UGREEN 160W Nexode PRO review and test

[@cyanea-]

i didnt know i had to find a channel specializing in powerbanks and chargers with so much data! you are gold sir.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

haha, I didn't know you needed to find it either. Thanks for watching!

[@ErnestJay88]

agree, before replacing my power bank or 3rd party charger, i watching many of his review first to know which is the best.

[@jesusrojo2018]

Precisely the first Amazon reviews from verified buyers (not vine free-product) complained a lot about this issue, and even for the 100w model. Thank you for reporting the substance of this matter.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Glad the video was useful.

[@nhannguyen2190]

It'd be nice if you could specify what the issue is. I just watched this video yesterday and your comment made sense to me but now I completely forgot what it was 😂

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

@@nhannguyen2190 It overheats.

[@kadajawi2]

​@@AllThingsOnePlace Will it also overheat when the load is lower, say, around 40-100w usually? I'd like something smaller, but this would be in use a lot.

[@leanhnhat8559]

@@kadajawi2 same question as yours, have you bought it yet?

[@EnVideoZone]

It is ridiculously easy to rate this channel. Rich, detailed, objective, succinct. It's simply the best.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I appreciate that!

[@daysleeprx512]

Seemed so promising initially! I was actually tempted to buy one of these but I'm glad I waited on your review.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, on paper it looks amazing. They did make some improvements on the DC side but yeah they neglected the primary function of this device, take AC power and turn it into DC efficiently.

[@andrewcatubig9239]

​@@AllThingsOnePlace Same thoughts. I was about to buy this. So due to the slight issue with the core functionality, what will be your most recommended alternative with better efficiency?

[@jaymedina3142]

I love these charging adapter videos!!! I see so many adapter for sale with high watt numbers for sale on Temu or AliExpress for $20-60 prices. After watching some of your videos, I'm very reluctant to buy any of them. As much for safety concerns as efficiency. I had bought a few usb-A 4 port adapters for under $2 on Temu. They weighed nothing, and got SUPER hot barely charging even 1 device. So now they are relegated to acting as a power supply for usb led night lights. That experience is actually how I found your channel. Keep up the great work!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I bought some real cheap adapters and popped them open. I did a video on that a while back. They were pretty bad not quite as bad as what you are describing, I think they mostly worked. There's no shortage of junk out there though. I'd bet some of the mid-priced adapters on Ali are not bad though, but I haven't gone down that path yet.

[@Fleshlight_Reviewer]

They're great at burning your house down

[@marcofeature]

Thank you for sharing another top-notch, impartial review video!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks for supporting the channel!

[@andrewosullivan8992]

Thanks for a great review! I got all the information on this item I could have ever wanted, and more that I couldn't find anywhere else on the internet. Straight to the point and no-nonsense (except infinite nonsense from the ganinfinity charger) Nice work. Subscribed.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks for watching! Yeah, I try to have a little fun but also get the information out there.

[@techliso]

Interested in the Ugreen 100W charger from this new line and wondering if it has similar issues. Anyway, thanks for the excellently executed testing.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I probably won't touch it for a long time based on the results of this one.

[@techliso]

@@AllThingsOnePlace Yeah, I see users' comments about the 100W version , and it seems to have these issues as well.

[@AR9ify]

That is why you always buy a higher rated charger than what you intend to use. Not 65w if it is going to be 65w constant draw.

[@Roseirful]

I purchased a Baseus 160w at 56 euros and it was also warm at 100W peak. It probably worked on the Zenbook because it charged at fast rate (the included charger is 100w) and sustained heavy load without complaining. Hard to know if it was really the case but it seemed to. No issue with Steam Deck (docked or not) etc. too.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Nice, thanks for the update!

[@fullsleevetats]

Thanks for the review. While it's a much heavier device, I prefer the Nexode 300W PSU over the 160W, based on your testing results here and with the 300W, the former is the better (but more expensive, and much heavier) device. Not exactly a travel adapter, but a powerhouse.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, the 300W is in a different class.

[@Ray_Dar]

Thanks for the detailed information. It's appreciated, as always. When you have the chance, I would like to see a review of the CUKTECH 20 battery bank. The teardown shows that it has a big heat sink, so it might be able to handle a lengthy high wattage discharge, but there doesn't seem to be any ventilation path (so maybe not). Also, one reviewer seemed to state that it doesn't renegotiate, which is quite rare for battery banks and would be great for those using it as an off-grid power supply. One could, for example, plug in a phone without worrying about whether the off-grid router being powered by the battery will reset (at best) or even power-down completely.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks for the heads up! Yeah, I have either that or a very similar one here to check out. I'd expect similar feature sets.

[@jeffenad5412]

Thanks for the review. By the way, I bought the Baseus 24000mAh 140W powerbank. I would say it has good thermal and support Samsung 45W compared to UGREEN 25000mAh 145W, which it would get hot and it will not support Samsung fast charging 25W and 45W.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I have that power bank to review as well.

[@winchester9432]

This is a super informative video. I enjoyed watching it watching thoroughly, and learned quite a bit in the process. For my purposes this charger should satisfy me just fine. Can you produce a video showing the differences in leaving a charger plugged in without the cables attached, as apposed to leaving the cables attached and plugged in, but not charging? Thanks a ton for this video.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I have a couple shorts on that somewhere in the mess of this channel. Specifically apple cables. I do plan to do a video on the general application at some point but haven't organized enough yet.

