UFO Propulsion discovered? NASA Engineer unveils Antigravity Drive!!

Last week, a NASA engineer unveiled a propellantless drive capable of overcoming gravity! Is this discovery for real?
Has UFO Propulsion been decipherEd?
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[@Mr_Top_Hat_Jones]

Absolutely… they don’t break the laws of physics. They are capable of utilizing aspects of physics that we don’t yet understand.

[@baarni]

And how do you know that?

[@teslar1]

⁠@@baarnibecause he’s not arrogant enough to think we know all there is to know about physics

[@baarni]

@@teslar1 But he’s arrogant enough to assume that we don’t …🫤

[@anthonywood7420]

​@@baarniNewton was a genius, but Einstein improved on his work, the latest quantum theorists are working on the shortcomings of Einstein's theories. There are things that our current understanding of physics can not explain. A fundamental rule of this game is as soon as someone says god did it everyone packs up their work and goes fishing.

[@baarni]

@@anthonywood7420 what is an example of something our current understanding of physics can’t explain? Your premise is flawed.

[@tbix1963]

Interesting video, reminds me of a story told by a former coworker. He was working at a copper forging company. One day was working on an internal plant power feeder. Can’t remember the voltage but was definitely 69kv or higher. He was told that a different employee at the plant was upset the feeder was out of service and had said he was going to personally turn the power back on. My friend said he nearly flipped out at the idea of someone ignoring the lockout tags and went to stop the guy as the feeder lines had been bonded together and grounded for a safety clearance. On his way to the switchboard the guy managed to close the breaker. The breaker exploded and luckily no one was hurt. He said the EMF field that pulsed thru the feeder to ground was so strong it picked up every particle of dust in the plant from every possible surface and levitated it into the air. He was also lifted and dropped onto the ground from the force. The dust in the air was thicker than any smoke he had ever experienced. So that be said when the forces are strong enough, even things that aren’t typically considered to be magnetically reactive can be manipulated.

[@jamesgarrison7397]

Damn

[@stephenkolostyak4087]

sounds about right, but dunno.

[@floridaman4073]

That would have been something to see

[@tyler942]

69k nice

[@theeddorian]

The key word in "lock out, tag out" is "lock." If you control key access, no idiot can electrocute you. Themselves, not a problem.

[@wag1492]

It's very simple we don't understand physics the way we think we do...

[@craigjeffrey3236]

Yes..University education only allows for 'Accepted Principles'...Step outside them and you'll be disowned by your 'Peers'....

[@mimetype]

Yes we do, just you don't.

[@pakviroti3616]

Expressed in a slightly different way, there is far more we don't know, than what we do. Our understanding and our models are incomplete.

[@qpwodkgh2010]

@@pakviroti3616 You're way overstating incomplete. The models work. However, if and until you got a better idea, we're sticking with what we got so far.

[@qpwodkgh2010]

@@mimetype YEAH!!!

[@unimatrix82]

They do not defy the laws of physics. They defy our current minuscule understanding of physics.

[@walterlefferts6297]

YES Exactly Correct !!

[@walterlefferts6297]

Correct NO ONE can !! Physics ARE PHYSICS PEROID !

[@avalonsfate]

What you’re talking about in this video isn’t an anti-gravity drive, it’s an electrostatic drive.

[@MichaelWinter-ss6lx]

Yes, the anti gravity works completely different, and is also known for over 100 years now. Still waiting for material science to cope....

[@joeheeney4821]

No, this is another force found operating in the asymmetric capacitor, electrostatic wind will not operate in vacuum. This force has been tested in NASAs vacuum chamber successfully. This causes a distortion of space itself, a warp bubble, the principle of an Alcubierre drive. There is no gravity inside a warp bubble since it is outside of normal space therefore there are no G forces from motion or change of motion since there is no motion of the ship relative to the bubble. There is not only no propellent there is also no fuel. Once charged the capacitors maintain a distorting force on the shape of space without discharging in the process. This describes constant acceleration for years as long as the capacitor is kept charged without the use of fuel or propellent. In under a year and a half at 1.5 G equivalent acceleration you would exceed light speed. There is no limit to the rate of acceleration inside the bubble since there are no G forces operating there.

[@mathiaslist6705]

@@joeheeney4821 it's pretty hard to get a true vacuum --- even the moon has kind of an atmosphere --- as for our solar system there is a measurable solar wind although light from the sun would give more thrust ---- by a strict definition not even electrons would be allowed as they have mass --- not even light and that includes heat

[@skysurferuk]

So... pretty much what Jordan described.

[@jtjames79]

​@@joeheeney4821 "There is no limit to the rate of acceleration inside the bubble since there are no G forces operating there" Cool. So it's an anti-gravity drive.

[@CedarCoveTigerPark]

Angry- Look up the work of Thomas Townsend Brown (T.T. Brown) and his patents on 'electrogravitic' propulsion. The focus was on high voltage DC potential across conductive plates separated by a dielectric medium in geometries that created an asymmetry in charge density, thus leading to measurable forces, including in a vacuum. NEVERMIND! I jumped the gun and you were ahead of the game! Keep up the good work!

[@RockinRobbins13]

That is who Buhler stole the entire concept from and pretended to invent the process 64 years after Brown actually did it. Either way the ion stream was way too power hungry and inefficient to be of any use and the technique isn't used in ion motors today. No, ion power has nothing to do with the mythical imaginary term "antigravity."

[@mauricegold9377]

In a vacuum, huh? There has to be a published paper on that, or a reproducible result from a lab somewhere. I personally don't believe that, or any of the other crap reaction-less propulsion systems that have been invented, but don't work in the lab, under strict experimental testing. This is all woo-science for the gullible.

[@DominikPlaylists]

if you generate big enough voltages everything around will become polarized, magnetized or ionized. Obviously you will see a lot of measurable forces even if you put your experiment in vacuum.

[@RockinRobbins13]

@@DominikPlaylists And where is this high voltage DC power coming from? What possible use is a bunch of polarized, magnetized and ionized stuff flying around randomly? lol

[@RockinRobbins13]

_"NEVERMIND! I jumped the gun and you were ahead of the game! Keep up the good work! "_ You mean Jordan found that Buhler was only duplicating the failed work of Brown in 1960, 64 years age, and went with his video ANYWAY?

[@johndoepker7126]

"You cant break the laws of physics, but you CAN bend them." - a quote i heard somewhere.

[@jumpingman8160]

Probably a scifi movie

[@jamescarter8311]

You cannot break the laws of physics, but we don’t know the laws of physics. We just have theories that mostly seem to work for practical applications.

[@mimetype]

@@jamescarter8311 You've no idea what theory means do you.

[@ericblanchard5873]

Laws are meant to be broken. We just don't understand how to break them...YET!

[@dallas218]

I said it one time while intoxicated

[@slowercuber7767]

BTW, flying toward the center of the galaxy at (near) the speed of light has some impressive hazards. Good luck with that,.

[@wbalthrop]

While this new drive is a very exiting development, it still does not show how UFO's pull of 90deg turns at full speed. With this drive the occupants will still be crushed at extremely high G's. The only type of drive that can overcome G forces is an artificial Gravity field drive which pulls equally on the occupants as well as the ship so occupants feel zero Gs when accelerating. Only problem is no one knows how to build one.

[@alexashworth3119]

Who said these are piloted from the air? Another thing, I doubt most of them are even physical objects. I would think the majority are just 3d holograms and such. Smoke and mirrors. I don't think they fully understand their own technology yet. Let alone possess the capability to generate artificial Gs. Some day we probably will. If we don't die first 😂

[@smartellpr]

Ask SunkWorks, they know how!

