UFO explosion fragments from Ubatuba, Brazil | Garry Nolan and Lex Fridman

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Garry Nolan is a professor at Stanford University School of Medicine. His research is in microbiology, immunology, bio-computation, and analysis of UFO artifacts, materials, and reports of UFO encounters.
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[@misticismoNATURAL]

I did one research in Biblioteca Nacional once about this incident. That region really had many episodes of UFO sights in that period. Ubatuba is so beautiful that I really understand their presence.

[@user-rl2bz3uz5z]

I doubt they view beauty the same way. There are more sightings in New Jersey than anywhere...

[@jeffreybeyer8439]

Lu😊u

My parents have an apartment in Ubatuba, Brazil, I`ve been there many times. This is one of the most interesting UFO cases in Brazil.

[@patrickmihajlovic4112]

Didnt you watched listened to the vid AT ALL !? They mentioned your Ubatuba-whatever as best known/documented HOAX...! 😂

[@rainbowinthedark453]

Have they or did they see anything unusual??

@@rainbowinthedark453 no, none of us have ever seen anything unusual.

[@Derrondbigz]

What about Varginha 1996?

[@Jump-n-smash]

Me vende tu apartamento

[@criadocerrado782]

I've spent a few Christmases there, how crazy to see this on Lex's podcast, hugs from Brazil guys

[@FRDOMFGTHR]

Having Neil degrade Tyson as our figure head of what’s scientifically acceptable is a travesty. That dude only cares about his own ego.

[@nicholasjaboor2514]

I completely agree with the first part of your statement but I believe this scenario to be the byproduct of the general American public and how he's consumed and digested, not necessarily the product of his ego. NDT, carries the torch for guys like Jacue Custo and Carl Sagan His "job" is to keep science cool and interesting for school kids

[@ImStuckInStockton]

@@nicholasjaboor2514 But that's the point. NDT makes science uncool. He is like the Fauci of science.

[@paulkern7229]

Devastating argument, dude.

[@F1fan4eva]

@@ImStuckInStockton tf is that supposed to mean?

[@dallasswoveland4466]

@@ImStuckInStockton I'd say Fauci is the NDT of infectious disease science. Both seem completely unaware of their bias and self interest while preaching popular status quo dogma as science.

[@rodrigomoura171]

As a frequent visitor of Ubatuba, going there many times growing up, I can say that some strange things go on in there; once I went to the beach at night with my pals and I say a bunch of circular colorful light coming out of the water and then all of the sudden they disappeared (also look into Varginha UFO story, Brazil's most concrete encounter)

[@ffccardoso]

my parents have a house there, and they saw these colorful lights too, but in the mountains.

[@rodrigomoura171]

@Bernard it's a city in the northern coast of São Paulo, Brazil

[@armands3863]

And we are supposed to believe you on your words ? This is how all the UFO community works . Talking about shits they cant back up .it's like religion or Santa claus. Especially when you know the stopud superstitions Brazilian believe.

[@espectadorzero468]

Im glad this guy brought that up, I always tell my friends about ufos there and they never belived me. One night I was looking at five dots of lights in the sea horizon, the dots were significantly far apart from one another but the distance seens symmetrical, I was thinking they were ships, all of a sudden the lights assembled and become one stronger dot, that went straight to the sky and disappeared. It was the craziest thing I ever saw. But the region is known for many strange cases, there is a story that once a guy went for a night swim and was suck in by the sea, he woke up in a island 50 km far away, his memory was gonne and he had no hair left in his body, even his eye lash, nothing. I start believing those stories after what I saw in the horizon, give me chills just remembering. Im planning go to Ubatuba end of the year, very beautiful place, but I always stay away from the sea at night.

[@jaymthesn5981]

Bull... Shit.

[@rsstnnr76]

I took a huge ubatuba a few minutes ago.

[@tomofield]

Good man! 🤣

[@butchreed5764]

Hahahaha I am right now

[@perpetualmotion357]

Last time I had coitus my ubatuba broke and I ended up spraying everywhere. What I mess that was.

[@timkoontz6693]

Normally, I leave one instead of taking one, but if you take another one, send it to Garry Nolan for further examination. He can test it and tell you if it's of alien origin or not.👍

[@canmattfield]

Ohhh it's a joke

[@zini85]

Great brazilian beach. Refers to the Tupi indigenous junction of Uba - canoe, Tuba- gathering Gathering of canoes

[@hudsontoo1212]

Sometimes you actually learn things in the comment section

[@sniktheadthemunki2709]

I trust someone a lot more when they tell you why it might not be anything FIRST and THEN describe the weirdness. This guy is awesome.

[@IuItim]

It’s a well used manipulation tool

[@keenfire8151]

@@IuItim Meh. If it was flipped, you'd probably say the same thing. Moot point. With that said, probably not aliens.

[@IuItim]

@@keenfire8151 I probably would

[@MichaelMcCabe-eb2bo]

I just left a big ubatuba in the toilet 🚽

[@gigamear]

People will just flip this.

[@jwlafferty]

As someone who's already afraid of flying (caused by an in-air mishap on descent) I'm very concerned that a futuristic and technologically superior species still hasn't found a way to prevent air/spacecraft crashes.

[@ldt6513]

Hahaha! Brilliant perspective!

[@Lauren-ic8gw]

Guess they can't control a planets weather etc either and unexpected or unexplainable things...

[@OhAncientOne]

Things were fine before we started using our cloaking devices. 🤬

[@Gettohasa]

I thought the effort to get the craft back where i came from is too much so when the mission is complete they just leave it here 🤷‍♂️

[@MeticulousTechTV]

Too many variables. I'd hope their ships are at least safer and more reliable than our cars 😆

[@AndrewS-pp2he]

Ubatuba is my new favorite place. What a fun thing to say.