[@elshid6046]

Concerning the TUV: It's actually TÜV, with the Ü. It's like a mix of U and E. It makes the sound of the close front rounded vowel (See Wikipedia for more). TÜV stands for "Technischer Überwachungs-Verein", meaning Technical Inspection Association. It was founded in the 19th century to conduct safety tests for steam engines and nowerdays tests everything. They are also officially responsible for the driver's license. They are a private association, though.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, there are two companies that do the safety listings with that marking that I've found. TUV SUD (both with the double dotted U), more common from what I have seen often pronounced 'TOOV SOOD' and TUV Rhineland.

[@elshid6046]

@@AllThingsOnePlace There is also TÜV Nord (TÜV North), TÜV Thüringen and TÜV Saarland and TÜV Austria. There is also TÜV Indien, which is part of TÜV Nord and there is TÜVtürk, which is part of TÜV Süd (TÜV South). They are all at least partially owned by the Technischen Überwachungs-Verein e. V (The Technical Inspection Association Inc. (which is similar to e.V., though there are legal differences)). There is a special law for the TÜV (the TÜV convention) that makes them officially responsible for inspections. Concerning the pronounciation: It is similar to the U in Turkey / Türkiye.

[@johnvillalovos]

Thanks. Any plans to review some car chargers? I think that might be interesting too.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yes.

[@ivanluhi]

Another great review. Waiting on the review for the slim version!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks!

[@zarcreations-1]

I do enjoy this Ugreen charger very much you are reviewing, thank you for replying to my other question about it. And thank you for doing an entire videos worth of content just reviewing it alone. It seems to work well, still waiting for my 'Power Z' to arrive on the 18th, yes not quite the accurate gadgetry you have at your disposal lol, but will work for me and help weed out 2.0 cables from data transfer etc. What can I say I like gadgets🤷‍♂️! I wanna know what I have and see if certain ones are actually Thunderbolt 4, other than the 1m CalDigit Pro. I've seen u use it and do a review of them, I guess just another tool in the engineering box right? 👍 Take care bro

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I am going to do more USB cables soon. I can only really test the basic functionality of them, like continuity, I can test datarate up to a certain point with an actual computer though.

[@oh8866]

Slowly getting there Ugreen! Maybe Nexode Elite will be worth buying ;)

[@fullsleevetats]

No no, it's the Nexode Pro Max! 😂

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yes.

[@MultiAmmar2000]

So even though a charger can supply over 45W, can do 20V 5A, supports PPS, mentions Super Fast Charging 2.0 on its website, that doesn't necessarily mean it can do full Samsung charging like you mention at 3:02 ? I'm so confused :(

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

It drops out early on the current, so, it doesn't meet it's claims in other words. It's close.

[@serkandoganloycol]

Really good review and very informative!! Please keep it up! Oh, and I've also subscribed! 😊

[@Purple__]

I'm SO happy to have found your channel, it's so hard to actually find critical technical reviews of chargers and power banks lol Could you maybe test the 45W USB-C charger that comes with the steam deck? I have two of them plugged in 24/7 and I'm super curious about their efficiency and idle power draw. They use a Chicony W20-045N1B

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks for the suggestion, yeah, I do need to check that one out.

[@kaovilai]

Regarding thermals, this is for pro that travels (like during airport transfers) not necessarily meant to be a desktop charger that output at max all the time. For my "pro" usecase compact high power that may throttle is more desirable than constant but lower power. They could've clarified in their marketing better about expectations but personally I would've still lean towards the current design.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yes, I guess call it what it is, a 100 watt charger.

[@kaovilai]

@@AllThingsOnePlace 100W with 160W Quick Boosts for top up.

[@wonderfaller]

I truly appreciate your work. Thanks so much for opening this channel. Would you mind adding an alternative better product at the end of each video?. Thanks!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

hmmm it's not a bad idea. At least a mention to whatever my last roundup of recommendations is. YT normally pushed this video as the next watch automagically.

[@Keiuran]

Hopefully the 240W Anker is next so we have some more comparisons for these high wattage chargers

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I think I have that on for late January. It might be early February. I haven't even started that yet.

[@mdr________]

As always, thank you for your thorough review. My apologies, I didn't see you post the THD in this video as you normally do. Is THD going to be continue to be covered or are you leaving out this information going forward? Again, thank you, your videos are very scientific and help to inform my purchasing decisions.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, there is a small clip showing the detailed data at full load on this one but yeah, I am leaving out some of the measured data now. No THD, PF, VA, etc. Simplifying the numbers unless there is something really specific to note. So, with the more simplified numbers this video has the best watch time of any video I've posted in the last year!

[@mdr________]

Thank you @@AllThingsOnePlace

[@shiznoes]

This channel is so severely underrated please dont stop! Also have you seen that Sharp released their own GaN 140w charger? could you please do a video on it?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

ha, thanks for watching. Another one for the list. It's a long list but I do write them all down.

[@mygisable]

Hi. Thank you for the nice review. My HP laptop requires 150W power. Would it charge it well through USB C ? Thanks.

[@bfdia51]

So i totally forgot to comment this a long time (6 month) but my ugreen 160w charger died. It started making a clicking noise when plugging in and sometimes sparking. It would only charge if physically held in a very specific way in an outlet or it wont charge anything. I had to contact the nearly non existent support but i did get a replacement unit

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

thanks for commenting! Yeah, that sounds like an odd failure point.

[@benlwesso]

Hey AllThingsOnePlace, I've watched a few of your videos and I really enjoyed your format for review. I don't know if you've already answered this question before, but if you had to pick one 140W charger above all else, which one would it be? I've been struggling for weeks to pick one

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

haha, yeah, that's a tough category. There is a lot of the same out there and most of it is not great. The Rocoren 140W is one of many of the same types that I actually use. It's far from what is probably the best charger but for me it has worked as required. It does also get hot. The apple 140W charger is probably the pick if reliability is the goal.

