Fighter pilot recalls UFO sighting | Ryan Graves and Lex Fridman

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Lt. Ryan Graves is a former Navy fighter pilot, who has worked on advanced research and development programs for DARPA, Office of Naval Research, and Air Force Research Labs on topics of multi-agent collaborative autonomy, AI-assisted air-to-air combat, and manned-unmanned teaming technologies. Ryan and people in his squadron detected and engaged with UFOs on multiple occasions, and he has been one of the few people willing to speak publicly about these experiences.
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[@trojoe]

I was attached to VP-16 for a number of years as a photographer. My job was to photograph vessels suspected of drug trafficking through the gulf of Mexico and the south Atlantic. In 2000, we went up on a mission like we had a hundred times before. I got my shots. On the way back to base, our LT shouted over the headset "WTH is that!?" and off the side of our aircraft, at about 700ft, was a white cylinder object matching our course and speed. But only for a moment and then it flew off in the opposite direction at incredible speed. No idea what it could have been. But I'll never forget the look on my LTs face when we disembarked; shock, fear, and confusion. He'd seen it on radar and with his eyes for longer than any of us onboard. Hard to accept it was a drone in the year 2000.

[@03chrisv]

Could have been a drone, just not a human made drone. 🤷‍♂️

[@lewisdoherty7621]

Did this occur in an area designated by the FAA and DoD for Navy training and testing? If so, it was likely a plasma hologram decoy the Navy was testing.

[@ether23-23]

Interesting, did you do any work with the coast guard?

[@willvr4]

@@PlantsNTanks It doesn't exist.

[@ReeTM]

I believe they could be projections from satellite arrays in orbit. A light projection as it were, could travel insane speeds and not suffer the effects of acceleration.

[@nugzila4170]

This is the best explanation from an encounter by a pilot this far for me. He’s great at explaining everything.

[@ClickClack_Bam]

Well then have at it on a KZbin channel named: Corridor Crew A group of "special effects experts" who go over every video claimed to be real UFO footage & then they detail how they feel it was exactly done up as a fake òr how they'd at least do it using available special effects softwares... They SHRED all these videos by these guys that have garnered attention for being authentic or the most authentic accounts of UFO contact. Personally their outright dismissal from immediately right off the bat irks me, but they've got their band of believers in what they're saying... So mosy on over there & look around & let me know what you still think: Have they changed your mind? Do they irk you as they do me?

[@the.shotgun.approach]

I beg to differ. It sounds like he's walking a careful political tightrope. I like it, but he's far from the most articulate person recounting a UFO sighting.

[@the.shotgun.approach]

@@killbotone6210 what was debunked?

[@Ambersdf]

@@killbotone6210 💯

[@stclair2012]

@@killbotone6210 for anyone wondering, Corridor Crew’s ‘debunk’ video takes a look at the Pentagon UFO videos, from the perspective of a VFX artist aka they are camera/video special effects artists. They give an interesting perspective maybe worthy of checking out, but they took zero effort in researching the pentagon UFO videos. Their perspective is unbiased and raw, but they clearly didn’t do any hardcore analysis or research of the videos, or the stories from the pilots who filmed the videos. Just go watch their video if you are in doubt but corridor crew is just a fun look and cheesy laugh at the low video quality of Pentagon UFO videos. Calling it a legitimate debunk video is laughable at best.

[@nicolacesca]

Crazy how this might be the biggest story of humanity and still nobody talks about it

[@razorcrest2405]

People are too focused on the trivial, so sad.

[@cc59]

crazy this might be the biggest story of humanity and all we have are these shitty images

[@themadchatter4365]

Mass hypnosis and mass manipulation is strong in the world today.. Project Blue Beam

[@nicolacesca]

@@cc59 Low observability is one of the 5 key observables of this phenomena

[@missstudent4616]

Someone said, on another Video, that this UAP sighting was solved, the explanation was something like camera glaze, i dont know exactly.

[@bryantc1701]

This is the kind of content I enjoy and look forward to

[@ivermectin3191]

“No disrespect to computers” …. Lex is scared for any retribution during the take over…. 😁

[@PerformanceWithPage]

Heard that too!

[@johnman559]

Aye Gat it 😄👍.....

[@TheWhiteWolf2077]

We’re already in their simulation. The Matrix is real 👁

[@ivermectin3191]

@@TheWhiteWolf2077 agreed

[@Dochartach]

Lex knows something we don't 😅

[@_MikeJon_]

This was such a good interview. I can't wait for more information and people to come out!

[@Erizariff]

Absolutely fantastic interview. Strong questions for an equally capable interviewee.

