UG Krishnamurti - Thought Destroys LIFE | Mind, Thought, Body, Life

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5 ай бұрын

Here UG Krishnamurti is interviewed Bu Donald Ingram Smith on 7th March 1990. Lets Dive into The Video -
UG Krishnamurti explaining about evaluation of human being, self consciousness, Totality of Life, Physical Body Contains the Whole human Being then Mind Conquers the Life. Here UG clears what what is the life and living, Body and mind are separate from activity of mind. UG Says, Boy is not interested in Happiness, Body does not know about pleasure. Demand to Change in our self is the Cultural input provided by the Society. According to UG Krishnamurti Consciousness of the body does not exists. There is no such thing as Consciousness at All !
Uppaluri Gopala Krishnamurti, famous around the world as simply U. G. Krishnamurti, gave the world a unique perspective about Enlightenment.
According to UG Krishnamurti, there is no such thing as philosophical enlightenment.
There are no philosophical questions to be asked and no intellectual answers to be given to those questions.
This enlightenment-negating thinker was born in India, on July 9, 1918.
UG Krishnamurti Says the concept of seeking the ultimate TRUTH is absurd, as he thinks there is nothing to seek. Nature will provide individuals with the solutions of all their problems; one just needs to embrace it in its entirety.
Many people also tried to regard him amongst the ‘enlightened ones’, but he insisted that he simply exists in what he called the ‘natural state’.
For him, the puzzling notions and ideas that people involve themselves into in the name of enlightenment are the only hindrance between them and being enlightened-if there is such a thing.
For U.G. Krishnamurti, the need to constantly change, to evolve, is not just impossible, but also a futile exercise. UG emphasized on the body and the soul being perfect the way they are.
To try to alter bodily actions is considered by him as a breach in the purity, peace and harmony of the body.
His concept of the mind and the psyche is only one of a kind. He believed that the psyche, or the mind, does not exist as a being, but rather it is a demand of the self to bring about a change in this world, or in itself. Self-consciousness for Krishnamurthy is a fascist force, one which only emphasizes on its own importance.
According to U. G.Krishnamurti, the business of GURUS and spiritual healers is booming because of people who are in search of answers to their pseudo questions of enlightenment and salvation.
The quest for these answers is instilled into them through an artificially created cultural environment.
The culture demands from people to conform while at the same time it asks them to be unique and special in their own way, infusing in people a constant need for so-called enlightenment which would bring out their exclusive character.
The gurus take advantage of this situation and promise of a way towards salvation, a journey by the end of which the puzzled individual will find answers to all his spiritual questions, leading him to the ultimate truth.
For him, the goal of enlightenment is unapproachable, and self realization is futile, because there are no goals and there is nothing to discover in the self. Whatever is happening in the world is just happening; there are no divine interventions and spiritual, mysterious connections behind the happenings of the world.
He liked to call himself ‘unrational’, as he totally negated the idea of employing rationality to answer questions of enlightenment.
He believed that humans are too busy trying to find the meaning behind things when there is none to be found. With his talks and words, he tried to wipe off from the minds of his followers previous concepts and cherished truths of history and society. He asked them to start anew, forgetting what has been taught to them all their lives.
UG denied the existence of spirituality in India, or of communism in Russia, or liberty in America. Instead, he asked his fellows to relate nothing to nowhere.
U.G. Krishnamurti died on March 22, 2007. All his life he worked towards completely erasing of the idea of questioning ones’ self, so that nothing stays behind but a smoothly operational biological mechanism, working with all its natural harmony and balance.
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@BharataWinghamLaughaYoga
@BharataWinghamLaughaYoga 5 ай бұрын
UG gives the entire secret/mystery away. Life as we know it is a complete Mystery. The only complete certainty we can have is, "I don't know." Thank you for sharing this. 🙏😉
@BPSchauhan
@BPSchauhan 5 ай бұрын
I do not know is the Honest Reply !
@prometheus1111111
@prometheus1111111 5 ай бұрын
Its also the mystical path of nihilism. Here in the west not everyone believes they cannot know or else you could not ever have the possibility of flying your 90lb breatharian body across the ocean on a jet to give such mystical bullshit to gullible hippies. Even most westerners didnt think flight was possible before it was owing to thier religious degradation. Mysticism closes the door to paths that might otherwise lead somewhere. for example Alchemy demonstrates definite outcomes wheras scientism is not alchemy.