[@benlwesso]

@@AllThingsOnePlace the Rocoren 140W was what I thinking of getting solely from watching your review. I'll probably get it on sale. Thank you very much!

[@y.servet]

thank you for the video. is there any chance for you to test one of those 300 watts ali express chargers?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Not for a while. But eventually sure.

[@TommyThousandFaces]

I'm wondering if power supplies like these that overheat would perform better even at lower loads when an heatsink is put on each of the larger faces. They got close to putting out a great power supply (because that's what they are being able to deliver so much power), better engineering next time hopefully!

[@TheStopwatchGod]

There's only so much you can do with passive cooling in such a small device. Active cooling is required to maintain the small size of the power supply

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, they certainly got the case size down for this power level, the efficiency being a little lower means it's just too many watts to get out of a small sealed box without, as you mention, active cooling.

[@forscience3188]

Great Video! I had some heatsinks lying around, and even with copper heatsinks applied to all the hot spots pulling about 180watts from the wall, it self shutdown at around 27 mins. It might go longer with better cooling, but still, it should ge built in with this kinda pricing.

[@forscience3188]

just some numbers i forgot to throw in. measured with ir on the surface, the top amd bottom and ports maxed at around 72 c and the heatsinked two faces also hit high 60s.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah. It’s just so bad at thermal transfer the inside must still be hitting over 100C. Also, yes, I expect better.

[@albertopalos9093]

Thanks for the info, could you please make a video or a short reel about the Ugreen car charger 30w?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Mmmm yeah. A short on that isn’t a bad idea.

[@ConorV]

The thermal part hurt me 😂 Really appreciate your reviews. My Anker 737 120w charger pooped out on me recently so im right back on your channel figuring out what to buy next.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

That’s too bad on the anker. They’re usually better than others on support so probably worth putting a ticket in. But yeah there’s still no “perfect” device.

[@ConorV]

@@AllThingsOnePlace I put a ticket in an hopefully they send me a new one. I had to come back though because, in the meantime, I bought an Anker 717 140W adapter back in March so I could still be able to charge my laptop and have 28V mode charging. Well, lo and behold, the brick is dead a little over a month later. No drops and no abuse. I just write this as a warning to others that the Anker GaN chargers are not all that reliable (i'm not the only one with this experience either). And for a suggestion to you! I know it's a lot of work but adding a segment on your channel for long term durability testing would greatly help out the community and normal consumers to know that the charger they are buying, while great at beginning of life, won't poop out on them 1 month into ownership with heavy use.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

@@ConorV Yeah, I usually hear about the failures on here too. There are certainly some adapters that are worse than others, the 717 is a bad product, it has some kind of flaw. In the 240W Anker video I spent 3 minutes talking about how it probably won't last long either, it's the least watched or most skipped part of the video.

[@ConorV]

@AllThingsOnePlace i never even saw that video since i was never interested in the desktop adapter but i certainly will go watch it later today! Bummer about Anker. Anyways thanks for all the work you do!

[@DX88]

I just found this Ugreen 160w pro, and also the Ugreen 160w X (non pro but does say X) which both seem to have 100% the same specs, do you know the difference?

[@AminD0]

Im in the same situation! Maybe they fixed the issues?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Not sure.

[@shingetsu10]

Also came here to find out what the difference is. Really bizzare marketing

[@pennyinheaven]

Ugreen is the only brand that would meet price and quality from where I am. I am looking for a charger to replace my chunky Lenovo 100w. I was actually eyeing this one since Anker is expensive while I don’t trust Baseus that much. I guess I need to wait for better ones come out.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I think ugreen really missed the boat on this one. That’s an opinion but the data seems to support that.

[@jeanbrouwers]

I bought the 30w ugreen gan charger and it even had problems charging my base S23 @ 25w..... I bought an anker gan charger and no issues so far.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, for Samsung I'd imaging the 30W charger would hit the current limit in the PD-PPS, power deliver, programmable power supply mode so 25W sounds like the correct limit for that device.

[@karthiksivasiva]

Thank you so much for the video. In your opinion, whats the best 150w(in that class) travel charger?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

The word 'travel' charger often invokes a device with interchangeable plugs or international plugs, but the Anker 747 is kind of the standard for the power level, but it will require an adapter to use it internationally.

[@roviccastillo9087]

Thank you for the very informative video I was looking at this as my next adapter purchase but not I’m not so sure. I was initially looking at the Anker 747 beforehand(also based your recommendation) Would the Anker 747 be the better option or are there other 140w adapters out there that works better?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

The 747 is an interesting device. I like it for it's even power sharing and generally good performance. It lacks the 140W on a single port capability and isn't quite as modern at power negotiation like this UGREEN. I just used the 747 today for two 65W devices and it just worked. This UGREEN can't do that.

[@thinhtran514]

Thank you for your video! Its really helpful. I'm using a Dell Latitude with 130W charger, I'm considering between the Anker A2340 150W and this one. Would you give me a recommendation? Thank you

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I'd use the Dell charger. It's proprietary, the other chargers will not provide the same power level.

[@abghere]

Yes, I have yet come across a GaN charger that didn't get too hot while charging a laptop that takes 65W+.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah they all get hot basically. Price of making it small.

[@quythinhnp]

Thanks for the review and can you take a look at UGREEN Nexode 65w slim?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, it'll be awhile but it is on the list.

