Ultimate Admiral: Dreadnoughts || Ironclads!

[@nikkireborn5923]

I like...this might be good for a career series.

[@Wolfpack345]

I definitely want to do a series when the Campaign mode comes out.

[@The-Chps]

@@Wolfpack345 Oh yes please!

[@ericball1137]

Agreed. Especially civil war era campaign.

[@patrickaalfs9584]

I don't think I'd refer to the monitor's turret as "state of the art" anymore. I use to believe the union navy developed the first turrets ever used too but I hadn't really investigated what was going on with some of the European navies at that time. Union monitor design was "unique" to be sure but using the term "state of the art," implies very good or best contemporaneous design. The monitor's turret was suspended on one central shaft that raised the entire turret when revolving it and then needed to lower the entire turret when firing the cannon. There was minimal support under the turret walls so a direct hit on the turret ring could dent the wall bad enough to impede any movement. England and France had developed turrets that rested on top of ball bearings and used internal gearing to power turret revolution. During the civil war, the north might have developed the largest "brown water" navy on earth temporarily, but most broke down or became obsolete a few years after the war. The union only had around fifty ships capable of extended sea crossings. Although US naval action in Europe was unrealistic, the extent of port fortifications and coastal gun boat in both north and south made the eastern seaboard impervious to a European naval attack for the first time in history. The English became somewhat concerned when they realized their navy could no longer dictate English trade conditions with the US.

[@mayorgeneralramirez1997]

Thank you Mr. Aalfs!

[@bobwill]

Well, the Monitor was only built because it was what they could build in the time they had. Monitor was basically an after-thought as something that would be completed much faster than the USS New Ironsides, which was a much better ship; but, cost 3x as much and wouldn’t be finished until several months after the battle of Hampton Roads.

[@p1rahnah]

Imagine having a Yamato in the age of the ironclads, you could take over the world with that power at the time

[@lordfinklewick5841]

Just came across this channel, and by god the quality you put out is fantastic! Great to watch your videos with a nice whiskey.

[@Wolfpack345]

Thanks!!

[@jefferynelson]

Also, I've looked into IL 2 Tank Crew. Apparently I can drive my tank right into your airbase. If I ever get the game it's on Wolfpack.

[@Wolfpack345]

You sure can! You can also hop in a Sherman and shoot me down with the .50 cal!

[@Jagdtyger2A]

Try building your Virginia with 6" armor on the belt and casemate. Or better yet 8" armor on a shorter casemate. Armed with either 7" tripple banded Brooke rifes, 11" double banded Brooke rifles or, better yet 11" Krupp double banded breech loaders; a pair fore and aft and 4 per broadside. And replace that underpowered "Merrimac" engine with a 4000 ihp double expansion Kirk company engine

[@TheReinhartt]

I think one thing this game should capitalize on is how sometimes through history battles between warships would take hours, I like how they show it takes a while to kill a huge ship but the time limit seems a bit short, well done though

[@Wolfpack345]

The battles normally take quite a while which is refreshing. I agree.

[@doktork3406]

YES you're covering this game ! Please start a campaign series when the campaigns come out.

[@Wolfpack345]

I certainly will.

[@Wolfen443]

The most tragic and thankfully avoided part of using these new ships was that the war never saw them growing better and more dangerous or we could have seen small scale versions of Jutland 50 years before that one.

[@grandadmiralzaarin4962]

Would be neat to see major Civil War Naval battles reenacted through this

[@buckduane1991]

In the real battle, the engineer who designed the Monitor’s twin guns said to use a certain powder charge for battle; however, in the actual battle with the Virginia the crews only used 1/4 the manufacturer’s stated powder load because the captain thought only half the load alone would make the guns explode, which led to the stalemate of the cannon balls bouncing off the angled deck of the Virginia. We now know if the crew had used the correct powder load (as the manufacturer demonstrated after the battle) the cannon balls would’ve punched through the armor rather than deflect, and the manufacturer showed with a demonstration that the guns could hold together even with twice their designed powder load in the gun. Fear and ignoring the manufacturer led to a stalemate that should have been a swift victory.

