Ultimate Guide to getting out of a speeding ticket | UK edition

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[@thrifty-family]

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[@adeyjames4275]

Are you for real??? Tell me, when did anyone formally and legally agree to be bound by the Road Traffic Act? When did anyone formally and legally sign the consent to be governed agreement which would be the evidence required to prove that there are obligations and liabilities? When did that happen? I am not obligated in any way, case closed. So what you got to say about convincing people they are committing "offences", when they are NOT? Nobody ever signed the madatory transfer of power of attorney to be represented. ARE YOU LISTENING NOW??? I always charge the Chief Constable of that area, that Chief Constable does not sign any part of the fraudulent documentation sent through the mail. No signature =FRAUD by misrepresentation, a known chargeable criminal offence committed by every lying, thieving, parasitic private corporation policy enforcement chiefs. HM Parliaments and Governments STATE is a company not a government. There is ZERO evidence of a legal government anywhere on Earth.

[@adeyjames4275]

There is no court. Its a private company policy enforcement office, and any fool that walks into the lions den when they have ZERO obligation to do so, grants the consent by that action of walking in there. You agree by your actions to be bound by the company policy, that doesn't apply to you FACTUALLY, LEGALLY. Time to wake up and take off the blinkers folks.

[@idesireit31]

What if the nip went to lease company within 14 days but came to the driver 2 months later, despite the lease company giving them enough notice. Can it be contested ?

[@s4truth456]

What happens if you cancel the contract writing RTS Vi coactus on the front of the letter in red ink ?

[@awfab3517]

I want to visit the UK, get a bunch of speeding tickets then leave and never come back.

[@cliveadams7629]

They often won't send you the photos. If you can't be sure who was driving, you can't identify the driver under Section 172 of the RTA. It's illegal to knowingly provide a false statement. If you're willing to identify the driver from the photo and they won't send it, there's no more you can do. I had a red light camera fine disappear that way.

[@galaxion62]

The best advice I can give is not to follow any of this advice, as it is simply the ultimate guide in complying to get prosecuted by a speeding ticket. I've personally been down all the routes this woman describes, & all that happens is you get stitched up the minute you enter a court room. What really works from personal application is this: write a Notice of Conditional Acceptance requesting for clarification, that the road traffic offenders act 1988 applies to a living Man/Woman? i.e. not a person. Give them 72 hours to comply. Do not fill out any of their forms or paperwork, by providing your details including driving license number on a separate sheet of your own. It's all to do with contract law, & by completing their paperwork you have contracted with them & are then bound under the terms of their contract. Hope this will assist those who are looking for a real way out, by failing to comply with any of their legalese nonsense.

[@thrifty-family]

Thanks for sharing

[@turtleofthenorthshore6427]

If speeding is not against Common Law then why do we even need to bother? They are in the wrong by trying to enforce a statutory law.

[@kevindarkstar]

Because it's a contract kinda thing, you get a 'license' which you sign and basically agree to the raft of road traffic regulations ect so you basically agree to it 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@turtleofthenorthshore6427]

Hmmm. I do see that point of view, like we agree to use roundabouts and traffic lights the correct way, but when it comes to speeding fines, I am saying NO, and they address it to your legal fiction i.e. your full name, therefore that is not you the living human. I might get into a lot of trouble with the police over my current speeding fine, but you have to stand up for what you believe in. I wish you good fortune in the wars to come.

[@reeleyes466]

ey up lass ! Cheers for this informative info

[@thrifty-family]

Thank you! I'm glad you found my video informative and helpful.

[@hgm8337]

@@thrifty-family t'were a reet good and chuffin' well full of revelations

[@feichengwurao320]

Did I read this wrongly, if your car is stolen and the criminal driver goes speeding, you still get a fixed penalty and you have to pay, after a "conditional offer"?

[@jackrees5325]

I was just sent a nip form for 26 in a 20 that I honestly thought it was a 30 as it has bushes one side and a lay-by on the other and no speed signs only 1 further up the road saying 50 and 20 facing the other way

[@ABC28797]

Currently have 6 points from June 2021 which are due to expire June 2024… received a speeding fine today 46 in a 40 zone. Guessing speed awareness isn’t an option as 3 years aren’t quite up yet

[@idesireit31]

Did your insurance go up with 6 points ?

