Ukraine: No more time limits on military service | DW News

Ukraine's parliament has passed a new law making it easier to call up new recruits. It requires all men between 18 and 60 years old to carry documents showing they have registered with the military. A general told lawmakers ahead of the vote that Ukrainian soldiers are outnumbered ten-to-one in places.
Parliamentarians also dropped a clause from the law placing time-limits on service. Earlier versions allowed for demobilisation after three years. The omission is a bitter blow for battle-weary troops, some of whom have been fighting since the war began.
Chapters:
0:00 Background on the new law
3:22 Mike Martin, military expert
6:59 Marina Miron, military expert
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[@gabrielrey3371]

So basically what you are saying is that the only way to return from military service is in a coffin. What morale booster!

[@jonathanjacob5453]

No worries once we make it clear to them that they are fighting for democracy and EU values moral will skyrocket.

[@ericp1139]

Or surrender to Russia.

[@maryanchabursky9148]

Nope your just not guaranteed and end to service

[@alexventrov6826]

@@maryanchabursky9148 Which exponentially increases your chances of dying. What are you confused about? Ukraine now accepts women, and they are dying. Is this what you support? I have videos that I can email you for evidence.

[@daexion]

@@ericp1139 Not surrender, just a willingness to go to the peace table without listening to the US/UK making grand promises to keep them in weapons while their population dwindles and dwindles and dwindles.

[@penutbutter4189]

Why only men? We want equality in everything right?

[@carlosc4968]

Women will be called more often too

[@iqao]

😂 how’s that gender equality?!

[@ndidiokafor2249]

🤣🤣

[@Nik_Airball]

Women are too emotion in war. They will be of great distraction and cause lots of drama. This is from a prior service member.

[@joystiicks5680]

I believe men are more useful on the battlefield itself, they carry more gear etc. Women are valuable in other areas, could be logistic. Let's not forget only women can be pregnant so there's that

[@karrole88]

Zelenskyy said they have 880,000 soldiers and lost only 31,000 so why all these desperation.

[@giacomu1]

lost 31.000 and they vote a new law to mobilize 400.000 more

[@engliterra355]

he also says they destroy countless Russian military equipment and lose nothing and yet constantly asks for more money and equipment

[@Citibank639]

@@engliterra355 so what is your problem? Ukraine need help and we must help them.!! They fighting for all of us for freedom of nations

[@christinekane6059]

​@@Citibank639So very true 👍

[@avex3903]

@@Citibank639 you can help them by joining the front

[@tomasbisciak7323]

dying in proxy war initiated by the US... is it worth it?

[@JessicaD.-vb9ho]

Only to Zelensky who's likely one of the richest men in the world now.

[@thegreatdane3627]

russia started the war. They invaded Ukraine, remember?

[@ericp1139]

To Zelensky, it is. He now has many homes.

[@LePlerome]

describe to the class what u think the leaked Nuland call shows

[@LePlerome]

​@@JessicaD.-vb9ho k, Boris

[@Schattengewaechs99]

The politicians get older, the soldiers get younger.

[@lovepopupuk7144]

Very sad

[@rouz0]

They have lost their minds. The whole Ukriane demography has changed . Nothing has remained. is madness and morally wrong this man will not get even enough training and ammunition

[@mourka01]

If only they could force all the kids of their leaders onto the front lines instead of the poor.

[@vagabond919]

Many young and productive generations have died because of the stupidity of their leader.

[@Mr.Clownensky]

And a comedian clown is taking all the credits lol

[@Panaputra]

Who thought Russians fighting with shovels are this powerful.😄

[@adrian5783]

And with tanks taking out from Museums,

[@gregc8567]

ruzzian human shovels scatter the fields...

[@lilrevolt4548]

They are fighting the whole Russian system the have 174m workers driving this war machine lol

[@eliotness4029]

military expert from LONDON knows everything

[@relentless5881]

Russian said, they take Ukraine in 3 days.

[@stephenlyon1358]

Imagine fighting for 2 and a half years, waiting for 3 years to get home. Then they say, serve forever...

[@Fiercygoat]

gutwrenching

[@Mrac-zz8vh]

Yes, you survive like 1000 hellish days in the trenches, than they say you Will have to be there until you win or die... Meaning, until you die.

[@stephenlyon1358]

@@Mrac-zz8vh Like if I was that soldier, I'd just surrender to the Russians or make a run for it.

[@Mrac-zz8vh]

@@stephenlyon1358 If i was forcefully conscripted not being there by my own decesion, i would also try to get out of the army Any Way possible.

[@ericp1139]

Best to defect to Russia.

[@avex3903]

DW is ukraine still winning 🤔

[@Citibank639]

Yes

[@derekferguson385]

Don’t be ridiculous.

[@Crackshotsteph]

Yes. In our hearts and on Social Media.