@prometheus1111111
@prometheus1111111 5 ай бұрын
Furthermore I should say that alchemy knows to begin on a foundation. It must be prepared first, then many steps if followed sequentially, may lead to outcomes formerly deemed impossible or magical. The confusion stems from the fact that certain "miracles" are released to a public who will only then be further controlled by them, while in school only learn of scientism. We all know the hoi polloi are cultivated only to be trained monkeys. The foundation is a conscious agency, and for the masses that is either absent or so buried by the false mind of programmed thought, it cannot develop much less lead the organism. So UG is correct but disingeniously does not qualify how he is correct. This default case in general society does not prove a conscious agency does not exist. Ask by what power of what conscious designer brought the jet engine, the computer, iphone etc? not one monkey you know can build one. But all have them but what the monkey has completely has him. Also by design, a proof of a conscious designer if you will. These gurus always steer clear of the hidden hand also because these are higher caste indians greenlit to gaslight.
@mental_vacation
@mental_vacation 3 ай бұрын
Actually you can be completely certain that if you raise the temperature of water to boiling point you will create steam. It's not profound to say I don't know.
@sooparticular
@sooparticular 3 ай бұрын
this is not life....this is boiling water:)@@mental_vacation
@venusnewhall6401
@venusnewhall6401 5 ай бұрын
I have arrived to this understanding late last year. The mind plays tricks like a magician and it’s not what you think. It is impossible to explain by words. It could only be experience by oneself.
@BPSchauhan
@BPSchauhan 5 ай бұрын
it is very satisfactory to listen to UG and understand all accumulated Garbage ! for me it is 35 years wrong input in my mind !
@drjee
@drjee 3 ай бұрын
Am an ardent admirer of UG. Always delighted to listen to him.
@BPSchauhan
@BPSchauhan 3 ай бұрын
same with me ! I try to bring on KZbin with Clear Audio !
@lifechoices6643
@lifechoices6643 17 күн бұрын
One of the solutions i have devised to live with such insights is to get in touch with anger at not knowing anything and to express it aptly.
@waedjradi
@waedjradi 5 ай бұрын
"There is NO point in defining life." -U.G.
@BPSchauhan
@BPSchauhan 5 ай бұрын
Right said ! Life itself is definition !
@waedjradi
@waedjradi 5 ай бұрын
@@BPSchauhan🤓🫵
@lifechoices6643
@lifechoices6643 17 күн бұрын
The Sufis were in touch with reality.They knew what U.G knew and yet related to divine mystery
@vladn6031
@vladn6031 5 ай бұрын
Mind is only a problem when it's disconnected from its Nature. Thought has no power to destroy life; it may only seem that way when you believe it. When you don't believe it, it's harmless and innocent.
@michaeldelisieux5252
@michaeldelisieux5252 5 ай бұрын
Many thanks for sharing.
@TheNativoamericano
@TheNativoamericano 2 ай бұрын
love this man
@ashutoshdwivedi4840
@ashutoshdwivedi4840 5 ай бұрын
I listened to osho,jk and finally ug.i got clarity by ug.thanks for uploading
@BPSchauhan
@BPSchauhan 5 ай бұрын
same is with me ! UG has capacity to clear the concepts in minimum words !
@OfCourseICan
@OfCourseICan 4 ай бұрын
I agree with UG to a certain degree: however; when the mind/ brain focuses on certain issues, whether they be negative or positive the body or psyche interprets these conditions and emits them to yourself and others. So you have a choice of what to dwell on.
@ashvoj
@ashvoj 5 ай бұрын
Hi Sir. Thank you for the upload. I just noticed some UG videos on your channel are missing. Do you know why they were deleted? Those were some of the greatest UG videos!
@BPSchauhan
@BPSchauhan 5 ай бұрын
YES ! i have to delete them because my channel was demonetized due to reused content. I teach Maths for iit jee also !
