ULTIMATE Filament Storage Solution!

[@CanuckCreator]

Totally utilizing this, im running out of filament storage with my current setup which isnt optimized, this looks more compact/simple/cheaper and able to scale to different size locations easily

[@josephmeier4663]

So what you’re saying is we need a bigger ERCF

[@Repkord]

Woot! Cant wait to see your setup!

[@emanuelcalderon]

What about the humidity on the filament rolls?

[@CanuckCreator]

@@emanuelcalderon Depends on the conditions in the room really, my basement is dry, house has central air, dont live on the coast, humidity inst really an issue, ive left spools out for months/years without issue.

[@emanuelcalderon]

@@CanuckCreator good to know.

[@KyleTaylorOrionCUSD223]

10 feet of 1/2 inch pipe at most big box stores in my area (midwest, USA) is approximately $5. Which is great. I've used the same for curtain rods and 3D printed mounting. Great idea!

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

This is great if you have tons of PLA and you're printing often enough that you don't need to worry about moisture absorption. I'm actually trying to come up with a solution that can fit in a bookshelf and enclosed so one can potentially dehydrate right in the storage rack. That way, one can have nylons and polycarbonate filaments available on demand.

[@Mobile_Dom]

for people not in the US, EMT tubing is like 19mm, so grab 18 or 20mm and scale up or down a smidgen

[@eideticex]

EMT actually comes in a variety of sizes. The size he is using looks like 0.5in EMT. In reality it's not US imperial at all, just presented as such. It's really 18mm OD and 16mm ID.

[@Mobile_Dom]

@@eideticex oh fuck yeah thats even easier

[@Repkord]

Yep! If you can get 18mm thats Ideal. I miscommented on twitter earlier as 19mm is the actual hole size on the hangers but its bigger than actual so there's a little wiggle room of course

[@TripleJAu]

Always good to get information for those of who follow such channels and others as a reminder not everyone is in the USA

This is really cool. Really like that they've chosen open source, the filament storage isn't for me, due to humidity concerns, but I might take a look at that mounting system for another application in my coffee bar!

[@hanelyp1]

Humidity is also on my mind for filament storage. I'm looking at an ice chest with silica gel desiccant for the modest quantity of filament I'm considering.

[@marsgizmo]

The new Storage looks awesome! Great solution Pooch! 👏😎

[@keithcress1335]

I have horrendous battles with moisture. Funny, my first spool of PLA I left on the machine and used it over two years. Never had the slightest moisture issue, didn't even know moisture WAS and issue. When it ran out I bought about 6 other rolls of various PLA's and a roll of nylon. I spent about two months trying to figure out what was wrong with my printer!! Finally learned about the whole sordid moisture issue. I've learned to keep ALL my 20 rolls of filament in vacuum bags with moisture cards and socks filled with descant. I can't see these wall racks as being useful at all because of moisture absorption. I guess the racks would work if one planned a day ahead of any and all prints where you could dry the filament overnight before using it?

[@CDOTS69]

I print a few feet from a 6 foot waterfall. The learning curve was tough. I use filament dryers and big storage boxes to hold my filament 😆 , definitely like this idea 💡

[@prometheus7504]

Ty to RepKord for making this open source and Ty Joel for showing it to us.

[@printingnewb7840]

With storing filament on the wall, how do you control the moisture absorbtion?

[@saf3ty3rd]

And dust...

[@cdsmakestuff]

1 gal. "ziplock" freezer bags with desiccant pack in each bag

[@Agamemnon2]

If you have this many spools, storing them all in a moisture-controlled way doesn't seem feasible anymore. You'd have to pick a filament for a project, then dry it before starting. And presumably materials that go off faster could be stored in a different way.

[@printingnewb7840]

I probably have about half that much filament and I have 4 dry air tight containers with desiccant in each container to keep them all in decent shape.

[@Repkord]

You humidity control the room and you print A LOT ;)

[@ModBotArmy]

This was great. I used your precious wall mounted filament storage solution but this definitely looks like a sweet option. 😬

[@KanielD]

Pooch always seems so genuine.

[@ThePrintHouse]

This will be added to my new printer studio. This is amazing!

[@woodwaker1]

Pooch always has some great ideas. Thanks for making this open source and sharing with everyone.

[@UncleJessy]

Heck yes!!! Been waiting for this video to drop. This is a must make project!!

[@Repkord]

Cant wait to see what you do with it!

