Ultimate Admiral: Dreadnought - Capital Ship Tournament Predictions

[@Drachinifel]

Pinned post for Q&A :)

[@brendonbewersdorf986]

Is there any chance we could get an analysis of the other swedish coastal defense ships? The svere class gets alot of attention but they had atleast 2 other classes active in WW2 if I recall correctly

[@SeveralWeezelsInaTrenchcoat]

Are sailing ships useful in the modern age as training ships like the Amerigo Vespucci or they are a waste of resources, what do you think?

[@jakemillar649]

In the title of your video on the first USS Essex, you describe it as the ‘Bane of Whalers’. Probably the most famous whaleship was also called Essex, AND both Essex’s were launched in 1799. My question is, what are some other examples of ship naming coincidences?

[@ywe3]

I think we need a drydock segment about historical punishments while on board ship from keelhauling to bread and water

[@battleship217]

Any info on the use of astronavigation in the 1900s?

[@matthiasm4299]

Obviously, Drach failed to take the divine wind into account when evaluating Kongo, it will carry us to victory! 🇯🇵

[@briannicholas2757]

Divine wind? Is that when the Emperor passes gas? Lol

[@carlosmarquez5901]

@@briannicholas2757 Kamikaze = Divine Wind (not actually related with the suicide guys)

[@briannicholas2757]

@@carlosmarquez5901 I was just making a joke. 😉

[@HMSConqueror]

it will take you up in the air when it explodes hahaha

[@f12mnb]

Drach - you said "Close enough for government work..." - is that a British saying?

[@BrotherMunro]

It has been massively fun working on this with you and I’m incredibly excited for people to get to see what we’ve been working on.

[@darthimperious8661]

I’m also excited

[@nickyevdokymov5526]

That, that here is the most glorious collab of two my most beloved channels on all freaking KZbin!!!!! Shall this brotherhood stand strong forever!

[@mpersad]

Really looking forward to the videos you guys put out. Excited!!

[@avl4005]

Saw your name on a couple of videos. Drachinifel sealed the deal. Subscribed

[@speed150mph]

Drach. Now that UA:D has a campaign, I don’t think I’m alone in begging you to stream a campaign. I for one would be would love to see one of KZbin’s finest naval historians designing his own ships and managing his own navy.

[@Frostfly]

The campaigns are SUPER broken. You can win the first one with just battleships in under a year game time. I'd love to see them be worth the effort, but they just aren't yet.

[@battleship217]

@@Frostfly 1930s and 1940s seen to have an odd glitch where the enemy can get infinite money

[@Hiiiiii74]

@@Frostfly what about Rule the Waves 2?

[@bewawolf19]

@@Frostfly I found the most "meta" way to quickly win a campaign is build nothing but maxed out battlecruisers and whatever meme armament you want and you'll win. Still haven't done an only torpedo version yet, but with how strong torpedo's are in the game I imagine it is going to dominate.

[@Frostfly]

@@Hiiiiii74 sounds like a totally different game

[@chronus4421]

We totally need multiplayer in Dreadnoughts, also custom missions that can be sent across the web.

[@Self-replicating_whatnot]

You can't just "add multiplayer". If Ultimate Admiral: Dreadnought wasn't built with it in mind from the ground up, chances are there will never be one.

[@shayminthedoctor9663]

That may be true, but a mission designer isn't that far fetched in my opinion You can't do proper multiplayer, but you could have a scenario with a custom ship to fight...

[@HMSConqueror]

and historical builds to test your paper bb

[@HalIOfFamer]

@@Self-replicating_whatnot devs said that if it is ever considered it's gonna be after launch and only if game is successful. They have major development issues but they picked up the pace recently. I think 1.0 is possible late 2023

[@matthmaroo1984]

@@HalIOfFamer late 23?

