ULTIMATE F1 driver STYLE analysis by Peter Windsor

Amongst the first to identify the style traits that enabled Max Verstappen to take astonishing pole positions in both Monaco and Spain, Peter Windsor in this latest video analyses the key characterises not only of Max but also of his 2023 F1 rivals. Peter also expands his explanation of The Friction Circle (as it applies to racing drivers); and, with the aid of his own photographs, taken during FP3 at Monaco, he details the differences between the other drivers, team-by-team.
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[@Sum_Ting_Wong]

All the SIM driving that Max does between races gives him access to various data points that allows him to refine his style and maximise the speed and efficiency of his style/car. The kid is like a super computer. He works very very hard on his craft which others don't do as much. That's his edge.

[@divinasi0n]

Now you say that, I can imagine max just chilling at home, driving dozens and dozens of laps of Monaco, scraping the inside of all the corners with no risk of repercussions, to the point its second nature - because of its faster, why not? And when under pressure those data points are all there to be accessed, ingrained. Only someone who lives and breathes racing off track can have that inherent advantage on track.

[@ariebroek2404]

Take the onboard with Max. What you describe happens in a small part of a second (the actual rotation). He does things with his hands and it happens so fast, but it is not correcting a loss of control or correcting something. It actually is positioning the car into a straight, flat surface ready to get to throttle on. He has neural connections others just don’t have. It’s talent and applying that talent from a very young age, when the brain is in full development. It’s just not fair😂😂

[@Drrolfski]

Max OP pls nerf

[@maGnetar333]

Pretty sure most of what you described is happening in Max's subconscious. Almost like a background task with a life of its own!

[@thegaslightneverends]

@@maGnetar333 and that has been learnt in his childhood/teen years with thousands of hours

[@maGnetar333]

@@thegaslightneverends Indeed

[@TheAngryDuckman]

Great analysis. Thank you for raising the volume compared to your previous videos.

[@reinjanmaat1839]

I am so relieved to hear that you are not criticizing the drivers but only comparing, more reporters should do that but we can also just listen to Peter Winsor and forget the rest 💪

[@alex_madeira]

A masterclass from Pete - there's nothing like this anywhere else!

[@paulsheridan291]

Unbiased on point. It's good

[@Architrion]

No. It's not. Is smokeselling at its best. This crazy theory is just pure nonsense. You need to record each and every lap from every driver, take a similar frame in the absolute same moment and make an average of all of this data. Judging only on a given photo of a given driver, completely out of sync is just silly talking. By the way, to short corners is and has always been slower than maximizing speed through the corner. You can check it on the banked curve of Zandvoort. When Alonso came in from Indycar, he showed the way to everybody out there to go high on this curve and to not short the corner.... This guy creates new laws of physics while he smokes us all. But here I am. Coming time after time for my dose of smoke

[@quentinhirschfeld9382]

@@Architrion If you look at driver like Hamilton and Verstappen, they create shorter corner while putting less energy on the tires and increase their minimal speed. Btw, your analysis is sloppy, a driver will never have exactly the same approach at the same corner because the level of grip changes each lap, subtly but surely, the key is adapting through sensibility, that's exactly what Ham and Ver does, especially in colder weather.

[@Architrion]

@@quentinhirschfeld9382 This is what happens when you follow some journalist like Peter Windsor instead of studying physics. Centripetal force=m.v2/r. Mass times Velocity squared divided by radius. There's no way on earth where you can put less energy on the tires while increasing the speed by shortening the corner, i.e it's radius. Shorter radius increase the centripetal force, thus increase the energy on the tires. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centripetal_force The second part.... What is sloppier is just make a case study on a single photo. Take the Haas comparison in that video. It's clear that one picture is taken earlier than the other. So no comparison is posible because you don't know what direction the first guy is going to take after the photo was taken. But Peter Windsor knows better.