[@marcdolce9512]

This is what we needed

[@gjgoyena]

As a guy who grew up during the Cold War, sure is funny to watch an interview between a US Air Force pilot describing nuances of his radar system to a Russian/Ukrainian PhD in front of everyone.

[@shaokhan4421]

Times change

[@andrewcanady6644]

It is a funny scenario considering the past. For everyone’s info, I believe this man was a naval aviator, however. I may be wrong. Only had to point it out because I worked on naval aircraft for 10 years. Huzza. Go Navy.

[@zergtoss1]

It is the Navy.

[@mbuckholz]

Why?.....

[@MorrowProduction]

A beautiful window/peak into your perspective. The world changes faster than we can elaborate on it.

[@dustmusicyoutubechannel4351]

Wow. Great conversation. Love the podcast Lex. 🙌🏻

[@J4ME5_]

Lex taking this subject seriously and delving as deep as possible is incredibly refreshing and important. Protect this man at all costs,

[@peezieforestem5078]

Didn't he just go into a warzone in Ukraine?

[@J4ME5_]

@@peezieforestem5078 he did

[@peezieforestem5078]

@@J4ME5_ We're not protecting this man at all costs, are we?

[@J4ME5_]

@@peezieforestem5078 well, its a figure of speech my man, designed to illustrate how much I care about him. You seem fun, a true blast at parties. Maybe you're just hungry. Are you OK?

[@peezieforestem5078]

@@J4ME5_ Haha, you're the one who takes things too literally. I, likewise, used a figure of speech designed to illustrate that I worry about him doing reckless things in Ukraine, and that perhaps we as a community could've done something.

[@metaspherz]

This is becoming my go-to channel to experience the WOW! factor! The interviewees share their expertise rather than BS! I appreciate the candor!

[@alectronicmail]

Yes! Thanks Lex and Ryan. This is great 👍👌

[@timothyodaniell9119]

This was a great interview

[@mornincorp.2116]

I have watched this clip multiple times. Very informative and ominous.

[@dereka415]

Such a great interview as always.

[@donovanmichael3756]

Absolutely amazing interview. Graves is a very smart guy

[@johnjaw19]

Great podcast. Thank you Lex. Amazing quality content. Keep up this excellent work.

[@tomking7080]

So cool that you got Ryan on your podcast. He is a solid witness.

[@misaelchavarin5931]

Great interview!

[@WeeklyDoseofUFOs]

Fantastic content Lex. Thank you.

[@lancermaza6726]

Keep em coming Lex. Good stuff

[@Scrobner]

Awesome podcast. Keep up the good work Lex!

[@Will-SSDD]

I appeaciate his logical break down and ideas great clip

[@sirfin44]

I was working at a VA hospital and the veteran Patient I was working with says something like "Did you see news released by the Pentagon about the UFOs. I was in charge of an entire ship's real deal sophisticated radar and we saw those things, UFOs, all the time but I wasn't allowed to talk about it but I'm glad they released the story so know I'm allowed." He said there was no way it was just errors in the equipment. He apologized for talking about UFOs as if he considered it silly so i told him Sir there's nothing else I'd like to hear more...i find the phenomena very interesting so much that I'll never forget this conversation. Thank you so much for sharing!

[@dogman4100]

I thoroughly enjoy watching two intelligent individuals having a conversation on this subject. It's a topic that I'm sure many of us are passionate about, and I thank you for that, Prof. Fridman.

[@aa3aan]

What a great interview!

[@MrGawn]

Great clips brother.

[@joeys7519]

Lex always bringing the best interviews

[@whhmjr]

I hoped there would have been a clearer description of the physical object, however, all we got was a “cube in a sphere.” Heard many interviews, yet still haven’t heard anything about SIZE of object. A better description would be useful - particularly because it was a clear day. What was the closest object came to aircraft or vice versa.

[@marcospena1668]

I think he said 30 feet in diameter in another video

[@erwinr9328]

@@marcospena1668 that's pretty big man a house like structure flying in the sky not man made is horrific😅

[@mimimo555]

Great interview

[@j.o.4574]

I get to work with a retired Senior Chief who was an engineer for years with the Navy. UFOs have been around for a very long time. Always checking out our new tech.

[@TeamSneakBE]

Yeah right....

[@hx2975]

"That's kind of haunting" I died lmao 🤣

[@hyderhydra3269]

Good Video More on this subject!

[@markcandlin2635]

Great interview, he gave logical no BS answers.

[@sirpancho]

" ...A dark grey or black cube inside a clear translucent sphere and the kind of the apex of the cube were touching the inside of the sphere..." from 15:30, fascinating

[@jonpicojones4032]

Highly intelligent dude, awesome to listen to.

[@stockinski]

Great interview, thank you!

[@muumarlin1731]

Fascinating explanations!