[@JezaJames]

@@alexashworth3119 You critizise his rational thought out point, with abstract fantasies.

[@solanumtinkr8280]

It would probably mean that gravity is not what we think it is... Hypothetical Example: Virtual particles are everywhere, I'll called them VPs for short. Tiny little vibrations that are or cannot be actual particles for whatever reason (don't ask me, LMAO). Let's say that each of those VPs typically orient randomly, and like magnetic domains in metal crystals, they cancel each other out... SO what if "visible matter" affects the VPs orientation to some degree... Could 'field lines' be related? Gravity waves being large scale oscillations of that VP'medium... You get the point... That it would not be anti-gravity, but reorientation of that .. err VP feild.. feild of VPs? Don't ask me, lol, it would use a term similar to that in magnetic effects, even if the 2 are generated in separate ways... At least then I could 'entanglement' and the Quantum Eraser have a source.... maybe even explain it that has a higher tops speed than C, as it would not be against whatever a fill particle would be when not in the "VPs excited state"(the moment it bubbles up in the 'quantum foam of space') JUst saying, may be we've been looking at it all wrong, and Dark Energy, Dark Matter, Gravity ect, have an single answer, even if teh VPs come in different flavours... After-all, it's not as if we've been able to study such VPs in exquisite detail, is it?

[@alexashworth3119]

@@solanumtinkr8280 Einstein was right to think about light when he considered gravity. But what good is a big book filled with information if you have no grasp on what the words all mean? Him and all these people don't have a knowledge problem they have a pride problem. Pride makes people stupid. They only believe in what they can observe. Which we know since forever that the world is not made of things you can see but things you can't. Good on you for thinking outside of the box. 👍 🇺🇸

[@stephdigiorgio6383]

Scientific journals and magazines were talking about "cracking the code" to gravity and antigravity back in the 1940s-60s then just all of a sudden stopped publishing anything about it. They definitely knew something back then and have had something since atleast the mid 50s in my opinion. 🤔

[@BSGSG1]

Before the wright brothers!

[@meadbrow8479]

It was from Casimir effect discovered in 1946. This effect is essential for the understand of warping.

[@JROD082384]

That's because of the American official secrets act of 1950. Thousands of patents, if not far more, have been classified top secret by the United States government since the act was put into law, including, but not limited to, devices with demonstrated "antigravity" properties, as well as devices that tap into the zero point energy field, offering scaleable unlimited energy on demand. They can classify and bury any patents deemed to be in conflict with the "interests of the nation" forever. And we know thanks to the lobbying of corporations in politics that the "interests of the nation" revolve around keeping the rich, and their corporations, rich at any cost to the benefit of the general public...

[@keirfarnum6811]

Theories of Everything with Curt J. did a video about that time and referenced how all public discussion just abruptly ended. There were some high money rollers that bankrolled research on gravity that was initially public then went underground. Fascinating stuff.

[@JonnoPlays]

I enjoy your alien bulletins. There's almost no good content in this genre, and when the news cycle is slow the other channels will spin up any drivel and click bait that comes to their imagination. This channel offers legitimate discussion based on science and testimonial from experts in the field. Very impressive, keep up the good work. I've stopped watching just about all the other channels that cover this situation including News Nation because they're really insulting the intelligence of their audience with their most recent offerings. Cheers 🥂

[@RockinRobbins13]

_"There's almost no good content in this genre, "_ And there still isn't any.

[@avalonsfate]

It is not that this technology (anti-gravity) “defies” the laws of physics that we are familiar with. It still utilizes and stays within the laws of physics just fine, it is just that we don’t understand how it relates to the physics we understand. This is something that will have to either be explained to us by entities that use it or we will have to learn this and pass this knowledge on to humanity as a whole.

[@bertdemeulemeester]

Quantum gravity has everything to do with it.

[@corkygoss7403]

I'm studying ball lightning at MFMP on YT with Bob Greenyer. Natural, and artificial with aspects of transmutation in addition to cancelling mass. Best.

[@craigjeffrey3236]

And we have to have the layered 'Meta material' to apply any new understanding to..

[@jamescarter8311]

There are physics that we’re familiar with, not laws. We don’t know the laws of physics. We just have theories that mostly seem to work for practical applications.

[@RockinRobbins13]

We know exactly how it works, Its a pitifully inefficient ion engine. Ion engines aren't antigravity, they don't bend or break the laws of physics. Tagging "antigravity" onto this really poor ion thruster isn't enough to travel to the 7-Eleven.

[@lynn6799]

Not seeing people again would make me hesitate to leave in the first place. Theres people here worth sticking around for.

[@ConfirmedCynic]

Wake me up when they're sending a prototype into orbit.

[@keirfarnum6811]

Okay Rip Van Winkle. 😉

[@mercurusblastomus879]

Townesend Brown. a well documented early experimenter in High voltage electrostatics .

[@stu176mmm]

1.21 gigawatts Brown?

[@ZionistWorldOrder]

Electrogravitics= TT Brown + victor schauberger + a power source = humanity saving product

[@SHERMA.]

they rotate liquid mercury inside pipes around the anti grav engine not sure why cos im stupid af but apparently its true

[@naradaian]

@@SHERMA.thats sort of the usual description of the ‘nazibell’ experiments. dr Farrell writes about it and Lavendra

[@artlife6210]

exactly, theyre ralking about electrostatics and assymetric capacitors...thats known as a Gravitor and was created by Brown a loooong time ago.

[@artlife6210]

@@SHERMA.the mercury creates a toroidal shaped gravity well in front of the vortex drive and Pulls the engine/craft into it, while everything they use now expels something out the rear to Push, a true anti gravity system will negate the gravity, creating a void which everything(the craft) around it rushes into, not create its own gravity to "propel" a craft.

[@RockinRobbins13]

No, it equals a giant fraud with no use at all. Modern ion motors don't use unsymmetrical capacitors.

[@iiq2002]

Exactly! Our limited understanding of the laws of nature...There is so much to know...

[@falstaff59]

Exactly. Anything utilizing forces we have not yet discovered or ones that we do no fully understand is not violating anything we know. And how much do we really know...?

[@falstaff59]

@@marcosolo6491 I think you either recognize the fact that huge leaps in our understanding that are forcing a general rethink of long held beliefs or not. What you think...what I think...won't change that fact.

[@RockinRobbins13]

@@falstaff59 Understanding doesn't grow by huge leaps.

[@mustang607]

Still need a replicator, matter transporter, warp drive engine, as well as dilithium.

[@pauldunlop1660]

A step in the right direction and while Impulse drive is better than nothing, its just not that much better...

[@bertdemeulemeester]

And riker's signature chairmove

[@Tallacus]

We may already have Star Trek-esque Replicators in the form of Electron Microscopes. Apparently they have been observed pushing atoms together. Google it "Electron Microscopes seen filling in cracks on a crystal" from The Debrief. KZbin doesn't allow links.

[@erika8357]

I think unobtainium would do a better job than dilithium 😁 Actually, unobtainium is a pretty suitable name for the negative mass needed for the suggested Alcubierre drive.

[@johndoepker7126]

We need to find the 'graviton' first....then we can make an anti-graviton emitter....🤔

[@mikefeierberg7712]

Keeping the electric charges separate requires a power source. The power source would be an engine burning fuel and creating exhaust. It would be more efficient to dispense with the electrostatic component and just use the engine exhaust to propel the ship forward.

[@RockinRobbins13]

No actually this thing uses a direct current battery. I suppose you could turn it in a Frankenstein Monster with a powered generator. But it's already woefully inefficient.

[@mikefeierberg7712]

@@RockinRobbins13 What kind of battery can propel a ship thru space? Maybe an RC airplane for a few minutes.