[@tobyhall8048]

​@@ArchitrionI do study Physics. There's nothing wrong with Peter's explanation. You've made two incorrect assumptions here. Firstly, Peter's concept doesn't need to wrestle with the algebraic differences between the types of forces. And most importantly, you have greatly simplified the material dynamics of the tyres "energy on the tyres" is a silly concept. You need a much more developed understanding of entropy and the dynamics of solids for a correct model. If you'd like to know more obtain yourself a copy of Enrico Fermi's 1936 Columbia University lectures on Thermodynamics. The second section of Mr Fermi's 8th and final lecture pertains to Nernst's theorem applied to solids, you will find that energy applied to a solid does not create the same amount of heat (not the same as change in temperature) absorption unless pressure is held constant, this pressure of course is something that a skilled Grand Prix racer can affect with his deft inputs on the car. Ironically this is something Peter can Intuit without an education, but you seem adamantly convinced is impossible because you read it in a book, despite the reality of your eyes and ears showing you it to be false.

[@mattk8370]

Really wish there was actual footage showcasing the different types of cornering methods. These explanations are great as always, but I think visuals would help a lot. Even something like Chainbear's simple animations would be a great benefit.

[@maGnetar333]

If this does not deserve a comprehensive sit down with Max to discuss all the wonderful nuances of driving, I don't know what does.....

[@robh9577]

It's amazing to watch particularly Max, when he drives OVER the limit in Qualy, 2021 jeddah, this year in Monaco etc. Peeling the stickers off the wall and somehow out of control but still in control...

[@johanb.7869]

Bloody shame he hit wall in Jeddah or that would have a record lap.

[@svdlaan]

I can remember from Max's Jeddah run footage of Alonso giving an interview while watching live on a screen what Max is doing and then you start seeing something in his eyes that's a mix of transfixion, disbelief, admiration, as if hypnotized, until the magic spell is suddenly broken by Max hugging the wall, and then that moment where he unwillingly lands in the sober here and now again.

[@Switll72]

No Fancy graphics, no fancy animations just plain and simple explanations that no one can argue against, Thanx Peter your legend !!!!

[@Jhhgftghjjj]

By far most interesting and educating F1 podcast....great stuff!

[@bjs7442]

This was a fascinating comparison and starts with the premiss that Max technique is the gold standard and perhaps Peter is correct in that. However there is one , to me, glaring omission in this analysis. I am not qualified as Peter is in driver technique but I do know you have to look at all the variables. The one that Peter completely ignores is they are all driving different cars. You can only compare team mates properly. If you take an obvious comparison from the British GP ie Lando V Max. Lando does not do short corners but is still a very fast racing driver. However Peter has only seen him driving in F1 a Mclaren which drives differently to an RB. Perhaps Lando is maximizing the strengths of the Mclaren and it doesnt like short corners as it ends up slow. Daniels woes at Mclaren was because he couldn't adapt his style to the car. Put Lando in an RB he would change his cornering to suit the strengths of the car.

[@error101qqq]

Yeah exactly the mclaren is understerre

[@awoodruff002]

Hi Peter, I found your channel about a year ago, and really appreciate everything you do to bring the very technical but driver-centric content that you do. It is unique. You obviously focus on the current drivers, and you also refer often to a number of drivers from F1 history to compare cornering styles, however there is one driver from the past that never gets a mention, Michael Schumacher. I would be really interested in a feature on Schumacher, analysing his style in terms of short and long corners, but also going into depth about what made him so so SO quick relative to his peers at the time, between 1992-2000. The Ferrari was so superior from 2001 onwards, and he had matured as a person and a driver by then as well, making the later years less interesting to me. However, for those first 8-9 years he was completely electrifying, and is the main reason for my enduring love of F1 today. I have wondered whether my memories of Schumacher at that time are rose tinted by the fact that I was living and learning F1 for the first time as a teenager in the late 1990s, but this thought has recently been dispelled by watching extended race highlights from that era on You Tube. He simply looks so much faster, more aggressive, committed, and brilliant than anyone else, including Mika, who is obviously also a Hall of Famer in his own right. I would love a Windsor special on this, and will keep messaging until you read this request! Many thanks for everything you do! Andrew (London, UK)

[@mindwis3]

It's always such a joy to hear you talk about all f1, lovely insights.

[@zoicaras2992]

This is so great, thank you Peter. Kudos for using actual pen and paper, I feel like I'm back at school again!

