Ukraine hails 'historic step' as EU takes Kyiv closer to membership | Ukraine: The Latest Podcast

Day 621. Today, we bring you the latest updates from Ukraine, discuss the news that Ukraine has been formally recommended for EU membership and we deep-dive into Ukraine’s war time budget.
Contributors:
David Knowles (Host). @djknowles22 on Twitter.
Dominic Nicholls (Associate Editor, Defence). @DomNicholls on Twitter.
Francis Dearnley (Assistant Comment Editor). @FrancisDearnley on Twitter.
Joe Barnes (Brussels Correspondent). @Barnes_Joe Twitter.
With thanks to Yurii Gaidai, Senior Economist at the Centre for Economic Strategy.
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[@nikolaykosev1775]

Love the podcast i listen to it every day.

[@jimgraham6722]

UK would be very well advised to get on and build four or five large nuclear power plants, preferably of the very well proven and versatile CANDU design, upgraded to CANDU6.

[@miclewis55]

Agreed …. But I’m afraid the politicians have squandered all the money and even if we had access to the funding no one would supply us with uranium …. we’ve burnt all our bridges when it comes to uranium supply.

[@johnhamilton6768]

Oh yeah and then when we get a Carrington event (which we are already overdue) watch the whole island get iridatiated?

[@malloc7108]

​@@johnhamilton6768We're not overdue based on what little historic evidence we have. The events in 21 and 89 were both large enough for the time; anything larger isn't due for a few hundred years (we're not even 200 years past the last one). Plus it is the UK; would they even notice the difference?

[@JonasWaldmensch]

Daily Love for Ukraine and this Podcast from Germany 💜💐

[@Navigator2166]

This is a wonderful moment. Ukraine has been putting forth tremendous effort. It seems that President Zelenskyy has been a driving force in this effort. Slava Ukraini.. 🇺🇸🌻🇺🇦

[@JohnCSmith-lp1qr]

😂.

[@alex-E7WHU]

Don't forget.. 10% for the big guy.🤣

[@tatianadejanac8474]

😂😂laugh at all

[@januarywinsor]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@davidl.7317]

It is very encouraging to know that the EU and Canada have increased funding, so much as to surpass the US funding has been surpassed. Together we stand and can easily outspend Russian economy.

[@dedandrei-tag-6512skabelinski]

👎🤡🐖🇬🇧👹🗽🔥👹

[@jamesgornall5731]

Im quite sure they can outspend, question is whether theres any value derived from that spend or just bilions spent on vapours as the miitary industrial complex is famous for

[@imperatorvespasian3125]

its like they have formed an Axis alliance, which is very fitting

[@zoomout7868]

Great talk about the economy of Ukraine by Yurii. All the West should pitch in and help out Ukraine during this toughest times! 💙💛

[@taralown7023]

I could listen to economists all day err day, they are just so smart and knowledgeable and I love it.

[@thelukkman1]

really appreciated your talk tonight, Jake.. Ukraine needs help to win and we (the West) seem to be falling short..I watched Dr Gustave Gressel tonight on Silicone Curtain and my hopes of Russia being defeated are dwindling .. Always love your positive remarks, optimism and honesty ..

[@judgeroybean6930]

Firstly, I would like to thank David, Francis,Dom, Joe and ALL who produce and take part in this "best of the best" podcasts I don't want to be pessimistic BUT while Bulgaria ,Hungary, Turkey and some other countries and it's leaders are in or awaiting for membership of Nato I cannot see Orban NOT VETOING Ukraine, unless it Nato is able to expel Hungary or change the rules to ALLOW Nato to do so and invite Ukraine to take its place.

[@martavdz4972]

Good point, but the process, even when the war is over, will take some time. And Orbán won´t be there forever.

[@hhKJgf1M8a0rzt8hP]

It will be an absolute honor to have Ukrainians in our EU family! Slava Ukrajini!

[@derzok_69]

ну американцы и тут при успели сосать

[@JohnCSmith-lp1qr]

u can have them all. 😂.

[@mike4480]

Just like it was obsolete horror for the Baltic countries to join EU ( or NATO for that matter ) Ivan…..

[@JohnCSmith-lp1qr]

@@mike4480 From Soviet Union to European Union. Not much difference. Instead of decision-making In Moscow.....in Brussels 😆

[@alex-E7WHU]

Thank god the UK is out of that circus 🤡

[@herbertsutherland7690]

Every dollar spent today to aid Ukraine is worth 5 or more future dollars. So frustrating.