[@normanedwards7220]

I am a professional driver , I do attempt to stick to the speed limit , my job depends on me having a licence, my sticking to the speed limit causes unbelievable anger to some other drivers , dangerous overtakes are common , I invested in front and rear cameras , which also record my speed , I think one day I will need their evidence

[@ashleymorton9623]

The S sound in your voice is spectacular

[@arnoldrimmer9161]

I agree

[@killerb276]

Giving some one a conditional offer if your car was stolen is absolute rubish

[@faizal1895]

Do the mobile speed vans while moving along in traffic have dashcams that capture people on phones or without seatbelts?

[@thrifty-family]

Hi Faizal! yes, there are now speed camera vans that can detect people not wearing seatbelts or using their mobile phones while driving. That said, it's better to be safe than sorry!

[@charlieabel1533]

I got caught going 54 in a 55 so he gave me a gift certificate for a free dinner for two for being a good driver. Thank you officer!

[@brianstephen5392]

Utter nonsense!

[@dalebelfield3525]

Better walking now a days

[@thrifty-family]

Lol

[@cliffordcharles1247]

Thank you for sharing this video, it's very informative, I've got a question for you, if the police pulls you over, and wrongly accuses you of speeding, if you've got a dashcam with GPS with a speed stamp, which displays the correct speed you're doing, what do you do? show them the footage, or when you get a ticket, can you contest it by sending the dashcam footage? Thanks.

[@thefiestaguy8831]

Take it to court. Show the footage and include the GPS mapping if you can. When you then win the case (assuming you do), they are liable for your costs.

[@chrisplunkett2814]

Portable GPS speed logging is an average unless it's a permanently fitted hard wired unit.It's not accurate enough to be considered as a way out of a speeding fine.

[@thefiestaguy8831]

Car GPS units aren't average..... they literally measure your speed at the time. Mine was a cheap £80 front and rear 4k dashcam and has speed measurement on the footage, it literally changes every 1-2 seconds in line with my vehicle speed so it's not average. It's not a "hard wired" unit either.@@chrisplunkett2814

[@danhodge2337]

Yes, every vid about speeding someone always asks/says their gps/google maps, kinda proving that a SPEEDOMETER isnt to be believed and more time is spent relying on tech that people dont know how it actually works@@chrisplunkett2814

[@lairdbrian]

What's with the nodding head and hand waving it's so annoying making it difficult to watch.

[@TedBaker-n9h]

That's a you problem. People talk like that in real life..😂😂She's fine

[@Starretsmedia]

I just got a ticket driving a dpd van doing 24 in a 20mph...it happened on June 17th just got the letter yesterday. Didn't even know I was speeding all be it just 4 over..so the metropolitan police wanna fine me..first day on job...I think this is unfair.

[@Bane1Mirin]

4mph is a fine bro

[@Starretsmedia]

@@Bane1Mirin 😤 lol

[@michaelfox2501]

Can they use a photo taken by a personal phone camera of my registration as I was on a motorcycle going towards a mobile camera, best regards mick

[@CosmicSeeker69]

Learn to challenge the system - because its NOT Lawful.

[@auym4432]

Can you supply your source material

[@kestondaniel7737]

I’m a new driver and to got catch doing 38 in 30zone what will happen to me

[@ColeyCole1989]

Same 🥺

[@kestondaniel7737]

@@ColeyCole1989 hi beautiful I get my notice last month and I get to do the course so you should get the same as it’s your first time 😊

[@gcharles7804]

⁠@@kestondaniel7737how long you have your license? What options did they offer?

[@auym4432]

Mobile cameras must be identifiable as what they represent

[@sarahq2112]

I was driving 25 mph on a 20mph zone... the road changes from 20 to 30 on the road and its not clear at what point it changes?

[@mathisnotforthefaintofheart]

It changes when you see the 30 sign

[@drbennyboombatz9195]

I was caught doing 49 in a 30 in a company work van, I have only been caught speeding once before (probably about 20 years ago), I would have never been going that fast but half a mile before the guy got me with the gun there was a faded end of lorry restriction sign, it has a dark line on a white background, I honestly thought it was a national speed limit sign, you think I have a case??

[@RichardMcLaren]

Absolutely not. Your interpretation of a sign doesn't alter the fact that you were going faster than you were allowed. I also probably wouldn't try to use that as a defence because they will probably have a go at for not knowing the highway code well enough.

[@drbennyboombatz9195]

@@RichardMcLaren even though the sign is in bad repair (like really bad)

[@thefiestaguy8831]

Probably won't "get you off it" because they'll argue you should have known that was not a NSL road (some roads quite clearly aren't NSL roads). But it probably would be a mitigating factor and reduce the severity of any penalty you get.