[@SomebodysNephew]

oohbah twobruh

[@sda3082]

Beautiful beach btw

[@bigpickles]

Metubatuba!

[@nsfeliz7825]

ooohbutuuuuba yea yea

[@Eng_Simoes]

Rains a lot in there.

[@ladyellensings3666]

Really interesting interview!

[@ramzpig1]

Lex,I gotta say your now in my top daily podcast ! Tremendous shows 👏

[@rarestform5699]

*you're

[@davewhite3629]

one of them jimmy dore russell brand and the geopolitics show everyone else seems brain dead .

[@gnarf250]

@@rarestform5699 this isn’t English class. We all knew what he meant.

[@rarestform5699]

@@gnarf250 _*This_

[@gnarf250]

@@rarestform5699 It’s so cute how you think you’re more intelligent than others. How adorable.

[@pauladamson9459]

I have heard this isotope ratio argument all my life, but recently, I have come to question it. I think this premise should be rechecked.

[@pauladamson9459]

@@AngelRivera-fp9md When a stable atom is exposed to radiation, it can begin to decay. When its mass differs from that of a stable atom, we call it an isotope. Why would we assume that the ratios of isotopes would remain static, while the actual number of isotopes depends on varied environmental factors? It would be like saying, "Sure, the temperature changes, but there is always exactly the same amount of ice on the planet. If we measure a different amount of ice, we are on another planet."

[@joshpaterson344]

@@pauladamson9459 it is not like that at all

[@OSYofRR]

The premise being, the vast majority of hoaxes are people looking to profit in some way and they don't have the know how or ability to make complex alloys or isotopes. Now that does not necessarily confirm or deny which is why you have to ask around the area it was found, check the site (which if it was in the ocean or a lake good luck with that) and talk to the locals. Then analyze it and research who has the ability to make it. if it is literally nobody in South America then chances are it is legit.

[@pauladamson9459]

@@OSYofRR The premise has been that isotope ratios for materials originating on earth are known, and are different from the ratios in materials originating from somewhere else. It's a premise that has been around for a long time. I'm just suggesting that the premise should be rechecked, and revised, if necessary.

[@antonystringfellow5152]

@@pauladamson9459 It's not necessary. Physicists tend to think of things like that. Generally quite smart people who don't usually require advice from random KZbin viewers.

[@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13]

Ubatuba sounds like an ET ride sharing company

[@Mister_Merzen]

Hahaha 🤣

[@teodorosanto9781]

I so Enjoyed this Lex Fridman & guest podcast so much I had to listen to it twice.

[@muaazbudhia364]

I don't know where I would be without this podcast. Thanks for the filling the void after Joe left! Thank you for your work and keep it up!

[@Mumbamumba]

May I ask why you are not listening to Joe Rogan on Spotify? I miss the comment section.

[@thenemoshow1]

@@Mumbamumba it’s just not the same feel to it bro. Plus I feel like the guest are not as interesting overall since he moved to Spotify or Austin Texas in general. Most lived in LA

[@impulserr]

​@@Mumbamumba cuz ppl prefer yt and he was yt guy, fuck spotify and also he made too many changes, that many ppl dislike including me (like his new studio which looks like brothel).

[@averageodd]

@@impulserr lol fuck Spotify? Fuck youtube too. It's honestly shittier than Spotify on the censorship front

[@roundearthshill248]

@@Mumbamumba without comments it's not even close to the same. I've watched maybe two shows since he went to Spotify. Like I'm not about to install an app on my PC just for Joes podcast. KZbin is always open in my browser

[@drummonkey9291]

IL be honest, my renewed interest started with snakeoil merchants like Stephen Greer. Thankfully it's evolved a bit. Interesting this.

[@rickzor2700]

He's a total fraud. So glad he is now irrelevant

[@drummonkey9291]

@@rickzor2700 me too. No harm done in his case, but still ethically poor form from his racket!

[@francispitts9440]

I’m glad I’m not the only one who feels that way about him. What a complete self promoting tool and shister. He is in it for the money and attention, nothing else. I can’t even listen to him speak because everything is about him and who he knows or what he uncovered. He doesn’t do any good for the cause.

[@ryanhietanen2843]

Biggest bullshytter of all, he ruined the integrity of the UFO/UAP field.

[@FRDOMFGTHR]

The only reason you know about half of the most well documented UFO encounters such as 1986 Japanese airlines incident is because of the Greer and his disclosure projects 2001 national press club event, you don’t have to like him and may think he goes to far sometimes but there is absolutely no reason to ignore the DOZENS of legitimate government, military, and civilian whistleblowers with thousands of hours of video testimony. The entire UFO community owes Greer more than they could ever give him.

[@lowfrequency1180]

My favorite beach in São Paulo. Shocked to see it mentioned in a KZbin thumbnail. It’s not a big beach. Little fun fact: it’s got the nickname Ubachuva. “Chuva” means rain.

[@lucashenriquegarcia3037]

Brazilian here - happy to see Ubatuba mentioned.

[@MrJasonodonnell]

Listening to This really made me think again about the Novel "Roadside Picnic", A highly recommended read.

[@antonystringfellow5152]

A purely naturally formed lump of magnesium, with an unusual isotopic ratio, could have come from anywhere outside our solar system. It wouldn't even need to be very far away as stars don't all move together so not all nearby stars formed from the same supernova material and objects from interstellar space pass through our solar system quite frequently. This being the case, I would think it far more likely that this material is an interstellar meteor fragment than part of an extraterrestrial flying machine. The simplest explanations are usually the correct ones.