[@TheGesox]

Yes selensky's wife has already planned the Victory day party on the Red square. Tickets will be available soon 😂😂

[@jonathanjacob5453]

Yes do the math. According Zelensky AKA the new Winston Churchill, Ukraine started with 1 million soldiers and had 31K KIA. Also Ukraine is shooting down a plane a day and destroying 1 or 2 ships a week. Meanwhile they destroyed 500K Russians. So all is fine really, no need to panic.

[@peterrisbergs7156]

DW Slava Ukraine propagandists now face reality.

[@avex3903]

they cant all they can do is whining and coping 🤭

[@deshalpandithage4208]

Where are they now?

[@thegreatdane3627]

what reality? Have the Ukrainian lines collapsed yet?

[@adrian5783]

​​@@deshalpandithage4208 by US Embassy, asking for a refuge visa

[@ericp1139]

Slava Reality!

[@Brasscoatedcandy]

Biden said to the last Ukrainians, no joke.

[@trevorsutherland5263]

"You are outnumbered 10 to 1, so keep fighting" ---- Imperial Japan 1945

[@mng8680]

Even Imperial Japan eventually surrendered when they took enough casualties after US dropped the atomic bombs.

[@jakeh491]

As well us brits in Africa, Americans in many Vietnam battles, russians against the natzis in 1943, natizs against the Russians in 1944. That's war it happens you keep fighting until there is litterally no hope

[@patricklarsen8078]

Ukraine 2024

[@ankpms830]

You also have no real friends who has will to unlimited support

[@Rockboygg]

​@jakeh491 there is already no hope. Most of the "fit for service" kids already have German/Polish/French/UK passports because, those are the upper class kids! Only the poor, downtrodden, and "McNamara specials" left.

[@vandenriesen1294]

Meanwhile, US & EU mull over imposing 2000+ new sanctions against Russia 😅

[@trafor01]

Enough to make it look as if they are doing something but not enough to end the war.

[@Aleks-dg9cx]

Somehow it only helped russian economy to grow, probably the wrong sanctions

[@Booz2020]

Slava 🇹🇼 Heroyam TAIWANese 🦾

[@gustaafpeeters6173]

@@trafor01 That "something" = destroying their own economy.

[@Allford.adventures]

@@gustaafpeeters6173 exactly, karma springs to mind lol. Russia has only got better because of them not weeker,

[@mungucitimothy3530]

The feminists are no where to be seen.

[@Brasscoatedcandy]

I'm sure that you can find them on only fools complaining about the wage gap.

[@shyguy9102]

They are only ok with making the first move on men and working but when it comes to going to war they disappear

[@Baqbaq_badhanaa]

They are in the streets of Ukraine protesting for their conjugal rights

[@mickmacgonigle5021]

Rich man's war . Poor man's fight

[@uostap1]

The words of those who were burned in the oven or hanged?

[@scottwebb4722]

That’s been the history of all wars, the poor are always the fodder

[@Robert-xy4xi]

Why no mention of Kiev mayor Vitaly Kiltschko sons partying in Germany and recently obtained German citizenship!

[@josephlyimo4232]

Negotiate….stop this war…..

[@alexman8800]

New faces called up without war experience how can they even expect them to win ?

[@matfudge1143]

only way to negotiate is if Putin is removed from power, he is the aggressor invading, murdering, dictating.

[@Allford.adventures]

America wont let them sadly

[@karlmunford7000]

Should have remained neutral, what was Putin supposed to do knowing that Nato would build bases on the Russia-Ukraine border? less than three hundred miles from the centre of Moscow with only the flat lands between them.

[@ldhorricks]

NATO has never been a threat to Russian security...but it has been a threat to Russian revanchism...if not for NATO Russia would have already moved on the Baltics. Why do you think we here in former Soviet oppressed countries wasted no time in requesting membership to both the EU and NATO....we know Russian mentality.

[@gicacraioveanu8258]

NATO can build bases 50 km from St Peter....30 miles..in the Baltic states ...but they don't .DUDE....WOULD. SHOULD ..COULD.......MAN...WAKE UP....yuour FOREVER czar wants to conquer new land...for him...yukraine is not a country ..he said it officially....now he realized that in fact ukraine is a strong country,...Russia the only country in the wolrd to get new lands since 1945.....Georgia lands, Crimea, and now more of ukraine

[@engliterra355]

Logical thinking is not about Ukraine

[@fnmkd3142]

Russia had nato at the border for decades. Never been a problem. And 2 more countries after the 3 day war started. Just means russia can`t invade them like chechnya, georgia and moldova. Russia`s aggression is why neighbours seek safety.

[@dabajabaza111]

That doesn't make any sense. Now the border is just moved somewhere else.

[@Unknown-te6dz]

Zelensky said Ukraine lost 31k men. This cannot be true.