[@siberx4]

Very close to being an ideal adapter, too bad about the high-load efficiency. You mention it will shut down after about half an hour at 140W, do you know if the adapter can at least sustain 100W or 120W indefinitely? Pretty annoying at all these manufacturers claiming power outputs that can be sustained indefinitely, _especially_ with power adapters that get plugged into the wall. It's somewhat forgivable with power banks as long as they can fully discharge their battery before shutting down (ie: can't do repeated full charge/discharge cycles at full rate) but a power adapter is plugged into the wall and should be expected to operate forever at the rated load. If I bought an ATX computer power supply rated for 600W, I fully expect it to be able to output _at least_ 600W 24/7 and never shut down, so not sure why it should be any different here.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I'm not sure. I didn't test it at 100W, it will certainly go a lot longer. Probably long enough to charge a laptop at least. 12 watts of heat versus 19 watts of heat. ATX computer supplies have fans, they're usually under rated too, although some play games too, 600 watt max. I've seen that a few times.

[@sashayav5061]

I think its important to note that the Anker GAN charger 120 and 150 cannot provide full 20V, so my PD laptop and I assume many others will not charge with it. The Ugreen at least provides the full 20Vs

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

True. Thanks!

[@Fleshlight_Reviewer]

You should try the ugreen nexode 65w slim charger. I'd imagine itll have heating issues

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, it's here.

[@liamx102]

Not sure about difference of region but coming from the UK this product has mostly 5 star reviews with no complaint about overheating or any problems what so ever which makes me feel conflicted

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

It depends on how you use it. If you buy this to charge a low power laptop, a phone, and a watch, I bet it will do the business. Total watts still under 100. The efficiency is hidden from the user's knowledge so if it works it must be good.

[@devilfruit00]

@AllThingsOnePlace. Thanks for the comprehensive review. Do you think I should buy this 165W or the 140W from UGREEN or wait for another charger in the future?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

If you don't need anything now, I'd wait. If you need a charger the 140W Ugreen is a better choice over this one in my opinion.

[@devilfruit00]

​​@@AllThingsOnePlaceThanks for your reply. Yeah, right now, I don't have any need for the pd 3.1 protocol but currently using an old 65w baseus charger that does not support samsung 45w (I have s20 ultra and a laptop that supports pd charge). Is the 140w have better thermal than the 160w? Planning to buy the 140w cause it will be on sale for around RM309 (65 usd).

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

@@devilfruit00 I would expect that 140W unit to run a little cooler as the efficiency is higher.

[@devilfruit00]

​@@AllThingsOnePlaceAlright. Thanks again for your fast response. Thank you for the amazing videos. Keep it up.

[@devilfruit00]

@@AllThingsOnePlace Sorry to ask you again. Do you have any other charger that you recommend other than UGREEN 140W? (Around the same price). Thank you.

[@Kita_harus_Teliti_2024]

Hi bro .. Which charger brand and watt is the best for ASUS Zenbook Duo 14 Oled ? I need to replace the original from asus. Too big Big thanks

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I think you are stuck with what you've got if you want the performance. There's a few reasons performance laptops still come with big bricks.

[@Ender_Wiggin]

Man i really need some 240 watt adapters to come out. How am i going to power the GPU on my framework 16. Keep up the great videos! I just got the redmagic dao 150w. I like the screen and the clear case a lot. I i still want my DC barrel jack. It is just to versatile

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

haha, yeah, USB C has it's limitations and now with regulations of everyone must use this. The highest wattage single port announced device I've seen is the 180W framework still. I need to figure out how to get one of those.

[@defylifeadventure]

Was hoping this one would fair better. Having binged watched about 20 of your videos in a row, what's the go to now in the 100w range with 3 USB-C ports for charging a MacBook Air, Gopro and iPhone while travelling in 110-120v and 230v countries?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I'm still looking. The Anker Prime 100W should be plenty for those items though. The gopro will only use 5V anyway so USB A port that. That and a travel adapter.

[@amirulizzat2114]

Was expecting a comparision with baseus 160w but oh well

[@adrianaguero9631]

yo también esperaba lo mismo veo que es llamativo el BASEUS

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I've been having issues getting newer Baseus adapters in... if it's slightly difficult they get bumped down the list.

[@LawrenceLorant]

What device are you using to get those thermal readings and images? I could use something like that. Actually do you have a write up on all of your tooling? I find this stuff pretty interesting

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Haha, yeah there's lots of bits, someone else asked me to review each piece of test equipment. For the thermal camera, they don't make that model anymore. It is a uni-T thermal camera. The software is very simple but it lets you get the temperature of every pixel. I usually just grab the images from the microSD card though.

[@Hexpol.]

I have watched your videos about GaN charger but i still didn't understand as of today what is the best choice, specially for me that i travel alot so a 100-200w charger with multiple adapters or a c7 connection would be ideal. any suggestions off amazon without a budget limit? i have noticed the volta giga 200w but is not reviewed and therefore i do not know the quality.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

answered in other thread.