[@drbennyboombatz9195]

@@thefiestaguy8831 it was only 3 points and £100 (when I googled it I thought was gonna be huge) so I just paid it… was my second ticket since I passed in ‘94 😅

[@auym4432]

Missing sinage is not an excuse

[@paulwallace4332]

I was caught speeding in the north of Scotland and I live in the south of England and have been summoned to appear in the county of the incident. It's way over two hundred miles to get there and also the same going home and was hoping to avoid a further five hundred mile journey (there and back) just to say, 'Hello!' to the court. Is that normal to have to report to the county where it happened? That would be ludicrous if I lived in Italy or wherever.

[@thefiestaguy8831]

I'm not sure how it works if you were caught in say Scotland but live in say Brighton, but usually there's something called an SJPO, which means you can essentially "plead guilty by post". Saves you having to go to court, and saves the magistrate having to speak to you in person etc. A colleague of mine was dealt with this way when he was caught doing 105 on the M25 during early 2021 COVID lockdown. He pleaded guilty via post, received 5 points and a £550 fine.

[@maliklovely3595]

If someone else has a picture of my driving license can he missuse it by naming me for his speeding ticket?

[@danhodge2337]

No, the registered keeper is responsible by law for naming who was driving

[@richardburns5925]

I don't know how you guys get speeding tickets. I worked for a rail agency in York for a year, I commuted from Sheffield to York 5 days a week and on a weekend worked all over the country, Edinburgh to London. I did 40, 000 miles in a year. I still regularly drive to Scarborough (camera vans always on the A64) and all over the country. Continuous roadworks with camera enforced speed limits on the M1, a 30mph, yes 30 mph speed limit with average speed cameras on the M180 to Hull.......cameras everywhere I go and just can't seem to join your club!

[@thrifty-family]

Perhaps some people chance it, which is quite risky and costly when caught 😔The only certain way to avoid this possibility is to never drive faster than the speed limit and always be aware.

[@CosmicSeeker69]

tempting fate!

[@DavidSmith-ef9wy]

What a fear-based video

[@thrifty-family]

What makes you say that?

[@radoll8404]

What if i dont answer to notice of intended prosecution and i dont appeal in court? Do they legally can fined me? Do the NIP have valid time of 6 months?

[@NoBody-gf8ie]

If you don’t answer the NIP you’ll be prosecuted for it

[@thefiestaguy8831]

If you don't respond to the NIP, the registered keeper is prosecuted for failing to provide particulars of the driver involved in the offence at the time, usually 6 points plus a hefty fine. From the date of the offence, they have 6 months to COMMENCE proceedings against you. I.e if they "CHARGE" you to go to court for the offence on month 5, but court is delayed or closed for 2-3 months or you can't attend for a good reason, it doesn't mean as it's now 7-8 months down the line you're off the hook, it's to bring PROCEEDINGS against you within 6 months. If you get summonsed to court or issued a fixed penalty, that is when that "time limit" stops.@@NoBody-gf8ie IF they don't charge, summons or bring some other form of proceeding against you within 6 months then that is when you can be considered "off the hook" so to speak. Note this is ONLY for Summary offences (most motoring offences but not all), also includes common assault.

[@matrixsenior]

I think the bottom line is, after watching the video, unless your car was stolen, cloned, or someone else was driving, theres nothing you can do to avoid the fine.

[@thrifty-family]

It is a risky business with very few reasonable grounds for contesting.

[@kevindarkstar]

Because it's a stitch up system to remove money from your pocket as swiftly as possible, that and the hugely corrupt legal system, basically your screwed 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@CosmicSeeker69]

@@thrifty-family well DARN ME -I had to read all the comments to this point to find that out - at least I didn't waste 14mins on the vid though!

[@golic7123]

8:17 - What if you get a NIP for speeding, and you simply cannot remember who was driving on that specific day, at 8.30pm, on that night . . . was it you? , or was it the wife ? (both legal to do so, i might add) Stating it was the wife, is perjury Claiming it was yourself, is admitting guilt to an offence, you possible didn't do! 11:06 - Its not that you *CAN'T* remember, its just that it could be either one of two people - both of whom you can name . . . . but cannot recall which one of the two, was driving at the time Anyone got any thoughts ?