[@csmiller5221]

This working class American old coot on Social Security donates to Ukraine House-- DC Foundation each month. It's nowhere near US$900, but something is better than nothing.

[@KathysGuess]

This working class American old coot donates to Ukraine each month too 🙏🏼🇺🇦🇺🇸I’ll count how much at the end of the year 🤫

[@KathysGuess]

Me too old coot donating as much as I can each month 🇺🇸🙏🏼🇺🇦

[@davidl.7317]

Same.

[@pattimontgomery1317]

This 79 yo anti-war hippie donates to purchase night vision equipment and pickup trucks to various soldiers at the front.

[@unfingbelievable1]

Youngish coots donate too😊

[@miclewis55]

Ukraine join the EU ? Ha ha go ahead … I’ll get a box of popcorn this is going to be worth watching 😂

[@KathysGuess]

Piecemeal support from American government has driven me absolutely crazy and Gray hair

[@franksims6452]

All we can do is get out and vote. Try and remove this MAGA crowd from our political system and elect people with a moral compass. Guess other than that get every one know of like mindedness to write to your house representative in your district and make sure they support Ukraine.

[@stephenglover8828]

why has European support been so good yeah ?

[@stephenglover8828]

@@franksims6452 oh so sending Ukraine on the wrong path and only giving them half hearted support eventuating in them losing 10's of thousands of people is moral is it

[@suzannewman979]

Really good interview about Ukraine and its economic needs being maintained, and how this is being accomplished. Sometimes I feel scared for Ukraine as it tried to maintain so many paths to sustainability, while winning a war against this monstous Russian country. Slava Ukraini.

[@omarjaved9748]

This is never going to happen because for one, Ukraine doesn’t meet any of the EU membership criteria (and is the most corrupt European country) and second, the rebuilding would require huge funds to be diverted from current net recipients to Ukraine. With Germany now facing deindustrialisation and a demographic collapse they will no longer be able to finance the EU, and I rather doubt Poland will be happy to give up their economic growth and go from net recipients to net donors just help Ukraine. To let Ukraine in will require so much rule bending that it will just accelerate the end of the EU, or at best it becoming a local version of the UN.

[@miclewis55]

I couldn’t have said it better myself .. Ukraine is a black hole ..👏

[@JohnCSmith-lp1qr]

Well said 😊

[@davidl.7317]

😅

[@Robert-xy4xi]

​@enoughisenough2556OK 😂 Only way is to officially acknowledge that the ethnic Russian areas are now part of the Russian Federation and Crimea! No frozen conflict is what they say! So that is the only way! If is a frozen conflict 20 years from now still no EU membership!

[@Robert-xy4xi]

​@@JohnCSmith-lp1qrAll fantasy 😂 What is left of Ukraine is not getting NATO membership and will be lucky if EU membership is achieved in 10 years!

[@geraldgeaf1292]

They can join the State of The Union and become US 51st or is it 52nd state. As for becoming an EU member, the title says "Historic ...." That is because that chapter is already a HISTORY

[@nuntana2]

Lol Ukraine would sooner be a province of Russia than be UhMerican. Funny.

[@Yawnyaman]

I really don’t think Putin is shaking in his boots

[@duncangreenwood1975]

It's quaking that is going on, and it's not just Putin, and not just in their boots.

[@williamswenson5315]

Just how brave is a leader who sits thirty feet away from everyone else or sends in a body double when he has to?

[@capoeirastronaut]

If the US is putting 5% of it's military budget to Ukraine, & that's $900 per citizen, then they would have to put in $18k each for the total military budget.

[@nazmoosakutty5429]

😂😂😂😂

[@qwikrick9934]

They can revel in joining a failing union wracked by economic woes and an idiotic war that has ZERO chance of success.

[@anthonyhulse1248]

Yes, putin has nothing to offer.

[@Hydemic]

Russia deserves the right to defend itself!🇷🇸🇷🇺❤️

[@wishusknight3009]

From what?

[@Hydemic]

@@wishusknight3009 Western Imperialists who came at their borders.

[@wishusknight3009]

@@Hydemic So nothing then.

[@dedandrei-tag-6512skabelinski]

​@@wishusknight3009👎🤡🐖🇬🇧👹🔥🗽🔥🚀

[@Hydemic]

@@wishusknight3009 Typical democratic answer.