[@2mallikharjuna]

Zelenskyy said means it’s true if you point out u will be marked as Russia bot 😂

[@aaronbergeron9742]

400k dead sadly

[@thezone5840]

It is most certainly true.....this month.

[@dexterspeights3484]

The real number is 310,000 men > easily over a period of 2 years!

[@mamook2322]

More like 300k

[@user-zc1cx8jc4s]

No way out, starting to feel bad for Ukrainian men, imagine being forced to die for a cause that can be solved by negotiation, life and family is more important than fighting for imaginary borders.

[@thegreatdane3627]

but it can't be solved by negotiations. There is no realistic solution on the table.

[@eddastrohmayer251]

​​@@thegreatdane3627 Istanbul-Papiere as a basis - that is what Putin said several times

[@thegreatdane3627]

@@eddastrohmayer251 putin also said he was not going to invade Ukraine. Not the most credible person...

[@claus-not-santa]

@@thegreatdane3627NATO also said NOT expanding to East.............

[@Yesai-cj2mt]

Most of the politician's and the Rich children's are abroad enjoying this law is for the poor Ukrainians

[@antaquar5928]

But the Russians have no ammo left right ?! 🤣

[@stiannunn5113]

😂🤣

[@Mr.Clownensky]

But why DW censoring comments though? 🤔

[@mickg7299]

The old myth that it is only Russia that does the censoring has been well and truly debunked.

[@user-ns7xr5fq1i]

Freedom of speech 😊

[@sergejadam8860]

How dare they. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ericp1139]

It’s European values.

[@aboibrahim9710]

Because they don't want you to know the truth

[@zeljkomikulicic4378]

Remind me on Germany 1944. Total mobilization. Didn't help.

[@maryanchabursky9148]

Who is doing total mobilization? Not Ukraine

[@zeljkomikulicic4378]

@@maryanchabursky9148 they prepare for that

[@maryanchabursky9148]

@@zeljkomikulicic4378 lol not even close. In fact people complain that the government hasn’t invoked the economic mobilisation law. Additionally the minimum age of conscription is now 25 and women and students are still not included.

[@itsgoodforyou4235]

The population of Russia is 5x that of Ukraine. If you still have questions, see a psychiatrist.

[@Citibank639]

So what?

[@TheAbortionWhoLived]

Russia is not at war btw

[@fnmkd3142]

Soviet union lost in afghanistan despite losing only 15k soldiers. It drained the economy, and that war was blueberries compared to this. Usa also lost in vietnam despite being far superior. You can win against an army, but not an entire country.

[@user-mz3in7vo5b]

So, you are willing to sacrafice 5x???? Bigger army, Bigger TARGET!

[@moonstone3662]

@@user-mz3in7vo5b Doubt they will have to sacrifice that amount of troops by the way its going. They will probably not do too anything drastic, and will just keep jabbing away until Ukraine crumbles from lack of funding from here on out.

[@Kanawanu]

Russia has 3 time the population? Try 7 bro. Ukraine 2024 is not the same as the one in 2014. Ukr had 40mil prioor to sessesion. Around 9.5 million are in Russian controlled areas and loyal to Rus. Around 6/7 million Ukranians left the country in the period od 2014/2022 with emphasis in the first few weeks of the war before borders were closed. So ar this stage counting the dead and wounded Ukraine does not have more then 23 million. The highest possible estimate for mobilization of the last ukranian men is 6.5 million. Thats why everyone said at the beginning this war will be waged until the last Ukrainian for the benefit of the west. Sad.

[@sa-tx2co]

7 is the number, totally agree. Even if Ukraine had 5 million left in it, this dude will still say Russia has 3 times the population. Either this guy is clueless or he assumes that audience is clueless, I assume both.

[@LoveableLincoln32]

This is absolutely abysmal to make sure the men fight until they are eventually killed. Those those poor men unable to see there families again.

[@Noble570]

With the loss of 30 thousand soldiers only according to Zelensky and the Russians being so bad at fighting and also having far less capable weapons compared to the Western ones Ukraine has..this desperate need of soldiers does not make sense

[@user-wg7bb3kp7z]

Because the media is lying Russia is destroying Ukraine and nato forces

[@nuhashahmed7692]

They don't have ammo, weapons are useless if you don't have ammo.

[@avex3903]

shh dont think about it 🤫

[@user-hp8fo9bz3x]

When Russia occupied the Ukrainian capital, the driver was already in the United States

[@elanbaharie7274]

😂 it's called Ukraine is losing, has been losing, and will lose

[@dabajabaza111]

Who tf wants to join a military that's outnumbered 10 to 1?

[@eliotness4029]

military expert from LONDON knows everything

[@calvinrichardson5852]

It's not the war it's fighting for the families and countymen that cannot defend themselves

[@StuLau]

Mobilisation is one thing but getting them to fight is another

[@mikhail7587]

There are no winners and losers in wars, only the dead and survivors

[@mitchdaytonam3]

Pretty sure the Americans won WW2 pretty convincing… they ended it the most powerful national on earth and their country didn’t get bombed at all. There are loads of examples of “winners” and “losers” in war, put your brain in gear.