[@RomanoPRODUCTION]

I hope they will do the same concept for the resin bottles 🍼

[@Kronickal6]

7:02 Thanks for your support, from Canada!

[@3DMusketeers]

Love this new design! EMT is great and cheap! Love this idea, may choose to just do this for our main array! The printable cleats are CRAZY GOOD!

[@VincentGroenewold]

Some organization would be nice, like a tagging system. Maybe something like printer dividers you can move around with the plastic type printed on it. Besides that, you'd need some moisture protection for PETG and others I guess.

[@pkchutrainer]

Or just bake the petg before a print.

[@DWIT3D]

This is exactly what I need for my filament storage, thanks Pooch. Thank you for making it open source as well. I will be upgrading my Repbox and building a wall rack to replace my clunky wire shelf. Spring project!!!

[@robertgriffin178]

Just ordered one from You Pooch !!

[@Repkord]

Appreciate the support bud!

[@rushilkisoon]

I thought I had an addiction with 16 spools… but at this level, it becomes goals.

[@HavoCentral]

My plan for the eventual workshop is some kind of ceiling mounted solution. Wall space is valuable! This gives me a direction to go for that!!

[@pkchutrainer]

Just mirror the mounts for the rails and run double french cleats on the ceiling. Then you can just slide the holder on.

[@wiliferd]

This is so cool!!! My shelf JUST filled up with filament spilling out the sides so this is perfect.

[@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071]

FINALLY !!!!! CONGRATS !!!

[@HenryBlanchard.]

The past few days I’ve been looking for a filament storage solution and then you upload this! Keep up the great work!

[@remthompson]

This is awesome! Pooch getting the prusa meter plug in :)

[@3DJapan]

I have a $20 shelving unit (behind me while filming) where all of my filament goes. It's not enclosed but my garage stays pretty dry.

[@TheZolon]

Arg!! Mine is a v2.1... Guess I need to buy another repbox. ;)

[@FilamentStories]

Oh I love it! Such an amazing improvement. Pooch, love the new storage system. I totally want a filament wall now!

[@PortalFPV]

Imagine a daisy chain of Mosaic units connecting that whole wall to one printer 😲

[@WhereNerdyisCool]

That’s very interesting! I’ve used several of The Ultimate Spool Holders (TUSH) and those bearing things would split apart at the worst time

[@beauslim]

Thank you for showing us your "slip rod". ;-)

[@Enforcer_WJDE]

How do you deal with moisture? Do you dry them beforehand or could you keep the room at a certain humidity level? And if you could latter how much humidity does it have to be for filament not to pull moisture out of the air? I currently have under 30% in the room.

[@ALEXA-wm4qw]

It looks like Filament "Library" to me. Fantastic!

[@TheDooominator420]

Great design if you have a print area that's constantly kept extremely dry, I don't get below 18% rh. So I keep my rolls bagged with 120g of silica gel packets in their original boxes.

[@Shabazza84]

For PLA and PETG, 18% is no problem at all, as far as I can tell. For other filaments like Nylon ect., yeah, I get your point.

[@EposVox]

Oooh, I could use this on a smaller scale for sure!

[@3DPrintingNerd]

Yes you could!

[@blaz1ngwolf]

Geez Pooch. What about us folks that have the 1.0 version of the rep box? I feel left out now! ;)

[@Repkord]

Randy... its time to upgrade. Email me and Ill get you the discount code special for our elite OG RepBoxers. ;)

[@Calebs.bowling]

Hi everyone (Joel, sean, pooch & others)

[@KernsJW]

Looks great, great idea, and great video. I like how the design can be used in various ways. Funny enough, I have some air tight tool boxes I use and I have the same piping down the middle. I cut PVC pipe sections and have those riding on the pipe and it runs through the middle. This would be a great upgrade. I keep desiccant in the bottom in bags, but this setup could easily fit above those and still make them easy to get at. Pulling out a pipe with 8 rolls of filament each time is a pain.

[@r3v3rs3r]

Loved the storage solution.. Might use it if one day I can build my workshop! 🤔

[@JordanKicklighter]

Wonder how well the cardboard spools can slip/spin on the PETG sleeves

[@Repkord]

Depends on the "cardboard" some chipboard sides will work but If they don't, theres a rack stand upgrade available for that that just sits atop the rails and has a traditional arbor mount. Also works with the repwinders. It should be on Prusaprinters (Open source also) by tomorrow evening along with another TUSH inspired rack compatible design for those who still want bearings

[@RoseKindred]

I'll keep this in mind for if I ever need a storage solution for my filament. I've got 2 rolls and 1 unassambled printer, so I hope I won't get buried in plastic rolls soon.