@ashvoj
@ashvoj 5 ай бұрын
​@@BPSchauhanunfortunately my reply to you from yesterday was deleted by KZbin so I'm replying to you again. I was saying that it's a shame that your videos were removed because you had put so much effort into uploading those amazing videos which were some of the best content on UG in my opinion. Perhaps you may want to upload them on a different platform such as R-u-m-b-l-e. Hope to see those deleted videos uploaded again. Thanks ever so much!
@BadassAkshay007
@BadassAkshay007 4 ай бұрын
​@@ashvoj can you give name of those missing videos or links?
@SDFNI3894YR
@SDFNI3894YR Ай бұрын
what a englees by chauhan ji. accent gazab hai bhaisaahab ki.
@BPSchauhan
@BPSchauhan Ай бұрын
Check spelling of English
@alex_om
@alex_om 5 ай бұрын
Nice*
@Artezia
@Artezia 2 ай бұрын
So, everything is just a shell game. Doesn’t matter who started,, we play and like games anyway. I see no way of turning the tide from culture back to nature, with the help of technology only a real disaster can change anything.
@BPSchauhan
@BPSchauhan 2 ай бұрын
Exactly ! Your Understanding is Far Better than Indians here ! I see clear difference !
@Misha0013
@Misha0013 Ай бұрын
why the near dead pictures ?
@BPSchauhan
@BPSchauhan Ай бұрын
Do not see them, Check how you are touching live wire (UG)
@munm645
@munm645 5 ай бұрын
Its because of thinking only u are maths teacher
@BPSchauhan
@BPSchauhan 5 ай бұрын
you have not listened to the video !
@prometheus1111111
@prometheus1111111 5 ай бұрын
Also to say there is no consciousness at all fails to demonstrate how this can instead be defined as identification with a synthetic mind. Even to survive we can and must be able to detect a certain degree of sensation of our body. Also certain correspondence of a basic level can be communicated productively in thought by languaged directed by a "will". It is a extremely rudimentary consciousness and beyond that point is not developed or calibrated. There is no I to any meaningful degree just like UG says. Everything can be automated with no need of consciousness and this is basically the default for the masses. However this small false I may be the basis for more. You must want become yourself, risk all, do all, to establish or rescue the foundation, of your actual consciousbess. When you wake to this you will wonder why such a manacle of thought should exist but yet no such question or attempt to answer this comes from UG. more mystical Its left to remain a mystery. but that is not the warriors way.
@BPSchauhan
@BPSchauhan 5 ай бұрын
I may say that the General Way of using the word Consciousness is different what is used in our small actions or automatically ! Biologically it is very much significant but when it comes to mystery - it takes Wrong Shape ! Any way , I like your sharing as people in india do not talk like this !
@prometheus1111111
@prometheus1111111 5 ай бұрын
UG and Nietzsche actually opened an important door few have dared to go through. muchless suspect. If you're interested in the specific topic a similar conclusion was drawn by Nietzsche in the following YT vid : NIETZSCHE on the Nature of Consciousness - Deep Dive: “The Genius of the Species” (The Gay Science ) cheers
@prometheus1111111
@prometheus1111111 4 ай бұрын
The basic problem is that we are using a synthetic consciousness in attempt to solve a real problem. You cannot use a false mind to enter into a real mind and that is the unfortunate situation humanity is in. Where U. G goes a bit off the mark is in suggesting or implying there's no real mind which is disingenuous. But there must be something real or Why else would we make an attempt to convey truth in language even if it were futile? The question is how do we get to the real from the unreal mind hijacked by associative thought? . We should already realize that this mind and its thoughts are fully programmed. This does not preclude real thoughts from having been initiated from our essence or from spirit. It is a matter of something you must try for yourself, but Gurdjieff at least showed another way to a real consciousness, and thus the real mind is not merely externally conditioned. He discovered conditions where one can bypass the false mind while at the same time energizing the real mind. If however it is nolonger possible to reach such a possibility there can be no sense to any of this discussion or even life itself IF it is totally irravokably hijacked by this false synthetic mode of consciousness. U. G. bypasses this possibility wheteas Nietzsche opened the door but never showed what it would mean to walk through
@prometheus1111111
@prometheus1111111 4 ай бұрын
in response to much of what you said, consider that our ontology and epistemology is a byproduct of being identified with the false mind. What can we say that we truly know? This was Nietzsches point, we have no organ for truth which is true until we can find where we actually begin apart from this mind based on language.. The only hope is to have a way to identify what is real in our original consciousness, something that exists even now even if muted, or hidden. Still the root of what we are as a spirit as an essence can become a gathered will to know truth. if our attention can be freed from our ordinary state. A fee attention means the way to energize this original consciousness. Then we can come to real knowledge. We can be identified with our original consciousness and not lose ourselves even as we take command of the language assuming it remains possible at all. It is byond reckoning in this state but rather than taking command of language thought consciousness really a full teturn to our consciousness precludes any need for language. If others are also brought to the same pristime state. Starting to the door is the real problem because this mind never looks for the door or always imagined it found the door. the paradox is starting from the false mind because everything that you do, thst you think you know, is from an ontological and epistemological Mirage, it is the last thing that can be trusted.