[@Powertix]

Hi, I've been binge watching your videos for a while now but some things I still can't wrap my head around. What is the difference between Efficiency and Power Factor? Will a low PF make the charger produce more heat when active? I'm currently looking for a 65W wall charger for my steam deck and from watching your videos, it seems none are great but I still kinda don't understand why? Sorry for the amount of questions. I'm just really confused and curious.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Hello, Thanks for the question, here is a really long answer that is far from complete but at least hopefully helps move in the direction of understanding. Also note, I specifically am dropping mention of PFC and other AC metrics which you can decide are important after reading through my unrealistically long return on your comment, ha. I should've just made a video, although my confidence is high that it wouldn't get any views and would be looked at as fear mongering or too extreme. More current creates more heat, but between the two types of power supplies considered different components feel the stress. TLDR, electricity is cheap so the monetary benefit is considered not enough to matter. And now, lets go for a ride down the rabbit hole. Of course everything is looked at small picture, this one device doesn't matter but you can pretty easily have a lot of these plugged in around your house in various forms, lightbulbs to microwaves, tv and set top box, etc. Further work will show that you can't simply add the losses from one device to another, it is a square function so the losses suddenly go up faster than expected, the sum of current has to be calculated to find real power losses, which you do pay for, and that impact is quite significant but again often looked at as negligible due to cost of electricity. In a non-PFC (power factor corrected) supply the bridge rectifier and primary capacitors do more work and have to be larger. In a PFC supply, you add three additional significant power consuming components. Typically an inductor, a mosfet, and a diode but these components reduce the stress on the bridge rectifier and then require a smaller primary capacitor for the same power level. There is a crossover point where PFC versus non PFC matters. 65W is borderline. At that point for the extra effort to design a PFC circuit in you just make it a 100W charger. 2% efficiency hit is negligible cost wise for one device, by 9 devices it's 6% and it goes up from there, at typical household levels of electricity/devices it can be 10% or more. There's other considerations here too like linear devices consuming power as well, this is a whole separate topic and what some other videos focus on when talking about power factor. There are techniques to eliminate some of the components and change the topologies around but in reality these are stuck in the lab and there isn't an easy drop in chip yet. So, these techniques are reserved for very high end power supplies. Many designs aren't effective at low power levels, so not necessarily better options. The non-linear and non-sinusoidal nature of a switching power supply input stage without PFC creates a lot of harmonics and therefore creates losses in the rest of the system. Those harmonic currents are going to be primarily absorbed by the transformer feeding power to your house so you won't actually pay for that cost, you will pay for the resistance or real component of the additional current required to feed that power adapter though. At 65W this isn't much, a couple percentage points. As power levels increase this gets worse, losses are I^2*R so with the square of current, which is why at higher power levels you see PFC get introduced. It also means you can physically plug in more devices on the same 'circuit' since current is lower, this is an industrial advantage in that you can run smaller gauge wire or less physical circuits in a building to do the same work... So, efficiency is nice to look at, but as PF, power factor, decreases and the real power consumed goes up the actual efficiency also decreases. This doesn't matter on a single device basis, but on a many device basis the change is larger. This is all a little too controversial I guess and requires some more thought to see the effect and nature of these things. There are many reasons why this topic isn't covered anywhere, mostly cost is the excuse used. Good arguments can be made for why it doesn't matter especially if you look at one device and remember I am just one opinion on the topic, so all opinions are valid if they can be defended with data, which they can be and have been. If I add $1 to the cost of the power supply that's $10 to the purchaser, which they'll never make back and therefore the entire market will collapse if we make power supplies better, that's dramatizing the arguments against some of these things, but not far from reality in published documents. I did a quick experiment running a switch mode power supply with no-PFC and one with PFC through a 100 foot extension cord, the non-PFC device uses more real power through the cord because of the higher current but without the cord, measured at the socket, uses less. Again at low power levels the effect is not very dramatic but more watts means more current and square those numbers and the losses get a little wild. I should just make a video on this... I tried a few times and just looking at the small picture it isn't of any value but looking at at the larger picture opens up a level of valid criticism that would likely lead to the video never seeing the light of day. Even this comment is probably going too far. It reveals a scenario that people don't want to see. Which is partially why I'm backing off mentioning them in new videos. So, for your one device, go for whatever is going to work for your device and your needs. I am not the one to say no, I might provide an opinion but it is that, an opinion. Anyway, if you made it all the way through this nonsense let me know if my rantings made any sense, it's all in good fun.

[@Powertix]

@@AllThingsOnePlace Hey man, thanks for the detailed reply. This clearly is not my field of expertise, but I can kinda make sense of it all and get the implications thanks to your explanation.

[@yah5o]

I just came across this review. Nice one BTW. But I was looking for another 160W UGREEN charger. Apparently there is also the UGREEN 160W Nexode X. It is about a third cheaper than the Pro. But I can't find a comparison between the two models. So, does anyone know what's the difference?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

It looks like the newer one is a 140W charger, but they just called it 160W because number doesn't mean anything if you are marketing department.

[@hughmusbekidding]

Do any of these Ugreen "pro" adaptors support Samsung fast charge 2.0? The earlier Ugreen 65w adaptors did not. Also do any support Dell charging standards?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Dell and HP are the only ones I know that do the Dell protocol. The PRO adapters support it but have limited current on PPS so not quite 5 amps but they should be close enough, topped out at 4.8 amps.

[@serkandoganloycol]

Please do the MINIX 165w next

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, too many adapters.

[@murtadha96]

Thanks for the detailed review! Would you say the overheating issue would still be present if charging a MacBook Pro at around 100W plus other devices (i.e. when distributing the load over other ports compared to a single port)? At what point does overheating become an issue, the 140W total load mark? And finally, I'm curious how its 100W sibling would compare. Do you suspect it will have similar issues under 100W full load? (since even though it's smaller, but I don't know how that translates into efficiency because the internals will be similar).