[@robertgriffin178]

With in 6 months of printing I had probably 40 rolls sitting around

[@TripleJAu]

Fantastic work.. Just had one question.. How is the filament ment to be kept moisture free with such a storage arrangement?

[@christopherlarime4095]

Great video. Love your channel. 5:30 😬 safety first friend.

[@ruftime]

Nice guys! Yes, bearings are often too smooth, and the filament just wants to keep unspooling….requiring some tensioning mechanism(rubber band in my case.)😎 ❤️Lightburn

[@chas1878]

Basically a friction clutch but it pretty much does the same as if you just put them on 2 cheap plastic rods lol But overengineering is cool

[@BelviGER]

A holder like that inside a several meter wide repbox is basically the system I'm having built now

[@3DLL.]

Love the look and setup awesome idea

[@Numenor7]

Looks nice, but wish he would have shown more about what this amazing storage solution is, how it works, where to find it, and especially how to build it instead of focusing on the conversation and zooming through the construction at light speed 😂

[@Repkord]

Search the back catalog for RepBox. Its been covered a few times before, focus was more meant to be on the racking system this time. Can find info on all of it at Repkord dot com.

[@davydatwood3158]

The RepRack feels like a good solution for having wall-mounted filament if it's being actively used, but it seems like this set-up here is just meant for storage. Given that, is there any real advantage to this over leaving the spool in a box and putting the box on a shelf? Brainstorming, the upsides feel like: less time and hassle setting up the spool to print; easy to see colour and quantity remaining; and of course the sense of satisfaction of a) making a thing and b) having a filament rainbow. The downsides are: inflexible storage space (the rack is less useful for things that aren't spools) and exposed filament (when the spool is in a box, it's easy enough to also have the spool in a sealed bag.) So, the actual answer to my question is going to depend on the user's needs. Anyone have ideas for more pros or cons? It looks really awesome though!

[@Repkord]

All good points. Keep in mind that there are and will continue to be add ons that enhance the use-ability like the option to add slip rod or rack stands to print directly from the racking placed above a printer. Smaller lengths can be taken down and used in a desktop setting and then placed back on the wall when done to keep your desk clear. Great for Palette / MMU / Chameleon / ECRF and other multi-material setups. Lots of possibilities

[@davydatwood3158]

​@@Repkord Sure, but that's not quite on my point. I lead with "a good solution...if it's being actively used." That statement, to me, covers "print directly from the racking," and "great for... multi-material set ups." That sort of use seems to be what Pooch had in mind and this looks like a great way to handle those cases. Heck, I'm already pondering how I'd need to rearrange my printer room to mount one of these over my Prusa XL once that's a reality and not just a pre-order I'm frantically saving up for. :) "Smaller lengths can be taken down and... then placed back on the wall to keep your desk clear" is exactly what I already do. It's just that my process is slightly more complex: take the box off the shelf. Take the bagged spool out of the box. Take the spool out of the bag. Put spool on printer. Print. Take spool off printer. Put spool in bag. Put bagged spool in box. Put box on shelf. With this racking, one is saving 4/9ths of that process - which is what I meant when I said "less time and hassle setting up", at the apparent cost of having the spool exposed to the elements. In other words, I think you simply repeated what I said, but added some specific examples? Or have I overlooked something? Anyway, I hope this doesn't sound defensive. Communicating in text is hard! It's good to take my broad statements and turn them into specific use-cases.

[@justincasiere9598]

This is exactly how I have mine set up except only 2 shelves not 4. I want to set up a couple pallete to some printers and use it as a holder

[@saf3ty3rd]

Ugh, I have caulked the seams on one of my repboxes so the install of the new rods would be painful... Will a repwinder be able to sit between the new rods?

[@Repkord]

Yes... more on this tomorrow

[@BrockCheddar]

looks great!

[@RWhettstone]

My reels are in vacuum-sealed bags in their boxes when not in use. Yours now collects dust and clogs the nozzels. Am I doing it wrong?

[@saltysteel3996]

I vacuum bag all of my filaments and keep them in sealed storage boxes.