[@keithmanfredi]

What really gets me is that in this event the objects presented themselves at an entry point to a testing area and in the Nimitz incident the object mirrored the pilot's movement and went to a designated cap point before the pilots could get there.

[@mornincorp.2116]

I was thinking the same thing. It seems to imply these things were monitoring their daily flight patterns and entry points. It's quite spooky.

[@topbins1391]

It was messing with them. It knew they were trying to see it, and they never could. It then gave them what they wanted but in an obvious way by appearing in plain sight exactly at their entry point on their exact level, but without showing up on radar, maybe to let them know of its capability or just to mess with them further. It’s very interesting and it would be scary but amazing at the same time to see it in person 🙌🏼

[@danielt.3152]

Right and specifically around our most advanced military systems. I was wondering if the objects monitored our military communications and maybe decrypted it? Also my understanding is the maneuvers would sustain high G forces that humans can not withstand which either means unmanned or not biological life or their biological life can handle high G or they have ways handle high Gs for their form of biological life? My other concern is why would we not see these crafts coming toward earth from the solar system which means maybe they just appear or disappear from reality at a moments notice? Which maybe means inter dimensional object or shifting forward/backward in time to appear and disappear? The whole observed object thing is fascinating,creepy, suspicious,weird,unnerving. We must absolutely sort this out it’s critical to national security and I feel like we need to take one, get it on the ground and dissect it without starting a war if you get my drift. Maybe we need like a General quarters condition 2 kinda thing where capture is the highest priority etc, etc. another thought is this a object a form of biological life from earth that has evolved on earth for eons and evolved to a point that it has these capabilities? Meaning it is a native form of life on the earth?

[@jupitorious7925]

​@@danielt.3152please can you forget National Security or threat , it's this US obsession with aggression and fear mongering.. these objects and beings are so so advanced in everything.. they have been here since the start of human life

[@jimbond]

It's secret U.S. military technology that has been around a long time.

[@jr8295]

love this podcast. thank you lex for doing this. You have a amazing way to ask questions, questions i had and questions i didnt but im glad you asked. Noone is better at it than you. maybe even better than rogan(no shade toward joe)

[@jtapia92]

Such great questions

[@angelakidd8576]

Ryan Graves is GREAT witness, Mechanical Engineering degree & tons of Flight Training, & explains the encounters very clearly- He should be on the news everywhere every single day describing this stuff until people get how HUGE this is, these "non-human" aircraft were flying in their Navy training airspace EVERY SINGLE DAY that his Navy squad was out there for weeks/months. His interview on Joe Rogan radio was even better - The details are amazing! We now have, beyond any shadow of a doubt, physical evidence of UFOs/UAPs flying in our airspace on a daily basis.

[@wa7019]

This is truly the best....per the usual UFO category I always go back to this type of thing...meaning unless you are used to looking at things in the sky from the sky, trained eye and such. The point is this, when you are used to looking at things as a trained pilot this is the best information you will get on the subject is from trained pilots.

[@georgelevison3722]

Love you Lex x

[@thertcll]

You're picking all the right interview candidates

[@Len124]

It's interesting that these encounters are often preceded by equipment upgrades. If I remember correctly, the USS Nimitz had also just undergone some kind of sensor upgrade. It makes sense in that it would be the most likely time to encounter any number of potential explanations, including an enemy drone attempting to study or spoof the new tech, technical errors resulting in false readings, pilot/operator unfamiliarity with the new equipment leading to misinterpretation of otherwise mundane phenomena, or the first-time detection of someone/something observing them just beyond the sensitivity range of the obsolete equipment.

[@jellyfishbones0]

or the ufo adapts to our detection methods as we invent them

[@tomking7080]

But these encounters have been going on since WW2. After the detonation of the first nuclear bomb code name “Trinity” this is when sightings of these craft,UFO’s/UAP’s,dramatically increased. These craft seem to be very interested in our nuclear capabilities. These craft have shut down super sensitive nuclear missile launch sites. In a 2 week period in 1975 this occurred at installations in Montana,Michigan and Maine. It also happened in the 1960’s as well. Not just in the US, the USSR also. Sightings were made visually and on radar by air and ground crews and sabotage-alert forces. Fighter planes were sent out to intercept these craft but were unsuccessful because they could not catch them or even keep up with them because of their remarkable speeds. Technicians were sent in to check the computers attached to these nuclear missiles. They tore them apart and in every case found nothing wrong. Don’t let the military/government fool you. They have definitely been interested in these craft. Supposedly Project Bluebook was shut down in 1969 and the US interest in these craft ended then but that is not true. Lou Elizondo who ran AATIP met a gentleman in the Pentagon that said to Lou “I use to have your job in the 1980’s”. Lou was taken back by what the man said because there was supposed to have been no UFO programs after 1969 with the end of Bluebook. Of course they have been interested in these craft. When they are shutting down your nuclear weapons and are able to avoid your best craft by flying circles around them,the military/government is going to be very interested. There is a small group of people in or around the government,that have been there for many years,that know a lot more about these craft but are not saying anything. Most of these UFO programs have been moved into private industry. Companies like Lockheed Martin and other aerospace companies have been working on back engineering these craft since the late 70’s early 80’s. I believe that the Admiral Thomas Wilson Memo is legit and I thought that it was awesome that Representative Gallagher brought it up during the UFO hearings in May. I’m hoping that the people mentioned in the Wilson memo are brought in to testify under oath and hopefully given immunity to speak about what they know. If this happens then it will blow the lid off this topic and people that have been involved in this secrecy will be shitting their pants because a lot of illegal activities have occurred over the past few decades. I can’t wait to see what happens.