@wthomas5697
@wthomas5697 5 ай бұрын
This is ridiculous. Human beings evolved to think. It's what we're designed to do. There's a reason Buddha himself referred to "right thinking" and "right understanding". Thought does not destroy life.
@BPSchauhan
@BPSchauhan 5 ай бұрын
Right ! But when human mind becomes slave of World mind then problem starts- like imaginary words which grabbed the society - soul, supreme soul, enlightenment, reincarnation, GOD, Guru etc
@wthomas5697
@wthomas5697 5 ай бұрын
Well, Buddha specified "right" in the term "right thinking" for a reason. Thought is a fear generated phenomenon. Accurate thinking and the consequent understanding lead to cessation of fear. That's it's function. All those items you mentioned are not examples of "right thinking". They're more in the wishful thinking category. @@BPSchauhan
@aapbeete9761
@aapbeete9761 5 ай бұрын
UG made it clear that you will have to think when you want something. Better to keep your needs to minimum and important ones to let the creativity happen. Creativity only happens via empty mind.
@wthomas5697
@wthomas5697 5 ай бұрын
If you pay attention you can easily observe that you are not in control of whether you think or not. What do you imagine "creativity" is anyway? @@aapbeete9761
@prakashth
@prakashth 5 ай бұрын
If you watch some of the other videos, UG says thought is a neurological defect in humans. It was passed on through genes. That is not evolution. Nature should have discarded us just like the other 99% species. But through thought we were able to build tools to survive. Like UG says a nuclear bomb is an extension of jaw bone of an animal used by man as a tool to survive.
@waedjradi
@waedjradi 5 ай бұрын
U.G. at 07:00 is yelling "Can someone PLEASE remove this idiotic human away from my feet?!
@BPSchauhan
@BPSchauhan 5 ай бұрын
YES ! UG was really inhuman sometimes !
@waedjradi
@waedjradi 5 ай бұрын
@@BPSchauhanYeah in a funny way lol
@ashasingh6923
@ashasingh6923 4 ай бұрын
😂
@waedjradi
@waedjradi 4 ай бұрын
@@ashasingh6923 8:10 U.G. is saying "You don't mess with me, Buddy! You will get CLOBBERED!!"
@King311___
@King311___ 4 ай бұрын
Sir you are a maths teacher. Why are you following and teaching destructive ideology like UG’s online and to your students?
@BPSchauhan
@BPSchauhan 4 ай бұрын
I do not send notification to students, By Chance i started uploading UG's Video on This channel and it is continue going on !
@King311___
@King311___ 4 ай бұрын
@@BPSchauhan But ug talks rubbish
@BPSchauhan
@BPSchauhan 4 ай бұрын
@@King311___ NO ! its a question of Life- Death ! when you see your death in front of you then you want to understand what kind of life i am living , then search for quality life starts ! ( Do not misunderstand me , its a reply )
@monbeauparfum1452
@monbeauparfum1452 4 ай бұрын
@@King311___don’t you? Are we not living in a world where we can explore any point of view or only yours is truth?
@King311___
@King311___ 4 ай бұрын
@@redop-zb8ep you need a psychiatrist bro 🤡
@alex_om
@alex_om 4 күн бұрын
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