[@Fungineering999]

The real winner is the military complex and some politicians. Regular soldiers only go to die or to get traumatized.

[@onepuchok5789]

So why in this world some countries are big some are small😂😂

[@ldhorricks]

oh how profound

[@realnapster1522]

There are only fools who die. And politicians like Zelensky who make billions.

[@jamesortiz5388]

Being forced to fight people won't want to be so loyal.

[@cryptomon86]

wont be surprised if we see more coup factions

[@rouz0]

Most of them disappear! A Polish general was saying about 1 million are unaccounted for. Videos come from Ukrainians trying to pass the border and escape.

[@RUTHLESSambition5]

Anytime you have to snatch people off the street it's going downhill fast. When your country very existence is at stake and 1.5 million men have fled you know it's a serious problem

[@Paul-yh8km]

British conscripts in WW2 were signed up indefinitely. Many served for more than 5 years.

[@eioclementi1355]

@@RUTHLESSambition5 and they tell us this is the democracy people voted for

[@allydea]

What no one seems to like to say is that Russia is mobilizing through voluntaries and Ukraine through conscription. So much for the supposed morale advantage Ukraine had in year 1.

[@NightCallx6]

Someone is losing the War

[@bapiasify]

and those are men

[@Crackshotsteph]

@@bapiasify The poor and working class.

[@bapiasify]

@@Crackshotsteph nah ...only men are in danger, poor women get rations .

[@pedros1]

They lost in 1991 when required independence

[@user-mz3in7vo5b]

Both could loose the war....

[@TommyV8898]

In war, soldiers always lose, while politicians rake in the profits.

[@bapiasify]

men always lose, while women rake in the profits.

[@user-mv1qc2mz4h]

No, no what’s a good story without a villain? In the end, who wins? The immortal private with the vet that has seen the other side of the hill?

[@Fungineering999]

Politicians and the military complex.

[@shinji1264]

Only pootin profiting from this

[@googoogooman]

And defense companies make loads and loads and loads of real money, don’t forget …

[@shutup2751]

oh what a great democracy, this will be a serious morale booster

[@bnatbox]

why not do peaceful talk?

[@katrinagarrett9612]

Daddy U.S.A. says no.

[@mickg7299]

Time for Zelensky to throw in the towel.

[@maryanchabursky9148]

Only if the towel is a long range drone and the floor is a ruSSian oil facility

[@mickg7299]

@@maryanchabursky9148 Ukrainian drone factories have been neutralised courtesy of Russian hypersonic shovels.

[@maryanchabursky9148]

@@mickg7299 lol tell your delusions to the ruSSians on the front where even ardent propagandists complain about the major Ukrainian drone threat.

[@stiannunn5113]

@@mickg7299 😂🤣

[@martijnstam6186]

Time for Putin to surrender which means Russia becomes a democratic country.

[@bapiasify]

where are the feminists ??? they need equal rights , what about equal responsibility ?

[@eldorsattorov6033]

Equality when comfortable for them 😂

[@mememanbehindtheshadows546]

well they're with their comrades, as support, marksman.

[@xena2559]

Idiocracy at its best

[@bapiasify]

@@xena2559 here comes feminist big mouth

[@OGTK00]

​@@xena2559Consider joining the war effort :) Go and get your equality :)

[@GongGhuru]

Marina as earned my Respect, as a military analyst, She doesn't insult her career with blatant lies, She just knows what to say, and what not to say

[@she825]

Agreed

[@edwardmclaughlin7935]

It's tough right now, being a British citizen, knowing what the US/UK pact is engaged in, and how the British media lies to forward the programme. How much worse must it be for Germans, knowing that the German media is doing the very same, even though part of the programme is to take down Germany.

[@JG-xi4tu]

You are really tripping. Our german media is very good.

[@TommyConlan]

Я смотрел аналитика из Канады он утверждал что цель этих конфликтов понизить значимость германии в Европе

[@edwardmclaughlin7935]

@@JG-xi4tu Have they told you who blew up your cheap gas supply yet?

[@edwardmclaughlin7935]

@@TommyConlan That's a very Irish sounding name for a Cyrillic speaker!

[@TommyConlan]

​@@edwardmclaughlin7935а тут всегда об этом говорят?)) ты уже не первый😂 это мой ник в компьютерной игре

[@derekferguson385]

Time to throw the towel in.

[@mgronich948]

The CIA and US neocons will never throw in the towel.

[@rajeshkumarm6441]

French troops will show how to wave the white flag 🏳️

[@Arnisho]

only 31k dead btw

[@krishnak5855]

318k corrected

[@BeachCity]

Why would anyone fight an unwinnable battle for a corrupt government?