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, it's speculation on how it would translate to the smaller one, but yeah, smaller body, less radiating surface so if same efficiency, same heat transfer, same problem. On the 160W, I only test the highest power level for a sustained load. It's a time to effort thing. We can do some calculations though (rounding done to make it easier), so the 160W power level causes a 60 degree C temperature rise while dissipating 20W, at 100W it will dissipate 10W, this means every watt dissipated causes a 3 degree C temperature rise, so we expect the case to be about 30 degree C above ambient for a 100W load. About 50 degrees in this case, should be fine.

[@westcoast2k8]

I’m new to the channel, any tips for a single port 140w charger? Going to use it to charge a new Anker C200 dc power station, it has the new type C 140W fast charging port. Was looking at the Ugreen but I didn’t like how it gets hot.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I was supposed to get the latest 'top choices' video done today... not gonna happen. But yeah, I offer three options in that video, which hopefully makes it out sometime soon.

[@westcoast2k8]

@ awesome, can’t wait. For now I went with the insignia 140W with the 250W cable included.

[@alx9r]

What a strange choice to use a NEMA 1-15P instead of a C7 jack. Good luck arriving at “Pro” tier cabling with that choice. I think the UGreen CD328 is more “Pro” than this.

[@mokisan]

What's a good pd adapter at 160w range?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Not sure yet.

[@sobebu2z]

You should have a category of products that are under promise but over delivered, I'd bet it would be a very short list...😂😂

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, there are a few, and true, never trust the banner specs.

[@shtan3788]

Hi, I like your channel on reviewing Multi charger adaptors. Can you help to review LDNIO GaN 100W A4809C? Thanks,

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks for the suggestion with model, that helps find the specific one. I have a lot of things on the list but that is on the list now.

[@ameerbarakat3499]

Can you test essager chargers I see this type a lot at a cheap price. I would like to know if it is worth buying. I bought a cable from this company and it was good, but I don't know the rest of the products 😊 thanks

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I did check one of their products. In the EU 30W video. I thought it was okay. I tore it down and there was a clear decrease in quality versus the hama and cellularline I compared it to.

[@phonelip6697]

Can you review the other ugreen nexode pro chargers (45w, 100w)

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I will eventually. I have a lot of backlog items to get through first.

[@ayazahmad9841]

Do comparison of belkin anker and ugreen 65watt adapters

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I will be testing the UGREEN at some point.

[@mostcallmerob]

One of the reviews on Amazon experienced similar temperature issues at full load and they said Ugreen reached out to mention it was a faulty unit. Have you tried exchanging yours? I want to like this charger but the heat issue is concerning.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I didn't see anything that would indicate this is faulty other than it getting hot, the output voltage looked good, the input power also was being consumed properly, no hick-ups or oddities. But there is non-zero chance there is something not quite right with this unit, but if you were betting I'd say this one is fine and they're more like the unit I have. Watts dissipated makes sense for the heat level achieved. It'd have to be every component inside being the worst specified component to make this kind of a difference, so the transformer is made incorrectly, the PFC inductor is wrong, the mosfets have the maximum capacitance and resistance, chances are that would get flagged in op check in the factory and rejected. But humans are involved in all these processes so error is real. Eventually, I will look at the other Nexode Pro's maybe I will get a second one of these if I find a really good sale. TLDR - There's a small chance.

[@Sherpa127]

Recent subscriber, just getting to know all the info. I don't really have any knowledge of this items, but can I connect mi lenovo P52s (65W) to this tip of connector? does it does the same thing as the cable it comes with? can i connect this with mi anker 6 in 1 hub with PD? What one would you recomend? Thanks!!!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

So, depending on device compatibility with USB C and USB C PD then they should work with this charger. You will have to check the individual devices to find out if they support the modes offered by this charger. Often the manufacturers don't list this information publicly so you'd have to contact them to find out, and then you will still have to fight for it.

[@Sherpa127]

Thank you very much!! I'll try some things and see what works

[@aijokker]

Can you test apple charger to compare?For notebooks, may be its crap and we better off with some ugreen or anker chargers

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I've done a lot of apple chargers. All but the 70W, which might just be a blog post instead of a video.

[@aijokker]

@@AllThingsOnePlace thank you. I’ll try to find these videos

[@tomsik01]

Thank you! Do the anker prime and the Ugreen nexode whilst renegotiating super fast also renegotiate when devices are plugged in and one of the device is full without unplugging?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

If they keep the power adapter in a higher voltage mode, when plugging or unplugging they will briefly shift to a lower voltage but unlike other chargers they don't completely shut the port off so the device hopefully won't show a notification like a new charger has been connected.

[@tomsik01]

@@AllThingsOnePlace thank you so much for your response! Would you say the rocoren / voltme 65w charger is safe?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

@@tomsik01 I'd probably lean more on rocoren for safety versus voltme. Voltme doesn't actually have a safety listing, I've taken apart a few of their devices apart though and they look okay but that doesn't replace actual testing and verification that they're made to be safe.

[@D4V1DN]

Did I understand correctly that the power supply doesn't get as hot with 230V alternating current?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

In this case, yes, it as a whole, dissipates less total power and therefore doesn't get as hot.

[@anupkumarbisoyi4664]

Sir shall I take this model or the ugreen 140w PD Nexode model?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I think the 140W is actually better than this one but everyone's needs are a bit different.

[@anupkumarbisoyi4664]

@@AllThingsOnePlace thank you sir.. I ordered this one from Amazon.. Also one more help.. Can you suggest a good car charger from ugreen.. Am asking ugreen because this is available in India.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

@@anupkumarbisoyi4664 The CD130 car charger wasn't bad from UGREEN. It's primarily a phone car charger, not a laptop level device.