[@DemijanJuric]

I think you don't often answer comments here, but I will try my best anyways. You are describing the friction elipse and GG diagram pretty well and it should be very accessible data to F1 engineers to have in front of them. Why do you think the engineers are not looking into it or as you say they will not have a clue what they would be looking at? This is coming from an engineer that did also performance work and for lap timing this was interesting to see how the driver transitions ax into ay back into ax and how peak ax and ay are not the most important factor in laptime. This is in line with you saying late braking is not the fastest as it will come with a compromise later in the corner.

[@conradinkranz4968]

so interesting !!! please more of this maybe even with video? awesome man thank you !!!😊

[@JayQ2k]

Something on the photo compare at 5:26. Beyond the obvious not at the same place, it seems the Max picture is one frame later, since he's further ahead of the cross walk. One frame later, I'd take it that Sergio would have his car better aligned as well. Though I do see the point you're making. Lance vs Fernando suffers from the same thing. But there it's way more clear.

[@naico144]

Now this is why I love your content, awesome analysis!

[@ronbehymerjr5512]

Thanks for the work you do!!! You are a scholar and a gentleman sir!! Look forward to the next one!!

[@Enzoblueblood]

I wish he would do something on Kevin “suck my balls” Magnussen. Mags just doesn’t get enough love as samey samey Hulkenberg.

[@e2rqey]

I think your right when it comes to the engineers not being able to see a "short corner driver" on the telemetry. They are only looking at inputs into the car, without seeing how those inputs actually relate to the location on the track. To really see a difference in driving style requires a combination of the telemetry, suspension/tire load AND the location of the car relative to the track, apex of the corner, and angle of the car. I actually think it would be something easier for them to see in the sim than on the track, whre they could see and compare the traction circle. As all of thst information would be built into the simulation itself.

[@jokebrouwer4118]

Great video! Maybe, with this tool, we might in fact compare different drivers from different periods in different cars. The problem is of course, to add proper measurable, numerical data in the friction circle, because now it's purely about the behavior of the car calibrated with the behavior of the driver. What can the car do and what can the driver do with it (that is, find the limit)? As I understand it, each driver wants to be as close to the periphery of the circle as possible, though being in the middle, driving as fast as possible on the straights, makes you faster than other, except that it's not a question of driver capabilities. So, as a tool this makes sense to build a profile of drivers, more than the ususal dat we get form breaking and accelerating. But if you have that, it should be possible to compare drivers, if (big if) it were possible to calibrate the behavior of different cars, such as the amount of downforce, suspension, etc. etc. For now, it seems you can only compare drivers with the same car, but still a very speculative tool without real numbers.

[@williamgrounds6911]

Excellent video Peter! Thanks again. This reminds me. Many years ago you did a video comparing Seb and Mark, and how Seb looked towards the following corner more. I tried to find this video but couldn't. Are you able to re-upload by any chance?

[@WicherBos]

Peter I am really impressed by your knowledge about driving style… at the same time I really struggle to see what you mean…. Not you, but my lack of driving knowledge I suppose… nevertheless I like these video’s a lot..l

[@Lanse1984]

Thank you yet again Peter.

[@robdv]

Would love to hear some reactions of drivers on this theory. Knowing this makes watching F1 much more fun, thanks Peter!

[@Enzoblueblood]

I’d be shocked if any of the drivers really think that much about friction ⭕️s. They just care about understeer and oversteer and whether they have too much or too little of one or the other. PW did something about this years ago in an article about Michael Schumacher and wondered himself if Michael even gave this much thought. Interesting nonetheless

[@BeeTB1]

Best F1 content in KZbin

[@frank1963]

nice analysis, very insightful, thank you

[@mohammedaneeskhan790]

Max would be quick in any era. He has similar traits to Schumacher, Mansell and Clark. All great drivers

[@aldvelothi755]

Most experts agree that driver skill is era specific. Max is brilliant in the modern era where management is priority number 1. In previous eras where brutal all out speed was more valuable it would have been different. Early F1 also had fewer safety measures, so crash prone drivers were putting themselves at great risk, and they also had to deal with manual gear changes clutch pedals, and manual braking.