[@maryanchabursky9148]

No idea, the mind of a ruSSian soldier is truly perplexing

[@BeachCity]

@@maryanchabursky9148 At the time of your reply the Ukraine 25th airborne brigade mass surrendered to Russia.

[@maryanchabursky9148]

@@BeachCity according to who? Ask good job at dogging my point. Now tell me how much territory has ruSSia gained since gaining the initiative and how does that compare to what Ukraine took during the summer counter offensive?

[@BeachCity]

@@maryanchabursky9148 I can't provide links on youtube, sorry. The surrender is reported at Berdychi though spelling is a bit tough due to alphabet conversion issues.

[@stiannunn5113]

@@BeachCity 😂🤣

[@tomaaron6187]

245 thousand Ukrainian starting new lives in Canada. 75 thousand of them military aged males…the better educated. It’s baffling what Zelensky’s end game is…keep destroying what’s left of society?

[@eddastrohmayer251]

200 thousand Ukrainian men military aged in Germany ...

[@mgronich948]

Pity those who are unable to escape from Zelensky's secret police(aka army recruiters).

[@kirilld6206]

This is true, they don't have a victory option anymore, even in theory it is all a pyrric ones.

[@maryanchabursky9148]

Nice imaginary data completely useless but you have a vivid imagination. What do you mean Zelenskys end game? Zelensky is just doing what the people want which is to prevent ruSSia from destroying Ukraine. What is putins end game is a better question (since he actually has a choice)?

[@eddastrohmayer251]

@@maryanchabursky9148 don't agree! The choice of Ukraine has always been to negotiate - to agree to be a Puffer-state with Neutrality-status and give up Donbas and Crimea - very frankly spoken!!!

[@xtwmx]

Never seen people so supportive of discrimination by gender. Almost like inequality is our strength now.

[@Citibank639]

From centuries and centuries men are always fight. What are you talking about? Go read a book.

[@Alpffine]

Only men should be allowed to vote, that's the only way to even this out.

[@gumby2241]

Zelenski: fight until you die. Recruiter: where are the volunteers?

[@amadeuz819]

Ruski bot or just ignorant?

[@SkyDiver-wd5oj]

@@amadeuz819 nope, just an astute observer

[@DM_Laf]

People should know when they are defeated!

[@revenant7734]

Does it mean nothing to you that Russia illegally invaded a neighbouring country simply because Putin the murdering autocrat leader has a persecution complex?

[@maryanchabursky9148]

People do know when they are defeated it’s when they can’t keep fighting. Nowhere near defeat no matter how much ruSSian bots wish it was true

[@DovesView-]

@@maryanchabursky9148 The idea of calling any opposing view a Russian bot has been the reason why this war is still going on and killing many young men. Sometimes we ought to accept a contrary view that goes against what we believe in other to form a more comprehensive meaning of a particular event

[@maryanchabursky9148]

@@DovesView- lol he is saying that Ukraine has been defeated and should surrender only to weaken foreign support for Ukraine not because the reality in the ground reflects that. When one view is you have a right to exist and the opposing view is you don’t have a right to exist then I reject the “opposing view” entirely. Ukraine and Ukrainians have a right to exist, I have a right to exist, and we will not make a ceasefire that will only let ruSSia kill us more effectively once they decide to brake it (again).

[@meme3395]

Zelensky has decimated an entire generation

[@maryanchabursky9148]

……of rural ruSSians

[@giawou6615]

There is absolute no more men in Ukraine.................................................................................................

[@mickg7299]

The Great Escape 🏃

[@pedros1]

They ordered "to fight till the last", what is not clear in this statement???

[@adrian5783]

I seen on news , the Ukrainian teenagers are crossing illegally the borders

[@rarirover44]

how about the transgender ones😂😂 lol

[@maryanchabursky9148]

So ruSSia is struggling to capture unmanned positions? Lol

[@theChiral]

Despite losing only 31 thousand soldiers? Where did others go?

[@SkyDiver-wd5oj]

a great question

[@herbfromhouston1960]

Need to sign peace treaty !!

[@whinstonsthlm]

So Russia can attack again in a few years. You are delusional and don't undertand Russia.

[@centralgirl10]

Yes or Russia can leave Ukraine and all this stops

[@JessicaD.-vb9ho]

​@@centralgirl10why do you feel Russia should allow US bases on it's border? No leader who actually cares about their country is going to allow such a thing.

[@JessicaD.-vb9ho]

​@@centralgirl10if you had a hostile enemy that saw you as competition, didn't want you to become too successful so was super jealous and also they had nukes and other weapons that could destroy you(and you know they want to) camping your backyard? Lol yeah brilliant

[@maryanchabursky9148]

Yea ruSSia does

[@scholasticsigridagren794]

Wow DW news. Finally the scales are falling off your eyes. Zelensky should give up now!