[@alexashworth3119]

@@mikefeierberg7712 Nuclear? Seems like you'd need an immense amount of power.

[@RockinRobbins13]

@@mikefeierberg7712 _"What kind of battery can propel a ship thru space? "_ My point exactly. This thing is a scam.

[@michaelkelso6453]

….So it’s the Biefield-Brown effect?

[@Truthrevealed4022]

Yep. Been here for a long time.

[@mikesmicroshop4385]

Close, but the method they are using is a bit different. That being said the results are the same.

[@RockinRobbins13]

Yes, a woefully inefficient ion motor. That's all Buhler has. He also has a cash vacuum pump if he can drum up a few more victims.

[@Denyernator]

14:50

[@billschara5667]

Similar, but more complicated, to how a sail propels a sailboat with regard to pressure. It is the negative pressure on the leeward side of the sail that "pulls" the boat, not the wind "pushing".

[@grandrapids57]

yes, it is a similar thing with an ordinary airplane, lift is vacuum powered.

[@RockinRobbins13]

@@grandrapids57 Actually, no, vacuums or low pressures don't suck. The energy comes completely from the normal pressure air behind the sail, wing, propeller or any similar device. You produce a pressure difference. The high pressure drives the surface it's against away, toward the lower pressure until the two pressures equalize.

[@magnitudematrix2653]

Laminar scaler flow. Dolphins use hydraulic laminar flow in front of cargo ships to save energy as they swim by moving their tail in a circular fashion in front of the bow of the boat. To make that a scaler function you need space, negative gain and a mass, which would be hydrogen. And your universe is 78% hydrogen, just so you know.

[@grandrapids57]

@@RockinRobbins13 Ah, now Is the lower pressure side less than 1 atm or at 1 atm?

[@mauricegold9377]

@@magnitudematrix2653 The universe is not 78% hydrogen. More accurately, the masses that comprise the universe contain 78% hydrogen (whether by weight or volume, I have no idea, as I'm just adjusting your claim slightly).

[@KaliFissure]

Beifeld Brown effect. Classic.

[@Todd.P]

UFO Speed only 362 MPH?! They've been clocked going MUCH faster than that!!!

[@fredricklawrence5814]

People need to remember that Albert Einstein never fully finished General Relativity before he died as there was still a lot of missing pieces left in it like fully uniting mathematically the understanding of gravity into relativity, which was never fully finished at the time of his death. There was still a lot we did not know about gravity until decades later and we still came short, which draw the conclusion that there was still a lot of missing pieces to the puzzle of relativity thus making Quantum Mechanics even work with general relativity for Albert was next to impossible and he was even theorizing on that before he died. It is just maybe NASA has figured out where gravity sits in general relativity after a lot of theorizing and research and development since the Roswell crash. I wouldn't doubt that some of the best scientist in the world work for NASA.

[@charlesw6199]

Apparently, we don't actually understand the laws of the universe. We're just arrogant and think we understand them?

[@severeon]

Most scientists readily admit that we don't understand the laws of physics. We have useful approximations in the form of equations which fit the observations we've made thus far

[@zeusdarkgod7727]

​@@severeonboth don't fit together when talking about the big and small.

[@severeon]

@@zeusdarkgod7727 exactly! We know our equations don't work for the whole of reality

[@RockinRobbins13]

No, that's not it at all. You are a victim of fraud here: word salad meaning precisely nothing. Pay your money and reap your just reward.

[@AllenBarclayAllen]

How we suppose to make that change when physics professors still express nutons law gravity to the center of earth core which is liquid metal and has no meginetic gravity . The same professor that has a magnetron in his cell phone AND HAS NO DAMN IDEA WHAT A MAGNETRON DOES . We are suffering from grotesque stupidity ! 17:02

[@Katsu671]

More UFO/UAP content please 👍🏽

[@patkelley4071]

Toward the end of the Bluebook project, electrostatic drive was a proposed method of UFO propulsion, but the problem was how to generate enough power to generate the force needed to propel a vehicle. Most observed strong electrostatic forces have been generated by power stations capable of generating a megawatt of power, which is not exactly something you can package in a spacecraft.

[@roberthigbee3260]

Not saying it isn’t real, but being awarded a patent does not mean it works. Patents are granted by folks who are 60% lawyers and only 40% engineers. A patent first and foremost certifies that no one else has filed similar language. No working prototype or test data is required by the patent office. Some old time dude was mentioned. If his invention was real it would have been made by now and before you say it, there would not be a conspiracy strong enough to prevent something so profoundly useful as this from getting out and being made. Lastly, always be suspicious when an inventor says: “I’m not sure how it works.”

[@mikefeierberg7712]

I have a simpler idea. Put a sail on the front of a ship and put a fan on the back of the ship, and the fan will blow on the sail and propel the ship forward.

[@AdrianBoyko]

In this case, I think they’re just putting a fancy fan on the boat pointing backwards.

[@JcoleMc]

mm what if we put the sail on top of the boat then point the fan upwards .

[@mauricegold9377]

Yes, that concept has always been good for a laugh, and some sad people believe it works. it doesn't.

[@phoenixmotorsport647]

Thats the Biefeld-Brown effect - look up Lifters

[@mikesmicroshop4385]

Not quite, but very similar! Regardless the basic idea is almost 100 years old!

[@gregmatthews7360]

T Townsend Brown. 100 years ago. Asymmetric charges with I think a strong negative charged leading edge. He was simulating UFOs in a gym using this approach and then the US Military confiscated it

[@yourhandlehere1]

Many years ago I was outside with a neighbor girl one night. Persieds had been recently and we were still looking for an occasional meteor, laying back on the hood of the car. We saw two stars switch positions. Circular path like on a wheel. "Did you see that?" She said "yeah...I'm going home now" I stayed and watched a long time, they never moved again, I checked every time I went out at night...there was a hill and tree line so I knew where they were. A few years later, Close Encounters came out...the ufos did the constellation thing and I went HAH!

[@mimetype]

Y'mean UFO stuff bores chicks away?

[@yourhandlehere1]

@@mimetype She was scared.

[@RockinRobbins13]

@@2painful2watch Strange that lay people see these weird things all the time and 50 year amateur astronomers don't. I guess it's part of being an expert on the sky that the UFOs know to avoid your eyesight.

[@fteoOpty64]

​@@RockinRobbins13Oh, they do!. Many cases documented of multiple eye witnesses for which a few did not see it while others did and described what they had seen consistently in separate interviews. my view is their cloaking tech cannot shield some consciousness of some humans.

[@RockinRobbins13]

@@fteoOpty64 Multiple eyewitnesses with no skills to provide evidence, while scientists and astronomers see nothing of the sort. If these figments of the imagination were real billions of cell phones would have clear, unmistakable photos and there wouldn't be any question. Alien spacecraft would be like clouds: universally accepted.

[@synonys]

Electrostatic forces aren’t antigravity Antigravity is not possible under general relativity

[@RockinRobbins13]

A thousand thrumbs-up for you penetrating the bullschnitzel to arrive at a truth that will be attacked by all these alien enthusiast wishful thinkers.

[@aaaaa5272]

Why not start another channel "The Angry Saucer".

[@flewdefur]

Perhaps 'The saucy saucer'

[@finnishview2933]

If this is true, new era soon begin. However i like to know and see more before i buy that.

[@RockinRobbins13]

If ifs and butts were candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas!

[@SLDM1962]

The anti gravity patent exists since 2019, the author is Salvador Cesar Pais, the owner is the US Navy and it is free to use and there is a working model.