[@thetruthserum2816]

How does one prevent dust from settling on the tops of the spools?

[@Bigdog1787]

Now is that wall flame proof😅🔥

[@henryhbk]

What you need next (given the size of your inventory) are flip-on tags of the type that flips on the front (rather than remembering)

[@hanelyp1]

The tags need to be on the spools. Too easy to set down a spool in the wrong spot on the shelf.

[@printerpr0n]

Needs some LED tape uplighting behind the spools.

[@xManzi]

Oh man... Insert a few more bracket... Look at that sag.... But all in all, this is really awesome...

[@xXKisskerXx]

man here i was designing one that had Delrin Tubes with a central rod on bearings for maximum smooth... (basically a Vslot wheel, just REALLY wide)

[@Rick-vm8bl]

This is a pretty cool solution but do wish humidity would've been addressed as leaving all that filament out is going to ruin it for many people unless the room has humidity controls. Not sure if AC in the US handles that? In Europe we generally dont have AC, just radiators so humidity is presumably more of an issue for us.

[@bruceyoung1343]

Hope you have a good quality dehumidifier in same room close by

[@emanuelcalderon]

Looks amazing. What about humidity?

[@GoodEnoughVenson_sigueacristo]

I need a filament acquisition solution...

[@Fordham0815]

Great idea, but storing them uncovered will expose the filament to dust, dirt and moisture. are you not worried that the filament will be impacted by these conditions? wouldn't be giant airtight box with desiccant be a better solution? ;)

[@TikTik.]

Nice idea!

[@amplitude2836]

very cool! whats your view on humudity and dust?

[@3Dprintingshorts]

Great video bro

[@volksbugly]

Buy a room dehumidifier :D I have a nice black and decker, if I had it to do again I would run a hose out, but right now I have to empty the tank every other day. (living in the bay area)

[@colbyhodder327]

Hey do you have any recommendations for good but cheap filament in canada? I live in Newfoundland and typically after shipping cost I can barely afford 1 roll at a time and have tons of project ideas but no filament so somewhere I could get it cheaper would be a great help, huge thanks to you or anyone in the comments that can help and keep up the awesome content 😊

[@printerpr0n]

I think everyone tries those bearing based spool holders and ends up hating them. If not using a full spool or get a badly wound spool and they love to fall over mid print. Always when you aren't next to the printer.

[@AllVisuals4U]

This could be really something i need, instead of 2 seperatie spool holders! 😁

[@Edouard16]

Is it safe to store so much filament outside of sealed pockets/enclosures? Won’t they get humid after a few hours/days and need to be oven dried before being used?

[@pkchutrainer]

Yeah, it's safe. Most filaments like pla don't even need to be stored somewhere super dry. And if you do have any that need to stay dry you can just throw it in a vacuum sealed bag with a decadent pack.

[@MaximRodin-s9u]

Hello. I am planning on putting a RepRack on the second floor. But the walls there are angled, that's the roof! I'm afraid the rack might fall off because the screws holding the cleats are no longer horizontal. How can I modify the system to work on angled walls?

[@nat0l905]

"Thats half" made me almost fall out my chair

[@ethang.9116]

Hi Joel. Sorry to have to be posting this here, but I don’t know how else reach you. I won the holiday giveaway that you hosted and got the email for you that I had won. The problem is that someone with the name “Ethan B.” won twice. I received one of my prizes, the FilamentOne gift card, but have yet to hear anything about the anycubic vyper that was won by “Ethan B”. I was wondering if there is any way for you to check if the emails that won were the same, or if I won one and someone else with my same initials won the other. Thanks so much!

[@3DPrintingNerd]

Howdy! It was two different Ethan B winners.

[@ethang.9116]

Oh ok thanks. Didn’t think I could have been that lucky!

[@MaximRodin-s9u]

I am getting a Neptune 3 Pro, with 3 kilos of extruder pull force, so a little bit of friction won't be a problem for me.

[@koppfrosch7439]

for how long is a filament usable in its original box and sealed? is it usefull to buy bigger stacks and store them away or is it better to buy when needed (for a larger price possibly)?

[@harold42]

Do you have any issues with the filament absorbing moisture from the air?

[@octopusNavi]

Moisture's best friend

[@MetalheadAndNerd]

Moisture is overrated. I have no problem with PLA without any drying measures, stored in plastic bags.

[@davidmiedema2950]

Yup, there is enough filament I suspect that it is measurably dehumidifying the room...