[@unfingbelievable1]

Impressive number of bot comments

[@paulyflyer8154]

What could possibly go wrong?

[@leoTrex-fn2qi]

No one cares about Ukraine right now😂

[@AS088]

The guy saying Slava Ukraine in the intro is so cringe lmao

[@beckyrichmond2046]

This telegraph channel is always good for a laugh 😂 can always rely on this lot for a ton of propaganda, what a bunch of 🤡’s 🤦‍♀️🤣😂🤣

[@timothykatende8484]

I enjoy listening to their propaganda because almost all the time it borders on the ridiculous

[@burritosls]

most of all I like Ukrainian bots that support any decision of their clown🤣🤣🤣

[@bpfromowc]

Changes nothing. Because there’s nothing left to change.

[@AbcDino843]

LOL, sure.

[@ampleangel2262]

Sure, Vlad. 🤡

[@s0ycapitan]

@@ampleangel2262 It would be fabulous to see the chaos if Ukraine was admitted to the EU but it's never going to happen.

[@simonwatson2399]

Why would it be any more chaotic than the basket case that is Greece (lovely place, nice people, but don't look at the economy).

[@philipmain5701]

However this war ends, all wars do, Russia will have an enlarged NATO presence on ite Western border - distrustful and applying sanctions. On its eastern border China - good wishes for the future Soy@@s0ycapitan

[@s0ycapitan]

@@simonwatson2399 Ukraine is destroyed as well as corrupt and bankrupt. Different level of dysfunctional.

[@DominicFlynn]

does anyone else think it's creepy how Dominic cheers on the futile sacrifice of thousands of Ukrainian lives?

[@brucetillerson3329]

Poor Dominic still does not understand what Russian objectives are! Its not about gaining territory, its about destroying Ukraine's military. If he had listened to Putin in February 2022 he would maybe understand this! Without this understanding then nothing Dominic says is of any consequence!

[@timothykatende8484]

He has failed perhaps out of poor character to learn from Roland Nolipharth

[@user-ge5qb3xq5m]

Please watch The Duran instead of this drivel

[@shauneason5897]

The long haul war of attrition we face is vital IMHO ;But for what that's worth . In order to avoid or negate any other aggressive ambitions on freedom. Best Prepare to fight for human rights as I hope none are prepared to surrender those rights

[@kitcat4512]

What the EU wanted all along, since regime change in 2014, and before.

[@januarywinsor]

Great! Now prepare to wait a lifetime 😂

[@bezdownunder5481]

Ukraine is in trouble now... EU offer must be because they are toast and need somthing to offer what will be left from ukraine.

[@griffinzoo1]

Never going to happen, Ukraine is finished.

[@rasherbilbo452]

Could not care less.

[@naas699]

white noise. Ukraine will never be able to fford to join the EU. Yanukovych, when in power before the USA's violent and illegal coup to overthrow him had stated his desire to join the EU, RU said they had no problem with it, just that they were not going to pay for them to join.

[@mostlygreen1]

I couldn't hear the episode properly over the sound of my irony klaxon as the Telegraph talked about how good for Ukraine and its GDP EU membership would be and how symbolic of unity with the west.

[@plweis7203]

It would be completely stupid and wholly naive for the Ukraine to join the EU (which is nosediving in any case), just like it would be for the Ukraine to join NATO. These people appear to me to be deluded.

[@American-In-Mykolaiv]

It is completely stupid to listen to a Russian troll, isn't it, Ivan?

[@hhKJgf1M8a0rzt8hP]

Why is Russia so afraid of Ukraine joining EU and NATO if both are nosediving, no issue then, yes comrade

[@benoitbvg2888]

And how would it be "stupid"? How stupid was it for Poland or the Baltic states?

[@colmquinn7860]

Hey even Boris said it would be "World Beating" for Ukraine to join the EU ,😂

[@williamswenson5315]

So very true it's almost Pravda, isn't it?

[@barkerbiz]

Ukraine will never make it. Russia will be in Odessa by Spring. Kiev will cease to be by then. (IMO)

[@anthonyhulse1248]

RuZZofascists are not even in the Black Sea. How are they going to be in Odessa? 🤡🧌

[@williamswenson5315]

Of course. It's all part of the plan...

[@champauddin8644]

Imagine Russia act like a victim

[@monkeyboy8424]

The little green man Zelensky is finished.