[@jellyfishbones0]

@@tomking7080 My dude, the topic was that the detections seem to come after equipment upgrades, your second post was 437 word *off* that topic. A conversation with you is as erratic and hard to track as the ufos themselves. You sure your not a alien ?

[@praveenpremraj5271]

very well put!

[@blastfromthepast7119]

Sensor upgrades happen relatively frequently and these ufos have been seen/detected since before ww2. I doubt there is a massive correlation.

[@TheBlackClockOfTime]

Can you please talk to the guy that saw the object. I doubt that he has any speculation as to what it is or what it is not. I want to see his face when he describes seeing a dark cube surrounded by a translucent sphere.

[@QuixEnd]

One thing that always pointed towards it being adversarial was how dangerous it's maneuvers were, I like that he highlighted that point. Always made me think of those Kinetic Defense drones but that'd be impossible. Who else could have this type of thing anyway?

[@ClickClack_Bam]

A KZbin channel named: Corridor Crew "reviews" all of these UFO footage then they SHRED these videos with their special effects softwares. I'm not saying I feel they SHRED them, they feel & act as if they have & their followers act that way. Then they recreate the videos how they feel the reported fraud was made on special effects softwares.

[@bcm3938]

If that were the case we’d shoot it down. It’s in our airspace, it’s most likely ours.

[@fugyamofug]

That is a haunting description Im trying to draw it And a black cube inside a metalic sphere Is pretty trippy

[@jacksavage2612]

Thank you Lex for interviewing Lt. Ryan Graves, his interview on 60 minutes is what sold me completely after hearing about commander David Fravors incident. There is a maverick matter of factness with Ryan and what he saw. He’s a top dog fighter pilot and incredibly intelligent, he completely stands his ground that the radar saw something, flir pod saw something and human eyeballs saw something. So SOMETHING is actually out there, 3 modes of proof that can’t be spoofed when added together with testimony. I think the most interesting part about Ryan graves is his honesty through his eyes. Many maybe can’t read or pick up on it, but his eyes and facial expressions represent a man that has had many sleepless nights trying to truthfully make sense of what he saw defying the laws of physics. Incredibly powerful.

[@bobrandom5545]

I'm definitely following this whole thing. But, in the end, it's all anecdotal. They could very well just be very good actors

[@gordonfrimann246]

Sadly there is not a human being alive whos words can be trusted, especially one getting paid to say interesting things. Just consider the fact that humans already develop the ability to lie at only a few years old. Also think about how many lies even close family members tell each other during a lifetime.

[@tomking7080]

@@bobrandom5545 I highly doubt that these exceptional pilots like Ryan, Commander Fravor and Lieutenant Commander Dietrich among other pilots would go in front of Congress and Committees and make all this up.

[@philipmolinayvedia880]

Agree. Absolutely no sign of BS, fluff or candied-up, gratuitous speculation. Thoughtfully interpreted and conveyed, honest, intelligent with great critical thinking skills.

[@dosovnis7090]

@@bobrandom5545 there’s all the radar data not just anecdotal…

[@hx2975]

I am retired 152f, 8 years total deployment, we have the same radar as f18s, and in Afghanistan there is objects like this that pop up daily, most come from the coast and ocean, and always are Mach .8, they also will blip, aka appear in different places and blink away. I never saw them, but they were there.

[@ryanb9749]

Commercial airlines fly at roughly mach 0.8 could that account for some of the sightings?

[@hx2975]

@@ryanb9749 This was in controlled air space, this was when I was deployed, not in training, I only got the new Radar system on the apache that I was assigned to when deployed, there's basically no civilian aircraft in Afghanistan, and all air space is very controlled, I saw things blip into base perimeter, move sporadically, when we would get close they would just blip off radar. Some would come from the upper atmosphere when they entered controlled air spaces.