[@thefiestaguy8831]

Then you go to court and tell the court you genuinely cannot remember who was driving, but you HAVE to demonstrate that you have made reasonable efforts to ascertain who was driving (for instance reviewing home CCTV that might show who got in the car at the time the journey started, and who was driving). It isn't a defence or excuse to just get the ticket, and go "I don't remember who was driving, and I can't be bothered to try to find out either" and use that as an excuse. It won't work and they'll find you guilty of failing to provide particulars for the driver which attracts 6 points if I recall and a hefty fine.

[@user-mr3gj5pc3e]

10% over is non applicable it depends on the officer issuing the fine.

[@thrifty-family]

Hi. The wiggle room would depend on how a driver was caught speeding. This article can provide more information - thriftyfamily.co.uk/speeding-ticket-criminal-offence/

[@arnoldrimmer9161]

'The only exception to this rule, is if you are a MPs'

[@thrifty-family]

Given the strict speeding regulations in the UK, anyone who violates the law when it comes to driving can get a ticket.

[@CosmicSeeker69]

@@thrifty-family but that doesn't mean the camera info will get acted on! I know that you're trying to help ppl but that's a naïve comment IMHO

[@lovelybitofbugle219]

I just got 89 in 60! Im a dead man 😢

[@XxxXxx-fo1zi]

no victim no crime if u are from UK !!!!! learn your rights they can not do shite

[@lauriefreeman]

What was the outcome? I've just had the same!

[@lovelybitofbugle219]

@@lauriefreeman 6 points and 200 pound fine 🎊 I was happy with that considering i was looking at a ban.

[@lovelybitofbugle219]

@@lauriefreeman Just tell them you need your licence for (make up anything cos they don't check) And look sorry as hell and you should be ok. Good luck. And don't bother with a solicitor.

[@lauriefreeman]

@@lovelybitofbugle219 Thank you so much for flying back - fingers crossed I get the same outcome!

[@razza1171]

Speed your way over here fellow KZbinrs?

[@thrifty-family]

I hope you'll find my videos helpful in knowing how to deal with a speeding ticket or avoiding getting one.

[@ksi7297]

Hi can I ask basically I was stopped by a police officer a few days ago the time was around 2-3am in the night the speed limit on the road was 30mph I was speeding and a undercover came up behind me I did slow down quite a lot whilst he was coming and was driving normally after long story short I got pulled over up ahead in a side road and they said apparently there looking for a vehicle involved in a hit and run so not my car I complied with them checking my licence and everything they realised it wasn’t me the person. One of the officers just said the speed you were going you would get banned I want you to think about it. He said the police chopper got me that means not him. At the end he said we’re giving u a warning make sure don’t do it again. My question is as I got no ticket on the spot would I still get a ticket or not through the mail.

[@saakib26]

No it's a verbal warning only

[@Nothing2cHere01]

I was given a fine through the Post for 36 in a 30 and the camera was black , but it's not on my name,but on the car,that now I'm buying which will be registered on the same address

[@00977me]

did you recieved 3 points in your license?

[@reeleyes466]

@@Nothing2cHere01 I got camera'd by a camera van doing 37 in a 30 - but it was an inner city road ( that seemed like a 40 ) plus, there was no signs entering that mile or so of road. There were only streetlights toward the end of that road. Apparently, the law says you do not need signage to indicate these speed zones. Very surprised about that. There was no signs. However, as a person like myself, who has spent 20 years outside the UK, the road systems seem rather different, having not driven in the country for that time. Also, in a town I have have been into. The thing is, these fines, for those in high powered sports cars, they do not care. if the idea is to reduce traffic accidents, then surely making signs abundantly clear and very large would be the best idea ? I'm amazed it is not the law to have signs to indicate speed limit zones.

[@thefiestaguy8831]

As a UK officer myself - no, that's a verbal warning. If he wanted to prosecute you or "report" you for the offence he'd verbally tell you at the roadside "I am reporting you for the consideration to be prosecuted for the offence of speeding, dangerous driving, no insurance" etc. Or you could receive a NIP through the post but this is usually from speed or red light cameras. If you get stopped and they report you it's usually a verbal notification from the officer which fully complies with the legislation. In your case, you were given a verbal warning to slow down. Nothing more.

[@grassblade2]

It's a serious business when it's you're turn for the Going To Fast Tax isn't it.

[@joekerr6685]

31mph in a 30mph speed limit is speeding end of, I know someone who was prosecuted in Scotland for doing just that. If you want to avoid a speeding penalty then don’t exceed the speed limit simple, it’s not rocket science.