[@moonrooster7160]

I mean. You know there are 10s of thousands of accounts and video/photo evidence of flying objects in our skies accomplishing feats of physics we cannot explain, so why would you assume that? Have you heard of the Phoenix lights incidents? Literally hundreds of credible witnesses all saw the same football field sized craft silently move over their head.. even the governor fife Symington (spelling) witnessed it. Why would t a simple explanation be that this weird unknown material belongs to one of these weird unknown craft. I'm not saying it is, but u R saying it's likely not which is a weird assumption from my view. Culture has done a number on so many folks.

[@leoborganelli3558]

Probably a meteorite that fell from youranus .... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@PedroIaco]

Good argument. It has been said that because of its low density it absolutely was not a meteorite. It is said it has more than 99% of magnesium, as a mateorite would only reach 26%. I am no physician. An American researcher from Friedman University has stated that, and numerous Brazilian scientists. Can anyone help?

[@kenlieck7756]

*Simplest* explanation? Maybe. How about *most plausible* explanation? For instance, let's take the case of the NASA employee who had a total breakdown while we were having dinner at a nice restaurant. She became delirious with terror over the possible consequences if the wrong people were to find out that she had entered an off-limits room at Houston HQ and had discovered that "alien bodies" (her words) were being preserved there. The *simplest* explanation would be that she saw what she said she saw (this is a very level-headed and largely humorless person we're talking about here.) However, a more *plausible* one is that NASA may keep models/mockups of what they believe extraterrestrial life-forms might look like -- for any number of scientific or even interest-grabbing/promotional purposes. The Truth is she may just be "out there".

[@arztfritz3803]

@@kenlieck7756 you'd believe fake mannequins over a nervous breakdown..?

[@evanwiley2597]

Lex: creating a stone in the 1970s with the material you’d need would be a subtle troll. 🤣

[@oscarfernandoofpublicnature]

As a Materials Engineer specialized in materials characterization I'm sad reading the comments.. y'all need science

[@christopherhamilton3621]

So true!!!!

[@mattvanemden7573]

anyone who uses the utterance 'y'all' has an IQ so low its best to ignore them.

[@Gursers14]

Crazy, I’m building a house and the granite we chose for our bathroom is named Ubatuba. It looks so nice.

[@KronosProGaming]

Ooo nice, putting in glass shower panels too?

[@colinjames2469]

Obviously aliens.

[@Mk2fSaloon]

Pulls up in a taxi playing a brass instrument... "did somebody say Ubatuba?"

[@rossharley2812]

Well played 👏😂

[@thorthelionkingodinson4385]

I like the man you're interviewing very intelligent and I like the way he talks and of course I love you as always Lex you are a wonderful person. I wish I was more people like you on this planet. god and Goddess bless you my friend I send you my love and respect

[@robertsmith6120]

wow my parents live in Ubatuba and I never heard this story before!

[@bandeirante8597]

I lived in Ubatuba for a little while as a child, what a peaceful and beautiful place

[@OSYofRR]

Was Ubatuba the place where an entity was sighted after a well documented crash and people were getting sick from it? Heard that particular case from Dolan can't remember which town in Brazil it was.

[@Madferreiro]

Ubatuba é top demais mesmo

[@Pablin6114]

@@OSYofRR I think you are reffering to Varginha, another place in Brazil

[@OSYofRR]

@@Pablin6114 Yea that is it! The military was called in and all sorts of craziness happened. One of the most intrigueing stories I have heard about a sighting

[@antonystringfellow5152]

@@OSYofRR Varginha, Minas Gerais. Ubatuba is on the North coast of Sao Paulo. A very popular resort.

[@williamdrijver4141]

Ubatuba was in 1957, so spending thousands of dollars in the late fifties was quite a huge sum of money. Especially in a country like Brazil.

[@DisclosureMemes]

Lex is amazing. Garry is incredible too. Love these guys.

[@Owen741.]

.........

[@gnarf250]

@@Owen741. great analysis.

[@odoggow8157]

Only idiots love conmen!

[@ahklys1321]

Gay?

[@boco1951]

Hey thanks for picking up Alien litter!

[@jodyguilbeaux8225]

i was reading about this at about 13 years of age in the 1960s. i did not know they still had fragments of it.

[@kiloton1920]

What’s your point?

[@voltsoftruthBSbuster]

Have you eliminated the possibly that those isotopes formed during the so called explosion where the metal was super heated rapidly and possible even fused with surrounding elements. Also the type of isotopes you find in these cases do they vary from the types you would commonly use here on earth. And finally have you found any type of isotopes or even elements that are completely unknown here on earth, like some type of super dense metal that would technically be considered impossible to fabricate here on earth because it would be too unstable and rapidly decay, or on the opposite spectrum some super light metallic elements that we have yet to create, for example like transparent metals, a metallic element thats super strong yet transparent like glass, since another of UFO accounts describe metal crafts suddenly becoming transparent at least sections where one could see inside. Sorry for too many questions but always been curious about what type of materials extraterrestrials utilize. Thanks.

[@odoggow8157]

FYI there have never been any little green men bother with earth or its inhabitants and if u believe there has u r a dreamer

[@adamkeef9253]

@@odoggow8157 well aren't you narrow minded 😂

[@michaelmorrissey5631]

@@odoggow8157right, and if you think the moon is real without ever having touched it to make sure, you’re a dreamer.

[@FriendsVsWild]

Lex just add some ape talk in here and then we got some old school JRE vibes! Keep up the good work son, proud of you.

[@JayM1989]

I remember all those times Duncan was on years ago and they would always talk about shit like this! Now he's rarely ever on!