[@simonwatson2399]

Yet somehow he's still there despite all Putler's effort.

[@benoitbvg2888]

Appropriate user name.

[@simonwatson2399]

Monkey's have been proven quite intelligent, maybe they were hoping some would rub off.

[@benoitbvg2888]

@@simonwatson2399 Monkeys are RELATIVELY intelligent. They can even use tools and some, such as our friend here, can even be taught to use a keyboard. However, I doubt that they really comprehend the subtilities of modern geopolitics.

[@krazyswede11]

A half a million men dead now the Zionist Ellenskyy is going to have women die senselessly for him. God curse him and those responsible

[@peterwong4779]

The gift of EU,, looking realistic of Ukrainian now 😢

[@s0ycapitan]

As a eurosceptic I'd love to see it but it's never going to happen 🤣

[@American-In-Mykolaiv]

It will happen, and it will happen sooner than anyone expects.

[@s0ycapitan]

@@American-In-Mykolaiv I hope so, I don't like the EU . Ukraine is completely unsuitable for membership and will hasten the end of the rotten project.

[@tatianadejanac8474]

@@American-In-Mykolaiv😂😂😂😂😂😂pathetic fool

[@williamswenson5315]

Who thought the Soviet Union would fall? Who thought Germany would re-unite? Sometimes the world surprises us.

[@s0ycapitan]

@@williamswenson5315 My money is on the EU and NATO both self destructing. I think the UK should probably join BRICS.

[@timothykatende8484]

This podcast fails to realise that the promise of EU membership is a carrot being dangled to force Zelensky to the negotiating table with the Russians...its that simple

[@buddyrojek9417]

Possibly. The Ukrainians love the ability to work in the EU. I didn’t see so many Ukrainian flags flown , but Ukraine’s live affair is nice cars, clothes and homes. Only income from working in the EU can deliver that

[@imperatorvespasian3125]

Russians are not interested in the negotiating table, they tried many times, and a deal with the west is worthless just like all the others

[@Jazzisa311]

I don't buy it. Nobody wants a country at war in the EU; that would kill our economy. And there can't be a lasting peace when Putin is still not even in control of all the annexed territories. Ukraine won't give up Kherson, that'd be insane. And the EU doesn't want a ceasefire, that's just pushing the can down the road.

[@stephenglover8828]

The Financial Times keeps talking about Ukraine joining the EU, this will be quite hilarious actually because not only is Europe in such Economic decline, having Ukraine join it will be the final nail in the Coffin.

[@FOGSmokebeer]

lol sure

[@brentoconner2537]

The people of Ukraine must decide who the next president of Ukraine is to be not Zelenskyy.

[@bezdownunder5481]

Why is it bad for Moscow... This is a gesture why Z is lossing the war and to get them to sue for peace.

[@burritosls]

It's not bad or good for Moscow. At the negotiations with Ukraine in 2022, Russia clearly said that it was not against Ukraine's accession to the EU. Against only NATO.

[@mukenditshibangu6653]

THE ZELEZULE UKRAINIAN COMEDIAN PRESIDENT.

[@devilishdeed]

Ukraine is losing. Stop the war.

[@16252]

Somebody thinks the Russians are winning at Avdiivka. Hold my vodka...

[@williamswenson5315]

Yes; preferably before Putin is left with nothing more than a rowboat in the Black Sea.

[@bansheep1]

EU? Hahaha.... Come on... Why not today? It'll be.like mad max in europe 😂

[@waltbarratt200]

Who is going to pay to rebuild Ukraine? Is it Europe I feel for the people of Ukraine but it will need a rebuild costing millions of euros that we can’t afford

[@omarjaved9748]

Billions! Not millions. It’s estimated to cost about 2 years of Ukraine gdp

[@jimgraham6722]

Rebuilding will provide huge economic stimulus to all involved. Think about Germany and Japan post World war 2. So it's not a question of affording it. Ukraine has demonstrated a huge enthusiasm for modernising and will bring much needed new capability to the Union. All the new infrastructure will provide a great boost to productivity.

[@waltbarratt200]

Great example it cost that much to rebuild German Britain already financially on its knees, due to lease lend and giving American all the gold reserves it could not afford to run the empire, so had to go into debt to rebuild itself it only finished paying for it in the 1990s, so my original question who is going to pay for the re building?