[@adriftatlas]

Holy guacamole, a surface temperature of 77C? Pretty sure that can cause burns.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I couldn't hold onto the adapter after that test.

[@ghadeeb]

So what is a better equally powerful alternative with the same footprint?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I guess I don't just consider one metric as the answer... If you just want to look at size, this one is very compact for what it does, so yes it is near if not the best for the on paper specs versus size.

[@MXC19]

6:10 How do you even use 0.1% of 160W which is 0.16W to charge anything? Why don't we use 1% to get: [0%, 1%, 10%, 25%, 50%, 75%, 100%] ?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, it's always been kind of a floating test point. I use the ultra low wattage to represent leaving a low power device plugged in or something like a lightning cable but no device. So, it does have a use case that's surprisingly not rare.

[@shirobuta_]

You should get some elecom products and test them

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks for the suggestion.

[@2DAnimax]

no UK plug top? after seeing end of the video,i am afraid to go for multi port chargers that has rate over 100W. can you recommend good 100W charger without thermal issues? (2* USB-A,2*USB-C) does GaN chargers has this thermal shut down too? or GaN is just another marketing trick?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I think a lot of them have thermal issues. They made them so small there isn't anywhere for the heat to go, even if it's a GaN charger. GaN has real advantages but the way they advertise them is pretty far from the reality.

[@2DAnimax]

@@AllThingsOnePlace so we are paying high price for GaN chargers ,but no significant value than Normal Big chargers?

[@Luigi2381]

It seems hard to find a 140W charger for my 16inch MacBook. What’s a good charger that actually meets the 140W claim?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, it's a tough category. A lot of the chargers cross a barrier of being unreliable in the long term because they try to keep them really compact still so they can't deal with heat properly. Apple makes the best one, still. The Rocoren and it's 100's of clones, are fine, they get hot and they last 1 - 2 years.

[@roygertel]

So you don't recommend this one ? Btw what is the difference between the 160 pro vs 160 x series ?​@AllThingsOnePlace

[@Kavyatej]

thank you

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

You're welcome

[@aidenmiles0307]

So would this suffice for a Macbook Pro, a Switch, an M1 iPad Pro, and an iPhone Pro Max? I'm sorry I'm a bit of a dunce when calculating these things. 😔

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

That's a lot of stuff, it would probably overheat with all that stuff connected and discharged all at once. One or two at a time this would be fine for all of those.

[@Bloggers-jp5pq]

It is clear, we are waiting for the new version, which will be colder, wait.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

i don't speculate on claims, this one promises it's better on the box

[@deathrodamus9608]

Did you test the Ugreen 65W Nexon Pro version?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Not yet.

[@KristiyanSpirov]

Have you been able to compare the nexode pro 100w and the anker 737 120w? I am looking to purchase one of them and use it with a MacBook 16 M1 Pro at uni. Or do you have another recommendation(still would like to know the comparison 😅)

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I have the 65 and 100W Nexode Pro's here. So, coming soon. I'm not sure if it will be directly compared to the 120W though. I usually only have a few spots video comparison wise, so would probably pick the A2343 anker as the competition.

[@KristiyanSpirov]

I am looking forward to that video. When will it be available? A bit unfortunate that you don’t plan on adding the 120w to the comparison. I feel like it would be a good addition and I hope you change your mind. 😃

[@dmgfilmproductionandphotog1567]

@@AllThingsOnePlaceyah pls do an conparison 140w ugreen vs other brand

[@cem_kaya]

would it still overheat while consistently supplying 100W ?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I think chargerlab did 100 watt and found it can do that.

[@rafidnadid1003]

is there any review for the 100w? thinking of buying one.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I have it here, haven't finished the review yet.

[@rafidnadid1003]

@@AllThingsOnePlace great! waiting for it!

[@rayan-mt8ux]

what about anker prime 240w ?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

It's here, coming soon.

[@Phamine]

Stupid question - Do i still need to use a surge protector if I use these types of adapters?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

It depends. If you have issues with line transients, lightning prone, in your area then yes, they often remove some protection components from these chargers to save space or cost. Do you NEED to, no. It is risk management, is it a pretty low risk, yes. Is the protection in each charger a little different, yes.

[@kazifarhan]

Wacom mobile studio pro uses usb C to power. There is a lot of search for this issue since their adapter breaks easily. SOMEONE NEEDS TO LOOK FOR A SOLUTION! Anker GAN 120w did NOT work!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, USB C but what protocol. It could be Quick Charge, QC, or some odd voltage, lots of companies don't follow the USB PD protocol but stuff a USB C port in because they are cheap.

[@kazifarhan]

Yea I mean as a consumer, I really don’t care how or what. I want to be able to charge my device which is very picky. If you do a quick Google search, you will see that these devices don’t even recognize many chargers out there except for their own. I want to know which charger other than the bulky charger it comes with, can get the job done. It is a tough cookie to crack but I assure you, as a marketing professional, the search volume is worth it for any content creator!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

@@kazifarhan can you email me some pictures of the adapter that comes with it? its the channel name at gmail

[@sebastianfaix]

Hi i wont to buy powerbank but i need powerbank with PPS protocol can you recommend some ? Thanks

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

The Zmi was very capable, the Anker Prime power banks have this as well, they're on the premium end of the market price wise. Baseus blade has it as well. They all tested reasonably well for power banks.