[@octopusNavi]

@@MetalheadAndNerd It depends on where you live. In my case it would be impossible to use that method.

[@benjaminmoody7722]

I keep my many rolls in a giant plastic bin that seals with desiccant. It stays dry for a while, but after a month or so I need to dry them again. I do live in the NE of the US though so humidity is a serious factor.

[@MetalheadAndNerd]

Where I live indoors humidity is between 30 and 50%. The only filament where I ever had moisture issues was PLA with wood particles and filament that came with visible drops of water inside the sealed package.

[@BreakingElegance]

I can't find those PETG ribs anywhere

[@3DJapan]

Do you have to pay for electricity in the new studio?

[@SavetheRepublic]

What happens over time with friction between two plastics?

[@Repkord]

Over time I suppose it will wear but in our tests so far its held up really well. Worst case you can remove a worn slip rod off the EMT and print another one. Its a vase mode print and runs really quick. PETG seems to hold up better than others we've tried roo

[@SavetheRepublic]

@@Repkord Thanks for the reply!

[@3DProspecting]

I would think the PETG would hold up extremely well and you would be hard pressed to wear them out. I've printed linear rails and blocks in PETG and they've held up very well with no visible wear after few years of use.

[@derekkonigsberg2047]

Didn't you make a video about setting up wall-mounted filament storage a few years ago? What happened to that solution, and why did it get forgotten over time?

[@glennwemmer2552]

Looks like a great way to store rolls of filament. I wonder if a roll of filament that is vacuum sealed in a bag and put back in the box would fit with a corner of the box below the two EMT pipes. I have just under a hundred rolls of PLA, PETG, ABS and TPU on shelves now in vacuum sealed freezer food bags with a desiccant container and a humidity meter inside the bag. I am kind of anal about filament storage due to the investment I have in it. Nice job though, and I do like the idea of making it available to anybody for free. Good to see Pooch again.

[@TheBritishMelonn]

*screams in moisture*

[@enzospartan]

I really want to use this storage solution but am worried about the weight of the filament being too much for printed brackets. How much weight can PETG or ABS take?

[@mebillica]

you forgot the PETG tubing to cover the pipes. Isn't that the main thing of this project?

[@tomcollick8111]

where do I get the screw fasteners. I do not have them as I moved and thinnk I lost them

[@JonS]

Why did you say, "Thanks GoPro"? [Edit: oh, I heard it beep. Out of battery or SD card?] This is a nice storage solution. Maybe not as nice as my leaning towers under and around the printer table! I'm wondering if I have somewhere I could put this (limited wall space that isn't in parts of the house where my wife wouldn't appreciate filament storage).

[@twisted_seraph]

Hi Joel, question is could you go virtical? I tried yur other brackets with a 1x2's and it came crashing down with 3 brackets with a 4' section of 1x2's. The PETG brackets did not hold. Saddly landed on my laptop and cracked my screen but things happen so thats why I am thinking vertical rather than horizontal.

[@kylelongstaff]

Joel you're not afraid of the filaments drying out? Especially the PETG and super expensive PEEK

[@donmurphy3916]

I was under the understanding filament should be protected from humidity and dust. I keep all mine in plastic bags. Is open storage a good idea, or do you have so much you simply watch the humidity for the entire area??? Really enjoy your shows! HIGH 5

[@Rob_65]

Open source is great but just open is not ... You will need/want to add some way to prevent dust from collecting on the filament (at least I do). My first "enhancement" for this would be a clip on the pipe to add labels for manufacturer/material type labeling.

[@urdessstardancer9598]

Won't they all go bad though since they are all just sittingout in the air? I thought you were supposed to keep them vaccume sealed with they crystals to keep moisture away?

[@manubra5853]

How does UV light affect the filament?

[@boboscurse4130]

So how do you keep it dry?

[@VorpalGun]

What about dust and moisture though? An open to the air solution like that seems problematic.

[@brucedubois9200]

Hey Joel here’s an idea because you have so much filament have you thought of auctioning some off for charity.

[@HiDefTh]

I like the idea and it would be a fine solution for my workspace. However, I have actually about 65% humidity by 30ºC in my room and it would affect the filament. What are your room conditions and experiences with moisture?

[@cdsmakestuff]

keep each roll in 1 gal. "ziplock" style freezer bag with a desiccant pouch in each bag... not perfect but will help