[@craigfazekas3923]

Mr. Drach- would you consider doing some videos concerning naval camouflage amongst the main protagonists of WWII ? This, certainly, is a wide spectrum subject.... In order to break it down a bit ? Possibly focus on each navy (Great Britain, Germany, USA, Japan, Italy & France) & their beliefs, attendant studies & findings, utilizations in specific theaters, and results. (or lack of....) Or in any way that you see as practicable to break down the subject of camo given the different naval approaches in trying to gain effectiveness in the era of WWII and just prior.... I find it to be an interesting subject, and would like to learn via Drachonian Naval Studies..... I hope you'd consider such !! Keep up the great work & when you come to America ? I am ideally situated in the mid-Atlantic with my family. With Philly, D.C., Baltimore, Annapolis and both the Delaware & Chesapeake Bays close by. We'd love to put you up if you're in need of a place to stay if you're in our region, on the Delmarva Peninsula. Do think about it, chief- the offer is there !! 🚬😎

[@igoryst3049]

i think the Italian Navy aerial recognition stripes are the most stylish camouflage pattern

[@GaryJones69420]

Nice to see you collab with a smaller youtuber like BrotherMunro.

[@davydovua]

Also, an update has been announced, coming up early next week, it should allow editing hull's beam and draft manually. That would give quite a bit more freedom and precision in designing replicas of historical ships

[@Antiquitycar]

A great cooperation of the great technical historian and a great tactical player. Love to see it!

[@gvii]

I'm actually really excited for this game to flesh out a bit more. I'll probably pick it up sooner rather than later, but ever since I caught wind of it, I was very geeked about it. It's an incredibly interesting period of naval warfare that really hasn't been touched on much in video games. I haven't dove too deeply into the forums and whatnot, but the devs do seem genuinely interested in getting it as right as they can. The fact that you can design your own ships is a really nice touch as well. One I am sure to thoroughly muck up to no end, but it will be fun anyway.

[@AdamMGTF]

I enjoyed the early UAD videos. More so than the warships game where you got a little... Distracted. Lol It was a nice chance to see a ship being "designed" while learning your thinking :)

[@janmcconnel1118]

I could have happily sat here and looked at that photo of Renoun for a long, long time. Just love the look of that beauty. Large size , a nice ballanced profile; good armament , good speed ,the only thing she misses is that forth gun turret. What a beauty....

[@mashurface]

Hey Drac! Tex of the Black Pants Legion made an off-hand comment on one of his UA: Ds streams that he'd be up for a collab with you to try and make the worst possible warships and see who can fail harder. Is that something you'd be interested in?

[@dodobird679]

Yo you got a heart from drach, this actually has a chance. hypehypehype

[@nath9091]

Yay another BPL fan! Them and the Courtesy Flush are really chilled channels where friends just play games together.

[@admiraltiberius1989]

Always love your work sir, you are indeed one of the Emperors finest.

[@derarbeitslosehaider203]

Big smile at that Intro, idk why. Love your work!

[@GuusvanVelthoven]

I tried to identify all the ships you showed at the beginning of this episode and that set me thinking it might be fun if you made some sort of quiz for us. 🤔😊

[@_hench__5251]

This reminds me of playing Naval Ops Warship gunner on PlayStation 2 back in the day. Definitely gonna check this out. Great channel Drach!

[@karlthekillergamer]

Fun Friday that doesn't involve dystopian wars? The gods have spoken!

[@lezardvaleth2304]

Well, I never thought I'd ever need to turn to Drach's channel for tips on my betting pool, but here we are.

[@harryrogers2874]

Videos been out 14 minutes and I’ve watched it😁😁

[@crazywarriorscatfan9061]

Nice! I wasn't expecting to see you with UAD

[@emilkarpo]

LOL I remember playing a MS DOS based simulation called Action Stations. It was purely graphical, to set up your simulated battle you needed to first lay it out on graph paper with a protractor and other instruments. then set the start positions and formations in the program. Ship characteristics could be customized. And then you started it turn by turn. It was really a lot of fun. Then along came Harpoon.

[@sadwingsraging3044]

Good to see you having a bit of fun Drach.

[@GenStallion]

You know a navy is serious when the guns reach relativistic speeds.

[@pjthehomelessmage]

Hey so I made the Thunderchild as described in a previous video in UA Dreadnought and it was very tricky but worked. You could try making it for a video also.

[@danhaas9730]

Did you use one of the French ironclad hulls?

[@pjthehomelessmage]

@@danhaas9730 It probably was. I clicked unlock on all hulls and parts and looked for the hull that fit best. Then worked around that. It was tricky but not impossible. I can’t wait for future updates so that more can be done creatively.