[@Unknown_Random_Guy]

Dr. NING LI from MIT, look her up. Watch a few youtube videos about her. She discovered antigravity and was offered work with DARPA then disappeared. She used superconductors and rotating bodies to reduce gravitational force and published peer-reviewed proof.

[@barrybell9939]

Only works in an atmosphere(experiment cited force in vacuum is too small)Thomas brown was only able to levitate charged plates for a few minutes. Not enough force to be practical.

[@mikesmicroshop4385]

The method here is different so it will need to be tested in a vacuum! They are not relying on ionic wind for propulsion in this case so more tests will need to be done!

[@RockinRobbins13]

@@mikesmicroshop4385 According to both Buhler and Brown they ARE relying on ionic thrust for propulsion here and the most they've been able to produce is 1 gram.

[@bradleyford117]

I think shiny saucers theme would probably go well with the static electric propulsion concept. Considering stainless steel has electro magnetic properties. I also believe I read somewhere that silver infused aluminum has some interesting electrical properties.

[@mauricegold9377]

Yes, but mass has inertia, and the toys that these eccentric weirdos were playing with cannot deal with that.

[@mauricegold9377]

Yes, but mass has inertia, and the toys that these eccentric weirdos were playing with cannot deal with that.

[@mauricegold9377]

Yes, but mass has inertia, and the toys that these eccentric weirdos were playing with cannot deal with that.

[@bradleyford117]

@@mauricegold9377 if you have anti gravity that would cancel out inertia wouldn't it ? Or maybe they could just reverse the polarity of the electric field.

[@mauricegold9377]

@@bradleyford117 More flux capacitors, vicar?

[@asiseeit...6915]

Great video, thank you! Please consider that 'thrust' is not being 'created' with gravity control, but rather it is a result of 'upsetting' a balance condition. Take the example of an individual standing on the surface of the Earth and then imagine an infinite plane right under his shoes and tangent to the Earth's surface at that point. Consider then that the plane has bisected the universe into two sections. One section with the Earth, the other without. Next, for the purposes of this discussion, let's change the laws of physics (because we already know gravity propulsion won't work with the present laws). So let's consider (just for the moment) that the vacuum space of the entire universe is chocked full of electrons. Lots and lots of extra electrons! With the electrons, we can now consider that gravity is NOT some mysterious attractive force from within the atom, but is instead a non-contact repulsive mechanism that extends through 'empty' space as well as all matter (the 'vacuum' space within all matter.) Back to the example. Everything is now in repulsion, including the sections on either side of the plane. But one side of the plane has the Earth in the way. The Earth, because of all the protons and neutrons (in all the atoms) now act to displace a few of the electrons, the Earth acts as a repulsion impedance and the push from above the individual is greater than the push from below. To lessen the weight of the standing individual, or even make him weightless, consider a 6" thick and flat dielectric plane (let's say it 100 ft x 100 ft) a couple feet above the individuals head, and parallel to the bisecting plane - and make it have a repulsion impedance, but don't use heavy protons and neutron to displace the electrons, use another method to thin out the electron density. T T Brown, Becker & Blatt, Mike McCullough et al. and their asymmetrical capacitors.. If you recall, all these folks saw a weight change effect (none were hardly over 2%) as a transient, ie. when Brown's capacitor was charging, or when Mike slowly ramped up the voltage on his dielectric. Different asymmetrical shapes did help this effect (more on shapes later) but what they all failed to see was the dielectric material (while charging with a positive voltage) had fewer electrons within it, or essentially a net positive (and transient) bulk charge. So create a repulsion impedance above the individual with the same magnitude of impedance that the Earth has, and the dude becomes weightless. Create more impedance, and the dude is pressed up against the bottom of that overhead plane. (and that's getting into the propulsion discussion, but lets talk shape first..) So if our individual makes his way over to the edge of the overhead plane, he will experience some crazy gradients! The flat plane works well on the larger scale craft, just stay away from the edges, lol! For the 24ft diameter "sports model", the gradient is minimized by keeping the occupants tucked up under the dome. Same works for the large propane tank shaped 'tour busses' (aka tic-tacs) The positively charged dielectric above acts an a repulsion impedance, but it can also be thought of as having an 'effective mass'. You can simply use the 'effective mass' in the gravity equation for your calculations. Back to the sports model.. Put all of the heavy stuff under the dome - passengers, life support systems, food, power supply, etc. because all that mass serves as the 'lift mass' to propel the craft - and don't pollute while on your travels. You will need all that crap in order to make a safe return landing, LOL!

[@SLM-hf1cr]

This leads to the understanding of the illusion of time dilation, where vacuum energy comes from and what 'black holes' really are. Energy is everywhere and what we are really doing is just figuring out ways to access different forms or via new, more efficient processes. One thing to consider with the electrostatic propulsion unit is that its magnetic surfaces must be able to be deformed at will. If one tries to build a 'solid' or rigid construct it will inevitably (and probably quickly) lose efficiency resulting in losing effect and plummeting to the surface or landing and becoming stranded. Besides this you would want to be able to change direction at will and at any heading, so there's that too. This could be accomplished with plasma in magnetic fields. A fission or fusion device could suffice but why not save yourself some money and space and just go zero point? ;-) It's nice to see (hopefully) at this point tech like this can some forward without inventors becoming catastrophically unhealthy or having it socked away under natsec bs. We desperately need some of this tech to deal with what's coming down the pike over the next decade or two. We desperately need decentralized power and mechanically simpler (and less explosive) devices to get over the hump so to speak. And no, it's not climate bs. If you'd like to know it's not hard to find and the journey will be good exercise. Clue: When Ra is in a mood how does one avoid his gaze?

[@jonny3003]

I'm really missing one or two links to the source of your report, at least a link to the text you are quoting in the video. Also showing all the UFO footage while talking about the Exodus Drive doesn't make sense - it's only a distraction. Rather show the text or some graphs which are related to what you talk about like for example at 15:12. Besides of that the Exodus Drive is very interesting indeed. I hope it's not again something like the EM Drive which surfaced 3 or 4 years ago and then vanished again without really working. Thanks for the video!

[@TheAngryAstronaut]

Yeah...unfortunately, there really isn't any public diagrams or illustrations on Edidus, so I used what I had.

[@jonny3003]

@@TheAngryAstronaut I was googling a bit and there is a presentation from Charles Buhler with several photos and diagrams in this video: "APEC 12/23: Asymmetrical Capacitance, Warp Drives & Torsion Physics". Thanks for the reply!

[@legi0n715]

I do agree that some of the images that float around while hes talking are distracting, but i am almost always only listening Edit: I'm talking about the images before the main topic starts, the images that go with the topic are typically 🔥

[@SuckmeoffthenTarzan]

I like the videos. They’re performing what he’s talking about lol

[@RockinRobbins13]

Simply call it EM-Drive 2: grandiose claims with maybe even NASA signing on for a test. Not a gram of thrust produced and it will turn out to be a simple unbalanced capacitor making a puny, inefficient ion stream posing fraudulently as "antigravity." Then everybody will be shocked and astounded. Fraud is rampant and we have to learn not to fall for it. Wishful thinking is not science.

[@silverc4s146]

Recall Magnepan Magnaplanar loudspeakers. I think they were electrostatic using this principle

[@cynvision]

I recall some babble back in the 1980's that focused speakers were going to revolutionize advertising in grocery stores. Since that, nada.

[@mauricegold9377]

They weren't. I had Magneplar 1.4s. Now Quad loudspeakers from England were electrostatic.

[@Virtueman1]

Interesting, and its fun to speculate, but: You have 100's of kV DC on high voltage transmission wires on the electrical grid. The power supplied to the cables is immense. The ground below is electrically grounded. Why don't such cables fly away, if this propulsion method is accurate?