[@music0nth3run88]

@@JayM1989 French

[@XLAdvRider]

Kept waiting to hear the properties of the metal. Was it light? Strong? What made it special aside from the component isotopes?

[@tbabbittt]

Those things never break up above me. Imagine a fragment on your mantle in a nice glass box with the plaque saying "Found in Nowhere Arizona"

[@lawrencecarlson2425]

When artifacts like this turn up, there needs to be more done than just a chemical analysis. A good lab needs to make a thorough examination. A mass spectrophotometric analysis is just the start. The elemental ratios need to be compared to industry product specs, and a metallurgical structural exam for clues about manufacture methods. Much more to learn.

[@glacyitefreez4929]

I was thinking they should also put the samples under an electron microscope and actually look at it closer, maybe there's also some evidence of nanotechnology that isn't obvious just looking at it or just using mass spec.

[@craigmackay4909]

I’m keen to know the metallurgy of the craft .

[@bertvsrob]

governments can't handle hunter biden's laptop, so that is a tall order

[@mj-7444]

I made alien contact

[@lawrencecarlson2425]

@@mj-7444 They like chocolate pudding.

[@pierrevillemaire-brooks4247]

I am much more intrigued by the scarcity and unstable nature of Technetium , which is element 43 on our periodic table of elements , because this hints towards a bigger picture about the nature of the universe in which we live. There was also some noise made about an island of stability around element 115 which could lead to some breakthroughs if we rather focus on technological progress.

[@mauricegold9377]

Element 115 is Moscovium. It is unstable with probable half-life of 100 milliseconds or so. So it won't be much good for anything after a few minutes. We've only made a few atoms of this stuff. So the so-called 'island of stability' is not here. i figure that bob Lazar reckoned he would sound intelligent if he wrote 'element 115' in his scribblings a while back. He is a charlatan, so no surprises here.

[@krisharkleroad8]

@@mauricegold9377 isotopes of Moscovium may be stable. He may have lied about his education, but he has passed multiple lie detector tests, as well as analysis of his microexpressions and body language.

[@mauricegold9377]

@@krisharkleroad8 There is no reason to believe any 'isotopes' of any elements around these numbers. Not from other elements produced, and not from theory. that 'island of stability' is still not demonstrated in theory never mind practice. And why element 115, as opposed to anything else? It's just a made-up bodge-job, made when no-one had gotten close to producing many trans-uranic elements.

[@kenlieck7756]

@@krisharkleroad8 I would love to find out that Bob was above board, but the board of body language experts on The Behavior Panel channel were far from up-in-the-air in their analysis of the rock & roll Lazar show, I'm afraid. And as far as the polygraph goes, just remember that it was invented by the same man who gave the world Wonder Woman's magic truth-extracting lasso!

[@King_Flippy_Nips]

@@mauricegold9377 BS, there are different varieties of elements, you can have an element that is stable in one form and unstable in another an element can be created with differing numbers of either protons or electrons, i forget which, and that results in different properties of the element, like monoatomic gold which results in a white powder but it is still gold, and uranium comes in 235-238 i believe its the number of electrons but each has different properties.

[@kevinscholer256]

Might not be relevant but high magnesium alloys are used in high level motorsports for wheels, they can crack as they basically degrade in air at their temps.

[@Lewythefly]

We use explosively hardened manganese steel for crossing components in a railway turnout. There are lots of things like this that could explain the material. And why so small?

[@aaroncamss1623]

i need more of these alien videos, please lex, they're so interesting. thanks for everything you do for us brother.

[@drewzuz765]

I saw Lex on Joe Rogans podcast awhile go. I learned that he had a podcast of his own. I’m hooked!

[@sumkidincali]

Locals call it ubashuva because it rains so much there. Chuva is rain in Portueguese. Awesome waves there it’s a great place to visit.

[@sergioraffaelli6083]

One question, in Portuguese (from Brasil) sample is “amostra”, not “muestra”, as shown on the fragments. What’s the deal?

[@asimondini]

The samples were obtained in Argentina where they are exhibited in the UFO Museum of Victoria, Entre Rios.

[@Cliff_P]

The best one for me which I hardly ever hear about is the Height 611 UFO incident. The gold /quartz Filaments are most interesting

[@Cliff_P]

Samples also had promethium elements. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fauVaWOcq7iXmtk

[@perro626]

@@Cliff_P Thank you for sharing this.

[@crazyjay6331]

very very cool, thx

[@Mr-E.]

Cliff, have you heard of Salvatore Pais? He is a US military scientist that has fascinating patents that the military confirmed when the patent office doubted the claims. One involves creating an interdimensional rift or bubble around a spacecraft so that it is not affected by gravity, friction, water, etc. The other patent is for a room temperature superconductor to power the craft.

[@AM2PMReviews]

I wonder if Dua Lipa has visited Ubatuba. Or what if ʻOumuamua landed in Ubatuba?

[@marloncarrero6575]

There’s another place in Brazil called Itaquaquecetuba. Our brazilian native people must have been high when they named some places over here 😆

[@samdeluca1334]

I actually visited Ubatuba in 2017 whilst travelling Brazil! Has a lot of amazing beaches! I wonder if I visited this specific one 🤔!

[@visitante-pc5zc]

Who asked you?

[@friendlyone2706]

Maybe aliens love beaches so much one risked going AWOL to visit -- and was executed for not obeying orders?

[@jdmbeats]

I spent some time in Brazil during my time playing Max Payne 3. It's a crazy place.

[@dewaldabrie]

Thanks, Lex, for these videos! It would be interesting to me if you interviewed Gary Bates, author of Alien Intrusion. He has an interesting perspective on aliens as extra-dimensional beings vs extra-terrestrial.