[@pjthehomelessmage]

@@danhaas9730 it was the 1900 French light cruiser 2 hull

[@pjthehomelessmage]

@@danhaas9730 sorry went back and looked it was 1900 ironclad battleship 3

[@Spartaner627]

Years ago a naval expert in the highly realistic naval battle simulator World of Warships yelled at me from the sinking leftovers of USS New York that battleships with torpedoes are overpowered so obviously Scharnhorst has to win :) Also German science is the best in the world. I read that in a meme so it also has to be true.

[@kumaflamewar6524]

tbf in this game battleships with torpedoes are absolutely OP. if the AI is in control and they just dive in close those torps will be decisive.

[@Artem_Shepelev]

@@kumaflamewar6524 Strasbourg, Kongo and Renown are quite fast. It can be difficult to run them down. Unless they are controlled by AI and it decides to get closer

[@RedRocket4000]

You got a fail then as most everyone took the torpedoes off their Battleships during the period.

[@GARDENER42]

Surely factoring the various fire control systems & the accuracy of the guns is pretty much essential for any kind of comparison?

[@toddwebb7521]

Especially in this glass cannon class

[@AdamMGTF]

But then how do you factor in ammo quality control? Not to mention crew training/how rested they are. How physically fit they are. The quality of metallurgy and what if the workers building the guns/ammo/supplies were slave labour and trying to sabotage things like was common in ww2 Germany. The only way to do something like this is with sweeping generality and a focus on fun. learning is a wonderful by product. I don't think drach hides this.

[@GARDENER42]

@@AdamMGTF None of what you mention are actually physical attributes of the ships, whereas fire control & gun accuracy are.

[@AdamMGTF]

@@GARDENER42 so the metallurgy isn't relevant? Nor is the skills of thoes building the ship? If the quality of the ammunition is irrelevant then I agree. That doesn't impact the ship itself (pun intended). But only if the ships are ramming eachother. What about the chemical industry in the building nation. I mean it's only important if the ship is designed to use an explosive charge to send the shell out the gun. Come to think of it. What about the fuseing system on the shell? I'd say that's important. Oh, and its shape. I mean. We aren't talking round shot. We can agree I am sure that the ship needs a crew. Let's forget quantity. We'll try quality. If it's not important then let's crew the ship with three types of people. 70+ year olds. They can sight the guns. We'll use normal military regects to handle the ammunition. Who cares if they have had polio or are missing a leg. That won't be an issue. As for the officers. Well they need to be able to think quickly..let's get teenagers. No decline inemtal faculties there. Let's have them crew a brand new top of the range destroyer, let's say a Fletcher class. We'll be generous and give it torpedoes. Of course they were built by slave labour who left out the detonators but let's not get bogged down with that. Commanded by a person suffering a serious mental health brakedown and an inexperienced dockworker replaced the engine lubricant oil with cooking oil (don't think it can happen? Ask the French in 1940) Against this 1945 destroyer with radar and shiney paint we have...... HMS Southampton... As she was at Jutland. With a superb crew. Built at the technological peak of the British empire. She's hopelessly out of date. Who would win? If we choose speed, protection and ability to sink other ships. Then the destroyer wins. Would it happen No. That's my point. You can't pick and choose circumstances. You either accept a broad generalisation and agree this is fun and or a learning exercise. Or accept it's not possible to compare one apple to another.

[@GARDENER42]

@@AdamMGTF If we go down your route, we'll need to know the molecular composition of the sea they're sailing in. FCS & gun accuracy are fundamentals, whilst you're arguing variable minutiae.

[@Angrymuscles]

I know it would be a bit redundant, but I'd love to see something like a 1930s-era USS West Virginia or USS Tennessee versus a year appropriate opponent, then that same opponent not being upgraded at all but fighting the end-war versions of West Virginia or Tennessee. To see exactly how much difference the upgrades would make if any.

[@jefferynelson]

A scenario with Drach playing & screaming like a foul mouthed person playing Call of Duty just unraveled in my head. I'll still be laughing about it next week !

[@agesflow6815]

Thank you, Drachinifel.

[@ywe3]

Finally we can test the battles that never were in a historical context

[@wrightsublette1701]

I'm excited to see the impending match ups. Any chance for the alternate battle of Denmark Strait ? Cheers Drac, - wright

[@billbolton]

A single malt, and a fun Friday.... excellent.