[@WG-tt6hk]

When it comes to the "known laws" of physics, humanity suffers from hubris. What we know compared to what there is yet to be learned is like comparing a swimming pool to the Pacific Ocean. For example: in 1900 , British Physicist Lord Kelvin stated "Now , there is noting new to discover in physics. Only more and more precise measurements. "

[@scottcameronpedigo219]

Can we at least get the mesh uniforms the crew members wore in the TV series "UFO" (1970-1971)?

[@g.f.martianshipyards9328]

No way this actually works.

[@michaelwoodby5261]

I have been aware of this guy for a while, and I can't bring myself to believe his claim. Not because I don't think there's some basic tricks of physics we haven't found, but because if he had really managed to produce a propulsion system strong enough to counter gravity, it would be immediately provable. He says he needs to send this gadget to space to demonstrate it works in micro gravity, that's fine. Doesn't require it to hitch a ride on a rocket. A transponder, a camera, and radio transmitter duct taped to the side of one of these devices would silence all doubt instantly change the world. Since that hasn't been done we can just assume the system doesn't work.

[@theeddorian]

While it can't be seen here, the object in the image at 7:55-8:15 is structurally reminiscent of TT Brown's design shown later. It also resembles the photographs that George Adamski claimed were of UFOs. Basically, it looks like a light fixture or chick incubator. The image at 7:55 was used as a sample in developing a method for estimating object size and distance in photographs, where depth of field could be determined from lens characteristics. The paper discussing this was published in an engineering society journal in the early '70s.

[@patryn36]

Saying it is another species is an assumption in the extreme. It may be an older batch of humans doing this, there has been enough time on this planet for at least one to pull this off.

[@Julian-hx9yp]

Thanks Salvator Pais

[@JDKline]

I was thinking about him and how this might relate to his patents with the US government. He was on "Theories of Everything" with Curt Jaimungal. I'm not really good enough at math and physics to understand how all this is supposed to work or if it could work on a craft, not just in theory. We probably also need a big amount of electricity, right?

[@JROD082384]

Why are you thanking Pais for? He hasn't invented anything. He has merely rediscovered work already discovered thousands of times by as many people over the past century. Most killed by the government and their work stolen to keep the technology out of the hands of the public...

[@dannydaugherty527]

I don't know what or who it was, but last fall I had something fly over my house, it was a little over 100 feet up, I would say 200-300 feet long, about 100 feet wide, absolutely no sound, no lights, it was probably the shiniest thing I have ever seen, there were no wings or tail, I watched it for about 4 minutes and it went about 2 miles roughly in that time the top and bottom were arched, no sign of any motor, it was the strangest thing I have ever seen and I will probably go to the grave with people not believing me, but I know what I saw, I have lived on the same property for the last 28 years, and the area for 50 years and never in my life thought I would see anything like it, I hope I never see it again, and the only thing I can say is we are not alone, I know that for a fact now after seeing this.

[@kurtisengle6256]

13:10 Important point : The Pilot was well aware of what he was about to film. That means either FAKE AND A HALF, or, multiple passes from the ufo. Interstellar brake checking is not cool. Is it fake? Or is someone being a jerk?

[@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler]

I really don't understand the people saying that these uaps are breaking laws of physics just because they're able to move around they're not going faster than the speed of light or anything so what's the big deal lol 😂

[@alvarofernandez5118]

They appear to not obey inertial restrictions perhaps. If you're going very fast in one direction, then suddenly go in another direction, you would typically need to change your velocity vector gradually or your crew is pulp. In fact, every time you change direction that's an acceleration. So e.g. Mach 1 due north, then dead stop? How? Beyond the crew being dead, we have no known aerodynamic mechanism to shed that much speed that quickly - neither air brakes, nor retro rockets, nothing whatever. What's more, we have no known physics which address how to to so. That's what they mean when they say the UAPs seemingly flout physical laws.

[@gerryjamesedwards1227]

It's things like accelerating, and turning, so suddenly that any Human occupant would be pulverised by the G-forces.

[@mervstash3692]

Show us proof of anything doing any of that. All these dumb claims have been debunked to death. None of them do anything except fly in straight lines and all behave exactly as any number of earth bound flying craft or animal would.

[@gwhite7136]

Fascinating. Once you get past the power output or energy used you start to generate Torsion fields and their effects of anti-gravity. What also is interesting is this is the first patent for propulsion that has zero use for known propellent rocket fuels. There is but one way to completely beat Space X and that is the development of energy anti-gravity craft and the implementation of them. There have been many in the past but this is the first patent of a known NASA mind being taken seriously. Why, and why now? Or is this a way to divulge this new/hidden, already in existence technology to the world? Hard to say but they seem to be treating is as if it's the first they've ever heard or experimented with this kind of propulsion technology.

[@mr.tibs1334]

When they figure out how gravity works. The skys the limit. The fancy new elements only go so far.

[@jamesgreenler8225]

A genuine UAP has an energy force field. Something we haven't discovered yet. Ut has some perks. Without the field no anti gravity . Its like an impenetrable bubble that separates the inside from the outside so that even inertia is created separately. Takes a quantum computing electronic gyroscope to navigate it around. That's what I think but honestly nobody really knows how they work. Not even the oeeps reverse engineering craft left behind or crashed.

[@JZsBFF]

Fun fact: gravity isn't a force. End of UFO story.

[@Amipotsophspond]

likely true, but still able to help bend light or at least able modify the fabric that the light travels along.

[@MrJohnnyLighting]

Then what is it I saw as a young man in my early 20's? Because it damn sure wasn't anything natural in the sky that looked man made 😂😂😂

[@MichaelWinter-ss6lx]

But the gravity field can still be warped. Without negativ energy or other fantasy products. It still will require something other for propulsion, and this might be it.

[@glenwaldrop8166]

That is why we can't figure it out. Gravity is a force. Einstein was working on unifying gravity and magnetism until the day he died. They are separate but they are intertwined. He was on the right track and seems most people have just decided Einstein's work was complete, which was the opposite of his goal.

[@FMDD168]

Fact True probably. Conclusion false.

[@legoseanland1760]

It just occurred to me, the billions-dollar industry that is fueled by “are we alone?” Would go away if that question was answered

[@randomcast3183]

Answers haven't stopped flat earthers yet.....

[@dimitrissarris2371]

if the answer is no then it 'll be multibillion for obvious reasons. If yes it'll be again multibillion but for more complicated ones.

[@SuckmeoffthenTarzan]

Billions lol millions sure but billions? Lol name one ufologist that is a billionaire

[@juancho71]

On the contrary, if it is "officially answer" it will become a trillion dollar industry.

[@bigcauc7530]

I don't know how you even came to this conclusion.

[@ebb2421]

From 2016 to 2020, for example, the team’s best devices were producing a little over one hundred thousandth of a gravity. Ultimately, though, they set out to achieve “unity,” Buhler told The Debrief in a recent interview. Unity refers to the moment the drive produces enough thrust to lift itself in Earth’s gravity. not any time soon...

[@user-sf3dw2sm3b]

I saw a nasa scientist on a tv show call the black files I think. He said E-M drive isn’t just for the military now. He said he had succeeded in producing thrust in a vacuum. Something was said very close to that but maybe not the exact words.

[@powerfalcon2329]

Electrostatics forces are a several hundred magnitudes to weak to move a craft like UAP do ! Radar report show same UAP going to orbite et come back to see level many times in less than a hour !!