[@bobbobbinson1841]

your time would be better spent reading a science fiction book. You will get better researched stories. you will get a good plot. and good coverup. and a good ending. take my advice and give this alien shit up man and all the other stuff you believe. you know what I mean.....

[@BooksofHighStrangeness]

@@bobbobbinson1841 How about The Bible? Before you scoff, know these 3 things: 1. The "Fine Tuning Problem" regarding just how PERFECT Earth is for life. The only life ever documented via the scientific method in our ability to oberve= here. 2. Dead Sea Scrolls found in 1947 contain accurately preserved scrolls of various messianic passages CLEARLY about what took place in Jesus' life/murder/resurrection. 3. People may die for a lie they DO NOT KNOW is a lie, one in which immense personal interest/sense of duty exists. NO HUMAN will EVER die for a lie THEY KNOW isn't true. To save one's life, instinct would be to recant. However, of the 11 apostles (minus Judas) who started the current gospel's spread AND Paul (anti-Christian Jew who Jesus intervened with= be an apostle to nonJews, as Paul grew up a faithful Jew living in Gentile wirld). Thus, of these 12 initial apostles PLUS 1 other replacement selected to fill Judas' role..13 total... All BUT 1 died MANY YEARS in most cases, after 32AD, AND DIED B/C THEY WERE SURE WHAT THEY HAD SEEN. NEVER FOR 1 SECOND DID THEY OPERATE BASED ON BELIEF ALONE. THESE MEN SAW. THE SON OF GOD!

[@FUNKOfilms]

​@@bobbobbinson1841 "Ignore your lying eyes" Is that what you meant?

[@randomsitisee7113]

What are ghosts Bob?

[@ryandevries8931]

Major B.S.

[@W47689]

*hits joint* "dude we ARE the aliens... wicked."

[@imstevemcqueen]

What were the isotopes of the thing already?! HOW MUCH DIFFERENCE?

[@pawpawtina]

3:30 more likely than not, it was a smelter or black smith testing different metal composite mixes. or even as simple as he thought he had metal A but it was metal B (magnesium) this is how we learned everything... through trial and error.

[@juliafox7904]

I love your podcasts especially ones involving space- thanks Lex and your guests. But which UFOs are ours ( secret military industrial tech) and which are extraterrestrial? How will we ever know?

[@geosal61]

They are all ours Garenteed!!!

[@craigmackay4909]

Alien reproduction vehicle

[@doctorwhom420]

You will know when they communicate with you. They are definitely not all ours.

[@juliafox7904]

@@doctorwhom420 I agree- and being evolved way beyond us I think they would be compassionate and care for all Life. Sadly our species needs to learn this large scale or we won’t make it.

[@odoggow8157]

Humans will never meet et. Even if there was a race of aliens capable of space travel the universe and time are too vast for them to travel to earth in the short time it will home humans.. plus we are morons and they would either wipe us out for our waring nature or just ignore us as we would be to them like amoebas

[@lawrencecarlson2425]

Dr Nolan patiently spends valuable time explaining in lay terms what the high school science student knows.

[@michaeljoseph8554]

No, the next question after saying it is engineered is how do we know it is engineered, not why is it engineered; we then ask what is an alternative explanation to it being engineered. Characterize the material with multiple resolutions using the variety of electron or xray miscroscopes that we have.

[@emo-sup-sock]

One thing's weird about the sample photos. It's written "muestra" (Spanish, not spoken in Brazil) instead of "amostra" (Portuguese, actually spoken in Brazil).

[@augustomoriames1492]

Cuz proofs come through Argentina.

[@noisepuppet]

So far, all the excerpts of the Garry Nolan interview I've seen have been like this. It seems that there's an interesting question before him, and he responds for five or ten minutes, mostly with very careful and measured general statements, some of which are obvious. Then he says IDK, it's interesting, and then some truisms about the general nature of evidence and what he wishes we were examining instead of the thing that prompted the question. I haven't been through the whole thing yet because so far, he's not saying anything particularly interesting. Seems like a lot of padding.

[@CStoph1979]

Interesting is a nonword.

[@noisepuppet]

@@CStoph1979 that's an interesting point 🤔

[@phuklyyve8941]

In other words "so i didnt bother watching it all, i watched maybe 9 mins and have thus summed up his entire character..."

[@noisepuppet]

@@phuklyyve8941 I didn't say anything remotely related to his character. Anyway it's six months later, and I've listened to more from him, like his interview on the new Merged podcast just the other day. He's careful and circumspect about everything he says, and he's focused on making points about the process of inquiry, which is excellent. I just wish he'd open with some of his takeaways, which are valuable. Like what he says about the isotopic ratios in some material samples that have been analyzed, and what we might infer from that. Anyway, the fact that I'm impatient to hear some things he says and not others isn't an attack on his character, or important at all really.

[@Padoinky]

This guest may be way out there, but his academic credentials are top notch

[@SkullyTheHypnoSkull]

Metamaterial is the word for weird metals that I keep finding. Gold is used to make alot of metamaterials.

[@terrodar19]

All they have to do is a fancy X-ray diffraction analysis….. gives you all elemental composition and its crystal configuration.

[@patrickkelley6276]

1970's? Not quite, discovered on the Brazil beach in 1957! Facts man, state the facts

[@mattsarnecky2552]

I found it strange that this guy has supposedly studied this in a scientific manner but doesn't even know the date it was found?? He says it might have been the 70s he forgot.