[@mohammedaneeskhan790]

@aldvelothi755 Well Max is probably the quickest driver on the grid over a lap. So that box is ticked!

[@Hermanos22]

@@aldvelothi755 here he goes again with his nonsense to protect his fragility, gatekeeping a driver from another era😂

[@beagle7622]

I love the photo of Jim Clark. It could only have been taken in the Tasman Series of 1968 either Warwick Farm in Sydney or Sandown Park in Melbourne. Jim never raced the 49 in Gold Leaf colours in Europe before Hockelheim. I agree with what he says about how you can’t judge the best driver of all time.

[@christopherboyle1479]

My memory tells me that's the Warwick Farm Esses. Lance Ruting photo?

[@MrEo89]

I, and I’m sure more of the engineering/STEM focused audience, would really appreciate some definitions. I can’t put my finger on any constant/independent variable you’re using to analyze these corner abilities. Sounds like you’re referring to amount of time spent in a corner, but are using vague still photos to illustrate the point? Are they all normalized for point in the lap? Normalized for time? I haven’t the slightest clue of what you’re going on about here. Maybe scarbs could help? Or a collab with brrrakeF1? (Apologies if I slaughtered the spelling).. I do enjoy most of your videos though.

[@LowerLaptime]

I agree - like - where are these photos from. Same lap / session? Pete always talks about how max drives but Ive never seen any telemetry / supporting evidence. Nothing against you pete - love your work - would be nice to see arguments supported by fact 👌

[@truth4reel]

lot of it is nonsense that only the fan of the drivers he praises can appreciate

[@f1_onboardsAC]

I think the intention is to show the big picture about different drivings styles. Potentially a shorter corner with an oversteery car tendency will result in a faster lap time. But the fastest driver ever had long corners. Fernando also has long corners (even if he's not that fast in qualifying, he's still top 3-4 this century only behind Max, Charles and Lewis and probably McLaren Kimi, which is amazing). Lewis has driven long corners not only now but also before in his career. So there are many variables which are not taken into account in these videos.

[@rakeshbhartipangotra8224]

Wonderful Peter, always a pleasure listening to you.

[@bobtuiliga8691]

Respectfully I think you have some confusion about the friction circle concept, which relates to a single tire contact patch not the entire car. All of these drivers, and even most good club-level drivers are always at the maximum of the friction circle of the loaded corner through most of the phases of the corner. The finesse is the weight transfer between the loaded (outside) front vs rear which *increases* or *decreases* the size of each "friction circle" (ie more grip) and also varies the total distributed load (ie the total area of the combined two friction circles) between them. Difference car balances and the way the driver manages the weight transfers greatly impact the total amount of available grip through a corner. On top of that they will be managing the amount and timing of their rotation, maintaining momentum and slip angle as well as limiting parasitic tire scrub. Living on the edge of an individual "friction circle" just happens alongside of all that.

[@mohammedaneeskhan790]

Great video Peter, Leclerc is clearly the closest to Max in terms of style. I hope he can polish up his driving and become consistent like Max. Lewis for me was always exceptional on the breaks but never a short corner driver like Max, Schumacher or Mansell. He doesn't have long corners but they are definitely longer than the mentioned drivers.

[@tocsa120ls]

what a neat little trick, using the crosswalk for reference!

[@gold333]

Peter, exactly the same as the old Schumacher vs Herbert telemetry analysis and the old Senna vs Palmer telemetry analysis. Both on youtube. The better drivers simply brake earlier, brake less, carry more speed, control the apex with tiny steering corrections and accelerate earlier. It’s the same thing we’ve seen in the past 35 years. Senna even describes this “salvage apex” in his book.

[@funkitupyo62]

Loved this Peter thanks so much for sharing…. Super interesting mate cheers!

[@Zahnarzt329]

Awesome analysis Peter! I‘d like to know why Max is the only driver who complains about downshifts in comparison to all the other drivers. Is that also due to his driving style? Thank you :)

[@aldvelothi755]

The red bull has a different gearbox design that is less restrictive to underfloor aerodynamic design. I don’t know if that’s the root cause of his complaints

[@SoLDMG]

I believe Max is talking about the way the downshifts unsettle the car. As in, the synchronization between engine and gearbox is off, causing the rear wheels take up the difference between them and locking up slightly.