[@billschara5667]

Only your science fiction limited mind would assume this. There are yet undetermined and maybe even not yet discovered ways of applying this. All you need is a theory to put into some form of practical use, then find ways to perfect it or apply it to whatever the goal is. Limited brains puts down barriers because they don't understand. You're obviously not any sort of authority that would have a clue ... neither am I, but I recognize there's a ways to go for practical use and am not willing to limit that based on assumptions based on complete and total cluelessness.

[@MichaelWinter-ss6lx]

Ha, depends on how strong a field can be made....

[@powerfalcon2329]

@@billschara5667 Not science fiction ! it a prooved fact by science since centuries: Electrostatics forces are a several hundred tausend magnitudes to weak to move a craft to space and back to earth !! UAP can not move with insignifiantly week eletrostatique push the way US SPACE defense recorded them !

[@powerfalcon2329]

@@MichaelWinter-ss6lxeven on lifter with 20 000 volt you can lift only a few gramme + inside power source would be 10000 times to heavy !!

[@ReiseLukas]

This drive reminds me of the power system in the Nautilus from Jules Verne's 20,000 Leagues under the Sea.

[@richardfs7814]

This electrostatic drive is not what propels UAPs. The forces created by this electrostatic drive are applied to the ship itself (and I suspect a very weak force). If there are living beings inside such a ship then you are limited to how many Gs you can accelerate, otherwise the body parts of the crew will be splattered on the walls of the ship. The UAPs seen in our skys are capable of a huge number of Gs. Some other drive method must be in play, such as a warp drive that accelerates ship and everything in it (no splattering of body parts). This is not the drive you are looking for if you plan on traveling to the stars.

[@robbhendrickson]

*IF* his results are replicated, they do not explain something like 90° turns at 10,000 mph, etc. At most, Exodus’ invention accelerates at just over 1g. Also, his emphasis on miniaturization being the key to achieving >1g would seem to imply no practical application. However also if true/proven, he & his team will get a Nobel Prize for discovering a new EM force.

[@blackbass4u2c]

Just because humans on Earth doesn't understand natural laws of physics doesn't rule out the ability to engineer things to defy laws we understand. Electrostatic is the conversion of gravity when the law of thermodynamics applies...

[@jamescarter8311]

You cannot defy laws. That’s a contradiction. We don’t know what the laws are.

[@satanael9260]

Electrostatics and gravity are two distinct forces; they have nothing to alter them directly.

[@blackbass4u2c]

@@satanael9260 electrostatic is the decaying version of gravity... It builds up in the earth and is released as lightning. The energy displaced is transfered into spacetime energy allowing for future time to emerge. It's one reason time gets slowed down around a black hole.

[@danielroden9424]

you just need to generate 1 newton of thrust. hell even 1/2 or 1/10th just 1000x over noise or heat / weird micro electromagnetic anomalies. but they never do. its always 1/10000ths of a newton that a fart from a mosquito could produce.

[@MrKydaman]

To me it sounds like what the patent explains as a difference in voltage on the surface of the craft is like the aerofoil design of a wing. More pressure on one side and less pressure on the opposing side, and you'll push craft in the direction of the lower pressure side. The craft is simply taking the path of least resistance.

[@RockinRobbins13]

No, this craft has a really crappy and inefficient ion motor.

[@TheIgnoramus]

I like that you ended in time dilation. It is a major part of the key to how this stuff works, and how “they” work, I believe.

[@jamiesnow2670]

They are here and it baffles me the secrecy or denial is still being pushed by the status quo.

[@mimetype]

The Band? Status Quo?

[@ReiseLukas]

You have to try to put yourself in their shoes and ask: What truth about aliens would warrent the government (any government) to want hide their existence from people? The first possible answer is to prevent chaos, but I think that's less and less likely. 2nd possibility is to prevent people from realizing that certain beleifs may have been right all along. The existence of aliens you would think would disprove many religions, but what if these aliens have appearances similar to creatures depicted by many religions? Angels, demons, and many more could actually be confirmed to exist as extraterrestrial life. That would shake up the world system like never before

[@charlescz1974]

Not ontological shock, not riots, not upsetting religious dogma… the gov will not reveal being subservient to a higher power; ET or not.

[@IllumTheMessage]

Gravity is not a force

[@RockinRobbins13]

And that applies to Buhler's Folly how?

[@crazzylee]

I've seen how it works. This type of propulsion has first been implemented in Russia's stealth submarines. The propulsion acts similarly to a rail gun but causes the charged medium between rails to become repulsive.

[@wbalthrop]

Important note: Whren Angry says travel to the center of the galaxy in 12 years he is referring to the clock on the ship. People still on Earth will experience over 113,000 years pass. If they want to stop when they get there then they need 24 ship years and 226,000 Earth years. So a round trip will take about half a million Earth years while the astronauts only age 48 years.

[@tim1883]

Townsend Brown.

[@Truthrevealed4022]

Facts been around for decades!

[@tim1883]

@@Truthrevealed4022 Ya, I typed that before Angry got there. Around 1989 or 90 in my E-mag theory class we looked into it as a project. There is something in rotating the anode plate, both plates needed to be concave and facing each other. We couldn't get the math to work. But it was just a project in an undergrad class.

[@Truthrevealed4022]

@@tim1883 💰😂🎰

[@Critter145]

💯

[@arcturax]

This isn't an antigravity drive or even a warp drive, but if it really works this is revolutionary anyway. If you want a Star Trek tech comparison, instead of warp drive this would be impulse drive. This would allow flight like you see in Back to the Future II as well, though that would require a lot of power (i.e. Mr Fusion, which has yet to be invented). However on a space craft, especially a long range probe this would be ideal! You could have a RTG or nuclear powered probe that could fly at incredible speeds and it would put many far out solar system destinations into reach. Wanna see Eris or Sedna up close? Done with this drive! It would also allow easier off world access to people and allow construction of large scale ships in orbit. While Space X SuperHeavy/Starship also will allow this with chemical launches, it would be far far pricier and riskier than with a drive like this. That said, I've only found a little info on this and right now its about as sus as LK-99 was when it was announced. Hopefully its not another LK-99/Cold fusion moment.

[@lcarlson7725]

Gotta admit, when I saw that UFO at 0:33, my skin crawled. The incredible detail. Usually UFO pics are just a shaky, blurry dark unfocused ball/disk captured by the laughably poor cameras of yester-year. Now, with our literal billions of 12+ Megapixels phones around the entire planet, we finally see - with crystal clear clarity - the details of alien spacecraft.

[@Spherical_Cow]

Uh... I hope this is sarcasm? Because that's a computer-generated image, not a photograph.

[@lcarlson7725]

@@Spherical_Cow lol. Yes....intense sarcasm. Kind of tired looking at out of focus blobs tbh

[@Critter145]

Disagree about time dilation. Experimental data doesn’t show “time” moving more or less quickly, it merely indicates discrepancies in oscillations of atoms used to tell the clocks how much time had passed. One might think that, decoupled from its electrostatic environment, atoms might behave sightless differently, but the idea that time travel is suddenly occurring is absurd; to me anyway.

[@Airwaves-Radio]

The description says this will work in a vacuum. It may work in an atmosphere as well, but can it overcome the resistance of the atmosphere without the friction and sonic boom, as UAP have been observed doing?

[@derby6263]

This is simple. When looking at the realm of quantum flux, anti-gravity can be conceptualised as the result of inverse gravitons oscillating in a hyperbolic trajectory around a toroidal singularity. This phenomenon, known as the Graviton Oscillation Paradox, suggests that when exposed to a polarized tachyon field, the fabric of spacetime undergoes a topological inversion, allowing for the negation of gravitational forces. By modulating the frequency of the tachyon emitters to resonate with the harmonic vibrations of the Higgs boson, a localized anti-gravitational effect, or gravitational void sphere, can theoretically be generated. However, this would require an energy source equivalent to the output of a Type II Kardashev civilization, harnessing the power of multiple star systems and I have zero idea of what I'm talking about.