[@TitusAzzurro]

@@hx2975 Your radar doesn't catch stuff in the upper atmosphere, please.

[@hx2975]

@@TitusAzzurro You can track x, and y speeds, vertical and horizontal, beginning with first radar signature, and can base where the direction they arrive from is.

[@jonasplaysguitar81]

Thank you for your service and for sharing your experience.

[@darianwillis8520]

About time!!! Hell yes!!!!

[@kattanablade]

what brand and model microphone do you use mate ?

[@alberteinstein7448]

U.F.O. which I personally saw, recorded - it was last year, for some reason they got interested in me because literally 3 times in a row [day after day] they appeared to me more or less in the same area of the sky as I was riding my bike from the field. I managed to record twice, the third time I took out the camera too late. The object stood still and then flew away with tremendous acceleration. The second sight, it was already evening - then I also recorded the very moment of departure - the object fired with a powerful acceleration, leaving a glow of "atomic light" behind. Moving on to the first sight - suddenly on a bright, sunny day a very bright, unusual, large star appeared to me - I took out the camera and immediately gave a powerful zoom of up to x500. U.F.O. it stood still for a dozen or so seconds, then it fired, disappeared ... I managed to capture a few seconds with a huge zoom. It was primarily a ball of light, from which some "dome" emerged, some "probes" were pulled out, etc ... It was very difficult to tune this object, keep it in the frame at such a huge zoom ... Of course, I can send the source materials to those interested, but I made a cut-scene of the most important moment with a reduction of up to 1% !!! I am sending a link to the above-mentioned video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2aVpIN9jbZlapY This is the source material : kzbin.info/www/bejne/jarcm395qKuYjJo this video is just a clipping -video slowed down to 1% Recording from the 2nd day of seeing U.F.O. at x500 magnification - U.F.O. stood in place for 15 seconds, then fired with tremendous acceleration. CAUTION- the moment of departure of the U.F.O. also recorded itself. link to the movie: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4TTe5hpfrB-nc0

[@manuelconcepcion1230]

Well, ... not bad, but you can do it much better next time. And all you need is your smart phone or camera plus a little device to capture the UFO sharp and clear during daytime. Search for - They Live 4D - and learn how to do it correctly. Tip: UFOs are cloaked during daytime and at roof level around your town.... don't tell anybody else !

[@mauricep6924]

“That’s an image that’s haunting” Simultaneously the hairs on my neck stand up.

[@zacharygibs3940]

great video

[@jackmack3674]

This is fantastic

[@berninme]

Incredible interview. I would love to hear the account from one of the pilots that physically saw the object.

[@pradeep_sekar]

David frevor?

[@thertcll]

Frayvor (sp) has given detailed accounts on both Rogan and lex.

[@crypt0bank446]

@@pradeep_sekar amazing interview!

[@notnotkevinjohn]

@@thertcll Frevor's account wasn't anywhere close to the quality of this one. He's made several statements that seem to be demonstrably wrong about the systems on board his aircraft, like claiming that the FLIR system isn't on a gimbal mount. He's been very scornful of questions from skeptics. Frevor relies heavily on 'argument from authority' fallacies, and Graves doesn't seem to do ANY of that.

[@williamstevens7934]

As a child in Montana I saw objects in the clear sky do such maneuvers in the 1970s!

[@ukegirl13]

Yes, me too. Not in Montana though. But, yes, in the 70's. 😉

[@DarkDevildog]

Lex, you are cementing yourself as one of the most interesting and best Podcaster's out there. Keep it up and you deserve to get as big as Rogan!

[@mischief8006]

Y have u posted this on every clip on here. Ok u love him. We get it.

[@DarkDevildog]

@@mischief8006 lol only posted this comment once you weirdo

[@mischief8006]

No u haven't.your obsessed. It's really creepy. Ooh notice me

[@daniDEE_tv]

OHHH - FIRE ! about time we get some UFO activity oon Lex Podcast AWSOME

[@jahgol]

A sphere within a cube at 20000 feet and stationary then going 0.8-1.2 Mach.

[@fritzdcat7]

that description of the UFO is so ominous…a dark cube inside of a translucent sphere. it makes me wonder, if these are the transportation vehicles of some kind of alien race (or races), why it seems at times there are different shaped craft (this and other cases being flying saucers, for example). it’s so interesting

[@Mooorino]

Let's say that we find a planet with a relatively advanced civilization that has flying machines of some sort. We also has the possibility to travel to this planet within a couple of houers/days/weeks. Would we really be using manned spacecrafts at our first visit within their airspace? Well, i don't think so! We would probably be using unmanned drones of different types for a very long time to study them.