[@Reorks911]

Fight all you want but stop taking my tax dollers.

[@nazistowskisnob543]

It was alleged that Ukrainian soldiers had a kill ratio of 1:20, why do they have such stringent laws if they enjoyed such an advantage

[@Mrac-zz8vh]

It is almost like the entire "free" media was lieing the same lie. Like they all were centrally controlled.🤷

[@evananthony1395]

have u never consider that not only Russia can lie to media?

[@Hilltycoon]

It has never been 20:1. You could argue 5:1. But last few months they're also barely getting military aid, so you could even have a million men but if they don't have any ammunition it's worthless

[@avex3903]

@@Hilltycoon so its 5 to 1 even tho russia has greater firepower you nato bots are out of your minds 😂

[@maryanchabursky9148]

“It was alleged” by who the voices in your head?

[@carolinebaione]

Stop the war 🙏 Peoples are dying

[@maryanchabursky9148]

Sorry putin will it listen to you

[@user-yg5hl7gr7j]

@@maryanchabursky9148 Is Putin's name Boris?

[@theodorrodriguez1800]

and how exactly do you propose ending this war? neither side will simply put down arms and declare peace, thats not going to happen so what have you got?

[@seazonchik]

​@@theodorrodriguez1800easy. All ukranians men died and capitulated. They can do it in 2022, but they made a choice, wrong choice

[@maryanchabursky9148]

@@user-yg5hl7gr7j no it’s vlad

[@giantWario]

At one point Ukraine had a million soldiers. According to Zelensky, they lost only 31 000. And yet they're outnumbered 10 to 1. I guess Russia has 10 million soldiers in Ukraine now? Oh wait no, according to the USA and the British themselves, they have 400 000. So please calculate yourself how many soldiers Ukraine has actually lost for those numbers to be possible.

[@user-sn3gd7cg5n]

Old men’s arguing, young men’s are dying 😢

[@user-mv1qc2mz4h]

This is only because the young men and women are scared of death more so than generations before us therefore, anything that represents old reminds us of death so we avoided it. Nobody feels safe.

[@user-gn1ef1iy6m]

btw, u(k)r(a)ine's army has average age of soldiers: 60+, lol.

[@ldhorricks]

there is no argument (other than in Putin's worm ridden brain) that Ukraine is a sovereign nation... and as such...it's internationally recognised borders have been aggressively violated by the revanchist Kremlin Mob. Calling this an argument is incredibly obtuse.

[@ohsweetmystery]

Sheep to the $laughter.

[@maryanchabursky9148]

One old man arguing with reality from his kremlin bunker

[@trqster]

Poor young ukranian men....what a tragedy!

[@objectiveobserver-yi4by]

Blinkin' and yellin' don't win wars.

[@oliverwilliam6931]

Russia has the right to defend itself

[@maryanchabursky9148]

From what Ukraine existing?

[@kristiekuok9162]

Absolutely agree with you.

[@vangelisskia214]

"It will work" said the purely biased British analyst. Wishful thinking at its best... On the other hand Marina is probably the only realistic analyst appearing on this channel...

[@maryanchabursky9148]

So conscripting more soldiers won’t work? It worked for ruSSia to stabilise the line, why not for Ukraine?

[@vangelisskia214]

@@maryanchabursky9148 Russia has 3 times the population of Ukraine. And that's pre 2014 numbers, because some millions of ex Ukrainians are now fighting against... Ukraine! So Russia has almost 4 times the numbers. Other than that, right now most Ukrainians are being forcibly recruited, while in Russia most are volunteers. This is easily explained by psychlogy. People who, simply put it, feel that they are winning are also more motivated, while Ukrainians who understand they are loosing and fear that the worst is yet to come see no reason to fight and die for a lost cause... The Ukrainian government made by law the lenght of service required unlimited. People who already fight for years are not happy to hear that.. Such an army can not win this war againt Russia. This is nothing more than realism...

[@jesusaguilar4585]

​​@@maryanchabursky9148 It won't work because conscripted soldiers never wanted to voluntarily serve in the first place and they now know that they will never be leaving the front. With Russia, the mobilized troops were sent to extensive training while the front lines were being fortified with construction crews using heavy machinery.

[@jesusaguilar4585]

I agree with your assessment on Marina's analysis. She's the only one that's been consistently based on reality.

[@OGTK00]

​​@@maryanchabursky9148Imagine thinking those forced conscripts won't simply surrender the first chance they get. They already know russian anyway so all they have to do is shout "we give up" and that is the end of it. It is not like in other wars where the language barrier could pose problems.

[@deltaphaseplutonium-ho8nh]

To the last Ukrainian without Klichkos kids.

[@SkyDiver-wd5oj]

Klitchko kids are German now. He said so, too.

[@invictoveritas3956]

7:00 watch from that point . She explained perfectly how the things are developing .