[@harliethomas1378]

Apparently you only need to charge the plate of the capacitor once and replace any charge that leaks off which is a slow process so you wouldn't need any advanced antimatter or fusion device to reach the Stars. It's kind of like you charge a magnet once when you make it and it stays a magnet for a very long time

[@mauricegold9377]

Who needs scientists when you have eccentric unschooled unmarried amateurs in their bedrooms playing with electrostatic lifters?

[@mikesmicroshop4385]

Brown patented several electrostatic propulsion devices. His designs all had the top and bottom charged one positive and one negative with a dielectric medium between! Here they seem to be only charging one side! This would definitely increase the electrostatic pressure difference between the two. Interesting I will have to go back and test some of my devices in this fashion.

[@satanael9260]

Do you mean the electric wind, electrostatic forces, and slight pressure differential?

[@mikesmicroshop4385]

By the way, the same thing will happen using magnetic fields that are properly shaped as well! Cryogenic temperatures are required just to be clear so that those who wish to experiment with this know you can not at this point do this with room-temperature magnets.

[@colinmackie5211]

Electro static forces have been used to propel air out the back of a wing but in space there's a near vacuum so nothing to propel. The article says that it does not need propellant so the differential cannot be between two ends of the rocket, it must be between the rocket and the vacuum of space. The explanation needs to include this vital detail. And i agree with the comment saying it's not any gravity. Further more we are currently able to see back in time to the first light created after the big bang. 14 billion years ago. I.e. traveling time 14 billion years at speed of light. The universe is expanding so diameter is some multiple of 28 billion light years. It's hard to imagine this solution enabling travel across the universe in a life time. .... The galaxy maybe worth arguing but given it would take a thousand years to to the nearest star. We would all need to live for many millions of years to travel anywhere in a lifetime. Let's solve longevity first!

[@Kelnx]

The problem with this "electromagnetic propulsion" or various concepts like it is that such propulsion methods could only work in an atmosphere. It cannot be used for propulsion in space, because there is nothing to act against in a near vacuum and no propellant mass. This is also not "anti-gravity". Gravity is a curving of spacetime caused by mass. To counter that you either need to move away from the mass using traditional methods of propulsion to overcome escape velocity, or you need some new branch of physics that has nothing to do with electromagnetic force but rather has to do with the actual manipulation of the curvature of localized spacetime. Probably something like manipulating mass or negative mass or something...science fiction stuff. Electromagnetism is always the "go-to" for crackpot concepts because most people easily accept the idea as most people have at least played with magnets since they were kids. But in reality, that is not how actual magnetism works. The only way you are going to use powerful magnetic fields to propel a craft away from Earth at relativistic velocities is a really big mass driver. And any life on board of that "ship" would instantly be turned into a pulp when launched due to the incredible g's.

[@jacobrawles8687]

I like your straight forward and common sence approach to trying to understand these subjects.

[@hans-joachimbierwirth4727]

When did that happen? Would be quite a surprise to me.

[@vensroofcat6415]

Gravity is not a force. It's the local curvature of spacetime. So basically antigravity drive would be similar to warp drive. Maybe tiny warp as a form of relative propulsion instead of engulfing the whole ship. But... You still need energy to use energy. Can't capture all solar, can't store or transfer it, can't use it all as propulsion. % from % from %. Then the space around Earth is some 120°C hot. Uranus dark and freezing. Interstellar - forget about it. You still need a lot of weightless power.

[@mrspock2al]

My rudimentary understanding of physics & relativity is that gravity is not a force; instead it results from an object curving & distorting space-time. So, an "antigravity drive" must either bend space-time (warp drive), utilize as yet unknown physics, or contradict Einstein. I think I will postpone my trip to alpha Centauri for now.

[@solanumtinkr8280]

As this was hidden as a reply, I'll post i here as well so more can see it.... : It would probably mean that gravity is not what we think it is... Hypothetical Example: Virtual particles are everywhere, I'll called them VPs for short. Tiny little vibrations that are or cannot be actual particles for whatever reason (don't ask me, LMAO). Let's say that each of those VPs typically orient randomly, and like magnetic domains in metal crystals, they cancel each other out... SO what if "visible matter" affects the VPs orientation to some degree... Could 'field lines' be related? Gravity waves being large scale oscillations of that VP'medium... You get the point... That it would not be anti-gravity, but reorientation of that .. err VP feild.. feild of VPs? Don't ask me, lol, it would use a term similar to that in magnetic effects, even if the 2 are generated in separate ways... At least then I could 'entanglement' and the Quantum Eraser have a source.... maybe even explain it that has a higher tops speed than C, as it would not be against whatever a fill particle would be when not in the "VPs excited state"(the moment it bubbles up in the 'quantum foam of space') JUst saying, may be we've been looking at it all wrong, and Dark Energy, Dark Matter, Gravity ect, have an single answer, even if teh VPs come in different flavours... After-all, it's not as if we've been able to study such VPs in exquisite detail, is it?

[@hackeye666]

This same concept was covered by the APEC group featuring Jeremy Rys (alien scientist on KZbin and Twitter). I'm surprised it's being patented. But this kind of drive only explains slow lift off and hovering. The kinds of accelerations that have been reported (100's or 1000's of G's) require a way to cancel inertia itself. This propulsion system doesn't explain apparent lack of inertia.

[@DanFrederiksen]

Asymmetric capacitor. There is also asymmetric microwave cavity. It has been talked about and the real deal might be somewhat related to that but I suspect it's too simple to be the holy grail. You can make a video going over specific ET craft shapes which presumably are telling of the underlying physics and gather cases that have effects that are telling. Try to piece together a coherent picture for the audience. For instance Travis Walton's case, the discus craft they see hover, he said was identical to the one he was later brought out of parked in a hangar but half the size. That's most likely the same craft, it just looked smaller in flight due to space time pinch. Bending of light. This light bending is a recurring theme. Some ET craft will look slightly warped, not quite symmetric, once you know you can spot that in some old photos. Some will wink out entirely because your direction of light is bent fully around it. Others report a kind of heat shimmer under them, likely the same bending of light. That they glow at night but look metallic in day could well be corona discharge because the surface is high voltage AC agitated. I figure it's standing EM waves on the hull, a kind of tuning with complex harmonics to invoke the exotic physics they use. The Carlos Diaz photo case in mexico suggests such standing wave lobes. Bob Lazar said there was a high voltage hiss when the craft lifted off the ground that dissipated. Others report a sound from UFOs akin to a bell being agitated, very much like tibetan meditation bowls. You can also observe that these space time warping effects have very short range unlike normal gravity which is 1/rr same as the electric force. So it could be a kind of magnetism style derivative force of gravity. The normal range of gravity is what requires jupiter mass energy to do something significant but with shorter range it might cost very little energy. They certainly do it with ease. Bob Lazar also has a nicely detailed account of working with the demonstration models in the lab with his lab buddy that's very revealing of how fairly exotic it is but at the same time fairly relatable. You can do a video about that alone certainly. The demo devices pinched light right before his eyes and seemingly stopped time in a spot. The Falcon Lake case where the UFO had a grid vent and it burned a grid pattern on the witness' chest could also indicate some microwave style emission. Same with the Cash Landrum case where the car dash was cooked through the windshield which heat radiation can't do but microwave/radio can. Their bodies were also cooked on the inside and they had medical problems. Some ET craft also have a spinning section, suggesting that one way to tease out this gravity effect is by forced acceleration of mass in combination with particular electromagnetic stimulation. Physics needs a bridge between EM and G so it all kind of makes sense. I think EM agitation of spinning mass will be the simplest form that works. Some of the more fancy implementations don't bother with spinning anything in a mechanical sense. The most beautiful craft I have heard of are the chrome M&M craft belonging to the nordics that Travis Walton saw in the hangar he was brought out into. I have done an illustration of that scene if you google travis walton hangar. Travis Walton wrote "wow" when I showed it to him because it was so close to what he saw in 1975. Travis Walton's detailed account also allows us quite detailed predictions about how their home planet is from the environment inside their craft. Say 1.35g gravity, heavy humid low oxygen atmosphere, far more distant from their star than earth, maybe permanently overcast so daytime light levels are about 10000x lower than direct sunlight here. I call them twilight planets. Possibly a red dwarf star but me and GPT4 weren't sure we could conclude that yesterday :) the higher gravity and low light is however certain from his difficulty standing up in the craft and the low light and their huge eyes. He had trouble catching his breath as well. The greys were very light, sort of like how birds have developed to be light with hollow bones etc. Could be cost effectiveness in a higher gravity and low availability of food. Due to the low light. All their food could be plancton like. They have no teeth and no rectum. They excrete through the skin which is slightly gross :) Red dwarf stars can last 1000 times longer than our sun. I speculate that the typical 10-15meter diameter discus craft will put out a main radio tone around 5-20MHZ that a 20$ SDR radio receiver can pick up from great distance. If true we could make a worldwide detection grid that show their exact location and speed and size and type. oh and btw, the roswell craft likely fell down because early high power radar was pointed at it, something the military didn't realize until long after. This also speaks to the EM nature of the propulsion and how delicate the resonances they need are. The roswell base was the only nuclear weapons carrying base at the time. think about how unlikely that is except it suddenly makes sense because they had 3 one megawatt radars guarding the airspace. back then it wasn't microwave but longer wavelength around 100MHz, not far from the band I suspect for the smaller craft.