[@internetj3r]

@@Mooorino ya that’s one assumption but we can’t assume that another race from another planet wouldn’t come here with manned air craft. They have their own intentions for space travel outside of what humans think or act on so they could come here themselves or through unmanned spacecraft. All options are still on the cosmic table.

[@ralphholiman7401]

@@Mooorino , it might just be like someone finding the old Voyager spacecraft millions of miles from Earth and wondering why we didn't send a manned ship instead. Maybe getting these drones here is the height of their technology. And maybe it takes them a really long time to get here.

[@jdfraed123]

@@Mooorino that's an interesting take. What if it's a special branch of the military that is covert tech. Why do things appear in restricted air space when fighter jets are flying around? I think it's US tech and they are trying to not be seen.

[@ether23-23]

its the sea people

[@iandevelin8183]

Lex, you're the man

[@tomwomack3167]

A very interesting probe at 16:30 or so. I am surprised it was large enough to be seen.

[@bperusek]

What was the size of the sphere?

[@TheLyricsGuy]

I’m glad pilots are coming out about their sightings. We need more accounts from credible people.

[@SmurffNationn]

These pilots’ professionalism is inspiring and makes me proud - great representations of their country. Their excitement is tempered by an objective, factual approach to analyzing these phenomena. And the way their brains work (the thought to shoot the object never crossed his mind, the object wasn’t supposed to be there but it didn’t seem threatening, etc.) is super fascinating.

[@Rfilaccio]

The day is coming when what has been covered up will be disclosed, voluntarily, or by subpoena. Graves is brave to keep putting himself out there.

[@Kevin-rr1nm]

I think its clear that we are missing key parts to our understanding of the actual physics and science of the universe. We have to admit that we will be creating a natural bias toward thinking we know the truth of things as we acquire more information. But, we also have to admit that our first understandings of various bases of information could very well be critically wrong and we should be able to deal with those implications without bias in order to effectively seek the understanding that actually makes sense.

[@brandondetroitfanmichaels4325]

Money and power gets in the way of that

[@rexmundi3108]

Multi dimensional/ alternate universe intrusion seems more likely than extraterrestrial to me, just considering the problems of interstellar travel and light speed. Our understanding of the actual physics and science of the universe will expand with a greater understanding of quantum physics. I think it will turn out to be easier to go to another universe than another star.

[@rexmundi3108]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qajYmIRvl6ZmhJY

[@OldSch00l71]

@@rexmundi3108 I once though of this in that exact same way, interesting and nice to see someone articulate enough to put it into words.

[@notnotkevinjohn]

The time to suggest we might be witnessing some kind of new physics is when we have completely failed to explain a situation using old physics. We're no where close to that threshold yet. It would be really exciting if we were, and we had some phenomenon that was testable and seemed to violate the laws of physics as we understand them. But the UAP phenomenon doesn't meet that threshold. The fact that it's so untestable is the problem, not that the laws of physics appear to be violated in some way.

[@user-lp8ur5qn3o]

Back in 86' we had tracked one of these "anomalies" back to the south-west of Colorado Springs.

[@zacharywilson9259]

Could you elaborate, please sir/ma'am?

[@user-lp8ur5qn3o]

@@zacharywilson9259 Sure, we found these things hovering above the Cheyenne Mountain Complex for a while before slowly descending into the military base (NORAD). We don't think they are from the American government. It's more likely the Americans have a way to communicate with them. Years ago, I heard roumours that, inside the base, there is a gate (or enterance) to other habitable worlds. My buddy Jack O'Neill (two L's) from the air force told me a lot about what goes on in there... You wouldn't believe me if I told you.

[@Pikafriends22]

A few years ago, I was seated on a chair in my backyard staring at the stars, contemplating life. A bright light in the distance caught my attention so I continued to look at it. I noticed it was traveling in my direction and within a few minutes it made its way to my house, stopping right above it no more than four stories high altitude-wise. It was a bright, orange, glowing object that made no sound and remained suspended in air for a few seconds until it gradually faded away. To think we are alone in this universe is comical and arrogant. What proof do people need that they do not already possess. Look around, if life on earth is abundant and diverse, why not elsewhere?

[@onepointufo]

A chinese lantern?

[@Pikafriends22]

@@onepointufo What is that? Are you referring to a literal lantern? The object was slightly larger than my home.

[@jonasplaysguitar81]

Thank you for being brave and sharing your experiences.

[@JGunit]

That new radar got one hell of a test out the gate.

[@josephturner2936]

Anyone else JUST learn of this dude because of KZbin suggestions and love the topics he discusses ??