[@astrotrek3534]

Dahlgren guns had an unfortunate and incredibly publicized accident in the 1840s, which killed multiple government officials and almost a president. Made people distrust the guns, even though every gun was proofed (fired with 3 times the powder load) before seeing service.

[@panzerabwerkanone]

@@astrotrek3534 Wrong, the gun that exploded on the USS Princton was NOT a Dahlgren gun. The gun was in fact a gun designed by Captain Stockton to copy the John Ericcson's hoop band breech construction. It was the gun that failed and somehow Ericsson got some of the blame even though it wasn't the gun he had built. The Dahlgren guns at the battle of Hampton Rhoades were using the standard load used throughout the Navy AT THAT TIME. The myth that the guns were only half loads comes from testing done later in the war when engineers realized just how strong the Dahlgren guns were. By the end of the war the charges that were permitted were double what was standard at the time of the first ironclad battle. Also, an incident happened aboard the Monitor were one of the guns ran into the back of the turret. This was from hasty and improper training of the gun crew were the friction recoil system that Ericsson designed was loosened instead of tightened. The result were dents in the inside of the turret that lead historians to speculate that the captain had ordered the charges to be reduced.

[@astrotrek3534]

@@panzerabwerkanone Oh, I don't know how I got that confused. Maybe because Ericsson was involved in both the failed gun and the design of Monitor. Still though, fears of exploding guns kept powder charges low throughout the war, like you mentioned the guns were capable of much stronger powder loads then were permitted.

[@twashhh]

Yessssssssssss Wolfpack I’ve wanted to see you play Ultimate Admiral For the longest time :) Glad to see the channel at 10k, hope to chat soon

[@Wolfpack345]

It has definitely been on my list for a while!! Happy to hear you enjoyed it. Talk to you soon!

[@klydon1291]

You tube was kind enough to toss this in my lap randomly probably because I watch Wolfpack's other videos and may have commented once or twice on them. I have had this on the game wish listed for awhile, but the negative comments keep me from taking the plunge on it. While interesting on the surface, there is a lot wrong with the depiction of the casemate iron clad. My friends and I played a lot of Ironclads and the expansion back in the day (board game) and it was probably the best game that depicted that era of naval warfare. The detail was amazing and the rules pretty much covered everything relatively realistically including stuff like ramming and also fires. I am also somewhat of a history nut and especially naval history. One of the biggest things right off the bat is the depiction of the fore and aft cannon. Yes, there are 3 cannon ports there, but it is one cannon that uses all three. There simply isn't room inside for 3 cannons and the barrels look more like later guns both in appearance and length. When a cannon was run out on the Virginia, there was some barrel out there, but not like what is depicted. The Virginia actually had part of a barrel of one cannon shot away in its battle with the Monitor. There are other issues I could write about as well. All good stuff I suppose, but you would hope it would be a bit more true to realism than it is. Enjoy your work Wolfpack. Thanks.

[@KOS762]

That was a cool video.. Iron CLADS.... YARRR!!!! Matey!!!!! ;)

[@Wolfpack345]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@OoandyXx]

Hit that magazine in the beginning lol, good video.

[@Wolfpack345]

I know. That was definitely a "critical hit"

[@jamesricker3997]

What happened to the Virginia in the first one was an ammo detonation. Referred to as being Hooded

[@Wolfpack345]

An apt description.

[@timonsolus]

Why 'Hooded' and not 'Invincibled' or 'Queen Mary'd' ??

[@timesthree5757]

@@timonsolus more famous of the 3 you mentioned to be exploded.

[@e.kent.d9561]

I think wait for the career to do it seriously. Maybe do a battle like this as you want to every so often.

[@Wolfpack345]

Yeah that is the plan. A lot of the other missions have already been covered extensively by others.

[@ChrisS-fh7zt]

I know do a 3 point turn that might cut the turn radius down to more manageable size LOL. That twin turret one sort of reminded me of the ill fated USS Keokuk that was shelled so badly out side of Charleston that it limped out and later sunk when the Union tried to force their way in and take the city by a naval assault on April 7th 1863.