[@Enzoblueblood]

@@SoLDMGwould love to be a fly on the wall in one of his debriefs, just to hear him describe what exactly he’s feeling in those moments. I could be wrong (short term memory) but even before the ground effect cars he’s usually sensitive to this.

[@SoLDMG]

@@Enzoblueblood I too remember Max talking about it in the 2021 season, and last season as well. Theres a clip of Ayrton Senna floating around talking with his engineers, and he describes what the car is doing, describing the track surface, lap by lap. I imagine most F1 debriefs would be like this!

[@Enzoblueblood]

@@SoLDMG I remember Nico revealing (might have been a podcast) how he felt sidelined in debriefs when Michael joined him at Mercedes, before he made it known in no uncertain terms that he wasn’t having it. Prost and Senna were the opposite in driving style: Senna with his throttle blipping, classical lines and Prost with his early turn-in short corners. Imagine those debriefs after Imola 89 Must have been box office 🤣🤣

[@lewpearson9800]

It would be interesting to see where each one gets back on the throttle and also see the throttle pressure as well as seeing throttle pressure plotted over steering angle.

[@ecufile4095]

Whe will wait for another great live F1 stream or the best F1 video after the race etc. Its the best channel on youtube. And Peter Windsor with the love off F1 with more than 50 years expiriens its a big honor and joy, great to watch, hear and see what whe also saw or don't saw in the race or f1 qualification, whe all learn more thats so great to hear these tech details, about driving styles, short to a corner like Max and Lewis, or thake a bigger corner like the most off all F1 drivers do, that whas great info to watch and hear. This best F1 channel from the great Peter Windsor shout gett a bigger and nice for all hiss work he must do this big work making these great video's or streams by him self. I now its allot off work. So its shout be great that the nice and the most great F1 presentater, he is a lots more than that, getts a one hour show on Bbc or Sky after each F1 race, that for everybody is free to watch this great show on television from a men who nows more than all the others on all these shows. I now i am self a great F1 fan and watch since 1968 and see 24 live races. Greetings from a big F1 and Peter Windsor fan from Holland. Sorry for my bad English.

[@btothev3019]

Hi Peter, love the videos! Hoping you will read this: Perfect explanation about the styles of driving.nDid Max already use the short corner style in his Toro Rosso era?

[@Tjescoo]

Peter WindShor T Corners strikes again! Delightful to watch and listen as always.

[@Weltmeisterzz]

Brilliant. Top tier analyses

[@purplepanda2169]

Brilliant analysis as always !

[@PK19911707]

I don't understand how being closer to the circumference of the friction circle means more efficient driving. Braking, acceleration and the turns (the four linear components) you obviously want to maximise. But why would you want to simultaneously brake and turn as much as possible? Normally we're told that the car's performance is best if you do only one of these things (braking or turning) at a time.

[@flooent]

Can we quantify how close they come to the friction circle, and how long they stay? A bit of data would be invaluable.

[@stunns2003]

I’m a big fan of Peter but I don’t see how you can make this a fair comparison. Different cars, different grip levels, different driver confidence levels in the car, etc. Can’t make a fair comparison unless we have similar machinery.

[@quentinhirschfeld9382]

But that's a point he made, Verstappen is probably the guy that touches perfection right now precisely because he is in a cocoon driving a very fast car. You can still see though that some drivers have short or longer corners irrespective of the car.

[@ayyel551]

Wow thanks your really technical. Do you have a video explaining the grip circle in more detial

[@raddad9041]

I feel like the engineers could probably plug the breaking, accelerating, and loading numbers into a fairly simple graphic to actually show the friction circle. The outer circle being a hypothetical vehicle limit, but again data that the engineers would have access to. Bet some good hobbyist programmers out there could take those speed traces and produce something cool.

[@CasualGamer51]

Great video Peter!

[@markpijnappels6796]

Great analysis Peter! Compulsory video for any F1 driver worth his salt, let alone all those wannabees.