[@michaellyonsca]

no

[@notnotkevinjohn]

Far and away the best Navy Pilot interview on UAP I have seen so far. I really wish Lex had asked a couple of kind of obvious questions: 1. In the video titled 'Gimbal', is there anything reason to think that the apparent rotation of the object is NOT caused by the rotation of the FLIR system's gimbal? 2. In the video titled 'Go Fast' is there any validity to the suggestion that we should ignore what the radar is saying about the position of the object, which tells us it's at ~12,000 ft and moving very slowly, and instead believe that it's very low and moving very fast? 3. Is there any reason he can think of that those who leaked the videos would have edited them to be so short? And why is there such a huge disparity between what pilots have claimed to see, and what the videos released thus far have shown? I genuinely believe that the videos that have been released were examples of pilots making really obvious errors while leaning how to use the systems on their aircraft. I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that they were leaked from a computer involved in the training of new pilots, as examples of what NOT to do.

[@KJ-yk4nq]

It’s intriguing for sure -specifically since he’s clearly a competent and credible guy

[@Rctdcttecededtef]

Right, the flying tic tac, I almost forgot.

[@bobbysack254]

this is really interesting because ive heard reports of UFO sighting where the object is a cube inside of a translucent sphere

[@aaronwest1055]

Losing hair currently, this man is fucking awesome for not covering up his hair. More people need to do it. Much love.

[@donniccolo]

“A gray cube in a clear sphere” 👽

[@praetorian3959]

Oh boy!!!! What a wonderful surprise!!

[@dry509]

Are there any new more recent better clearer pictures?

[@rickys4371]

Black cube bleed through from Simulation Theory! 👽👾

[@eggshan86]

Crazy to think of an intelligence that had millions of years to advance and achieve. Look what humans have managed to do in 150 years.

[@odoylerules4503]

like how dogs are probably mesmerized by cars and tvs

[@TheWhiteWolf2077]

You don’t know how many years,how they compare to humans or if they are even interplanetary or interdimensional beings.. Could be tangible hologram tech by the US government to stoke fear and run an agenda. They could fake a war with UFOs or cause all kinds of hysteria.

[@GG-ry9vp]

Yea but we still don’t have the cure to baldness

[@biohazard8295]

@@GG-ry9vp hair is irrelevant

[@batrickpateman9613]

Great guest and insights, I very much disagree with the view that many have had though to say that if we had this tech that we would see remnants of it within normal society. Something this far ahead of what we generally know is possible would 100% be kept under wraps due to how much of a military advantage it would have over any enemy in my opinion.

[@ajgriffeth7899]

“a Cessna goes bumbling in there” LOLOL

[@faafo2]

Many radars actually have software designed to filter out stuff that doesn't conform to normal aircraft movements. e.g. if it moves too fast or too slow it wont even make its way to the display.

[@hikothe14th]

Black cube inside a translucent sphere with the points contacting the sphere. Yeah, sounds like normal human tech to me, nothing to see here.

[@satorified1612]

Lol. I had the same thought. I love when “debunkers” think they’ve solved the riddle of uaps with their ridiculously simplistic explanations. “So you saw a metallic that landed on the ground? It was obviously the lighthouse that was a mile away.” (FYI, that’s an actual explanation from a “debunker”.).

[@kjireland3567]

I seen an object once hover in one location only to later see it shoot off at an incredible speed. All silent. No idea what it was.

[@blablableh724]

this is gold.

[@dinkogreen4175]

For me the hypothesis that is another nation or an isolated group of people is a bit of a tedious idea. This technology is so far beyond our understanding of reality that if any human group did have this, they would no longer be 'human'. As in have the same motives, goals, understanding of reality as the rest of us. This is not simply a more advanced rocket, with advanced weaponry, made to give one tribe an advantage over another, this is something so alien in concept, that it far succeeds those limbic goals. In other words what use of physical land, resources or money do you need, when you can bend matter, space and time to your will.

[@manuelconcepcion1230]

Right, the technology is mind blowing.... but do search for - They Live 4D - for an alternative explanation and ask questions ... because the truth is stranger than sci-fiction.

[@markthomas7122]

The problem is not steep requirements for funding or engineering excellence, the problem is we don't yet have the science to create these objects. In short, we don't know how they work so we don't know what to build, but it is probably a matter of time.

[@jacquesdemolay5171]

Weather balloons. Definitely weather balloons. -Some government official

[@stephenschenider4007]

5 years or so ago was taking a piss outside and was aimlessly looking up and seen a dot hauling ass. Thought, wow that jet is really high and moving crazy fast for the distance. Then it turned 90 degrees up on a dime and shot off exactly like a shooting star. Even weirder it had no trail at all.

