture. Version 18.04 specifically because that is the last 32x version. All the latest buntu's are 64 bit now.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thanks again, it's much appreciated. I'm going to be testing out some distros.

[@williambaldwin9346]

Evolution was an Email client

[@TheRetroRecall]

Appreciate it!

[@chrisw443]

that was the last version of linux i had, and the only, switched to mac right after. Doesnt seem like a modern linux is as together as that was. Im probably wrong.

[@TheRetroRecall]

To be honest I am not 100% sure, however I have heard from many people through the comments that Modern Linux 'has lost its way'. Then again, the comments vary. I am going to explore Linux this year and get a good feel for it as it's the one O/S I have never explored :)

[@arthurmann578]

Happy New Year everybody! My wife went away to her relatives house for New Year's so I'm spending mine with my girlfriend at home! 😀 Please don't tell my wife I said that.....😲

[@TheRetroRecall]

Lol!

[@PC4USE1]

Ironically,back in the era of this version of Ubuntu/Linux,I tried it as an XP user and was befuddled. Now,I use Linux 905 percent of the time. Either I have doubled my IQ in my old age or Linux has become more become more intuitive for someone brought up on Windows. I think the latter is the most likely. I used Windows till the demise of Win 7 and did NOT much care for Win 10.

[@TheRetroRecall]

I know I called it out, but just using it felt 'right'. It has definitely peaked my interest in giving a new version a shot on one of my production machines - to see how it would be like as a daily driver.

[@EinPinguin]

Ah yeah the first video from 2024

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha! I never thought of time zones LOL! So, yes! 2023/2024 mixed video :)

[@mybigfatpolishlife]

Still a 2023 video for me in the eastern United States

[@marksmith9566]

Try to install new Ubuntu on a Win 98 era computer. If it fails drop back 5 or 10 versions and try again.And sp on. You may be surprised how newer versions will load on very old computers!

[@TheRetroRecall]

That's awesome, I'll be checking that out amongst other distros as well. It sounds like it's a pretty versatile OS.

[@plainsabertooth7828]

I wish ubuntu stood that way, now its more corporate and following Microsoft's and apple way of doing things which sucks.

[@TheRetroRecall]

I have yet to try the new versions out, however a lot of people have mentioned that. I assume other flavors are the same (IE: Kubuntu?).

[@plainsabertooth7828]

@@TheRetroRecall yeap, I used to use lubuntu up until 18.04 when they dropped 32 bit support, shame 32 bit can still get basic tasks done but there excuse is the architecture is getting to old lol ubuntu is already talking about dropping support for older 64 bit cpus so I'm not buying it.

[@TheRetroRecall]

We shall see what happens. Thanks for your help / insight!!

[@Johan-ez5wo]

I'll stick to MVS 3.8

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha! I hear that Linux users are quite loyal to their chosen distro. I mean if it works it works. I just need to get my feet wet to find out which one will work for what I do :)

[@Johan-ez5wo]

@@TheRetroRecall Actually, MVS 3.8 is an IBM mainframe OS

[@TheRetroRecall]

Never heard of it to be honest. (clearly). :)

[@kylenorris9585]

You should post an ISO for us so we can try

[@TheRetroRecall]

For sure! Have you checked archive.org? If it's not there let me know and I will upload.

[@williambaldwin9346]

I feel Ubuntu has lost its way, this message hasen't been on their page in years.

[@TheRetroRecall]

I'm looking forward to trying the latest. Possibly also Kubuntu.

[@pepiivanov4337]

windols xp came out in 2001

[@TheRetroRecall]

You are correct, Oct 2001.

[@pepiivanov4337]

@Karataus 25 October 2001 to be correct anyway windows xp is 23 years old happy new 2024

[@TheRetroRecall]

Happy new year!!!

[@pepiivanov4337]

@@TheRetroRecall thanks

[@pepiivanov4337]

@Karataus and to ask you can you make video about dell precision 650

[@Dratchev241]

ubuntu ancient African word meaning "I can't configure debian" sorry I couldn't help myself.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha, well I know nothing about either, time to learn!