[@brunococo1]

Hi Peter, I was reading an article by Mark Hughes who said that Lewis has the style as Senna in that they brake late and straight. If that is the case doesn’t this imply that Lewis is more a long corner style driver. Again as you say it’s only an opinion and given that Lewis and Senna did it this way then itv can’t be a bad idea as for me Ayrton especially is probably the best I have seen followed very closely by Max.

[@chiwingwu1478]

@9:36 bilisecond :P (milli micro nano pico femto atto) Very creative Peter! Nice analysis. Still trying to digest the whole Max being an early breaker stabilizing the car and short cornerer. Still don't get it, but keep up the good work!

[@basdebruin2355]

Very educational! Thank you! Wonders me if this ‘Maxability’ purely natural or is it something what he had to learn.

[@207rb]

This is great and i love hearing about differwnces between drivers buuut isnt max just getting more rotation in the 1st half of the corner. He has more confidence and a better feel for how much rotation he can maintain than other drivers.

[@xwhogafx815]

Thank you Peter Windsor 🙏

[@SBAK4444]

Very insightful Peter, thank you. How do you know this though?

[@Tj930]

Like and respect you, Mr. W, and I wish I could have a quiet 1:1 with you about the geometry of the traction circle, because one of us is wrong! 😉 First time you showed that, I let it pass... But, if you remember dear old Pythagorus, at every point on the edge of that circle, radius r = square root ( x^2 + y^2) Where r is maximum grip available x is left right (ie lateral) grip component y is front back (ie longitudinal) grip component At zero angle (when the car is "straight") Lateral component = r x sine (angle) = 0 Longitudinal component = r x cosine (angle) = r Surely?.. And what Max, Lewis and Charles do to shorten the corner is to get the car to rotate quicker mid-turn, typically by actually slightly exceeding the lateral grip limits the rear of the car can offer (be it under braking, or throttle - like those amazing pictures of Jimmy Clark)

[@shinebassist]

What lewis doesnt get enough credit for is how adaptable he is. His natural style is a very smooth, long corner approach, maximising the speed carried, which really suited the cars from 14-21. The way he has managed to alter his style and learn to drive much shorter corners, to suit the ground effects car, which have a much more rearward aero balance, is a real credit to just how good he is

[@arthurteo8111]

I absolutely love the way he speaks.

[@mclark23]

Please define ‘outside of the friction circle “. I don’t get how to interpret this. Is the circle actual or philosophical?

[@Enzoblueblood]

Or even spherical 🙈

[@MaikNL]

Super interesting to see this

[@DarthLordRaven]

looks like russel has the shortest corner? It's hard to compare from 1 corner only.

[@notoriousgb]

Brilliant Analysis Peter, Thankyou. I would be interested to know if Seb Vettel is/was a short corner driver and if so is there an argument that Adrian Newwy/Red Bull cars (in the way they are engineered) require someone who is a short corner driver ? And possible explains why Seb was never the same post Red Bull ?

[@elie_d7334]

Watch his video about max and seb. He says why max is better than seb and in what areas

[@notoriousgb]

@@elie_d7334 Thanks

[@Praise_God369]

Seb was a spinner + team mate KO😂🤡

[@jordanharris5013]

How would a car that struggles in slow corners(speed), like the Mclaren, effect the drivers corners? Seems there car has struggled in slow speed since Lando has been there so is he forced to take longer corners cause it's faster for that car or is it always a choice no matter what?

[@beemrmem3]

Would be awesome to see a video overlay of Perez and Verstappens lap. See the different car positions

[@521tifosi]

You are too taken with Max. He is a great talent, but his race car is much faster than all other cars on the grid. When Lewis was in a dominant car, you said he was the best driver of the era, and you said the same when Vettel was in top form. Seb earned 4 championships while Lewis earned 7. It’s too early to say Max is the best driver of his era as he has only earned 2 (actually 1 if like myself you believe the integrity of the final 2021 race was compromised with the bad call from Masi). The point is that you shouldn’t be so taken with the driving style of whoever is currently driving the fastest car.

[@Shawn-ik6dr]

I'd love to see overlays of the photos, to compare.