[@franksims6452]

First off there hast to be a Ukraine to rebuild. And not just another puppet state of Russia. Given the chance Ukraine could be the greatest part of the EU. Especially after all there going through to be free of Russian dictatorship. They aren't asking anyone to fight this war for them just the aid to do it. Rebuilding afterwards is the easy part, living through it is what's difficult.

[@anthonyhulse1248]

The free world.

[@followthemoney5756]

Utter fantasy land

[@raisonneur682]

Selensky got a mouthwatering lollipop from Ursula v. d. Leyen just to keep him silent. 🍭 😄

[@champauddin8644]

Double standard Falastine gets no love

[@colmquinn7860]

Ha! UK in the rejoin queue will have a loooong wait 😂

[@giveusanepleasebob992]

Rejoin.??? 😂😂

[@ulfsoderberg2581]

How many new coalmines and coalplants are there

[@williamswenson5315]

The vast majority of the new ones are located in a little garden spot know as the PRC.

[@ulfsoderberg2581]

@@williamswenson5315 And in UK

[@brentoconner2537]

Is it part of the EU standards to not have elections when the current President’s term ends?

[@PythonLee]

Both NATO and the EU won't allow any nation with unsafe borders to join.

[@haroondaman7162]

Lol, they ain't letting them in until this war is over, at that point Russia will be defeated and NATO won't be needed, if they lose, there won't be a Ukraine and NATO won't be needed 😂

[@champauddin8644]

Does Russia have the right to defend itself? I’m just asking

[@uku4171]

I'm sure that question is asked in complete good faith 🙄

[@Robert-xy4xi]

Its over for the Banderas in Kiev! The only way and its coming is that all ethnic Russian areas and Crimea is officially recognised as part of the Russian Federation! That is if a frozen conflict is to be avoided!

[@stanpennycook5414]

This is deluded nonsense.

[@DominicFlynn]

"Just a tragic incident", then Valerii Zaluzhnyi published a video where he insinuated it was an assassination AND that he under no circumstances accepts gifts. Dominic doesn't want to tell us both sides of the story, only parrot the official SBU story.

[@lw1zfog]

the EU is already a failed concept 😂

[@pattimontgomery1317]

💛🇺🇦💙🎉🍾Happy Dance🍾🎉💙🇺🇦💛

[@fahmad7194]

Rishi must resist the temptation to burn more of our tax money in foreign adventures

[@rajonali7581]

Free Palestine 🇵🇸

[@Robert-xy4xi]

The BBC and Sky news have moved on with what is left of Ukraine! Gaza/Israel is not so embarrassing!

[@burritosls]

"I have a plan" (c) V.Zelensky🤣🤣🤣It looks like everything is going according to plan for Zelensky, I'm glad for him

[@kalmansovari6878]

Orbán will serve the KGB from his cell until the end.

[@tatianadejanac8474]

At least Orban is fighting for Hungary…. zelensky is just fighting for his pocket. His wife travelling around Europe like princess …… let people dying. For what? Corrupted country?

[@williamswenson5315]

If he's smart enough, he can go into exile with Yanukovych.

[@pauldean8638]

Don’t talk rubbish

[@bezdownunder5481]

The gains ukraine made are mainly under threat.

[@zodiaccgh741b]

in 7 years nothing changed

[@DyadyaFedorTube]

Yeah, Ukraine gained so much...a debt to Poland that they will have to pay off with own territory (Lviv and nearby region), landlease debt that they won't be able to pay off for a century, wrecked economy, status of most corrupt country in Europe. Bit more effort and Ukraine will stop it's existence. Amazing gains 😂😂

[@faizmiah2363]

FREE PALESTINE!

[@elismith5236]

Ukraine belongs to Russia not European union

[@simonwatson2399]

Ukraine belongs to Ukrainians and they can make up their own mind.

[@buddyrojek9417]

Russia belongs to Ukraine. When Russia collapses , China takes the east, uneasily take the West

[@claus.pe.7937]

Russia 🇷🇺 deserves the right for self confidence 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

[@anthonyhulse1248]

They need to get rid of putin and the Soviet regime first

[@ninaaniston1717]

EU is in the business of collecting rubbish now? To be fair, seeing what it let in since 2015 I should expect that.

[@javiersolis-400]

Es ist einfach unglaublich fesselnd!💚

[@American-In-Mykolaiv]

Yes, in time Orban will disappear, much like Trump, and the EU will recover, like NATO, and Ukraine will be an asset to the EU.