[@hardcorehobbies3809]

Lex, could u ask Why engagement isn’t ordered when radar is jammed or in restricted airspace? These types of events have been documented from previous situations and no engagement were ordered even though deemed an act of war. Also if there is truth to orders for zero engagement from an account in Vietnam War and multiple“enemy helicopters” the enemy didn’t have at that time . Story goes we engaged with multiple a UAV’s but one particular documented engagement we shot at “enemy helicopters “ disappeared just before a direct hit from an air to air missile and disappeared then mysteriously reappeared the following day and hit a friendly ship. Fragmentation from the missile identified it from the night before. From that point on a stand down was commenced. Could be all Tale’s but research seemed accurate.

[@cassiusgolgotha2347]

a spherocubular object, kind of like how the pilots hair is an enigma

[@dietisgreat]

You are bald over your entire body

[@saltygenes]

ETs let us see them. Imagine their advancements and what they can do. The jets didn't fly through or by the object. It CHOSE to be there at the moment and let the pilots and jets see it. Probably an ET drone taking imagery and scans of the jets to see what they're made of the weapons, etc... a dark grey or black cube in a clear sphere". This is mind-blowing.

[@havefunbesafe]

If anybody wants to understand what's going on, read Plato's Alleghory of the Cave. We, humans, are watching only the shadows on the cave wall. These pilots were able to see something not through their spatial/temporal lens but a sneak peak to the OTHER.

[@argile5]

My feelings are that the cube with a sphere around it was Probably a helium balloon with radio controls to set the altitude. When I was a kid I already started building one.

[@natronfatumallafalla1922]

How it it traveling at mach speed for 8 plus hours at s time then? Where's that energy coming from

[@tonybarnes3658]

You have quite a good knack of telling us jokes whilst keeping a straight face!

[@allenphilips7776]

as a military guy who has spent time at Virginia Beach, I appreciate this interview, Lex. And, having done some spook troubleshooting in the past, I would ask if the radar observations were ever successfully correlated between different platforms, on the same 'object', from the same time, to eliminate individual platform/observer bias. and if so, did the observed data (positional vectors/ signal, etc) agree? thanks Lex, again, my son turned me onto your podcast. as an engineer, scientist, and technologist (and one of the first submariners to be nominated by the navy to be an astronaut (1987)), I have a completely different analysis of the probability of aliens visiting earth during humanity's tenure. given the lack of any evidence of the substantial industrial effort which would be necessary to develop the infrastructure to reboot additional sorties towards future stars after a visit here (on the surfaces of our moon, etc), I think it is unlikely that there are other space faring civilizations in our galaxy who have ever visited our solar system. I would be glad to amplify and justify this thesis (similar to the Drake equation), if desired

[@Just.A.T-Rex]

This has been confirmed and discussed in this interview with Fravor. Multiple different platforms, and peoples on different ships and planes looking at different and separate radar/tracking info systems all would get tracks and hits for these things. Most people forget the Nimitz encounter and some of the others were described as a “swarm” of these things not just one, over multiple days.

[@AmFire22]

They are interdimensional, not from another planet. They come in and out through doorways in the ocean essentially.

[@lewisdoherty7621]

Work the problem this way. Maybe they aren't craft, but projections. Plasma can at certain wavelengths under certain conditions reflect radar (UAP IN THE UK AIR DEFENCE REGION REPORT, Ministry of Defence). Naturally occurring plasma is known as FooFighters. This report starts to going into weaponizing these effects, but the censors redact much of this. Plasma can generate light in the infrared and visible spectrums. If a navy were to mount a laser array on a submarine and lower it until the projector tubes were just sticking out (the seen cross structure), then plasma holograms can be generated creating decoys/spoofs over the sea. Radar says something is there, the infrared sensors say something is there and the pilots eyes say something is there. But it is an illusionist trick. Notice how these things occur in areas set aside by the FAA and DoD for the Navy to conduct training and WEAPONS TESTING. The Wizard of Oz isn't an alien. He is human and he doesn't hide behind a curtain, but under the waves.

[@L.C.Sweeney]

We've been asking the question: "what would humanity do if aliens visited us?", for decades. Even if these sightings aren't of alien objects our response seems to suggest most people would deny reality or at worst ignore it.

[@FourthExile]

I've told people about very clear and specific spiritual experiences I've had and one response I got was: "I think it's all in the mind, man". So yeah, people claim they want evidence of a higher reality/different worlds/alien life but they'll deny things that are right in front of them.

[@manuelconcepcion1230]

Well, "aliens" are here already. All you need is your phone plus a little device to see their crafts during daytime. Search for -They Live 4D - and learn how easy it is.

[@galath9242]

Just mindless sheeps

[@Taunt61]

@@FourthExile well you, had them, not them. what did you expect, there have been millions of people reporting spiritual experiences throughout ages. you haven't broken new ground, except in your own world. that's enough, focus on that instead of trying to convince others.

[@FourthExile]

@@Taunt61 hahahaha