[@t4lco]

I never expected someone mentioning Ubatuba, especially on Lex's podcast lmao. Been there last month, beautiful place, almost every year I spent weeks there on vacation. HAHAHAHA Also, that UFO case is relatively unknown to most Brazilians, it's nice to have it shared :)

[@alskdjfhg6734]

It's a beautiful beach city, isn't it? There's a place in Minas Gerais called Varginha that is famous for UFOs. A lot of Brazilians from Minas and São Paulo are familiar with it.

[@t4lco]

@@alskdjfhg6734 sure it is, I can say that is one of the better coastal cities in Brazil to visit (proximity to SP/RJ and infrastructure counts a lot). oh yeah, there's a lot of UFO/ET enthusiasts and sighting locations in Minas Gerais, specially around Varginha, São Thomé das Letras and Brazópolis (I have a hippie auntie that moved to Brazópolis to get in touch with ET's btw hahahaha). But I think the focus now is around the Chapada dos Veadeiros in Goiás, a whole lot of people goes there seeking UFO's and ET's.

[@Madferreiro]

Ubatuba is so peaceful, I cant imagine the caiçara people having to handle ufos.

[@alskdjfhg6734]

It's so refreshing to hear from people who are actually familiar with these places.

[@RevanLaughs]

So if someone brings NDT a chunk of stable element 115, would that interest him? 🤔

[@cognomenunknown2144]

I saw a ghost on the Antietam battlefield as a kid. I was on the bus to school and when we got to the top of the hill where the national cemetery is I saw what looked like a reenactor in a Yankee uniform looking down at one of the graves. He was way off in the distance but could clearly be seen. I momentarily looked away, a fraction of a second I looked back and his arms were outstretched and he quickly levitated and disappeared. No one else seemed to see it except for one other kid who looked at me in a puzzling fashion when he realized I’d been looking at it too. We were both 8 years old. Neither he nor I had ever spoken about it. I saw the same kid thirty years later at a bar. When I casually brought it up in small talk he quickly said “I don’t want to talk about it.” and walked away. It is something I’ve thought of every, single day of my life since.

[@bienias51]

He didn't say what ratio he found. I wonder why. Excessive quantities of stable 26 Mg have been observed in the Ca-Al-rich inclusions of some carbonaceous chondrite meteorites.

[@Raidz-448]

Lex, interview Richard Dolan, bring on someone with a huge amount of historical knowledge on the topic of UFO's with a lot of credibility, you'll learn so much.

[@MarsLonsen]

like who?

[@Raidz-448]

@@MarsLonsen Like the person mentioned in my comment

[@MarsLonsen]

@@Raidz-448 lol my bad. Idk how I missed that😅

[@gorbachevdhali4952]

I'm not so sure Dolan has a lot of credibility.

[@jochennel]

yes cos this dude is for sure an alien himself

[@coupsdestylo]

A bit of magnox from testing booms would have screwy isotope ratios.

[@jesuscarrion1381]

Excellent interview!!! Didn't know about this ubatuba case.

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

Walk up to David Fravor's F/A 18. Scrape some paint off his name under the cockpit. Now, take that material and "reverse engineer" the entire plane. Ok? OKAY? Enough of these tiny bits of UAP with the attendant silliness of "isotopic ratios." Show me a damn machine.

[@nipps223]

"I smell shite!" 😂🤣😂🤣👍 poor Lex

[@0_Danilo]

LoL, my go to Vacation place mentioned on Lex Podcast, feels kinda weird 😆

[@user-wk6ue2qc9y]

Thought on the holgraphic and the regular med bed technology

[@irony9234]

MIT just released a study maybe 2 weeks ago of fusing a few metals together, called it Kagome metal. The reason is the metal fusion allows electrons and waves to travel differently through the metal, and it has a different heat capacity, allowing it to not melt, get hot or break under most circumstances. You still have me blocked on Twitter Lex. 💔

[@visitante-pc5zc]

Come to mine and be a professional flat earth researcher

[@jameseckert169]

Its lighter than plastic and stronger than steel

[@irony9234]

@@jameseckert169 it could be a metal fusion under certain conditions and then flattened. I mean as you can see today they have a method of making minor scratches across metals and it gives it the ability to move and bend under let’s say heat conditions, by the way it’s cut. We’re only at the beginning of figuring things out.

[@jameseckert169]

@@irony9234 Im talking about the Metal from MIT

[@irony9234]

@@jameseckert169 oh yeah I didn’t know the weight of what they created. Fantastic news.

[@JCO2002]

Meteors deliver elements to Earth with different isotopes. Was that even considered, or was the focus just on finding alien tech?

[@xxdaggerxx5]

hes a medical doctor, i mean ....

[@JCO2002]

@@xxdaggerxx5 Yes, which makes him an expert on materials analysis ;-)

[@christopherhamilton3621]

@@JCO2002 Exactly!!! And he has the gall to call a result ‘wrong’ rather than anomalous. That’s a ‘begging the question’ fallacy if ever I’ve seen/heard one.

[@Kahweekah2o2f]

You had me at Ubatuba

[@369jones6]

Really good point the control system is part of the overall context of what another off earth species may use to subtly drop hints as to their existence? Also the point about the presence of different isotope ratios being extremely interesting but possibly not being where the real game is at, is important IMO, as - if we are to go by for example the gimble video - we're talking about tech at least a couple of hundred years advanced. Tech that seems to play with not only gravity waves but also time. Hence we're talking about an intelligence that is probably beyond our everyday comprehension.

[@markymark7803]

He's like the Ryan Hall of the science world.

[@jochennel]

he is an 100pct alien

[@thelmaviaduct]

Rugby league winger???