[@MouldedSalad]

_[heavy metal music starts playing]_ 👍

[@connormclernon26]

For a second I thought this was an April Fools prank, but am grateful it’s not

[@Wolfpack345]

:)

[@mathewm7136]

I used to play the old Yaquinto Ironclads in College.

[@Caratacus1]

Me too!

[@Lornharding]

that's an old version, campains has been on for a while

[@kolboy757]

The fact that this battle happened in my own back yard. Quite literally.

[@XCrawlFan]

Amazing. No idea this game existed!

[@Wolfpack345]

Glad I could bring some exposure to it! It is a lot of fun!

[@captainjonna1034]

glad ta see you playing this game but i`ll wait for a career mode before buying them both also the devs of cold waters and Atlantic fleet are making a new game called war on the sea

[@Wolfpack345]

Yup I saw War on the Sea. I will certainly be covering that game.

[@CNMikado]

CSS Virginia has one funnel not two not to nitpick but I’m just pointing that out

[@kkhagerty6315]

Really wish these where available in custom battles

[@bobgary6150]

Bit unfortunate to name the USS monitor Arkansas, I believe that was the name of the CSN ironclad scuttled towards the end of the war

[@Wolfpack345]

Yeah the names are completely randomized.

[@SeraphinOM]

Hello! Very good let's plays. Would you prefer Ultimate Admiral: Dreadnoughts over War on the seas, especially in terms of a more challenging AI?

[@vincevassallo5385]

Interesting, sort of like a review. Keep it up as the game evolves.

[@Wolfpack345]

Glad you enjoyed it.

[@Q...........-]

bruh why do you increase deck armot but decrease belt. the belt is literally the whole ship

[@Reshigekko]

Just subscribed. Ironclads used only solid shot right? As in just a cannonball?

[@lukealexander2135]

Kagekos Rekt yes

[@lukealexander2135]

Horcerer you are right, but in the battle of Hampton roads it was only solid shot

[@jackbrabham]

well, that sure looks unusual.

[@EvilNecroid]

aww it fades to black before u can see it sink

[@Wolfpack345]

Yeah it is unfortunate it does that.

[@jameswatson7270]

thank's Wolf this is good game it will get better :):)

[@Wolfpack345]

I agree! It has a lot of potential!

[@monostripeexplosiveexplora2374]

the ironclads are kinda cute..

[@jefferynelson]

A World of Tanks or World of Tanks Blitz video ? World of Tanks seems like a deeper rabbit hole to me for whatever it's worth

[@Wolfpack345]

It's possible. There is a lot I want to cover but I won't say never.

[@zeevemden8416]

c.s.s missisipi? 😲,the confederation had only one two-pipe battleship...

[@timonsolus]

Nice game-but I'd prefer that you put this Ironclad one on the back burner for now (excuse the pun!) And do Age of Sail first. Purely because Age of Sail is far closer to full completion with Campaign available, and Dreadnought isn't. (P.S. I'll be getting the Dreadnaught game, provided it's possible to set up completely historical ships for both the player and the opposing AI. I have little interest in what if designs. (Disappointed by 12" gun USS Monitor's quick victory over the CSS Virginia...)

[@Wolfpack345]

Yeah I do want to cover Age of Sail. I do plan to wait on this game until a proper campaign mode comes out. A lot of the missions have already been covered by others anyways. I just saw Ironclads were added and figured it would be something different and cool for the channel :) I was dissapointed by the quick victory as well. I was planning to only cover the Monitor in the video. I guess it worked out ok.

[@ened30]

looks like a submarine ngl

[@b_de_silva]

Too expensive for me but seems cool

[@OceanChannelProductions]

play more!

[@Caratacus1]

Hmm not really realistic. Like you mentioned basically ironclads would stand throwing shells at each other for hours without sinking their targets. Oh well thanks for the vid!

[@Wolfpack345]

Yeah they had to make compromises to make the game fun I souppose. Also as far as I know these missions are just for fun. The main focus of the game is Dreadnoughts and I think the damage models represent that a bit better.

[@Caratacus1]

@@Wolfpack345 Yeah makes sense!