[@IIIJG52]

Oh my i always wanted you and UA:D . love it already

[@antonhengst8667]

Drach in UAD??? Excellent!!

[@Feraligono]

Whatever the outcome, Haruna will be all right.

[@JackMarslow]

Drach, have you played the campaign yet? Quite interested to see what you have to say about it as you are very learned on what it takes to run a navy. I have high hopes for this game!

[@DamianMaisano]

I wonder if the amount of belt that Scharnhorst has (in reference to the debate of thickness) will play a factor.

[@Pardinas82]

Waithing for this since the release of the game

[@AshCrevan]

watching Drach for past 2 years got me super into Steam era naval aspects (previously only knowledgeable about modern era) and when I found UA:Dreadnought, I got good at it quick all because of DRACH, when I watch his vids I want to play it lol

[@frankjones5948]

I've always wondered how the Nelson class would fair against the Yamato. Is there anyway you could please simulate that one of these days?

[@Ethan-iv8fs]

Yay! BrotherM is great!

[@piritskenyer]

Yay to the 13" warp-speed canons!

[@kryts27]

I'm a bit skeptical of gaming capital battleship (or battlecruiser) against each other to what happens in reality. I'm assuming that geophysical effects like curvature due to firing over a very long range due to the Coriolis force is taken into account (in the game). From memory, much ship on ship action was historically undertaken, during this era, by far less than ideal seeing conditions. Whether is was the time of the day (or night), the weather seeing conditions being obsured by rain, fog, sleet or snow. Can we add the highly variable wind into the equation in deviating shell fire? Let alone the state of the sea (plenty of waves there, varying with weather conditions or swell), on ships that mostly did not have stabilizers inbuilt into the hull. Funny enough, much gun ranging equipment was still being achived by sighting, even in WW2 (through prisms and lenses, but still requiring fire control personnel to see the target to acquire a firing solution), radar range finding only came late into WW2.

[@antoninuspius1747]

As someone who has run simulations and even dabbled in programming (albeit nothing to do with warships, it was American football games) I'd be really curious if you are running multiple simulations for each scenario and what the spectrum of the outcomes are. For example, ship A beats ship B 91% of the time, but in 8% of the remaining 9% ship B sunk ship A with only 3 rounds. That might be a big ask and I have no idea if the software does that sort of thing. Or is it given the gazinta's, the gazouttas are always the same?

[@Lord.Kiltridge]

Was wondering how long it would be before Drach said something about UAD.

[@seanm8030]

One thing about this game is figuring out the turret locations on the "dot" system it has is hard to replicate. Meaning, if one has a design one likes it's hard to do the same thing twice to repeat it. It would be nice if there were coordinates or dimensions on the screen as a "heads up" type display.

[@antonhengst8667]

Designs are saved & can be copied now

[@seanm8030]

@@antonhengst8667 Yes. That's a helpful feature. It would still be good to have ship dimensions noted when placing things, similar to a CAD program.

[@loki244ti]

By holding shift you can place things outside of the "dots"

[@seanm8030]

@@loki244ti Yes. It would still be good to have the dimensions noted when placing items so that one can repeat a design.

[@ushaw9]

So does this program let you build the G3 and J3 designs that were cancelled after the Washington Naval treaty? I would like to see that.

[@Drachinifel]

Yes it does :)

[@ushaw9]

@@Drachinifel Please do that.

[@alifio2183]

I'm the proponent of All Guns Forward configuration. But instead of quad 2x turret i used 3 triple turrets all facing forward. It is immune to "Cross the T" thingy since u only need to angle 30⁰ to fire all guns. The armor is significantly thicker front as the aft armor and deck r thin. Speed? 32 knots or at least fast enough to chase most of battleships. I used such config for capital ships to finish the german campaign till the end :) I wish if such competition exist someone followed same doctrine as me and prove my point. Its likely i can't join becoz me, as german main had committed Seeräuberai 🏴‍☠️..... -Follower of Koenig im luftrevier song

[@bogdanvino]

> 9:00 not taking into account think like that the Renown was a particularly crack gunnery ship, and the differences between the crews What do you mean? Ship's pitch, roll, smoke interference and weight offsets all affect its firing accuracy in UA:D. And crews can have different training levels, affecting everything from firing accuracy and speed to damage control.