[@ahmedelryiess]

I have question if I want to buy one they have offer on alibaba UGREEN 160W : US $79.16 ugreen 140w cd289: US $71.49 which one is the best and I should get i will use it with Legion 5 15ACH6H because the original power supply is 300w heavy for travel

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

You will have to check if the laptop take advantage of 140W USB PD. The 140W is probably my first choice.

[@ahmedelryiess]

@@AllThingsOnePlace I asked Lenovo support and say it only support 100w through usb pd

[@arihusen6004]

Please test for prolink products

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

They are on the list. No idea when though.

[@anndt6402]

Pls test vention 140w, tks

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

In time, maybe.

[@kentanggendeng]

Hey, do you have recomendation PD travel charger for zephyrus G16 (100w PD) ?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

The anker GaN prime 100w is pretty good. I use that with an adapter for whatever country I am going to.

[@kentanggendeng]

@@AllThingsOnePlace ah too bad that my destination is japan, and my country was using eu plug. I guess i need to search for charger that have universal plug

[@kentanggendeng]

@@AllThingsOnePlace okay, i just buy anker 737 gan prime charger, and its producing high-pitched sound when i charge my laptop. Beside that the output was just 35+-. i will not buy or using anker product anymore.

[@ryzen7428]

ugreen is good for cables and accessories not related with charger/power bank

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I give them a chance since at least it appears they are trying.

[@vutung5089]

Does the ugreen 160w power splitter used to charge a second device disconnect and redistribute power?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Power splitter?

[@vutung5089]

@@AllThingsOnePlace Will charging of the second device be interrupted?

[@vaibhavthakur65]

Hey, are there any cheaper chargers that can support Samsung Super Fast Charging 2.0 on both the USB-C ports?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I haven't found any that can do that yet. They don't evenly share power, so most 100W adapters won't do that.

[@vaibhavthakur65]

@@AllThingsOnePlace which charger would you suggest to charge my tab s9ultra and my s23 ultra at maximum wattage?

[@dishogreyword1395]

on PQS website this charger have two very different scores - one with PQS 127 and one with PQS 174. Why there are two test on same date with very different result. Is it error on website?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

One is on 230V and one is on 120V, the compliance standards will change to EU ones. It needs a better indicator to let you know that the two tests are different. But yeah, it groups them because the model is the same. You can technically upload as many datasets as you want for the same model and it will offer them as a list.

[@dishogreyword1395]

@@AllThingsOnePlace thank you for response

[@MGuler]

I want to buy an adapter for my m2 air and 11T pro mobile phone (120w fast charge support). Im going between anker 737 120w and ugreen 140w or 160w which one is better option for future? 20 30 dollars different is no problem. I want to buy one time and going future ^^

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

This won't support the fast charge on that phone. You have to get their charger for that. 120 watts into a phone sounds like a gimmick. I'd probably not pick this charger anyway. You don't really need many watts for the macbook air, so if you can find a dual port charger with support for PD (at least 30 watts) and fast charging your phone that's probably the one to get.

[@MGuler]

@@AllThingsOnePlace Mac air m2 is supports 140W. Xiaomi 11T Pro supports 120w fast charge. I have a huge adapter for it ^^ %1 to %100 takes 12 13 mins. If i buy 160W UGreen. can it damage mac air ? or my phone while charhing ? i do not want to carry all adapters with me so im going for one adapter and the best one ^^

[@grad-dd9zj]

i'm a noob. so first of all, thank you for your vids! second of all, you're making me more confused than before. all these chargers are for different use cases and consumers. and of course you have to serve them all. i understand that. but i haven't found a vid, with a perfect travel charger, since the satechi 165w is kinda big and heavy, and the Baseus GaN3 Pro 100w desktop would have been perfect with 4 instead only 2 usb-c and 2 usb-a ports (since usb-a is about to die out). generally desktop chargers to me are better, since heavy chargers fall out of sockets (like my 96w apple charger when i'm in japan). and what's the perfect amount of ports anyway? a macbook pro which has a large battery capacity and power-banks don't have to be on a charger all the time. overnight does the job. iphones and apple watches on the other hand need a little quick charge occasionally. so two usb-c ports would do the job and the 100w baseus desktop charger would fit? so i went through all your recent vids to figure out, what would be the perfect charger for my needs. ...still couldn't figure it out tho... but i will stick to your vids until i found the one, the perfect travel charger... thanks for all!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, it is tough to make the videos for everyone. Probably one of my biggest struggles as a content creator. I think the three USB C and one USB A port chargers represent an excellent mix of ports. I tend to be partial to charges with a little more wattage because that means even if I am charging a power bank at 100 watts they don't get too hot. So, the Anker 747, 150W is an example that performs well and meets those requirements. It isn't as heavy or large as the Satechi but it suffers the problem you are talking about with falling out of outlets. I think that is the problem, there is no perfect adapter yet, each has a unique deficiency. I'm still daily driving the Satechi 165W. Although for lighter travel I bring the Anker Prime 100W and a short extension cord.

[@grad-dd9zj]

​@@AllThingsOnePlace thank you very much for your answer and your kindness. and also for your advice about the anker prime 100w. this wasn't even on my radar, as it isn't even yet available in my country in europe and sold out in germany. significantly smaller than the 120w version, but efficient enough for bigger macbooks and small devices. perfect for traveling indeed. thank you so much! i wish you a beautiful year and great success with your channel ...i'll stick to it and have recommended you already.

[@sunmoonstar124]

Should i buy baseus 100w or wait?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I'd wait.

[@XboxFanBaby]

Is this okay for Legion Go/Steam Deck/Rog Ally?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, well within the power requirements of those devices and based on the USB modes it should have general compatibility with any USB PD device.