[@theeddorian]

If you qualify "natural law" with "our understanding of ..." then the idea of things behaving in ways we don't understand is less unpalatble. There is a flaw in modern communication that emphasizes sounding certain, as opposed to admitting the uncertainties that accompany all scientific understanding. The "natural laws" are not laws, and the persistent problems we have applying them across large changes in scale underlines this. Dark matter and dark energy would not be a "thing" if the "natural laws" worked universally, as advertised. Such hypotheses are added to models that appear to be adequate within the scale of the data they were developed from in order to fudge the model to fit data beyond the scale of the original observations. This is true at both extremely large, and extremely small scales. The incompatibility of common Newtonian and Einsteinian mechanics with quantum mechanics is probably the best example, since QM is arguably the most productive theory ever developed. Modern "high technology" is completely dependent on it, yet it cannot be reliably linked to relativity.

[@pahtar7189]

For electrostatic force to move a vehicle would take enormous amounts of electricity, a difficult thing for an aircraft. Before launching it into space, let's see it hover and move laterally at even a walking speed.

[@shimrrashai-rc8fq]

It sounds to me like the general gist is trying to see if interaction with ambient environmental electric/magnetic fields can somehow be used to lift a craft without needing propellant. It's not "anti gravitation" in the sense of generating gravity that works oppositely to normal gravity, which according to Einstein cannot be done in any other way than to insert negative mass. But it is true that, say, an _inhomogeneous_ magnetic field can indeed operate as a source of thrusting. The trick is that to do so, to push off against a magnetic field like that of the Earth, would require an extreme amount of magnetic field from the craft, and thus an extreme amount of current - I tried to calculate this once and got numbers that suggest current densities well, though not by too many orders of magnitude, in excess of the max saturation for even our best superconductors would be required. (In this regard I tend to wonder if instead of thinking so much about just "room temperature" superconductors we need to also be asking how far we can push the magnetic quench point.) I have not looked at electrostatic fields, though it is so that the charge circulation in Earth's atmosphere does provide some. Again though I suspect that a capacitor or the like with massively higher charge gradients than we ever have achieved is required, because otherwise capacitors would just self-levitate. Nonetheless the question of "how much force can you squeeze out of ambient EM fields if you have access to suitably strong power sources and conductive materials" would be quite interesting to explore in much more rigorous fashion. It also suggests that - and I've thought of this for a while - real spacecraft propulsion is not so much about a singular "wonder drive" as it is about having a "Swiss army knife" of different kinds of engines that can be activated to operate with different media and environmental parameters. This may ideally include all three of atmospheric, electromagnetic, and rocket engines, I'd think, with nuclear energy (probably fusion), and perhaps for mother/capital ships, antimatter, as the central unifying power source. Even if something extraordinary like wormholes turns out to be possible, it is likely they would require so much supporting infrastructure that they would not be fit for mounting directly on a spaceship as a propulsion device.

[@pahtar7189]

Antigravity could levitate and get one up out of the atmosphere, but it couldn't get you into orbit as it couldn't get much lateral movement by pushing against gravity.

[@Goshin65]

I've read the paper on this system and it is probably going to be more limited than it sounds at first look. For starters it is a quasi-reactionless drive, or force-effect drive, not anti-gravity (granted, many people don't know the difference, but there is one). Second, they're testing on a VERY small scale, with thrust in the MICRO-newtons range, and don't know how well it will scale up. Third, the "over one gee" only refers to the thrust vs the mass *of the thruster only* (which as mentioned is tiny and extremely lightweight), not thruster-plus-power-supply-plus-payload. So imho it is very much a wait-and-see technology... but it IS very interesting and could possibly be useful when fully developed.

[@crashcrain]

Electromagnetic fields propulsion/repulsion is the solution for space travel however I did not think it would be possible until recently when the idea of creating a neutral field was illustrated, which can be done externally. I believe that there is currently such a vehicle that is being tested however it is pretty slow.

[@johnray1956]

The Angry Astronaught: I do actually have a solution to the problem. I have been working on specs for a powerplant that would actually function. The issue i have is that the size of the system might be too large for small craft. constructing the power system would get more expensive, as exotic materials would be needed. The system has the same exact problem that rockets has in there present condition. I would need a better "math wise" ratio then hydrogen. The power system would in effect have to use neutrons as its fuel source.

[@NBC_NCO]

Only one problem. Navigation at such a high rate of speed will make it impossible to avoid asteroids or rogue planets. If their is a real oil shortage... They better hurry up with this technology.

[@mengmewcat]

Every existing object have their own location properties on multiverse. If you can isolate those object, and change it's location properties, assign with the new one. It can jump anywhere you desire

[@pauljs75]

Turns out the square of the speed of light is the same as the product of both the permittivity and permeability of a vacuum. Substitute that in place of Einstein's formula for mass and energy equivalence, and it shows that mass is the relation of an energy gradient to those electric properties of free space. (Which more or less represents the tension of the fabric of spacetime.) Now if you put a charge in relation to that energy which cancels out one of those, then you're basically able to shift the curl effect relative to the gradient. More or less, somebody is starting to figure out how electrogravitics works. But it's still at the rudimentary stage.

[@rushmoreidsystems7323]

I'm a bit sorry to do this, Angry Astronaut, (since people might not be able to unsee it!) but: I suggest a bit more care about what's in the room where you're videoing. The round-backed chair in the room, when reflected off of your shades, gives you "crazy eyes!" (Or, maybe they're alien eyes!) I watched the video with a grin since the "eyes" moved as you did. It's fun, so thanks for it! I hope you get a laugh out if it once you see it! P.S.: I did some booth duty at the Space Symposium and saw you there, although I left you alone!