[@jamesortiz5388]

They would rather commit serious crimes to stay in prison where at least they're alive.

[@petrwindmeijer7542]

Gonzalo lyra,

[@maryanchabursky9148]

Nope, no change in crime

[@petrwindmeijer7542]

@@maryanchabursky9148 less polulation and no rise ? Poland is done with the ukraine mob.

[@onee1594]

Problem it's not really that easy to refuse and go to jail. Many men are illegally kept in "mobilization facility" and sometimes even tortured or threatened by hurt being done to their loved ones until they sign documents...

[@JessicaD.-vb9ho]

It was the dumbest idea not to negotiate and prevent war with Russia in the first place, like did anyone really think they ever stood a chance.

[@thegreatdane3627]

no solution could have been negotiated. Putin wants to expand his empire, that is all the war is about.

[@fahman3422]

​@@thegreatdane3627 War started cause Ukraine decided to become usa's lapdog and tried to join nato. Now they just destroyed their country thinking they can win with outsider aid

[@engliterra355]

there was Minsk that Western leaders were never going to follow as they openly said themselves. Any agreememnt with the west and its puppets is not worth the paper

[@mgronich948]

No, Ukraine did not have a chance OR a choice. In April 2022, Russia and Ukraine almost had a peace deal. Until Boris Johnson flew in. But after the US/UK vetoed the peace deal, those in Zelensky's govt who sought peace were rounded up by the secret police, who are supervised by the CIA. Ukrainians wanted peace. But the CIA controls all parts of the Ukrainian govt. And the US aid pays the salaries of all the Ukrainian govt workers. The plan all along was to sacrifice the Ukraine people to as Lindsey Graham said to kill Russians.

[@claus-not-santa]

@@thegreatdane3627When have you been in Russia last time? Or from where you know what Putin wants?

[@Fiercygoat]

If Enlgish military experts are getting this negative about the situation then situation must really be bad

[@Brasscoatedcandy]

The U.K has already been conquered. I guess they needed an expert on how to lose your country.

[@paulneufarn]

The ukrainian soldiers should surrender and protect their own lives and not fight for the US Administration and the EU and NATO. USA und EU sacrifice Ukraine for theire own interests 😢😢😢😢😢

[@Wredd60]

Give up Ukraine

[@thegreatdane3627]

why would they? It will be even worse for Ukraine under russian rule...

[@Wredd60]

@@thegreatdane3627 I don't care I don't want any more of my tax dollars going to them

[@juanvga]

Rusia has no ammunition. April 2022 😅😅😅😅😅

[@gmwizz]

Time for peace and negotiation, no more deaths !

[@maryanchabursky9148]

Tried that didn’t work. Next suggestion?

[@user-wb2bu8br7g]

@@maryanchabursky9148 capitulation. Europeans can teach Ukrainians.

[@maryanchabursky9148]

@@user-wb2bu8br7g absolutely not that will only make things worse. Next suggestion?

[@univeropa3363]

"Make peace, you fools! What else can you do?

[@hunterphung3638]

tell Putin to get out of Ukraine. communist propagandist

[@rouz0]

There will be no peace unless they accept everything Russia says. The people in power are detached from reality. They lost the opportunities for a more favorable term. Zelnskey is in one month no more officially the president of Ukraine.

[@Paul-yh8km]

Bot.

[@vagabond919]

Many young and productive generations have died because of the stupidity of their leader.

[@rouz0]

@@Paul-yh8km this bot seems to be far samrter than you 😄

[@tryiealexrampiao4783]

The politicians and Zelenskyy should be on front line,

[@spipo1903]

equality down the drain suddenly men become important

[@marianasalles242]

Heart breaking this war 🥺😞💔

[@manashmahanta77]

Washington's pawns.

[@eliotness4029]

pupets

[@tkkape]

I don't want to imagine getting beat by 10 guys with shovels.

[@miket8909]

They realized back in the day that no breaks from the front line would leave men shell shocked with crippling PTSD. These women expecting husbands to return the same man are sadly mistaken

[@FunnyBunny-pd5xx]

After WWII, too many wives suffered due to their respective husbands horrific experiences. Once seen, one cannot un-see.

[@duncansmith7562]

i just wonder, in retrospect, if Oleksander would have been ok with letting Donbass join Russia and Ukraine remain a neutral country.

[@munirothsok164]

No country can support Ukraine war forever because each country has their own problems. Peace talk is the best solution for Ukraine.

[@et2709]

why even support such a corrupt regime in the first place

[@trevorsutherland5263]

The reason returning POWs get an exemption is because the terms of their release was that they never fight again. Russia has all their names; if they are caught fighting again they'll either be shot or imprisoned for a decade. Many AFU in Avdiivka were former POWs and when the city was encircled they could not escape so they huddled in the coking plant and Russia had to basically delete them as they wouldn't surrender.