[@RedRocket4000]

Well for this I assume the going to set crews to same training level to take that out of equation. Reminds of trying to debate superior ships in age of sail vs Britain when having the same crew quality quite unlikely except Dutch or insignificant American vs British. The superior French 74 Ship of the Line the standard later size vs the British SOL yes the French had the superior ship and the British preferred them if captured. But French Gunnery and ship handling rarely equaled British and never on the fleet basis although one brilliant French Admiral won around India with superior tactics and strategy. So comparing other ships of each fleet much harder. The French victory allowing the US victory at Yorktown because the British had to try to beat an already anchored fleet in mouth of a river. Rigged for battle anchors which could be set to allow ship rotation and steadied the ships for fire were great advantages in the age of sail. Different from just caught at normal anchor which was a disaster for ships.

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

I love the warp speed guns description oft he Strasbourg lmao

[@WayneBorean]

Silly question, but does it model national bursting charge differences?

[@caranorn]

Two problems I've had so far is: 1) I found it impossible to build a ship with similar capacities as the Queen and R-classes as Britain. I was not trying to rebuild the classes exactly (I could not, I simply don't have the knowledge) but some general concepts. One thing missing was a hull template of appropriate tonnage that has casematte secondary batteries. Also I could not get the speed those classes had without seriously upping tonnage. But again, I'm no expert, but there were definitely no casemattes for the WWI British. 2) The ai builds horribly bad ships (but then it's an ai for a complex game), so far I often went up against 12in armed ships with my now super heavy 23ish knot ships, my reductions in armour to save tonnage did not even seem to matter. My last attempts at the game (so far) I always went 4 vs 4 ships, the lead ship and sometimes the second would often take significant damage, but the enemy would be destroyed utterly. But this game/simulator is definitely promising.

[@Shadooe]

"... close enough for Gov't work." HAHA I haven't heard that in ages.

[@RossEphgrave]

When you delve deeper into the Strasburg class ships they were very well balanced and quite capable. Too bad they never had a chance to prove it out. I would stack them up against any comparable ships on paper.

[@mgjmiller1995]

A WWII scenario that's crossed my mind numerous times: what if more of the French Navy had ignored Germany's terms and/or escaped to the French Caribbean possessions/then-neutral US. I like to think Dunkerque, Strasbourg, or Richilieu could have contributed to the Home Fleet (alternate Bismarck chase, anyone?), but I also think a lacking American ineptitude could have meant SS Normandie (USS Lafayette) would have been a troopship alongside the Cunard Queens. The ability to move an additional 15,000 troops in just one vessel movement would have been CRITICAL in amassing forces for an eventual allied invasion of Europe (D-Day)!

[@RedRocket4000]

@@mgjmiller1995 Maybe even help out US surface fleet in key battles in the Slot or the British vs Japan. Them vs Italy be fun but I think Italy might stay out of the war if French as well as British warships in the Med.

[@SladesShitboxGarage]

My predictions on paper are. 1.Scharnhorst 2.Renown 3.Strasbourg 4.Andrea Doria 5.Kongō

[@thevictoryoverhimself7298]

It’s not quite a fair fight but I would like to see the Iowa class vs Tirpitz fight that very nearly happened

[@birlyballop4704]

Very nearly happened? When, where, how etc?

[@thevictoryoverhimself7298]

@@birlyballop4704 Before the X-craft damaged tirpitz the first deployment of USS New Jersey and USS Iowa was planned to be a north atlantic patrol to keep tirpitz in his Fjord or sink him. After that, sail back to california fix whatever broke and begin anti japan activities.

[@PointyHairedJedi]

I was rather hoping you'd look at this game!

[@alt7488]

any plans to do recreations of the german h class battleships?

[@nukkinfuts6550]

Bismarck vs Hood!? or post Dreadnought´s are not allowed? If so i want a Ironclad Dreadnought with Dreadnought Combat Weapon, Siege Drills and dual flamers, nvm the HKM`s..

[@andygeary3531]

What a pleasure!

[@inyobill]

How many times will the engagements be run to average out "lucky" hits, etc.?

[@jeebus6263]

I haven't been this early since the kamchatka was potentially a good idea.