[@mealot7613]

Don't you just love how functional it is? I wish microsoft would stop putting visuals over function like they did with me, vista, 8 and 11. I really don't care for the mac os look of win 11. I care for the win 10 ui which needs less clicks to reach the same as in win 11.

[@TheRetroRecall]

Agreed!! Using this version (although really old) was extremely natural. I hope that the new versions of Ubuntu are the same :)

[@phorsyon]

@@TheRetroRecallYou have used the Gnome 2 desktop. In later version Ubuntu switched to their in-house Unity desktop, still based on the old X11 display protocol. At this time Canonical was also developing their own display protocol called Mir and a new Version of Unity based on it. Meanwhile the rest of the linux world was the developing the Wayland display protocol. Today it's all settling on Wayland, Canonical shifted focus from Unity/Mir to Gnome 3 + modifications to mimic Unity (left side panel) where possible. Of course every time when some new teck pops up thing are rough around the edges and Internet Drama is guaranteed. ;)

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha good to know! I'm sure I will experience some of this on the adventure of when I start exploring Linux in general. It's awesome that I have some great resources supporting the channel to help me if needed! :)

[@fabriziot1467]

when ubuntu still meant..... I don't know how to install debian

[@TheRetroRecall]

Haha. I'm such a noob with this!

[@fabriziot1467]

​@@TheRetroRecall I am joking, it was a meme in linux community at that time ❤

[@TheRetroRecall]

@fabriziot1467 Hahaha oh I know lol!! All good :)

[@rmcdudmk212]

Cut my teeth in Linux on Ubuntu 5 and 6. Getting it to dual boot with windows xp made me feel like some kind of tech guru. 🤣

[@TheRetroRecall]

Hahah brilliant!!!

[@rmcdudmk212]

@@TheRetroRecall that's a lot of effort thou so now days I have windows machines and Linux machines. It saves on headaches

[@TheRetroRecall]

Ahha!

[@scott16546]

linux mint

[@TheRetroRecall]

I've heard some good things. I'll check that out as well!

[@scott16546]

@@TheRetroRecall ok its good for Windows people

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thanks!

[@scott16546]

@@TheRetroRecall your welcome

[@edsanchez87]

Some useful Linux commands Ctrl+alt+t. Open a terminal lscpu list CPU details lspci. list pci devices details lsusb list USB device details lsblk list block devices df list free space on mounted desks df -h same as df but human readable man command show manual page for command other commands to look at ls grep cat du dmesg ip command help. can give helpful info on command usage also command -h command -help command --help

[@TheRetroRecall]

Thank you for this!!!! Printed!

[@IkarusKommt]

Why no one used it? Because Linux is a server system for large corporations, and its desktop parts were literally taken from a thrift store, and were donated at late 80s where people used computers in a completely different way. There were no sophisticated apps for it, and all that fancy GUI stuff were just fancy technical demos. And finally, while Windows XP installation ran under 2 GB of disk space, a usable Linux installation would take more than 4, due to loads of incompatible components and badly optimized resources.

[@TheRetroRecall]

I see not a total fan of Linux. Either way, it is a neat os to review. Also, based on what I've seen it breathes new life into retro systems to bring them online to today's standards.

[@johng.]

Maybe "used to be". But, no longer true. Most any current Linux distro will come with not only a great OS, but a complete set of applications - which you are free to ignore, because there are A LOT of ways to make a document, a spreadsheet, a presentation slide deck available from a lot of sources. You want to, you can even spend money on some apps if you feel bad about taking stuff for free. I run Kubuntu 20.04.3 (Long Term Support) on my HP ENVY x360 laptop as my main personal computer, but there are a lot of really great distros available. Personally, I would not run a Linux or BSD that is no longer provided with security updates. You can find a distro for almost any hardware platform that is supported with security updates as well as app updates..

[@TheRetroRecall]

Love this.