[@lamchunting856]

The rich and well connected ones don’t have to serve, those are limits.

[@pcnchannel5368]

these so called experts from Kings College in London, have been consistent since the start, consistently wrong 🤣

[@Yesai-cj2mt]

Dr Marina Miron is the best

[@joeylopez7978]

At this rate the men will overthrow Zelensky before they win back any territory.

[@theshadowman1398]

Front is already collapsing. Russia is sprinting westwards

[@thegreatdane3627]

Russia has captured less territory in the last 6 months than Ukraine did during their offensive last year...

[@theshadowman1398]

@@thegreatdane3627 Utter bullcrap. Ukraine got one deserted village in Zaparozhje and Russia now got whole pockets of land

[@claus-not-santa]

@@thegreatdane3627Why you not change your Nick to reality and call yourself thenaivedane??

[@thegreatdane3627]

Russia has captured 0,04% of Ukraine in the last 6 months. Ukraine liberated 0,08% during their offensive. Feel free to fact check me on that 😉

[@claus-not-santa]

@@thegreatdane3627 I will not use even a single second on your fairy tales!! This what Ukrainiane have „liberated“ are areas russian troops had withdrawn from after announcing the withdrawal one week in advance! You live in your Danish dreamworld and should better read fairytales from your H. C. Andersen instead of writing nonsense!! As far as I know 20% of Ukraine already is gone for ever and every day it will be more in very short time!!

[@Jim-nt7xy]

Of course, politicians don't have any skin in the game.

[@abdulramaniibrahim7408]

To the last Ukrainian is working, and this fools are not thinking deep

[@mzee5533]

The reality of the war is Ukraine 🇺🇦 is losing big time despite the silence from the western side

[@maryanchabursky9148]

😂😂😂 Ukraine failed summer offensive gained 0.85% of territory at and close to even loss ratio. ruSSias offensive have gained 0.04% of territory at a massively disproportionate loss ratio (to look at the visually confirmed loss statistics).

[@stiannunn5113]

@@maryanchabursky9148 😂🤣

[@maryanchabursky9148]

@@stiannunn5113 indeed

[@et2709]

@@maryanchabursky9148 Uke lost on the first day just face it. No use to deny.

[@maryanchabursky9148]

@@et2709 no need to deny a complete and obvious fiction. How has Ukraine lost? Interesting that no one who claims this can provide a good reason.

[@rouz0]

It is madness and morally wrong these men will not get even enough training and ammunition

[@David-gy6fv]

Brothers same families fighting, Ukraina vs Russia Israel vs Palestina China vs Taiwan N.Korea vs S. Korea N.Sudan vs S. Sudan. India vs Pakistan Ethiopia vs Eritrea

[@user-hp8fo9bz3x]

The United States acts as a spoiler

[@hirenthanki2932]

Not sure if Indians see Pakistanis as brothers. We have huge differences.

[@fulltank360]

Friends when turned enemies tend to be bitter most...

[@goodintentions5189]

​@@hirenthanki2932 It's not how you think, it's the Truth. Indian DNA closest to Pakistani DNA

[@hirenthanki2932]

@@goodintentions5189 may be, but I am Indian. Pakistan is just too different from us. We do not see them as brothers. And I am sure they do not see us as brothers most probably.

[@markusdee6136]

Same "war experts" that have been saying Ukraine is winning just a year ago now saying that Ukraine is desperate. lol

[@2532robh1]

I thought the Ghost of Kiev won the victory and Russia was out of missiles a year ago and the Leopards came.

[@comeniusja6563]

Totally unnecessary war fought in benefit of foreign corporations destroys the Eastern Europe. However, there is unfortunately no power to stop it, despite the dangerous risk of escalation and the following catastrophic effect resulting from prolonged conflict especially for Europe. Division of that country on two parts according the ethnicity of its inhabitants seems to be the best solution of this situation, since the pragmatic approach is always far better than fanaticism or unrealistic expectations.

[@selam1353]

Does the forced registration include all politicians as well? Since they are also part of the country.

[@tomaszszkolny6169]

At least men in the EU can enjoy ukrainian women...

[@claus-not-santa]

They have nice saying: NO money........NO honey!!!! It is only this begging monk ZielinsKnie who wants alms free of charge..........

[@stiannunn5113]

😂🤣

[@et2709]

In Canada too. While they are dating, their hubbies...which is the reality!

[@C0nqueeftador]

No feminism in war time

[@xena2559]

Idiocracy at its best

[@user-wg7bb3kp7z]

Ukraine is taking horrific losses that's why their looking for fresh meat

[@d.g.990]

Perhaps Ukraine and Russia should negotiate an end to this war instead of continually throwing men into a meat grinder.

[@badbeatslayer]

Martin is no expert. Guy is clueless.

[@blueishxx]

what's a worse case scenario , ask that , get an answer , that was inevitable , so much death for nothing