[@nnoddy8161]

For the future (perhaps)? Arizona vs Nagato Renown vs Scharnhorst Richilieu vs Bismarck Rodney vs Bismarck Vanguard vs Tirpitz

[@ycplum7062]

If you are running AI vs AI simulations, you may need to run 200 simulations for each match. That way, you can report the percentage of wins for each match up.

[@andygeary3531]

200?! With 5 ships in each division fighting each other, that's 2000 battles, and 4 divisions, that's 8000 battles! Good luck getting them results before the game is fully released lol

[@ycplum7062]

@@andygeary3531 Not familiar with the game, but if it is AI vs AI and you simply want to know who wins without actually show move by move, shot by shot, it should be fast.

[@andygeary3531]

@@ycplum7062 sadly you can't put the battle speed above x5 and so each battle would take approx 20 mins AI controlled. 8000 battles x 20mins = is 266 hours lol

[@ycplum7062]

@@andygeary3531 Maybe get volunteers to run battles? Technically, it is an AI vs AI battle so there really isn't a set up. Just report the results.

[@kkupsky6321]

USS Splendid. I appreciate your nostalgia tho. Ok fun now…

[@josephlongbone4255]

Considering that this tier is mainly Battlecruisers, you could put Hood in here for a Laugh...

[@neki0playz12]

Gameing.

[@ginoc44]

What they heck are they taking a sight of at sunset? Not dark enough for any stars yet.

[@enoughrope1638]

I really wanted Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts to have a multiplayer gameplay mode like World of Warships.

[@pegzounet]

Not a difficult call to make, renown should win. The game favors big guns, and british will get excellent fire control as well.

[@TheCaptainbeefylog]

Looks like I have to spend money on another game. Thanks Drach! (Wifey frowns)

[@GunRunner106]

's interessting how it's strassbourg and not dunkirk on the one side but scharnhorst over gneisenau on the other (assuming 15" gun gneisenau ofcs...)

[@Drachinifel]

It's because Scharnhorst was the last surviving example of her class and if she hadn't gone down in '43, would almost certainly have finished the war with her 11" guns.

[@george_364]

@@Drachinifel But then again, early on you state that it is 1945 configuration, and by then Gneisenau would have had the 15 inch guns if she existed. Which leads into my main comment/question: why 1945 assumed versions where all ships were in existence and operating in the 1940-1942 period.

[@llllib]

To be honest, Strasbourg and Scharnhorst should dominate because they will have most modern hulls and superstructures and guns and other tech niceties. This means they should start hitting over longest distance. Between those two, it kind of depends at their rate of fire, even if Scharnhorst guns are weaker, because with more and more hits the accuracy of the target ships will decrease. And then it also depends on how the battle goes and if Scharnhorst gets into torpedo range.

[@nineonine9082]

1:01 For that subtle reference =P

[@Ccccccccccsssssssssss]

heck yeah this game is great!

[@kkupsky6321]

Why does everyone think the Bismarck is cool? And does smaller stature help ones head below deck? I think I really cussed my con on battleship New Jersey. Why would you name them after Iowa? It’s not the massive shoreline.

[@Ebolson1019]

me forgetting today is friday until now

[@Robert53area]

Oh I do this all the time, try amagi vs KGV those were interesting

[@jamesmaclennan4525]

Man were you wrong about the Andrea Doria.

[@DimBeam1]

Allied Axis Capitol ships differencein ability to stay at sea (Provisions, cabin area, redundant crew etc)

[@Rarius]

UA:D REALLY needs a PvP mode.

[@wildward93]

In the 1930s UK campaign I made a Modernized Dreadnought I hull with an all-forwards triple superfiring quad 14-inch cannons, and 7 quad 22-inch torpedo tubes aft. This game is glorious.

[@jonathanallard2128]

Come in the fray guns blazing and then escape with torpedoes covering?

[@wildward93]

@@jonathanallard2128 yup. All up firepower for the majority of a battle, and if disengaging or especially if circling a crippled capital ship, unleash kingdom come.

[@jonathanallard2128]

@@wildward93 nice

[@camaronconcolaadweedgers2117]

Ey Bro...Cheers now video ¡!!!

[@bradhartliep879]

#Drachnifel : "You're not gonna put Iowa vs Congo - that woudl be silly" .. #Taffy3 , #USSJohnson and #CaptainErnestEvans : You've never heard of the #BattleOfSamar have you ..