[@HipHopHussle]

Around 2000 my 8th grade science teacher who once played MLB in the 80s brought a small piece of metal with hand tools & $50 to who can break, crack, make a crease, or anything! Even the Tech EDs teachers machine could not make a scratch. Said to have over 200 materials not known to man & it was his brother who worked at 51 that possessed it. #witness #facts 💯

[@user-ds4gp8dr2q]

so it is known to man, just not all...

[@HipHopHussle]

@@user-ds4gp8dr2q I’d say, as we can’t replicate their technology as of yet (if we have material) because we don’t have the same technologies. so that being said we (man) don’t know what was in that piece of metal, yet.

[@30AndHatingIt]

Where is this guy now and where is this piece of metal? I’d like to take a crack at it.

[@HipHopHussle]

@@30AndHatingIt 😆I haven’t been able to find him even now, in the social media day🤔

[@ldt6513]

How did someone identify 200 non-identified materials that are still not identified?

[@jdmaine51084]

Ubatuba, Brazil?! That's right next to Obomabo... Just south of Saxamaphone.

[@eddieandrews3335]

Ubatuba is fantastic as a kitchen bench. At night when a couple of low watt lights shine from the ceiling the granite looks very spacey as if you could dip your hands in it. It make black galaxy granite look boring

[@Dodgevair]

"I would do it [study UFOs], but before agreeing to do it, we must insist upon full access to discs recovered. For instance in the L.A. case, the Army grabbed it and would not let us have it for cursory examination." J. Edgar Hoover-Director of FBI The security guard called and said, “Sir, there’s a glowing red object hovering right outside the front gate. I’ve got all the men out here with their weapons drawn.” We lost between 16-18 ICBMs (nuclear tipped Inter Continental Ballistic Missiles) at the same time UFOs were in the area… (A high ranking Air Force officer) said, “Stop the investigation; do no more on this and do not write a final report. I heard that many of the guards that reported the incident were sent off to Vietnam." Captain Robert Salas, USAF, during a videotaped interview for the Disclosure program. "A few insiders know the truth...and are studying the bodies that have been discovered." -Dr. Edwin Mitchell Apollo 14..the 6th NASA employee to walk on the Moon. "Maximum security exists concerning the subject of UFOs.” CIA Director, Allen Dulles, 1955. "It's still #classified above Top Secret." - Senator Barry Goldwater, 1975 “Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960. “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false” -William Casey, CIA director, 1981 “Yes, there have been ET visitations. There have been crashed craft. There have been material and bodies recovered. There has been a certain amount of reverse engineering that has allowed some of these craft, or some components, to be duplicated. And there is some group of people that may or may not be associated with government at this point that have this knowledge. They have been attempting to conceal this knowledge. People in high level government have very little, if any, valid information about this. It has been the subject of disinformation in order to deflect attention and create confusion so the truth doesn’t come out. ” ― Edgar D. Mitchell, The Way of the Explorer: An Apollo Astronaut's Journey Through the Material and Mystical World AFFIDAVIT (1) My name is Thomas Jefferson Dubose (2) My address is: XXXXXXXXXX (3) I retired from the U.S. Air force in 1959 with the rank of Brigadier General. (4) In July 1947, I was stationed at Fort Worth Army Air Field [later Carswell Air Force Base] in Fort Worth, Texas. I served as Chief of Staff to Major General Roger Ramey, Commander, Eighth Air Force. I had the rank of Colonel. (5) In early July, I received a phone call from Maj. Gen. Clements McMullen, Deputy Commander, Strategic Air Command. He asked what we knew about the object which had been recovered outside Roswell, New Mexico, as reported in the press. I called Col. William Blanchard, Commander of the Roswell Army Air Field, and directed him to send the material in a sealed container to me at Fort Worth. I so informed Maj. Gen. McMullen. (6) After the plane from Roswell arrived with the material, I asked the Base Commander, Col. Al Clark, to take possession of the material and to personally transport it in a B-26 to Maj. Gen. McMullen in Washington, D.C. I notified Maj. Gen. McMullen, and he told me he would send the material by personal courier on his plane to Benjamin Chidlaw, Commanding General of the Air Material Command at Wright Field [later Wright Patterson AFB]. The entire operation was conducted under the strictest secrecy. (7) The material shown in the photographs taken in Maj. Gen. Ramey’s office was a weather balloon. The weather balloon explanation for the material was a cover story to divert the attention of the press. (8) I have not been paid or given anything of value to make this statement, which is the truth to the best of my recollection. Signed: T. J. Dubose Date: 9/16/91 Signature witnessed by: Linda R. Split Notary Public, State of Florida "There exists a shadowy government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself.“ - Daniel Inouye Senate Select Committee on Secret Military Assistance to Iran and the Nicaraguan Opposition (Iran-Contra hearings) (1987) Genesis 19:24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven; MEANINGFUL congressional hearings, ala the Watergate hearings, including aerospace/defense contractors and Vice Admiral Thomas R. Wilson must be held to address a vital issue that transcends politics and we will never properly advance until it happens: The 75+yr ongoing-constitutionally illegal, EXTRATERRESTRIAL cover-up. How can we truly believe anything our elected officials say? The dog n pony shows must cease.

[@phuklyyve8941]

why oh why did you have to shove fucking genesis into this

[@Dodgevair]

@@phuklyyve8941 Reality?

[@DenyMeDenyYourself]

Everything is united through water

[@mudiusp6050]

Beautiful minds Beautiful stuff.

[@Boston617]

Hello Earthlings, We are here for the weed!!

[@tonysales3687]

there is all sorts of stuff up there being pulled around by gravity, some containing metals, some coming in from other solar systems, obviously. but i would class this as an identified falling object as it contains materials we know about.