[@musculusiv4172]

The real thing these pictures show is that todays F1 cars are too large

[@Marcel-df3bl]

It's pretty simple regarding Max... he can feel the fysical limit of the (any) car, in any situation (remember Brazil, 2016), better than anybody, ever. He is the son of Isaac Newton...

[@booboo1178]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😉🤣🤣🤣🙄🤦

[@Praise_God369]

Newton is scam ,he is a made up carachter...theres no such thing as gravity ...its a made up term by scammers

[@kaarsgaarn]

Dear Peter, thank you for something a even dit not know it existst

[@fintonmainz7845]

Outstanding

[@Drrolfski]

Why not develop a software program (with help of course) that does take these parameters into account and sell it to the industry?

[@donaldmiller5524]

James Hunt said the quickest way is an oversteering setup, provided you can cope with it. To me Keke Rosberg using oversteer to maximum advantage was one of the quickest ever. Peterson and Senna as well. Prost along with Clark and Stewart used the technique that Peter describes in this video, v effective, but not necessarily the quickest. I suggest the prime reason Max is so quick is from a car set up to oversteer . The latest cars have to be driven smoothly and that is what is confusing pundits such as Peter as to what technique is been used. Max is inherently not a smooth driver, he is more like Senna and Schumacher and Rosberg snr.

[@quentinhirschfeld9382]

Max is arguably the smoothest driver on the grid right now. I personally never saw him make spicy things, his inputs always have been extremely supple, which showed on very technical tracks like Silverstone or Spa (always was fast there).

[@Peter_Tissot]

I'm a tiny bit obese, when I grow up I wanna have short corners, just like the formula 1 drivers.

[@Enzoblueblood]

I see what you did 🤣🤣 Avoid too much friction

[@jeffsteyn7174]

Short corner long corner medium corner. Truth is dominant car will make you look amazing. Lewis looked amazing in a dominant car... so does max

[@frederikstrandberg5398]

But, haven’t you said that Lando does do short corners before? When he was defending against Lewis at Sochi 2021

[@Beeevash]

He often contradict himself. Sometimes within same video

[@tranquility701]

Peter, what about commentator 8n Sky f1 sports? 😊😊😊😊

[@ImausrI]

That would a breath of fresh air

[@puckloki873]

A clear difference between "old" guard f1 journos (and paddock animals) and the new. Peter, do you consider yourself more a creature of the paddock and team camps - or a journo? Has it changed over time if so?

[@OldmanNix]

Nom nom nom. Thanks

[@bertbouwhuis]

As always, the devil is in the details. Excellent analysis again Peter. Great stuff!

[@dariosatira8170]

Sir Peter, can Daniel Ricciardo adapt in an RB pointy car?

[@Shawn-ii5oy]

It think it would be interesting to see how short Leclercs corners were at the beginning of 22 compared to Verstappen. Because currently Max has a car which is miles ahead of the rest so ulitmately the car allows him to drive the way he wants. Probably cant say the same for the rest of the drivers

[@Lanse1984]

Max's strength is that he is entirely fine changing his style of driving entirely based on the car he has. Adaptability is why he is so good. Comparing him to Lewis, for example, Lewis is very sensitive to what he wants in a car. George, on the other hand, seems to be fine driving a difficult car.

[@Shawn-ii5oy]

@@Lanse1984 George is still slower than lewis so how does that make sense then

[@Shawn-ii5oy]

@@thinkfirst6155 well yeah if you only look at the driver standings sure

[@lebzgold7475]

@@thinkfirst6155George wasn’t better he just more points

[@ptewilks2634]

Pte my method left foot braking, i shake the car before corner mili seconds to shift the C of G of car then is ready for anything so im breaking speed with power on not full power but power on, cayenne gts; passengers love it, but never full out with other in car

[@geniferteal4178]

While I appreciate that you did the full watch along of the British race I missed that you didn't do a condensed talk about the race. I would have loved to seed one of your usual videos about the race. I had no interest in going back to watch your entire watch along. I know it's extra work. I hate to even suggest it. I just wanted you to know we missed it.

[@devanmc1986]

Is this almost the same thing as point and shoot technique ??