[@-Castial-]

You should make more videos like this

[@lumpusmaximus8257]

Game has wonderful potential... but currently has an abominable AI and a very borked ship construction menu :/ And don't get me started on the way the game handles torpedos... I'm watching one of BrotherMunro's replays now and the AI will spin a ship around 180 degrees on the square area of a dime in less than 5 seconds to avoid your torps while they spam the entire ocean with theirs :(

[@andygeary3531]

This is not a torpedo dodging problem, it's a problem with how the game handles engine damage. The speed of the ship slows ridiculously fast when it's engines get taken out, but the turning speed is not affected, resulting in very silly psychics mechanics, but only in the occasion mentioned. I'm pretty sure that the devs will fix this before the game is fully released.

[@lumpusmaximus8257]

@@andygeary3531 More issues than that. Seen too many replays where the AI knows there are player torps in the water almost instantly 5k+ away and will do instant U-turns in the water (engines all undamaged)

[@andygeary3531]

@@lumpusmaximus8257 well the player and AI have the same detection radius, so if you reduce it for the AI then you will also be reducing it for the player. Obviously the AI has the benefit of being able to multitask, having eyes everywhere and being able to react immediately. But the AI is also terrible at choosing when to shoot their own torpedoes, launching at max range and so missing their own shots all of the time too (as long as the player is capable at torpedo dodging). So it evens itself out. Maybe you think that torpedo spotting range should be reduced by both player and AI to make it more historically accurate, which is a fair opinion, but this will only result in players complaining that they don't have enough time to react to torpedoes, and considering a lot of players already find it hard to dodge torpedoes, I can't see how this would be an improvement to the game. Also the current system of torpedo spotting has many variables which make balancing even harder- Tower torpedo spotting Acoustics Torpedo type Torpedo size So maybe there is a case to 'dumb it down' to make balancing easier, or possibly put a cap at the max spotting range, but whatever changes you make to nerf the AI will also nerf the player. You could add an artificial nerf just to the AI, but imo giving nerfs/boosts to the AI to manufacture an uneven playing field is bad practice in any game. Not to mention that most experienced players beat the campaigns either losing 1-2 ships or none at all, do you really think nerfing the AI is a good idea when the game is already too easy to win? Personally I think the devs have created a fantastic game, and no matter what balance changes they make, there will be those that think they were an improvement and those that don't.

[@triplemad7374]

Most people who play this game I've noticed build WW2 'battleships' yet when I look at the screenshots of the games marketing i.e. Steam they are all actual 'dreadnoughts'. So no ones playing the game properly???

[@jatzi1526]

The citadel system in the game isn't good enough yet to warrant this kind of tournament. In the future perhaps. It's gonna happen anyways though so I'd like to see this happen again in the future when the ship designer is better. If it gets better.

[@plasmaburndeath]

But can't you give Andrea Doria PLOT ARMOUR? Dun-Dun---DUUUN!

[@graveyard1979]

I had this kind of matches done for MN Massena vs HMS Majestic. Spoiler alert - Massena lost. Three times of four.

[@ericpigeon6179]

Please don t run the battle only once in the game.It s a drag, but it will average out lucky shoots.

[@jaredmcfadden7793]

Hello drach

[@battleship6177]

I don't think UAD is ready for these sort of things, the game is still super limited even with all that it has already.

[@DefaultProphet]

I’d like to see Alaska in this division

[@toddwebb7521]

Indeed it's a good fit for this class

[@johnfisher9692]

Bias built into a game by it's designers? Gee I wonder which ship game takes first prize for that?

[@jukeseyable]

Sadly though the whole experiment has been rendered a complete waste of time, unless it is considered just for lolz. As drach says their are limitations of the game that are significant, and certain elements been vastly over powered. But after watching some of the videos, it's abundantly clear that whichever ship Monroe wants to win, Wins!

[@nicholastrueblood8683]

reminds me of world of warships

[@Azoth51]

Game mechanics of UA:A are so crappy that it will probably will be fun!

[@eraserr83]

Such a huge potential in the game, yet such a slow development and the way they are taking it... :(

[@andygeary3531]

Patience is a virtue

[@eraserr83]

@@andygeary3531 Ignorance is a bliss. :)