[@Ryan-xh7pe]

I wonder if he believes in heavy materials being more prominent in different type of Star systems (different suns), which would explain element 115 not being present on Earth

[@gauraprema1932]

No lie,I live in Ubatuba, near Pereque beach. There's a place about 3hr drive from here where people say there's constant UFO traffic. If they're looking in Ubatuba they're looking in the wrong place

[@gocanada9749]

near RIO / SP

[@rootkite]

Fungi and squid along with many micro-organisms have been theorized to be of extraterrestrial and even engineered origins. McKenna's entheogenic/ethnobotanical/panspermic viewpoints on this are intriguing to me. As he says, perhaps it isn't about contacting or discovering aliens somewhere light years away, but about recognizing them among or within our very biosphere.

[@rootkite]

@@Reiman33 I hear what you're saying. Semantic distinctions are important to make, and here we are talking about origins as well as contemporary biological descriptors. But at the same time I think there is an underlying conceptual confusion going on, a so-called "alienation". We so often hang ourselves on the branches of language unnecessarily. I think humans tend to see all other life except ourselves as intrinsically "other" in much of the developed world, and that is of much greater concern to me than arguing terminology (linguist though I am). I believe it is only once we see and respect the entire connected system of biomes on (and outside of) our planet as a multidimensional and symbiotic web of life that we can get over our gnawing cultural hangups.

[@lucasbachmann]

There's nothing anomalous about the genetic sequence of anything known to science. Thinking squids could be aliens or humans are from Battlestar Galactica's lost colony neglects that an alien squid - even if it were using DNA+RNA+proteins life Earth life does - it still wouldn't be using the same tool kit of genes that is mostly the same between all living things.

[@mj-7444]

I made alien contact

[@kiloton1920]

Not squid, octopus. This is because the egg can survive in space. Same with the spores of mushrooms. Not to mention octopus die after only a year and people think of they lived longer they would have taken over the world and may have been genetically engineered to only live a year due to this fact.

[@mckaymckay5168]

@@kiloton1920 but don’t octopus have DNA and rna? Things that are seen in all lifeforms across the planet ?

[@Matheusreisl]

I'm from Brazil and once i saw a UFO in Caraguatatuba a city really close to Ubatuba. First i was thinking that was a drone flying close to the beach and them that thing just flew very far away and disapear..

[@johannesschmitz6370]

prolly was my dad

[@factanonverba7547]

I visited Brazil in late 90s . I was robbed and almost got kidnapped or killed. I jumped off a balcony and ran past another guy struggling with a different group of banditos. I will never go back. It was just like hostel. And there a fvcking load of desperate people down there thanks to all manner of greed, selfishness, dementia, fanaticism, superstition and did I mention greed?

[@Matheusreisl]

@@factanonverba7547 thats why the Aliens don't land here, just fly over 🤣🤣.

[@factanonverba7547]

@@Matheusreisl They do their lab tests here, that's something.

[@bryna7]

@@factanonverba7547 bs

[@daveprice8179]

I think my big brother played the ubatuba in the school band,

[@keenfire8151]

With how smart ants are, imagine if there's an insect style type of alien that is big enough and smart enough to leave their planet and visit another.

[@Jackripster69]

If this dude boarded a UFO, went on a flight, chatting to aliens he'd say maybe aliens exist. Theres a chance of magic in my mushroom sauce at lunch.

[@maxtaylor1026]

You have to look at the alignment at an atomic level. Their materials are essentially 3D printed and the computation for their machines is done by the materials. Imagine a bulkhead that can think or something that looks to us like a rock inside and out, but is actually a super computer. Their machines are basically alive, and have a sense of self preservation so long as its not at the cost of the occupants or operators.

[@asynchronicity]

@Yo Dad Lulz!

[@kenlieck7756]

Maybe tailor that to indicate that, max, any interstellar travelers' "machines" would *likely* be so advanced as to appear inscrutable to us.

[@asynchronicity]

@@kenlieck7756 And probably not crash like an old helicopter.

[@p1pepper]

... and this is what "they" told you ( or was it in an email ) . Wow .

[@lutze5086]

What a cool idea

[@curtcoeurdelion]

Fun Fact: the Umpa Lumpas are from Ubatuba.

[@robertross9567]

I don’t know if they were engineered… but WHY were they engineered?

[@seanmcgrath7700]

Could it not have been a small astroid the fisher man saw pieces of debry land.

[@SuspiciouslyGady]

Highly unlikely that a small asteroid is comprised of almost pure magnesium, but I find it a more likely explanation of the difference in isotopic ratios

[@WesleyStJohn-eu4di]

A discussion on Sasquatch would be awesome Rex! Professor Jeff Meldrum out of Idaho deals with the data just like this guest, and the implications are fascinating! Please consider! Love your show brotha!

[@fespa]

I've found many strange things in the beaches of Ubatuba, but mainly strange people. 😃

[@BROICEMAN]

love consciousness

[@jacobreeves3110]

If a species has found a way to master gravity, there is no way in hell their ship could crash. And if it did, you would find the whole ship. Not just a fragment.

[@nmarbletoe8210]

Sure, using an alien tech level of infinity

[@kiloton1920]

They would if they were shot down

[@SK-pj8mg]

i mean there are lot more variables in my opinion for example imagine people from medieval times watch us they could say the same thing about our airplane or fighter jets " if a species has found a way to fly in air then they will not crash and if they do we will find the whole jet not bits of it"

[@Logan-wb3yn]

You definitely would’ve had a spot on the titanic if you were alive back then. “The unsinkable ship” sunk pretty easily.

[@jacobreeves3110]

@@Logan-wb3yn but guess what, the titanic is still in one piece (for the most part) Not just some small fragment, you see where I’m coming from.