[@LowerLaptime]

Short corners, yeah

[@jahshjahsh2002]

I still don't get it. You mean the other drivers don't trail-brake same as good?

[@hamza-chaudhry]

6:33 6:45 6:54 (8:34) 10:47

[@the1gladiator2]

This makes for nice content, but it is pretty silly to compare drivers through that corner from a single still photograph. This corner is rather unique on the calendar and it allows for very different lines. That isn't really indicative of a driving style. At best it shows an approach to that specific corner, but even that is inconclusive. I'm pretty sure if you compared multiple laps from the same driver you would find a slightly different positioning of the car in each of them.

[@d.katzroy3313]

You think he's getting all his data from still pictures? Of course he's reviewing the videos, but since he's not allowed to show the footage on youtube he has to make do with these frames. Aside from that it's still pretty clear to see how each driver takes corners. They wouldn't show too many differences since it's haywired into them to perform each lap to the best of their ability.

[@the1gladiator2]

@@d.katzroy3313 I'm judging the content not Windsor

[@mclark23]

Although I don’t really understand what he’s saying I think he extrapolates in his mind so both cars are in the same place and he expects us to do the same

[@dco1019]

if it allows for very different lines wouldnt it be an excellent corner to identify a drivers style?

[@the1gladiator2]

@@dco1019 Not necessarily. That's more likely a difference in philosophy on 1 unique corner. That doesn't have to translate in how that driver would approach other corners. It would be better to look at subtle differences in a more conventional corner to try and extract different driving styles.

[@Beeevash]

Do we have any EVIDENCE to suggest that George has longer corners than Sir Lewis ? ANY !

[@ImausrI]

Max feels the physics.

[@jimmyfog1491]

Nothing can beat Alonso in the Renault

[@CCP-pb5ss]

dude you got the best analysis videos on this entire platform but show less face & more race footage i mean you show zero footage..its not a copyright issue 'cause other analysis channels show footage

[@kyleharrison713]

15mins summed up: Drivers matter.

[@ae5498]

Inter Lagos 2016 rainmaster Max.

[@tko2218]

Im a massive LH44 fan..But I’ll be an absolut rong”n if I say I don’t appreciate Max..This guy can drive/race…I gotta give credit where it’s due..As a F1 fan..imho SIR”LH44..🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🤙 “” “”MV33..🇳🇱🤙 ICONS..imho

[@FrancisFjordCupola]

GOAT is Fangio. That one is easy. Any modern driver who thinks he's better than Fangio, just put them in a Fangio-era car. I doubt most would last a race, let alone dare to drive for long enough to win championships. Like 5 of them. And in 4 different teams. And with Fangio, it's also WW2 getting in the way of his career.

[@Ron-GIT]

Every f1 driver started into the bumpy carting sport so for every F1 driver the old race cars would felt like a rolce royce

[@roklo]

Let's put Fangio in a modern F1 car and see how far he'll get. ;)

[@Enzoblueblood]

@@rokloI don’t think he would fit; they’d have to take a lot of weight out the car and at the age he was, his life insurance premiums would be huge. Fun thought though

[@raktim123]

Peter for LN long corners maybe due to the Mclaren characteristics which he has said is inherent from the time he has been in F1.

[@henrywilliams8313]

Then why does he say oscar piastri has short corners and he drives the same mclaren.

[@raktim123]

@@henrywilliams8313 Oscar is learning how to get the best out of it.

[@ofentse2010]

Kamm circle methodology

[@ViN-kr3ri]

According to this De Vries is second only to Max with his short corners so why isn't he quicker?

[@drfisheye]

Slow car. And he crashes a lot and bumps into others. Hence his nickname DeBris.

[@Enzoblueblood]

Prost had shorter corners than Senna but he wasn’t as quick as him. DC drove shorter corners than Mika but he couldn’t live with Mika’s speed. So many other variables not discussed in this video to consider

[@Beeevash]

I noticed it too

[@Beeevash]

​@@Enzoblueblood As if the whole hypothesis of peter about 'long corners short corners' is complete garbage

[@Enzoblueblood]

@@Beeevash I wouldn’t go as far as to say it’s garbage but I don’t think he’s factored in a lot of variables.

[@pascal3544]

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